• September 30, 2022

How About Some Optimism About The DeMeco Ryans Deal?

The prevailing opinion around the league is that the Eagles got the best of last week’s swap that sent a fourth-round draft pick and a swap of third-round selections to the Houston Texans in exchange for 27-year-old former All-Pro middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans. And it’s hard not to feel that way.

Ryans has been one of the best at his position since entering the league out of Alabama in 2006. He went on to win NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year that season, made two Pro Bowls (2007, 2009) and was All-Pro in 2007. His impressive resume speaks for itself.

By now, we all know that Ryans missed 10 games during the 2010 season due to a season-ending Achilles injury, but he bounced back to play in each of Houston’s games a year ago. We also know his production suffered, partly because he wasn’t fully recovered from the injury, but partly because of the team’s switch to a 3-4 base defense that saw Ryans on the field for approximately only half of the team’s defensive snaps.

Still, most who watched the former University of Alabama standout agreed that he became more comfortable as the season progressed. Former coaches and teammates alike have unanimously agreed that Ryans is a great team leader who will thrive on the field with the Eagles.

So what gives? Why would the Texans do a deal like this? Sure, Ryans cap number is undesirable, particularly if he isn’t ideal for what the Texans want to do on defense, but elite middle linebackers aren’t a dime a dozen.

So is there really something more to this whole deal than meets the eye?

That’s what we we here in Philadelphia do–we think worst-case scenarios.

Texans head coach Gary Kubiak tried to explain what to most appears to be a very questionable deal yesterday at the NFL owners’ meetings.

“No doubt, he played his best football for us at the end of the year, there’s no doubt about that,” Kubiak said. “Absolutely no doubt. He battled his elbow, he battled his Achilles, but at the end of the year he played his best football for us.”

One would have to assume that the Texans don’t think they traded away a complete lemon to the Eagles, but it’s still fair to wonder if they know something the rest of us don’t.

Kubiak believes that Ryans can be still be a three-down linebacker in the right fit. And it appears, at least initially, Philadelphia may provide the right fit.

Even if Ryans fails to meet the lofty expectations in terms of physical play, his communication and leadership skills are something that the Eagles sorely needed. And Kubiak has full confidence that he’ll help the Eagles in that respect.

“All you have to do is turn the film on and watch him,” Kubiak said. “He runs the show. Everybody goes to him, they trust him so much and what he’s doing. He really raised Cushing in a lot of ways. … He’s just a guy on the field that gave everybody some calm: ‘Hey, I got it under control. What are we doing? What’s our adjustment?’ DeMeco let us know we got it.”

Ultimately, there’s a bit of uncertainty regarding any trade–teams don’t know what they have until the player goes out there and does it. And this trade is no different, but you have to assume that regardless of whether or not Ryans returns to form that he’s still going to provide a significant upgrade to the play and cohesiveness of a unit that spent much of last season completely out of whack.

We tend to be skeptical and negative around here because we’ve seen this show before. We were promised playmakers with the arrival of Will Witherspoon and Takeo Spikes–it didn’t happen. But Ryans is significantly better than both of those players at this point in his career.

We tend to contain our enthusiasm because we watched Nnamdi Asomugha–the market’s slam-dunk best defensive player of a year ago get worked by Victor Cruz. We watched him commit untimely penalties. And we watched him out of position far too many times. We are a bit on edge because it’s been 52 years since the Eagles were the last team standing and because of brutal losses to St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Carolina, New England, and Arizona in championship rounds. We’ve been betrayed and stung so many times that even when something seemingly good happens, our first response is “yeah, but…”

But nothing. We have to let this go. Wounds heal. This is a good move. And it was the right to make for this team right now. Nothing is guaranteed, but we just have to enjoy the ride.

So while I get the skepticism, we have to take a collective step back from the ledge and assume that even if Ryans doesn’t return to peak form, he’s still going to provide a major boost of to this defense.

There’s a reason that the prevailing thought around the league is that the Eagles got the best of the DeMeco Ryans trade–because they probably did.

