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Roseman Leaves Door Open To Eagles Drafting Quarterback Or Linebacker Early

Eagles GM Howie Roseman was on 94WIP yesterday with Rob Ellis and Reuben Frank and he had quite a bit to say.  One of the areas he talked about was the Eagles mentality in approaching this year’s draft.  He emphasized the Birds attempt to not be swayed by their needs.

Roseman was asked if the Birds would be interested in drafting a linebacker despite acquiring two-time Pro Bowl middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans or quarterback, despite having Michael Vick under contract for a number of years.

“I don’t think you can go into the draft saying that we’re not going to take a particular position”, Roseman said. “Again, we go back and look at some of the things we’ve done and try to do a better job. I think one of the the things that we’ve looked at is, if we go into the draft and say, ‘We’ve got to get this or we’re not going to take that.’ If there’s a player on the board that we think is by far the best player, it doesn’t matter the position, we’ll take that player”.

With regard to picking a quarterback in this year’s draft, the Eagles GM didn’t deny reports that the Birds could take a signal caller very early.

“You’re talking about a priority position going forward”, Roseman told Frank and Ellis. “That’s always a spot that we look at. You’re talking about a guy like Andy who came from the Green Bay system, where they drafted one every year”.

Roseman also mentioned Ron Wolf who made sure the Packers always had a young talented quarterback as a back up.  I don’t think the Birds can be excited about a guy like Mike Kafka in the backup role because he doesn’t have the arm strength to be a big time starter in the NFL.

Don’t be shocked if the Eagles select a quarterback in this draft and I’m talking about in rounds one, two or three.

GCOBB

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daggolden
daggolden
March 30, 2012 5:43 am

Are you kidding me? Why would AR who is on the hot seat even contemplate drafting a friggin QB? If the Eagles wanted a QB why the hell did they get rid of Kolb last year? Blue chip top 10 QBs barely make it let alone a friggin reach, If it was RG III or Luck ok I could possibly live with that but Tannehill? Seriously? They need impact defensive players early and often in this draft. What if Ryans goes down? Your putting alot of pressure on 1 guy elevating this whole defense. I would draft all defense for the next 2 years and sign a few journey men olinemen who Mudd could make valuable backups.

peli
peli
March 30, 2012 6:24 am

Id be happy, if all the drafted were lb’s and safeties. Actually, id prefer it, this way, by law of averages there has to be at least a couple starters in the bunch. The way they draft, its the birds only hope of addressing positions of need.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 30, 2012 6:42 am

I think our biggest loss was Marc Ross to the Giants. He was the last of Modrak’s tree here and was i an internal battle with this pencil pushing geek Rosebud.

Marc Ross went to the Giants with internal information on how the Eagles run so the “G” men could overcome their woes and finally become a championship team by first breaking down their nemesis in the NFC east.

They signed Plax to beat our smaller corners.

Marc Ross gave them the inside scoop on the heir to JJ’s position in Spags to cripple us on defense for years to come, which lead to their defensive run to the Superbowl.

Marc Ross used his knowledge of how the Eagles set their board for drafts and their trends to out pick our Golden Standard and since he went to the Giants he really got one over on us with leaking their interest in Graham before the draft knowing the Eagles would take the bait.

Eagles took the bit and traded up losing a pick to grab Graham leaving JPP there for the Giants.

A “2 for 1” blow benefiting our division rival.

Don’t forget Tom Modrak brought Ross here to scout defensive talent. Modrak was known for his picks for defense with his time in Pittsburgh.

Now look at our picks on the defensive side since Marc Ross went to NY and look at theirs.

This will not change until we change.

As long as the minds of the Eagles stay the same….Marc Ross will have the upper hand because he was apart of the building structure in Reid’s early years. He knows how Reid and the front office think.

Roseman is not a football guy.

There’s facets of choosing talent that one cannot comprehend especially if you’re using a calculator and an excel spreadsheet. You must understand football. If you guys want to know where our Superbowls went just get on the Turnpike and head to New York City.

