• December 10, 2022

Eagles Will Win At Least One, Maybe Two Of The Last Four

I think the Eagles might win a game or two down the stretch.  I saw something last week which resembled a football team and all the Birds need is for the secondary to show up and they really have a good shot to win one or two of the last four games.  The key to me is their ability to score.

Bryce Brown, Nick Foles and the offensive line played well enough to give them a chance to win against the Cowboys, but the pathetic play of the secondary cost them the game.  If Brown can stop fumbling, and he and Foles can keep moving the ball while the offensive line continues to play well, they’re going to score some points.

Putting points on the board will give them a good chance because one, two or three of these upcoming teams are going to take them for granted. This will allow the Eagles to screw up the high draft pick.

I also think one of the keys to the Eagles improvement offensively is the play calling.  Finally, Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg have accepted the fact that they don’t have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady playing the quarterback position, so they need to take some of the weight off of the quarterback by running the football.

I hope you noticed that Michael Vick wasn’t hit very hard when he sustained his concussion.  The last shots he took weren’t major hits but he had been pummeled so long that the building up of all the hits finally took him over the hill.  I think he’s been slow coming back because he sustained as many serious hits as any quarterback in the history of the game in one season.

You can definitely criticize Vick for the way he played this year, but you can’t criticize him for his toughness.  He’s definitely one of the toughest to ever play the position.  Still, you know he’s not going to be back next year.

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1977
1977
December 6, 2012 9:51 am

One game G. if the giants dont need it at the end of the year, maybe other than that i dont see it.the secondary is to lifeless for this team to get a big stop to ever win a game

pdiddy
pdiddy
December 6, 2012 9:58 am

Honestly at this point I kind of hope they don’t win lets get the best draft pick possible at this point. It’s tough as a fan to say that but it’s just how I feel right now.

Denny Basens
Editor
December 6, 2012 10:07 am

The offense may be playing well enough to win a game, but as long as the defense is still good to let up more than 30 points a game, it doesn’t matter.

Tell me how they’re going to stop Doug Martin, Vincent Jackson, and Mike Williams this week? Tell me how they’re going to handle A.J. Green on Thursday? Tell me what adjustments they’ll make (because they’ve been so good at making adjustments all year), that they’ll be able to fare any better against RG III than they did a few weeks ago?

The only shot for a win comes against the Giants in Week 17, but even if they have everything wrapped up Tom Coughlin isn’t a coach that believes in resting starters, so you may not even catch a break there…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 10:14 am

I think the Eagles have a chance to win this week. Going to be hard for TB to get up for the game after 2 big losses in a row (atl and Denv). They’ve also got New Orleans next week so may be looking ahead. Martin’s production has tailed off dramatically which often happens to rooks at this time of year.

Now while I think the Birds have a chance this week, I expect a win the following on week against Cinci. I circled that as a W before the season began. All the advantages are with the Birds, Thursday home game + Cinci looking ahead to divisional matchups vs Pitt (which will decide their playoff fate) and Balt. 1/3 empty stadium with no atmosphere. Cinci should come in here and lay an egg.

The final 2 games, Wsh and NYG now look very difficult as they will both still be fighting for a playoff spot.

I can see Eagles winning 1, perhaps 2 of their final 4 games……there was a little perceivable “jump” in the O last week….so that should carry to a couple wins……still should be able to get the OT from AM or LB from the Irish at the draft…..

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 10:16 am

Vick’s has been battered over the last 2 Seasons and like a Boxer who continually takes shots to the head, eventually, it catches up to you..
I think he will end up working for the United Way or some Charitable Organzation or even for the NFL in some Capacity, but his Football Playing Days are done in my opinion, and that’s not just for the Eagles, but done completely. I cannot see a GM/HC who is going to take a Chance on a battered 33-34 QB with history of Concussions who plays a reckless style and has not played a Complete NFL Season since his early Seasons with the Falcons.. No way, No how and to bring in him as a Back-up makes no sense for any Team that I see out there…

DixieFan
DixieFan
December 6, 2012 10:16 am

If we lose out, we draft Luke Joeckel or Star Lotulelei. If we win one or two games down the stretch, look for us to draft Dee Milliner. This is not reaching but rather letting the board come to you. Either way, the Eagle will get a good
player. Unrealistic that we (or anyone) will draft as well as we did last year. But got to fix the secondary!