Bob Wankel

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paulman
paulman
March 28, 2012 7:31 am

Was an excellent pick-up in getting MLB D Ryans, whom I am sure was surprised and a even a little hurt being traded by the Team that Drafted him and groomed him.. The Texasn finially have a plyoff caliber team in a wide-up AFC SOuth Divivision and he’s no longer there, so I expect him to have a major chip on his shoulder coming into 2012 and as he mentioned, Philly and their 4-3 Def Schemes is a perfect fit for him to be productuve and what player doesn’t get fired up playing for anew team that actually ‘wanted him” .. Even if he’s only 90% of wht he was 2-3 Years ago still makes him the best LB on the Eagles Roster and his Leadership/Toughness Skills cannot be underestimated.. This is a major Win-Win for Eagles and for Ryans.. Welcome.

daggolden
daggolden
March 28, 2012 7:54 am

The reason why we are very skeptical about the trade is we know first hand how to bamboozel another team. We all knew McNabb was done and laughed when Washington took him off our hands. We all knew Kolb SUCKED and laughed when we suckered Arizona into that deal. They are lucky the lockout prevented more teams from raiseing the price on him. Lets not act like team dont screw teams all the time and know something we dont know. Asante would of been on that hoodwinked list last year if Howie wasnt so greedy. We are hoping Ryans is more of a Doc Holliday then a Chris Webber..

daggolden
daggolden
March 28, 2012 8:03 am

Honestly I dont think Ryans means alot if the DT dont help keep the guards and center off of him. I dont care who plays MLB. Its asking alot for a 250 pound player to constantly have to shed the block of a 330lb man then make the tackle. Its simple math and the little guy isnt gonna win. Just imagine that you are 200 lbs and you have to block someone who is 120lbs there noway you are not gonna win that battle. Your bigger and stronger. I hope Washburn realizes this and adjusts.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 28, 2012 8:36 am

Hey guy..we’re skeptical because thee’s a dance Ryan may go down and we’ll be stuck with the garbage linebackers behind him. You can’t get excited when all your linebackers a 3rd teamers and special team players at best.

Get us 2 more linebackers.

Our Safety position have been targeted by QB’s regularly especially when we sewed up the right corner position and Coleman was our best Safety last year. We need to cut our losses with Nate Allen and bring in a Stud Safety.

We have problems when everyone see Landri is better than Trevor Laws yet we keep Laws around because Rosebud don’t want to admit his high choice at DT is another defensive bust.

So, yes there’s skepticism, but it’s not because of Ryan.

We just don’t want this organization to sell us Ryan as the answer to our defensive woes when there’s other positions of concern, including Juan Castillo calling plays against Superior offensive minds.

I believe if Sean Payton and Greg Williams were coaching this team a trophy would be here.

If Tom Coughlin was coaching this team a trophy would be here.

So, Andy Reid is another concern.

Do Demeco Ryan correct all these issues?

I think not!

We all knew they needed Linebackers before preseason last season but, Andy said things were fine.

We knew we needed a corner once they traded Sheldon Brown but, Andy said things were fine.

We knew we needed a Safety after seeing the position grossly downgraded and past over Earl Thomas who could have manned the position for years to come only to get an undersized situational defensive end.

So, if you think we should be doing back flips with the acquisition of Ryan,you’re sadly mistaken.

By the way..Did we get a kick off returner yet?

Fix the team for a legitimate run at this thing and you’l see the excitement!

Did you see the excitement the year T.O. was signed?

We were able to get behind the team for a Superbowl run because everyone knew he was the missing piece. We’re excited about Ryan but not that excited. There’s more questions than answers with this team from the top down which place fans in a “wait and see” mode.

As of now this team is 9-7 at best and would not make it far in the post season.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 28, 2012 8:38 am

I think everyone is cautiously optimistic about the deal. If he’s good to go its a slam dunk.