The ideas that made Reid look so good in his early years are there.

You don’t need a bulldozer to tear down a building if you know where the key pillar stands.

You pull a brick from the base of the pillar and the building will slowly collapse.

Right now, I would rather have Marc Ross than Andy/Roseman.

“TIME’S YOUR’S”

nev856
nev856
March 30, 2012 7:15 am

if they sign a free agent safety , i expect them to draft a QB early ! if they draft a qb early i’m thinking an extension for reid will be in the works .

paulman
paulman
March 30, 2012 7:38 am

Paulman’s New Mock Draft (#275)

1st Rd #15) SS Mark Barron(Alabama 6-1 213lbs)
2nd Rd #46) DT Brandon Thompson (Clemson 6-2 314lbs)
2rd Rd #51) OLB Shea McClellin (Boise St 6-3 260lbs)
3rd Rd #89) RB Bernard Pierce (Temple 6-0 218lbs)
4th Rd #115) CB Josh Norman (Coastal Carlolina 6-0 197lbs)
5th Rd #143) OT MAtt Reynolds (BYU 6-5 302lbs)
6th Rd #161) FB Emil Igwenagu (U Mass 6-1 249lbs)

DixieFan
DixieFan
March 30, 2012 8:26 am

Paulman – with so many mock drafts, you are bound to hit on somebody. While I don’t disagree about Barron, I think there are better options after round 2 (no way Thompson is there when we draft in round 2).

bsmvideos
March 30, 2012 8:28 am

Andy Reid is so smart.

He will trade out of the first round and give the pick to the Washington Redskins.(it’s only fair since he gave dallas out pick before) He will stockpile the Redskins late round picks for the future greatness that never seems to come with him.

That saves not having to pay 1st round money.

The 2nd round will be TORN ACL GUY. He will be easy and cheap to sign because of his past injury.

The 3rd round will be a African Diamond worker with a “HIGH MOTOR”. This will ensure that Andy Has done something no other coach in NFL history had done during the draft. (last year it was the oldest 1st rounder ever)

The 4th round will be UNDERSIZED GUY. Does’nt matter the position as long as he’s a pipsqueak, guaranteed to were out either in training camp or by the end of the season.

The 5th round is were we get our “diamond in the rough” he will be a quaility player and a starter. We do our best work with these players and these rounds because we don’t have to pay them anything.

6th & 7th round ….See 5th round.

Year 14 of the same old Andy.

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 8:37 am

Who cares what Howie said? It’s all posturing at this point and one big huge game of poker. Do you really think the Eagles are going to indicate their draft plan publicly? All they’re trying to do is convince other teams that they are a threat to draft ANYONE; which is how they should be handling it. Lets not put so much stock into this non-story. Same goes for guys they bring in for private workouts. A lot of that is pure bluffing and them doing their due diligence. You just never know who may fall to you or who could impress you under your own terms. Did anyone think Maclin would fall as far as he did?

Frank22
Frank22
March 30, 2012 8:42 am

Roseman is jerking our chains. They might draft a QB in the first 3 rounds but it will not be in the first. LB will not be taken in the first round either. What was Roseman going to say, no. Highly doubtful.
Defense, Defense, Defense

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 30, 2012 8:42 am

Any QB drafted this year, would only be a project. I agree that we need to start grooming one for the future, but again I say the answer is making a trade to get Ryan Mallett; he’s even better than Andrew Luck at this point, he’s proven he can play in this league. We can definitely do better than Trent Edwards, and Mike Kafka.

Frank22
Frank22
March 30, 2012 8:43 am

just a hunch, obviously I cant say that for a fact

larrwd
larrwd
March 30, 2012 8:48 am

Hes going to draft a quarterback high for job security..

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 8:53 am

gmcliff, Ryan Mallett was drafted to be groomed as the heir apparent to Tom Brady’s. Why would they trade him?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 30, 2012 9:10 am

We have a3 2 yr old, erratic, small, low completion %, high 3.5% career interceptioon guy who has been injured every year of his career under centre.