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 11:16 am

A Sneaky suspiscion that Eagles get on a Roll and win final 4 Games to
finish at 7-9..
Coach AR is retained by Owner Lurie after the Turn Around
Juan Castillo comes back as OL Coach, and Sean McDermott (who gets fired in Carolina) comes back to be the DC and everyone lives Happily Ever After
Eagles end up with the #16 Pick and Select RB Stefan Taylor from Stanford

1977
1977
December 6, 2012 12:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

Ah, the there is no god scenario. NICE!!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 11:32 am

Eagles only chance for wins are Cincy but they are hunting a wild card spot and the Skins who are also in the hunt, they get smoked Sunday. Damn I don’t see another win this year. @VINNIE, now I am getting depressed.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
December 6, 2012 2:23 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

who is going to block Geno Atkins ? and better yet who is going to cover AJ Green? we already know Trent Cole and Brandon Graham cannot contain RG3 while Kendricks and Allen are getting pancaked

DCar
DCar
December 6, 2012 12:09 pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s the funniest $#!T I’ve EVER read! GC, you should be a writer for SNL. They need your comic expertise! Dear God my sides hurt! 😆

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 12:43 pm

Bengals will run over the Eagles as will TB Bucs this week and hit a few Deep plays to WR’s Jacksons & Williams over this demoralized and already Fed-Exed in the Season Eagle Secondary

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 6, 2012 12:53 pm

I will be surprised if the Eagles win anymore this year. They don’t care if they win, so they won’t. Many of these players already know their situation for the future – either they have their job secured or they lost their job already. Most of them have nothing to play for.

For Who? For What? lol

Xevious
Xevious
December 6, 2012 1:28 pm

I Honestly see the Eagles Putting up a few 30 spots but losing 3 out of 4 with the win coming against the Redskins. I think Tampa is gonna put up some Major points with Freeman hitting his big receivers, Dallas Clark and Martin out of the backfield. Martin will have a Decent game and look for Blount to actually be relavant. Bengals will put up a decent amount of points. The Redskin game will be a shoot out and I look for a 40-33 game lol. Finally two scenarios 1 Eagles get smashed by the g-men or 2 Eagles play spoiler against their hatd rival and Foles beats Eli at his own game….My version is exciting and we get a fun 4 games to watch lol.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
December 6, 2012 2:05 pm

GCobb you might wind up on Espn’s C’mon Man segment after reading ” I think the Eagles might win a game or two down the stretch”

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
December 6, 2012 2:12 pm

until I see Foles succeed throwing the ball in the cold, I’m not a believer

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 2:23 pm

Until I see Foles you know actually win a game then I’m good. This comment is for everyone who thinks the QB is responsible for everything. Defense sucks Qb will make it better. Special teams suck, Qb will make it better. Rb keeps fumbling Qb will make it better.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 2:37 pm

Rivisionist historian.

The team has/had multiple problems.

QB was most important and needed to be dealt with 1st. Hopefully it has been.

Oline problems have also improved lately, but this was also predicted due to removal of terrible quarterback.

Now on to fixing other problems which will take several years. Oh, and QB will also take season and a half to fix, so good thing it got started now.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 2:40 pm

Stop making excuses, how many starts did Luck have at the pro level? As you pointed out that number of times a good QB makes everything better.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 3:45 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

it does.

Indy was bottom of the league at just about everything last year. O, D…everything. Now they’re rolling because team has hope and confidence….well that and the colplete creampuff sched they had weeks 7 to 10.

If Luck had come here, I would argue the results would have been similar.

Foles is not Luck. But he is better than Vick.

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 4:10 pm

Mostly with Coaching and A mindset Vinnie
The COlts were never the same (Even Peyton) once HC Jim Caldwell Sat his Starters in a late Season game ruining their Chance for a Perfect Season when the were 13-0 or 14-0 a few Years back.. Players want to compete and win and HC Caldwell took a chance for making History from that 53 Man Roster Squad and lost all respect and authority even they they still had Peyton Manning and that Indy COlts Team was never the same

