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Could S Mark Barron or CB Stephon Gilmore Be Eagles 1st Round Pick?

The Eagles insist that they are going to draft the best player on their board.  You’ve read and heard from Eagles GM Howie Roseman that they’re going to ignore their needs and get the best guy available.

Remember that this is a copy cat league and right now the Birds are copying the Giants.  Think back to Giants GM Jerry Reese and how they drafted defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul despite having two Pro Bowl defensive ends, Osi Umenyiora and Justin Tuck, already on their roster.

The Birds have two Pro Bowl defensive ends, Jason  Babin and Trent Cole, but with the new motto in mind, it doesn’t rule out them selecting North Carolina defensive end Quintin Coples or Illinois defensive end Whitney Mercilus.  Remember that this is the “Get The Best Player On The Board Draft”.

In another interesting situation, the last two drafts have seen the Eagles select safeties in the second round each year, Nate Allen in 2010 and Jaiquawn Jarrett in 2011.  Neither has stepped up and proven themselves to be legitimate stars.  Allen has showed some promise but a knee injury has slowed him, so that the jury is still out.

Jarrett hasn’t even proven that he can play in this league as of yet, so the Birds can’t have any confidence in him.

So with this scenario at safety, what do the Birds do if the best safety in the draft, Alabama’s Mark Barron is still on the board when they make their first pick on Thursday night.

Barron is by far the best safety in the draft. He’s got it all, great size, tremendous speed and a sure tackler. The guy is a big time playmaker, who would be the replacement for recently-retired Eagles great Brian Dawkins.  Barron was a defensive leader of this year’s National Championship team Crimson Tide squad and he could help the Birds have a big year.

The Eagles could also wind up picking a cornerback in the first round, despite being expected to start the season with Nmandi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromarite as the starter after they trade Pro Bowler Asante Samuel.

Taking the best player on the board means the Birds could draft  South Carolina cornerback Stephon Gilmore with their first pick.  Some think he’s the best cornerback in the draft and he could play the nickel back position in the slot with Asomugha and Rodgers-Cromartie outside.  The fact that he could do a great job covering the slot, gives Gilmore being the Birds first pick a decent chance of becoming a fact.

One guy you could rule out becoming an Eagle is Mississippi defensive end Fletcher Cox.  There was talk earlier in the offseason about the Eagles grabbing Cox with their first pick, but he’s flying up draft boards at this moment and may wind being the first defensive player to be selected.

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Rasheed1
Rasheed1
April 25, 2012 12:18 pm

Mark Barron needs to be the pick if he is still on the board when the Eagles make a selection

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 12:24 pm

The eagles have managed to confuse us more than ever before. We have no idea where they will go in this draft. Ive heard every position mentioned on this site as a guy the birds are targeting. Its all speculation at this point. I still think they go DE Quinton Coples. They may draft a corner. But if Barron is there they may blink. Im hearing the birds wont go Yeremiah Bell in FA. Id rather the birds focus on getting a dominant DE/DE that can team with there already tough DLine..

dman
dman
April 25, 2012 12:26 pm

I’m ok with either player. Mark Barron is a stud, and Gilmore has the potential to be something special. And that’s if the birds trade Samuel..

Frank22
Frank22
April 25, 2012 12:43 pm

I agree Jon… I do not think they will go Barron due to having selected two safeties in the second round in the last two years. I could see them going with Gilmore but I hope they go with a Dlineman.. A guy like coples would be nice.

jott1972
jott1972
April 25, 2012 12:43 pm

the Eagles will need to trade up to acquire either one….they will be gone before #15…. Barron is going either to the Bills at #10 or the Cowboys at #14.

Gilmore is rising up the charts and just behind Claiborne on draft boards… he will either go to the Jags at #7 or the Panthers at #9.

paulman
paulman
April 25, 2012 12:48 pm

Cowboys are taking Safety Mark Barron at #14 so he will be off the board
CB Gilmore is a player and many have him rated as the 2nd Top CB in this Draft (I actually like him over LSU M Claiborn due to being more physical and an excellent tackler) .. I would love the Eagles to grab him and groom him as DRC Replacement for 2013..
If all the Top 3-4 Defensive players are off the board, (Cox,Brockers,BArron,Gilmore,Kuechley) don’t be surprised to hear OL Gordy Glenn or WR Michael Floyd’s name called out for the Eagles if they are unable to trade down which is going to be diffcult from mid-round on to do

btc24
btc24
April 25, 2012 12:55 pm

In other news, PFT is reporting that Vontaze Burfict failed his drug test at the combine. I don’t think things could get any worse for this guy.

Songs, any thoughts on this so called playmaker and how you’d like the Eagles to draft him?

Erock
Erock
April 25, 2012 12:56 pm

As long as the kids a contributor tis year it’s a good pick. D-lin would be great cause those guys get chipped up and wear down. Do grooming a rook and haven him for rotation depth would be good. But the same could be said for a db…groom him for when Nam is ready to move back to safety.Or when he’s ready to move on.