The difficulty is that achilles ruptures are one of (if not the most) difficult to return from. Stats show only 2/3 of NFL players every return (he’s passed this test), but most of those never return to the performance levels they were at before the injury. (still unknown)

So again, optimistic that this will work out, but cautious with expectations knowing the history.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 8:40 am

Bob Wankel – Fantastic Article brother!! You absolutely know the mentality of the Philadelphia fan, because we have seen it all.

DeMeco Ryans, is an obvious upgrade, but we can get better by drafting 2 OLB in the draft. If we can get 2 stud DT’s, he’ll be even more effective. I just wish Babin was better.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 8:44 am

@ Songs- you are straight up the man!! with your opinions!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 8:48 am

What do you think would make this team better than 9-7?

What would it take to get them deep in the playoffs?

They have a difficult road ahead, playing the teams they do this year.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 8:51 am

Paul and dagg….you both made good points. Wanker you misused the term All Pro again. Major peeve of mine. Ryans never made AP. Second team doesn’t count.
I definitely think this is a major upgrade over Chaney who is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. At least we have someone who now knows what they are doing out there. And he will provide leadership to a unit that has no idenity. Now they need a leader in the secondary. The line has Jenkins and Babin, the LBs and defense as a whole has Ryans. The secondary needs a leader. Nnamdi and Allen are too reserved to lead. And Assante just runs his mouth without saying anything.
On another note, I do think his best football is behind him. And, despite the upgrade we are not getting any PB player. His leadership will make him just as valuable though so that’s ok. I think we are just thinking that it was not enough. This defense needed 3-4 pieces and they got one. They could have done more in FA. Not to mention there are some offensive depth issues and the return game that should have been addressed with FAs. Whats wrong with Ted Ginn or Ryan Grant or Yerimiah Bell? They added one player to the defense. They made an average defense a good solid defense. They are still a far cry from a SB defense. They are relying on the offense and hence Vick to carry this team and I don’t think that is a safe bet. They will be a good offense next year but I odn’t think they will be great or off the charts. A lot would have to happen for them to be great.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 8:57 am

The FO and coaching staff’s dream:

2011 O line at the end of the year
2010 Vick (before Nov 30)
2011 Shady
2009 D Jack
2009 Celek
Maclin finally breaks out for 70+, 1200 and 12.

Yeah if that happens we are a SB team. By a show of hands, who thinks this will happen?? Crickets chirping……more crickets…..yeah thats what I thought.

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 9:02 am

rotoworld reports that A Samuel is open to restructuring deal to get out of town

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:06 am

Frank 22….A solid kick returner that does both kicks and punts would have helped quite a bit. I think this team is a stretch for 10-6 right now, but Ted Ginn or Eric Weams would have meade them a definite playoff team. Does anyone think B Mitchell had something to do with what was an essentially 10-6 team going 12-4. Yeah go play your tapes of the 2002 season and I’ll ask you again. Anyone like Schill who says the return game is not a concern is misinformed or not paying attention. A good return man is worth at least one win and sometimes more.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 9:08 am

Jbird – Ted Ginn stinks, and is overrated as a pro. What has he really accomplished? Ryan Grant is washed up, and Yeremiah Bell is just a name that is no better than Nate Allen, and Kurt Coleman, at this point in his career, that won’t really improve the team. That’s what I see is wrong with them. Kudos to the Eagles for avoiding all three of them. But I do agree that we need more, that what we have. I have to believe they are going to add through the draft, and shore up the roster with whats left over in free agency.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:11 am

We are going to give Gilyard a look. That’s why the Rams (2-14) didn’t want him because he is the next Devon Hester. They did not want a guy that has the potential to be an awesome return man. But we just need Reno Mahe to go out there and not fumble and we will be fine. That is really overlooking something that is not an afterthought. That field position thing. Its kind of important. PLUS YOU SAW THE DIFFERENCE WITH MITCHELL SO YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS ANDY!!!!!! Why are you fucking thick?!?!?!?

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:13 am

gmcliff….I thought you agreed the kick return game is a problem?