ChuckRob
ChuckRob
December 6, 2012 3:05 pm

QB was not the biggest problem on this team, but whatever makes people feel good. Physical toughness, play calling, attitude are the things this team needs the most… that’s a knock at coaching and drafting/recruiting of new players. Time for a change… If the Eagles called the offensive game plan the way they have the last 2 weeks, no way this team is 3-9. You help a QB by running the ball, football 101… Vick is a punch drunk QB, the hits he took that knocked him out this time were not very big hits, I truly believe (like you G), that it has been an accumulation of hits over the last 2 years. It wouldn’t even surprise me if he’s been playing thru a concussion… Anyway I won’t belabor that issue since Vick and And y will be gone and it’s time to move on. I’m just not one that will blame Vick for this mess of a football team.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 3:51 pm

I agree toughness and attitude are important…especially attitude….and the Birds had a terrible attitude…I think this was due to me-first players on team…and we know who they are. ….bad attitude also comes from seeing the same thing over and over. Nothing kills the attitude of Oline than watching the QB improvise 25% of the time and then take hits and get hurt and then all blame put onto oline. Those guys were dragged through the mud every single week on TV.

Do you think they felt all the troubles were on them?

I guarantee that that group is not upset at all about the change behind centre.

There was a noticable jump in the play last week. Linemen and WRs yrds downfiel to block….good pockets for the QB. Criper execution. No wasted timeouts……seemed to me the team had snapped out of their doldrums a bit (on offence anyway)….that’s not all due to the fact that they ran the ball a bit more in the first half.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 4:05 pm

Yep its all the Qb, so by that rationale the o-line hated blocking for Shady because they never knew where he was running? Okayyyy.

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 4:13 pm

Plus a lot of new OL were not invited to VIck’s Wedding, so they wanted paybak and let him get beat-up.. All of a sudden a few more Cordon-Blue Plates and an Open Bar in June doesn’t look that expensive to Vick.. A Tactical Mistake that he has paid dearly for, don’t you think..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 4:19 pm

No dimwit….they weren’t getting dragged through the mud whenever Shady was hit at the LOS….but every single game, from the mid-first quarter, the common narrative from every single colourman was…”what a horrible line…they’re getting Vick killed…they’re terrible” Over and over and over.

Now suddenly they have a QB who is being sackes at half the rate, and “miraculously” gets off 90+% of his throws instead of 75%.

Plus he says things like:
“Yeah, that’s the way I’ve always played. You just have to have that vision downfield. Those guys are blocking their butts off up front, the backs are helping and you have the receivers running their butts off downfield, so it’s your job as the quarterback to sit in there and make the throw no matter what. You play this game long enough, you figure out how to do it. You’ve just got to keep your vision downfield and you can’t feel the rush.”

and then goes out and actually gets that throw off 9 out of every 10 times.

I guarantee you that will change a teams attitude pretty quickly.

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 4:25 pm

Vick,D-Jax,T Cole, Asmo are all Cancer’s on this Roster and need to be
eliminated in the Final Analysis

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 4:25 pm

Okay genius if you say so, you can come up with any and every reason but you still make no sense. The majority of the most big hits he took were in the pocket trying to make a play down field.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 4:39 pm

usually when an RB or TE was sitting 5 yrds away for an easy 7 yrd completion.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 4:41 pm

But he waited and waited (remember 2nd worst in the league taking sacks over 3 seconds) looking for that ESPN highlight throw. Got killed.

Oline or coaches blamed.

The story of Vick in 3 sentences.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 6, 2012 4:41 pm

I know one thing – a great QB can make a lot of other problems disappear.

Using the Colts as an example, notice that they went from 10-6 with Manning to 2-14 with Painter, and now back to 8-4 with Luck. I would say their success is very much linked to their QB.

And if you don’t think Vick’s 9 INT’s and 10 Fumbles (in 9 games) had a lot to do with the outcome of the first 9 games this season you are nuts.

IMO – Andy Reid’s biggest mistake as the Eagles coach was bringing Vick to Philadelphia and making him the starting QB. He deserves to be fired for that.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 6, 2012 5:00 pm

@irish Eagle – of course turnovers has something to do with the outcome of the games…

But honestly, Vick had the majority of his turnovers in the 1st 3 games (6 INT’s in the 1st 2 games)….in which the Eagles won, by the way…so the outcome was positive and he led the team to game winning drives) Over the next 6 games Vick had 8 TDs and 3 INT’s….
As for the fumbles he had 2 loss fumbles against AZ, he has a total of 4 loss fumbles on the season) Which breaks down to 1 loss fumble over the last 6 games he played…

So the last 6 games Vick played he had 8 TD’s 3INT’s and 1fumble…

So for your point, when Vick turned the ball over at a high rate, the Eagles won those games….Once the QB settled down the defense couldn’t hold anyone and the O Line continued to fall apart…

Try watching the games…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 5:17 pm

And those 2 fumbles directly resulted in the loss at Ariz……listen….