Due for a good draft here…..got Shady and Maclin a few years ago with a great draft.Dup that and get some depth in later rounds. Try and get a good all-purpose guy.

Barron would give us two Bama guys on d. C-ship pedigree is needed so that would be nice. Gillmore is a great player as well. Heck man you could convinve me of any pick right now im so amped on the draft coming up.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 25, 2012 1:04 pm

Any old Firemen who plays hockey available?

Stevo
Stevo
April 25, 2012 1:06 pm

haha- Now Songs boy failed a drug test. This guy is on his way to working at MC D’s in no time.

Stevo
Stevo
April 25, 2012 1:07 pm

i heard when they gave Burifict his wonderlic test he pee’d on it and turned it back in. He thought it was a 2nd drug test.

Stevo
Stevo
April 25, 2012 1:09 pm

In all honesty- i wouldnt even be mad if they took this guy with like a 5th round pick. He can tackle- something we need. im only poking fun at you Songs- no hate here.

Stevo
Stevo
April 25, 2012 1:09 pm

Collins released after a major neck injury- this has gotten EAGLES written all over it.

Frank22
Frank22
April 25, 2012 1:36 pm

Pman – dont you think they will try to resign DRC and groom Gilmore for Asmo’s spot? If in fact he is the pick.

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 25, 2012 1:38 pm

They won’t be selecting Barron, or Gilmore. Mute issue.

btc24
btc24
April 25, 2012 1:38 pm

Asante Samuel officially traded to the Falcons.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 1:45 pm

Mark Barron will not make it to #14 to the cowboys, you can put a stamp on that. His stock is at an all time high. Hes the only quality safety in this draft and there are alot of teams in need of a safety. Keep in mind the ability that teams have to trade up. We see that every single year. So the cowboys will not be able to select barron at 14 they will have to move up..

gmcliff
gmcliff
April 25, 2012 1:46 pm

In my opinion, both have been overhyped, and will be assummed as bust in 3 years. Barron is a GOOD player, but he isn’t really THAT good. He is the best in this draft, which tells you what kind of talent is available a safety this year.

Gilmore is just an OK prospect, who is being overhyped as something special, but is just ok.

I wouldn’t trade up for either one of them…..GMCliff is not impressed with either one of them.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 1:49 pm

**Eagles News**

ATL has made a deal with Asante Samuel on a 3yr 18.5million dollar deal. This opens up the opportunity for the Eagles to deal Asante. Deal becomes official at 4pm.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 1:52 pm

My Thoughts: Birds strike again. They make a solid deal. But the problem is that they traded him to a nfc rival. I guess we gotta take the good with the bad bc hey had to deal him. The birds were running out of options for a potential deal with other teams..

jakedog
jakedog
April 25, 2012 1:53 pm

It’s not knews jh, btc was all over it, man you are slipping

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 1:56 pm

Looks like the eagles may very well draft a CB early. With this current deal they made to unload Asante, they almost have to get a another young CB thru the draft. They draft a CB early.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 2:01 pm

Jakedog i knew about this an hour ago. I had to wait to report. I also wanted to get the figures of the deal.

dawkplex1221
dawkplex1221
April 25, 2012 2:03 pm

SAMUEL GOT TRADED!!!

btc24
btc24
April 25, 2012 2:04 pm

Thanks jakedog. Jon Hart is doing his best to try and replace Paulman. Sounds like the Eagles got a 6th round pick. More than likely, whoever is picked at that spot will not even make the team.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:09 pm

I disagree they go early at CB this year – they have Rodgers, asmo to start – Hansen in slot and a couple young guys (Marsh and Hughes and one other I think) they let Bowles work with for a season…

course – this year they get to have up to 90 on the roster so maybe they bring another one in – still leaning to DT/DE and LB woth first three picks

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:11 pm

Also think this is a good trade – people are remembering who Samuel WAS and everything they are saying about playmaker etc WAS true – it was not true last year.. time to move forward – use the cap saving to extend (McCoy and Maclin) and sign some FAs (RB, WR and S)

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 2:13 pm

Anyone can write “Michael Vick got traded.” But when JH says it you know its official. JH has some great sources.. No slippage from JH..

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:14 pm

Songs – as we have had great luck with old fireman that can also play hockey – I agree – are there any in this draft – we are batting 100% with old fireman that play hockey making the NFL all rookie team – lets keep that streak going!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:14 pm

JH – who they gonna draft?

btc24
btc24
April 25, 2012 2:19 pm

I hope the Eagles draft a DE or DT. CB is not nearly as pressing of a need as these two positions; especially with our aging line.

paulman
paulman
April 25, 2012 2:20 pm

Old News Guys, Paulman reported this yesterday and of course, no one believed me.. .
Why do you guys keep forgetting about CB Trevard Lindley who will compete at Slot CB and may just beat out J Hanson who did not have a strong season last year

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:22 pm

BTC agree – best DE or LB in round 1 (will be happy with a DT) and continue on with first 3 picks till we have DT, DE and LB – find a KR/PR in there somewhere and the rest is gravy

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 25, 2012 2:22 pm

Navy- No idea. I hope its Coples but like i said the eagles have managed to confuse us more than they ever have before in regards to this draft. I heard a player from every position mentioned on this site as a guy the birds will draft. I have no idea where they go Navy.. In previous years i would have an idea but not this year.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
April 25, 2012 2:23 pm

Now, we know who will be the next NFC Team to get a Superbowl before the Eagles..The Atlanta Falcons….