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:17 am

Gmcliff….whats wrong with Manny Lawson? He is not going to cost you a fortune to stiffen up your two down stop unit. The LBs on this team are not going to develop. Rolle may be solid at best. But he may also turn out to be shit like Jordan did. And the draft is not the answer for this year. Second and third round picks are not going to make the 2012 Eagles a better defense so fuck shoring up through the draft. That ain’t gonna work.

bsmvideos
March 28, 2012 9:17 am

“No doubt, he played his best football for us at the end of the year, there’s no doubt about that,” Kubiak said. “Absolutely no doubt. He battled his elbow, he battled his Achilles, but at the end of the year he played his best football for us.”

The fact that his coach said he battled an elbow and Achilles injury at the end of the year, means he did not heal from the Achilles. By the end of the year he should have been healed.

So…Once again, the most clever front office in the history of the NFL has pulled the wool over the eyes of everyone else. It’s like the Star Wars scene when Princess Lea has to tell Han Solo, that “they let us go, that’s the only reason for the ease of our escape.”

I am sure the Redskins were estatic when they Got a 6 time Pro Bowl QB in Donovan McNabb… But Fat Andy knew McBlob was out of shape and probably on drugs…Probably some kind of steoroid. We have had a CB recently busted on the Eagles for violation of the substance policy and when he came back he was garbage. (holio hanson)

The Eagles put one over on the Redskins. Please don’t think that the Texans are so stupid to let a probowl linebacker go. He did not fit the system is code for he can’t play in the system. If you are a linebacker you should be able to play 3-4, 4-3, or 5-2. His job is to hit like a freight train in the running game and cover runningbacks and TEs in the passing game. We make it complicated.

Even in peewee football, you can notice a football player right away.

“He battled through” means he was hurt at the end of last year. Andy Reid is the the coach who put Akers on the field after he collapsed trying to kick the ball off. Andy Reid let McNabb play with a game with a broken leg. Westbrook was on life support when Andy had him out of the field battling through his injuryies. I give him credit, he did let westbrook skip practice. But this guy is new to the team and Andy will insist he needs all the reps he can get.

I don’t apoligize for disliking and blaming Andy Reid for everything. Including global warming and the twin towers collapse. He’s the reason all fat people are fat and bank robbers rob banks.

He’s the one who constantly says ‘I’ve got to do a better job of putting the players in position to win.” That’s one thing we agree on, and after 13 seasons. I’ve seen enough of his football philosophy to know it does not work.

The results speak for themselves.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 9:18 am

Devon Wylie, and Joe Adams are better options than Ted Ginn, that we won’t waste money on an overhyped reputation from his college days. Go with the cheaper options with higher upside, Young, fast guys. I would also like to see the Eagles make a run at JoLon Dunbar, to play OLB, another better option than Jamar Chaney. Zach Brown on the other side, a better option than a sorry Casey Matthews, and Brian Rolle for the long haul.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 9:21 am

I like Manny Lawson too J-Bird. I do think the return game is in need of an upgrade. I just don’t think Ted Ginn Jr is the answer. I just don’t like him for our team.

bsmvideos
March 28, 2012 9:22 am

Collin Cowherd (ESPN) made a very interesting assement of Bill Parcels yesterday.

Parcels and his coaching tree has won multiple superbowls.

Parcels is the greatest rebuilder in the history of the NFL.

Parcels does not go out and get a bunch of high priced players, he gets the BEST COACHES.

The Eagles have not had a decent linebacker coach since Buddy Ryan was coaching the team.

Only a few years ago the linebacker coaches bio on the Eagles website said his football experience consisted of playing semi-pro football.

Now they are running a system that the current coach does not know. Or even played in. So how can he coach it?