10 fumbles is 10 fumbles still bouncing around on the ground. Still a negative play even if Eagles’ recover.

And there’s a psychological effect. Vick has led QBs in fumbles every year of his career. Its a problem he’s never fixed (nor attempted to??)

Look at how everyone is harping on Brown – he “MUST” fix the problem…..yet what do teammates see? There’s Vick with the ball on the turf 11x in 2005, 9x in 2006, 11x in 2010, 11x in 2011, 10x and counting in 2010…..

So what do teammates see? There’s no accountability for that guy.

And on the field….shoulders slump…not again….not again….

Look…go ahead and defend Vick all you want on the toughness, etc…I’ll give you that….but cut out trying to defend him on the turnovers. The guy was the absolute king of keeping the other team in the game. Had been his entire career.

He’s not going to skate on that.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 7, 2012 10:02 am

OK and take not that Foles has fumbled in every single game he’s played in regular season. 6 total fumbles in 4 games..maybe not for a loss of possession, but as you say still negative plays.

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 5:37 pm

3 Biggest plays that affected Vick’s Stay with the Eagles

2010 – Throwing an INT versus the Bears in the End-Zone
2010 – Taking a Sack from Blitzin CB, never reacted, fumbled and gave up a 60 yard TD return which blew a #2 Seed for the Eagles in their best Chance
2011 – Trowing another Int in the End-Zone versus Buffalo as the EAgles were ready to take command

I don’t hate Vick the man, I actuually admire his redemption story which I have stated numerous time but I do hate Vick as the QB… Enough and good riddance

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 6, 2012 5:49 pm

I was at the Buffalo game and there was a worse play Paulman. Last play of the first half.

Was right in front of me as we were 20 yrd line lower deck.

In FG range with 9 secs left. Tried for TD. Bills rushed 3. No pressure at all.

Clocked ticked….and ticked,,,,and he stood there. Doing nothing. Standing…6….5….4…..3…Guys in front of me were – “throw the ball” …I think I got off a “what the fuck are you doing?” standing…and then when the clock got to 1 he threw it threw the endzone but time expired.

That was the absolute last straw for me. He had no awareness of time, place, situation. abd there was no pressure at all…just stood there.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 6:03 pm

hmmm and we seem to have had a QB who on a regular basis screwed up at the end of halves, I think he led us to 4 NFC Championship games, what’s your point?

daggolden
daggolden
December 6, 2012 5:52 pm

@ paulman who are we talking about Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer or Matt Cassell or perhaps Tony Romo, I got a Seattle memory of him. That stiff in NY is a joke how the hell does he continue to start? I can name specific plays with about 15 QBs in the NFL that havent won shit. I uess poor MV is the only QB accountable. Kordell Stewart may have a point about how certain QBs are held at different standards.

daggolden
daggolden
December 6, 2012 5:54 pm

I forgot to add that stiff Ryan Fitzpatrick. Amazing how he has a job. How many playoff games has he won? How many pro bowls has he gone to? How many losing seasons does that guy get. lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 5:56 pm

Thank you daggolden, we can pick and chose any number of plays from any QB win or lose, oh wait I remember Payton throwing an interception in the Super Bowl that was returned for a td or Brett Farve killing endless seasons for Green Bay with stupid interceptions see we can go on and on with this nonsense

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 6:01 pm

Vinnie, I hope for your sake Foles can play because I want to see you spin your way out when he turns out to be a stiff. Wait I can’t wish that I’m an Eagles fan.

daggolden
daggolden
December 6, 2012 6:06 pm

I got no problem moving on from Vick. But when you get fans like vinnie who constantly bash Vick and there are all these STIFFS playing QB who havent done half the shit Vick has ever done its comical.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 7, 2012 12:30 am
Reply to  daggolden

ummmm….because I want there to be stiffs on other teams. If sanhez was the QB of the eagles I’d be releasing venom.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 6:12 pm

I agree daggolden the Vick train has left the station barring something crazy, but these dudes take the ridiculous to another level. You have RGIII playing the exact style Vick played coming into the league and it’s like a revelation or something.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 7, 2012 12:31 am
Reply to  Biglion821

RGIII “exact same style” as Vick. In your pre-pubescent Vick fantasies perhaps.