Behind him is a guy who couldn’t play in front of the terrible Vince Young.

Behind him is a guy who was out of football and has been cut by 3 teams.

Drafting a QB is essential. If you can’t see that….well…..just keep railing about our needs at safety,.

atra1781
March 30, 2012 9:11 am

They need another LB early in this draft. If theres a corner take him too. As far as Qb is concerned that can wait another year. They better draft a RB early in case Shady isn’t signed too. This team looks like a 9-7 8-8 team right now. We all know Lurie won’t fire Reid.

Rocko
Rocko
March 30, 2012 9:18 am

This type of company line from a non-football type of pencil pushin company line is the reason why we suck:

” One of the areas he talked about was the Eagles mentality in approaching this year’s draft. He emphasized the Birds attempt to not be swayed by their needs”
NOT BE SWAYED BY THEIR NEEDS????????????? GET THIS A-HOLE FROM IN FRONT AS THE GM AND GET A REAL HARD CORE GUY IN HERE WHO KNOWS FOOTBALL. HELL I VOTE FOR DAWKINS AS THE NEXT GM HERE. GET THIS SQUIRM OUTTA HERE AND PARTICIPATING IN OUR DRAFTING. CRAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAME OL SAME OL FELLAS…

Rocko
Rocko
March 30, 2012 9:21 am

Vinnie – you’re a bigot who hates vick, we get it.

DCar
DCar
March 30, 2012 9:44 am

bsm, I gotta say, I really enjoy your posts, & find them highly amusing. Your rants come close to rivaling my own, sometimes overtaking them. LMFBO!!! Anybody with a brain molecule, knows he will pull off at least 1 head scratcher or 2 in the draft, to try to prove he is the know all, be all. He can’t help himself. He’s like a fat kid (no pun intended), trying to diet, left in Willy Wonkas by himself, overnight.

drummerwinslow
March 30, 2012 9:49 am

The only thing that would surprise me about the Eagles’ draft would be if they drafted normally, which they never do. There has to be at least one or two picks from left field or a trade up or down that makes your head itch.

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 10:31 am

Rocko, not sure Vinnie’s disdain for Vick means he’s a bigot. Just look at Vick’s numbers and history and it’s easy to not be that high on him; especially given the amount of money he is making. Vick has upside and I hope he can bounce back, but I think we can all agree that his number from the middle of the 2010 season were an aberration.

larrwd
larrwd
March 30, 2012 10:48 am

@paulman i actaully like shae mcclellin but the eagles arent gonna take him just like they didint take justin houston last year… its to hard to convert DEs to linebackers..gocong failed mamula failed babin failed …as for barron his injury worries me

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 30, 2012 11:02 am

Doesn’t matter btc24….Rocko can spout all the “You’re a….” business all he wants.

Shouting out unsubstiantiated insults in the face of evidence is the last refuge of the ignorant.

Besides convieniently ignoring the fact that I also think Edwards is a bum.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 30, 2012 11:10 am

I really wanted Justin Houston last year, he did pretty good last year. He was already a linebacker SAM, he didn’t need to be converted. They blew it on him KC GOT HIM IN THE 3RD ROUND!!!

mryan
mryan
March 30, 2012 11:32 am

Crap…… Geoff Mosher reporting Dunlap was signed because Peters sustained an Achilles injury during a workout.

pheags88
pheags88
March 30, 2012 11:34 am

I think its essential that the FO drafts a QB this draft. I still don’t get the Edwards move. Stupid move in my opinion. Why have a veteran in that spot? He won’t beat out Kafka for the 2nd spot so it should be a rookie there then. If Vick and Kafka go down, its not like Edwards would save the day and lead this team to a SB. Atleast have a rookie there and throw him in the fire and maybe we get lucky and he becomes special…see Bledsoe to Brady. We know what Edwards is, far from special.