The Eagles need a linebacker coach who has mastered this pitiful choice of a defense. Otherwise it will be the blind leading the blind.

jakedog
jakedog
March 28, 2012 9:23 am

do you think the texans would have put this guy out on trash day if they thought he was the player he was or could be that player? Big skepticism here

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 28, 2012 9:24 am

You have to build through the draft. You can’t sign every free agent available. When you do that you strap yourself financially with the cap. Some players have maxed their potential, so you have to trust your coaching staff, and go with the young guys.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:30 am

gmcliff…I respect your opinion on Ginn but Weams was out there as well. Would you have liked that move? I like the idea of getting a guy in college as well but I think they are selling themselves on Gilyard like they did Jeremy Bloom and we will be left with nothing. The Eagles are going to draft a slew of O linemen after the second round so don’t think they are going to address all these little areas we are looking at gmcliff. My gut tells me DT or CB at 15, then QB/LB with the second two picks. After that at least three o linemen with the last six picks. I like Desmond Wynn from Rutgers in the sixth. I think Mudd can make him a good NFL lineman.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:39 am

bsm….Caldwell was a mut as a player and now he’s a mut of a coach. But Andy likes him. He’s nice like Juan. Regarding your earlier comments. Andy thinks he is an offensive genius. His offense (which was always pretty pedestrian except one year with TO) will take away the run, so the LBs are not needed. Neither are DTs. Neither are safeties. Bill Bellichick said you build from the lines and up the middle (Hm he has won five SBs and been in like eight). But Andy knows best. All you need bsm are quick high mootor D linemen and corners. And DEs and corners and more corners. DTs, LBs and Ss are not important. Thats the gold standard. When your offense kicks a FG every time they touch the ball, you don’t have to worry about stopping the run. Did I say FG?? Or did I mean TD? No FG was right. GO BIRDS!!!

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 9:47 am

Does anyone miss Tracy White? Nice little role player we gave away unnecessarily for nothing.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
March 28, 2012 9:50 am

I believe if Sean Payton and Greg Williams were coaching this team we would be needing a headcoach & D-Cord for 2012 and crying about the loss of draft picks and player suspensions

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 9:56 am

What I would do is as follows :
sign free agent Jo-Lon Dunbar
draft Fletcher Cox @ 15
Draft Vinnt curry or another DE and 46
Draft best available LB @ 51

Fixes your LB core to give them depth. Gives you a tremendous amount of depth and talent along the DLine.

jbird
jbird
March 28, 2012 10:15 am

Frank 22….nice little plan. I like it a lot. Here is the alternate plan Andy will follow. He will sign a bottom feeding back up RB, re-sign Trevor Laws instead of Landri or someone else, and draft three linemen after the second round. Before the second round, he will trade out of the first round for more picks for more back up O linemen. In the second round, he will take the wrong undersized LB and a QB people thought was a fifth round selection. One of the linemen will actually turn out to be pretty good and so will one of the other players they pick. The rest will be crap.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 28, 2012 10:19 am

Gotta Luv it…..I’ll take that if I can say my Team finally won a SB like the once poor NO Saints fans can say today.

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 10:21 am

It is sad but true JBird…Lets hope that Washburn is changing Andys mind in regards to the LB position. I dont believe you need the best LB core in the league to win, but if you want to win a superbowl you sure and hell cant have the worst. It would be a shame is they signed Laws and not Landri. I just cant help but think (hope) that he dosent do what you said and move out of the top of the draft and select o-lineman. I would like to add some depth to the o-line tho.

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
March 28, 2012 10:22 am

Jake you never heard of Ryan’s so your opinion means squat. You probably never heard of any other team’s players unless they are future Hall of Famers. Get a clue.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
March 28, 2012 10:28 am

Considering Ryans only played approx 50% of the plays last season. Texans scheme changed which appears to be attributed to lack of playing time. Do you play a player due to make 6mil, for only playing half the game? I think this is the big reason as to why the Texans parted ways. Good news, he did not miss a game in 2011 due to his achilles….I’d think the lockout impacted his rehab somewhat…with a full off season, he may be back all the way back! This move was excellent….Eagles traded a player for a 2nd rounder and a player….we got a proven Pro Bowler for 4th rounder and 3rd round swap.
Eagles fans I know its hard, but just be happy, that we got a player of this caliber that will add much of what we lacked from the LB group. We are fortunate that the Texans thought of Ryans enough to trade him to our team, a team in which many think will be a top team…

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
March 28, 2012 10:31 am

Mr Wankel – there is little optimism becuase the great majority of folks that post on this site don’t know there asses from holes in the ground let alone understand football!