Watch the side DRC plays on become the new Demetrius Patterson side.

watch.

BLIND SPOT ANDY!!!

Why couldn’t we just improve the areas of weakness like safety instead trading the best corner from last Season?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:26 pm

JH – I think it was bleeding green or one of those sites that talked about how the last 3 years the guy the eagles pcikes had no clue the birds were targetting them – what makes it fun – I an ref’ing tommorrow night when the birds pick… hoping a fan in the stands has a Eagle shirt on so I can ask (how I found out the flyers won sunday – that Orange stuck out!) Funny look on the guys face when I walked over and pointed at him – – Hey Buddy, the Flyers win? – well – it was funny to me

Pman – and yes, Lindley – wasn;t he the one they talked about McDermit making the D so complicated he couldn’t learn it… – anyway – a few young CBs to give Bowles a chance to work with

jakedog
jakedog
April 25, 2012 2:26 pm

No play makers on d now, just weakened the defense and turn over capability, this team will draft for the future, probably tannehill if available or move up to get him

Erock
Erock
April 25, 2012 2:38 pm

Lindley’s not even on the team anymore.

Erock
Erock
April 25, 2012 2:42 pm

I thought they cut em…guess they brought him back. He’s a waste. Run with the vets. Bowles may be able to help him progress though,good point Navy.

Bowles is a great addtion to staff….he’ll get Nam back to All Pro status this year.No reason that guy cant be top shelf again. Playing him off the line…come on!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:43 pm

Erock – sorry – he is listed as #35 on theteam roster – 2nd year out of Kentucky?? What made you think he wasn’t on the team? – he was resigned to the Team in Jan 2012?

sullybleedsgreen
sullybleedsgreen
April 25, 2012 2:48 pm

If Gilmore is available @ 15 he will be there guy. I don’t see the Eagles taking Barron that early they have never thought highly or invested highly in th safety position. If the Eagles pick Corner with their 1st pick there will be quality players available in the 2nd @ D line and LB…
Gilmore can come in and play Nickle right away and if DRC doesn’t work out he can replace him next year.

schiller
schiller
April 25, 2012 2:49 pm

Jh is a fraud

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:50 pm

sorry E – I think we crossed swords with the reposts – yeah – lets hope Bowles gets them all going in the right direction –

question – anyone think Bowles might have had some input into Samuel staying or going?

Erock
Erock
April 25, 2012 2:55 pm

What plays did Asante make last year…specially down the stretch when he was hurt? I feel ya on losing a player like that but he’s not the same player he was in 08-09′. So it’s time to move on…he didnt make any bigtime plays last year to change a game. Give Nam and DRC a shot being a year wiser in the system.

Ryans is a playmaker. legit 3down MLB.

Stevo
Stevo
April 25, 2012 2:55 pm

Songs- i have a question for you and im not trying to start a fight but why do you love asam so much when he is ALL the things you hate about the kind of D we have played- cant hit, cant tackle, cant press.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 2:56 pm

SBG – never invested heavily in the safety position? hm… could you please define – we currently have 2 2nd round picks as out safeties – Mike Lewis was a 2nd – They have attempted to draft a couple guys JR Reed – who I really liked both as a KR and a safety – was a 4th and had his career ruined when he tore up his leg jumping a fence to get away from his dog? They have tried a couple free agents – Page and Marlow Jackson (he got hurt as soon as he got here) Quinton Demps was a fourth rounder – I think he is playing for the Texans??

So – what does it mean to ‘think highly’ or ‘invest’ – your defintion

Erock
Erock
April 25, 2012 3:01 pm

I think he mighta had a say.He hadnt coached him so i would say not much.I think the $ is a big issue.He doesnt warrant that cake anymore. Thanks for the plays Sant….good luck.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
April 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Erock – solid post –

Stevo – cause songs likes to talk out both ends of his ass at the same time, al lthe time – same thing with why is he always bitching about the things he hates on how the eagles draft – and he will list them – and then turn around and say “draft Burflict’

I mean Dennis Erickson coached at Miami U – how bad must Burflict have been for Erickson – who let some real shit go on at Miami – to bench Burflict…

schiller
schiller
April 25, 2012 3:02 pm

Navy, cj gaddis, blaine bishop, page, there’s more too…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 25, 2012 3:07 pm

Apparantly Samuel has been traded to ATL.