Just a thought but the TAnnehill talk coming from the EAgles could just be ploy to make sure that a team from 1-14 spends a pick on him which would could maybe cause a top 5 defensive talent in the draft to drop to the Birds. I already see 7 offensive players that are sure things to go before 15. 2-3 teams could easily reach for oline or Wr help as well so the EAgles will have a great chance to add defensive talent from this draft if they stay at 15. (no way they trade back when the already have 2 2nd round picks sitting there)

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
March 30, 2012 11:42 am

Vinnie ………Do you think that any of us give a sh#t about what you think…huh? do you?…………..It doesn’t matter what, you think! in Dwayne Johnson voice…
you also thought the Eagles should have kept Kolb and traded Vick…sooo again, it doesn’t matter what you think…
@BTC- no actually I can’t agree… Vick struggled with turnovers, no doubt…Fact is the good QB’s in the league, have thrown more INT’s in a season their career than Vick did last season, Eli as an example and he bounced back to win the SB this season…Why can’t Vick?…I like how you dont completely show your true colors about Vick, by saying “you hope he bounces back”…gotta save just a little face in case Vick does damage in 2012…an aberration? what is your expectations from Vick? Possibly his expectations of himself are different…Problem is none of you watched Vick in VT or ATL…Vick has always thrown a nice ball…What has he been asked to do his whole career in VT in ATL? run, run, run..what is AR asking of him, not to run, run, run…coaches expectations are different, QB sneaks are less…maybe under the Eagles what you saw in 2010 isnt an aberration, and quite possibly, Vick had a down season like many of the “great” QB’s currently in the NFL have had through the course of the career…I can’t wait til the season starts…

pheags88
pheags88
March 30, 2012 11:42 am

mryan, none of the eagles beat writers that are close to the team are reporting anything about a Peters injury….hopefully its just bad speculation by some random idiot. That would be a disaster.

Like the resigning of Dunlap…this O-line is basically in tact until 2014 I believe when it comes to the starters at least…add dunlap gibson and Vandervelde for depth and a rookie.

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 11:42 am

Peters having an achilles injury would be a monster blow to this team.

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 11:52 am

Suddenly an offensive lineman in round 1 isn’t out of the question.

paulman
paulman
March 30, 2012 11:54 am

Safety Mark Barron had a pretty good workout yesterday at Alabama’s 2nd Pro-Day even though he still isn’t 100% . He ran a 4.50 – 4.55, looked good in cone and agility drills and lifted 225lbs 25 times.. He feels he’s about 85-90% and should be 100% by May, which is why I moved him back up to the Eagles #15 Selection.. There are lots of Good DT’s that will still be available in 2nd Round

greenfan
greenfan
March 30, 2012 11:58 am

Just when we signed Mathis and thought we had some stability on the offensive line….PETERS has an achilles injury…..##*$@@##……hopefully Mudd will have a rabbit up his sleeve……the knee jerk reaction may be to move Todd over to the left side, but remember that he is protecting Vick’s blindside. I have no confidence that Dunlap can play RT at a high level. Damn….

jakedog
jakedog
March 30, 2012 12:04 pm

songs, excellent post, agree completely, every one talking, fretting about the draft, guess what,it doesn’t mean jack, you are wasting your time, just expect more bonehead decisions for the reasons songs articulated, paulman, find a new hobby

btc24
btc24
March 30, 2012 12:14 pm

First of all RealTalk, I live about 3 hours from Virginia Tech so yes, I did see him play in college and I’ve seen him play in Atlanta. Problem is, his stints with those teams are irrelevant. I’m not trying to “save face” by saying I hope he bounces back. I’m an Eagles fan so I obviously root for anyone on the team to succeed. Just because I think Vick is grossly overrated doesn’t mean I don’t want him to be a Superbowl winning QB for the Eagles. Your point about Vick having less INTs than other QBs in the league last year is a result of him missing plenty of time. Drew Brees and Tom Brady each had as many, if not less, INTs than Vick last year despite playing an entire season. Also, Vick had plenty of fumbles because he can’t hold onto the football which is just as bad, if not worse than INTs. At least with INTs, he’s throwing the ball down the field for the turnover. Also, when was the last time Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Aaron Rodgers had a down year? Those are the elite QBs you keep speaking of.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 30, 2012 12:20 pm

Realtalk. What is it like to read one thing, see one thing, and then completely recognize/interpret is as the exact opposite?