Look at Daggolden ewho talk sabout keeping the guards off the LBs – um.. sorry fella – in the wide 9 against the run the issue was the OTs were pushing/letting the DEs get 3 yards up field and then releasing onto the LBs – so the RB would start outside – cut underneath the DE – then go outside the OT block on the LB – the team tried to fix this later in the year (you know the games that didn’t matter) by bringing the DEs in tighter on non-passing downs – don;t worry – its a football thing –

As for the number of plays and production – the issue was that Ryans only played on 1st and second downs… he came out on passing downs.. as the TExans had one of the best (I think #2) defenses in the NFL – makes logical (oh no I didn’t – I used the word LOGICAL) that other teams would not be getting lots and lots of 1st downs.. less time on field..

And again – anyone that makes an absolutley stupid comment about Ryans play (BSM Video for you brother) just state up front you did not watch the Texans Ravens playoff game – you did not watch this guy battling with Ray Rice – you didn’t – so you speak from a position of ignorance cause this guy – in a big game – against a good team and a bad ass running back – did some serious damage – just admit – you didn’t see it and you are basing this all off of ‘what you think’

You also can’t read – because he battled the elbow and achillies at the BEGINNING of the year – but was fine by the end – READ – then write

Jakedog – really – out on trash day – did you thik that all up by yourself or get some help from your big brother – Why is it when a pro coach explains EXACTLY why he traded someone – the assumption is he is lying – they needed cap space, he didn’t fit there scheme? you happen to notice the TExans (well hell boy) as well as several other teams have had to ‘put out the trash’ for cap issues – guess you really don;t follow football much huh?

Bill PArcels – really – really – wow – how that work for him those 4 years in dallas when he finished I think 34-32 and didnt win a playoff game.. how about Miami – he built a great program there..

Guys just make shit up – throw it at the wall – hope it sticks

paulman
paulman
March 28, 2012 10:38 am

Like your plan Frank except for LB Dunbar,
I believe Jo-Lynn Dunbar a “Restricted Free-Agent” meaning the Eagles would have to give the Saints like a 2nd ROund Draft Pick which probably prevents this from this happening..

No Doubt that Samuel will re-structure his deal for another Team that want’s him and to get out of Philly…
I still say he gets traded to PAnthers and is reunited with DC McDermott and the EAgles land RB J Stewart in return and maybe the team flip-flop some Draft Picks.. Panthers need a quality CB opposite of Chris Gamble and play in the pass happy NFC SOuth with Saints,Falcons and Now TB Bucs with C-JAx.. It also makes sense for Samuel since he knows McDermott’s schemes and could hit the ground running from Day #1 while the Eagles get a very solid back-up RB in J Steart who can do a little of everything.. Run,Catch, Block, short-yardage,Red Zone which if utilized properly could give the Eagles a 2 headed monster and probably extend McCoy’s Prime Career by a season or 2 by spreading out the workload..
This Paulman Deal is too good for both Teams and needs to happen..
Hilly

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 11:07 am

hmm not sure why I was not aware he was a RFA. I would not provide a 2nd rd pick for him. It would also not change my stance on bolstering the the DL with the first 2 picks. I would still try to find a LB in free agency wether it be SAM or WIL.I would focus this wholde draft on D! I couldnt agree more on a trade with the panthers. Stewart provides great ins for shady if he gets a little crazy with his demands. Dont get me wrong, I would still pay the man.

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
March 28, 2012 11:08 am

I just heard Sal Pal describe Demeco Ryans as Brian Dawkins in a Linebackers body. I take that with a grain of salt but believe that his statement is closer to the truth than what some of you are saying on this site. In fact the Texans players reaction to him leaving was similar to the feelings our players and fans had about B Dawkins when he left here. I’m not saying he’s guaranteed to be Ray Lewis but I feel good about this trade and will not knock it for no good reason.