Up is down, down is up in your world.

Enough with the “Eli turned it around” or “bounced back” when looking at his turnovers business because its not true. He has improved year after year since 2006 (with one aberration in 2010), while Vick has stayed the exact same (with one aberration in 2009) his whole career.

The total number of ints isn’t relevant, especially because Eli has thrown the ball hundreds of more times than your hero. What matters is the % int numbers which look like this:

Eli 4.5, 3.1, 3.4, 3.8 (he was at this point being called a disasterous turnover machine, so he abviously went out to fix the problem because…) 2.1, 2.8, 4.7, 2.7. In the last 4 years he’s been in the 2.5% range with one aberration

Vick 2.7, 1.9, (barely threw the ball the first 2 years) then…3, 3.7, 3.4, 3.4, 1.6 (here’s his aberration based on 6 games with no picks – last 1/3 of season he was right back to his usual 3.5%) and then this year 3.3 (that’s a shock)

Eli did not “bounce back” He showed continual and slow improvement every year for the past 5, with one year when he regressed.

Vick has remained the same every year, with one 6 game stretch with no turnovers. Vick did not have a “down year” as you suggest. He had the exact same year he always has had. Same. Same. Same. The only difference was a 6 game stretch when no D-coord had any film on him.

To expect him to be different this year is delusional and not at all based on reality. A frikkin’ pipe dream.

You want to go into the season “hoping” that somehow this year will be different.

Well guess what. Come next offseason you’ll be writing the same posts. Because with Vick its always wash, rince, repeat. But he’s got great skills…maybe next year!! Wash, rince Repeat. He showed some flashes…maybe next year!! Wash, rince, repeat.

I give the guy props for pulling the wool over your eyes for 10 years, but one day you’re going to run out of detergent and won’t be able to wash away his flaws.

And yes…Eagles should have traded Vick and kept Kolb. They’d have been be heading into this draft with 2 top 10 picks. to go with the 2 first rounders last year. We’d be looking forwrd to an exciting future instead of sitting around with another “maybe next year”

Get it into your heads. Mike Vick will not be the Eagles’ QB next year. You all know it in your hearts.

Because we know Vick will not be here next year, the time to do something about the QB position is now.

jott1972
jott1972
March 30, 2012 12:29 pm

when it comes to drafting defensive players, I have no confidence in the Eagles front office….they might as well draft a WR, TE and OL with their first 3 picks and score 40pts per game..

repski
repski
March 30, 2012 12:38 pm

geoffmosher OK, I have confirmation from team source: Peters sustained rupture Achillees. Surgery set for Tuesday. Team likely to announce soon

mryan
mryan
March 30, 2012 12:39 pm

SHIIIIIIIIITTTT

Per Dave Spadaro

“OT Jason Peters has suffered a ruptured Achilles tendon, the #Eagles have announced. He will have surgery on April 2”

repski
repski
March 30, 2012 12:44 pm

time for Paulman to do another draft…

repski
repski
March 30, 2012 12:48 pm

round one Jonathan Martin OT STANFORD

paulman
paulman
March 30, 2012 12:50 pm

Surgery April 2ns with approx 6 months Re-hab time means he will miss OTA/Summper Camp and at best start the the Season on PUP List and then be eligible to play around the 5th/6th Week. If it’s a longer re-hab and some setback occurs, then maybe he goes to IR and is lost for the Entire Season.. Peters has been a pretty quick healer before but this is tough one and just takes time