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 11:21 am

I have no idea who is in his ear? Things seem to be trending toward a diffrent adtuide or trian of thought with this whole off season. Might just myself be guliable but who knows?

Frank22
Frank22
March 28, 2012 11:22 am

being guliable

jakedog
jakedog
March 28, 2012 11:23 am

You cats brag on here how much you follow footbal as a badge of honor, there are other sports in this town, other endeavors in life, but I know enough to know and anyone with half a clue or who has ever played football or any other sport that with a surgicially repaired achilles this guy, with all the other attributes that have been reported about him (few if any of you watched him play), he is damaged goods, not top five linebacker before he was hurt, again, if he were healthy he would be a texan

schiller
schiller
March 28, 2012 11:27 am

jakedog – you’ve said that you’re currenlty in school for something – I hope you do well and whatever degree you earn serves you well in life. That having been said, I hope you’re not studying to be a doctor, or any other field that entails doing inmportant detail oriented things for othe people. Because clearly you ignore major pertinent facts when you analyze things. You’ve ignored every comment from the media, his teamates, his coaches, analysts, and even stats…..

Like I said, good luck, but please tell me you’re in art school or something innocuous…

schiller
schiller
March 28, 2012 11:30 am

Jake, get your head checked. And if he wasn’t a top 5 linebacker before his injury, but he was a top 7 linebacker, then your statement is bullshit.

FYI, 1+1 = 2. Chew on that for a while… we’ll give you more once you’ve proven you can handle the basics….

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 28, 2012 11:30 am

I am excited about him, because Ryans at 80% is still the best LB on the roster. And I think that they will take a young LB in the draft. Hopefully someone that played in MLB that can play on the outside here.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 28, 2012 11:30 am

Jake..I’m with you.

looking at Ryan walk through the Eagle’s facility it was clear he’s favoring that leg.

Since Burfict is dropping we should pick him in the late rounds to bring fire as a Back up for insurance. low risk insurance.

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
March 28, 2012 11:37 am

So Jake are you saying that the only reason to ever trade a player is because he sucks? Are there no other factors that come into play? Did we get rid of B Dawk because he sucked? Did the niners trade TO to us because he sucked? I think not. Sometimes in sports u have to juggle especially in the salary cap era. Brian Cushing is in line for a big raise soon. Please show me another team in the league paying 12-15 million per year just for their middle linebackers. Anyone with a modicum of football knowledge understands this, except you. Please stop making yourself look bad. I’m almost embarrassed for you.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
March 28, 2012 11:40 am

Mr Wankel – Songs could have the entire NFC Pro Bowl roster and he would still find something to bitch about – of course – check out how having the highest paid most famous roster has worked out for teams like Miami in hoops and the Yanks in BBall –

Your point was spot on – anything – anything this team does there is a large segment of the folks that will immediatley condem the call- the team needed a MLB – everyone assumed they would look at a FA like Tulloch – – instead – the FO does there homewrok – finds a guy like Ryans and trades for him – the knock is that 2 seasons ago he was hurt –

part that cracks me up is not only will people bitch – then they will make excuses for their 16 year old high school girl behavior and start justifying all the reasons why they should be whining – we are frustrated, we have been waiting – yeah yeah yeah – we all have –

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 28, 2012 11:44 am

Why does our “Answers” come with “Questions”?

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
March 28, 2012 11:47 am

Songs are u related to Burfict. Even his own mom was probably ashamed of his epic failures at the combine/pro day. In fact I do t think I ‘ve ever heard of another decent prospect having as a horrible pro day. A proxy is designed for you to look good. Its your home turf and a controlled environment meant to make u look good even if you suck. If you can’t succeed in that atmosphere no way you survive in the high pressure of the NFL. I’d gladly take him as a sixth or seventh rounder but not a moment before. He’s a guy who will surely eat, sleep and shit his way out of the league if given set for life money. Let him come in at league minimum and work his way up. But I doubt he would last two years.

schiller
schiller
March 28, 2012 11:48 am

songs, questions come with everyone. Name me a player and I can find you a question about him.