Paulmans New Mock Draft

Rd 1 (#15) Eagles Select OT Jonathon Martin from Stanford

3 Options the Eagles have

#1) Re-sign King Dunlap Immedaitely and have him take Peters position
#2) Draft Jonathon Martin and stick him at RT from Day 1, and have Herremans slde to LT
#3) Remember that RG Danny Watkins was a OT in College, Slide Watkins to RT, Slide Herramans to LT and have Guards Gibson/Vandervelde battle it out for RG

mryan
mryan
March 30, 2012 12:52 pm

1 year flyer on Marcus Mcneil? We are not getting Kalil in the first, but could position ourselves to move up for Reiff. Honestly, depending on the severity of the injury this could be the end of Peters in midnight green. He’s 30 and has a cap value of $10.75M in 2013.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 30, 2012 1:00 pm

That’s pretty devastating news. That means at least a year out and another struggling (if back at all)

Let the analysis of Riley Reiff, Jonathan Martin et al begin.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 30, 2012 1:02 pm

A third of NFL players never return from ruptured achilles. He’s 30. This will affect draft plans pretty dramatically.

reed_richards
reed_richards
March 30, 2012 1:08 pm

they have already signed Dunlap. regardless of the injury, they already have had their eyes on an O-lineman…Peters is done here…

paulman
paulman
March 30, 2012 1:15 pm

Marcus McNeil is toast, Knee injuries, weight issues and work ethic issues..
Not a Howard Mudd type of OT.. Dunlap should be able to fill in short term
and do ok.. Boy that OT Eric WInston would have looks real good about now, but he signed a deal with KC CHiefs about a week ago

Frank22
Frank22
March 30, 2012 1:35 pm

I like the idea pheags.

I also think Edwards might work out for us. Big, athletic, smart, mobile and a big arm. Let him work with reid and see what he has. Anyone would have failed in buffalo when he was there. was not a very good team at all.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
March 30, 2012 1:36 pm

This is pretty devestating news. Peters was an all pro, this immediately makes Evan Mathis much worse now. They can’t just get rid of Peters here, this guy might be the best LT in the last 15 years.

I think draft is a pretty big option. Doubt they move up to 3 to select Kalil, although he is a beast. My guess is Riley Reiff or the Stanford guy.

Man this is bumming news, I am extremely bummed. But maybe they figure something out. The Texans survived many injuries last year.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 30, 2012 1:42 pm

This team is cursed.

remember the Eagles were going to win it all and “FOG” came out of nowhere.

Randall was playing his best ball a few years later and get is knee tore up “in the pocket”.

Now, we get a middle linebacker only to lose our best offensive lineman while jogging.

CURSED! CURSED! CURSED!

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
March 30, 2012 2:09 pm

Eh… Losing Peters hurts… It shouldnt cause a panic….. the Eagles should be able to overcome it..

the problem is that people dont trust Andy to make a good decision here..

the only way I feel comfortable going into next season is if I can count on everything going right for all the major players on the team…

thats just inst realistic for this team… I dont trust Andy to make good decisions on the fly..

He usually prepares his team well… His weakness comes when it is time to adjust

He doesnt adjust to even the most obvious problems (like Juan castillo and Casey Matthews… Or like the year we had no punt returners) then comes back talking how he “goofed”

I dont feel like this injury should worry us, but I know better.

I simply cannot trust Andy…

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 30, 2012 2:21 pm

@ Songs- The one and only, Songs………The fog came out of nowhere..LMBO!!!!!!!!!!..Hahahahahahahh!!!!!!! Sad but true.

Dunlap’s sorry butt is going to have to fill in for Peters. Unfortunately we don’t have a more suitable backup. I don’t like Jonathan Martin, he’s Winston Justice all over again. I wouldn’t trade up to get any offensive lineman except DeCastro.

We are going to have to draft some offensive lineman GMCliff likes:

1. Kelechi Osemele – OG – 6-5 335 lbs – Athletic enough to play in Howard Mudd’s system.

2. Bobbie Massie – OT – 6-6 312 lbs – Athletic, powerful, potential to play left tackle, more suited for the right

3. Mitchell Schwartz- OT – 6-6 318 lbs – Jon Runyanisck, on the left side.
4. Brandon Brooks- OG – 6-5 343 lbs – Larry Allen type of domination Potential.
5. Troy Brown – OT- 6-5 310 lbs – Project, but has potential to be a starter on the left side.