DCar
DCar
December 7, 2012 1:59 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Except RGIII is actually a QB with athleticism, that has a brain, not an Athlete playing QB, with no brain. RGIII can actually read a DF, the blitz, & had 70% comp, in college & about 67% in his short pro career.

paulman
paulman
December 6, 2012 6:17 pm

Yes but RGIII can actually read Defenses and gets rid of the ball to open recievers in stride when he wants/needs to..
Vick could never read Defenses and strictly had to rely on his athleticism to mmake plays.. RGIII is light years ahead of where VIck was when he came out of College.. It’s not even close..

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 6:59 pm

Vinnie was vilified, scorned, called names, racist, you name it for boldly predicting that Vick was a mirage of a good nfl quarterback, this goes back at least two years, when most of us got caught up in that six game stretch…..

Well guess what, vinnie turned out to be right, you can make every excuse, point the finger elsewhere on Vick, but vinnie is right, always has been, and he will bevrightbon foles

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 8:17 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Whatever Jake, all he has done is shown everyone his hatred for Vick and the ridiculous lengths he’ll go to try and justify it.

DCar
DCar
December 7, 2012 2:00 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Big, maybe, but that doesn’t make him wrong!

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 7:00 pm

Vinnie replaces paulman and songs as the sage on gcobb

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
December 6, 2012 8:05 pm

Anyone care to explain how Alex Smith can go from 1st round bust
to 19 and 5 over the last 2 years

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 8:13 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

Careful Vinnie will fill up the page with stats explaining how it happened.

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 8:23 pm

I don’t give a crap about his motives he iis correct, although I do not believe he has any motive other than seeing the best quarterback under center, how many of you Vick defenders, apologists can say the same?

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 8:33 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Your wrong Jake this dude was hoping the team tanked, he is no real Eagle fan. Meanwhile I could care less who the QB is as long as the team wins. I don’t like Foles but I hope he’s the answer.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 7, 2012 12:32 am
Reply to  jakedog

ty Jakedog.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
December 6, 2012 8:26 pm

How does Eli Manning have 213 total turnovers
140 Int’s 73 fumbles
&
Mike Vick have 167
81 Int’s 86 fumbles

But Eli have 2 rings
Can someone explain that to me ?

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 8:28 pm

Vinnie the most reverend, sorry songs, you are now just the reverend songs, followed by paulman and mr. Bsm videos, all experts on football, long live the most reverend vinnie

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 7, 2012 12:33 am
Reply to  jakedog

Ego swelling…..

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
December 6, 2012 8:29 pm

Why question my motives and not his ?

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 6, 2012 8:29 pm

Kordell Stewart couldn’t have been talking about Vick when he said some QB are held to a different standard. Because Vick’s career QB stats suck compared to most starting NFL QB’s. A career completion percentage under 60% – only cracked the 20 TD/season mark 2 times in 10 years – never threw for 3500 yards in any season.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 6, 2012 8:38 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

If you don’t think the standards are different you haven’t really been paying attention. We are not going to start that argument please.

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 8:46 pm

We question your motives because Vick is not that good yet you promote him over others, vinnie puts out the facts,, yet you argue the facts, always an excuse for the facts, winners never have excuses, long live the most reverend vinnie

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 6, 2012 8:52 pm

our biggest problem before Vick was Andy Reid.

I know some of you guys who just want to see a white quarterback won’t admit this, but it’s true.

Did Vick, trade up to draft Graham with Earl Thomas sitting right there?

Dd McNabb trade out of the first round to pick up garbage ass Kolb who is no longer on the team?

Who made the offensive line coach the defensive coordinator and hired an defensive line coach before hiring putting a competent Defensive Head in place?

Who for years told this knowledgeable fan base that Championship teams don’t need number 1 receivers, and that Linebackers are not important?

I’m insinuating these points because you apologists on here would like to point to McNabb & Vick to why we’ve failed under Reid, yet Brees, Brady, Rothlesberger, or any of the Mannings would not have succeeded under these same conditions our QB’s were forced to play under.

Look at Foles..

He is padding a losing record yet people see promise…. but if Vick would have did the same exact things as Foles in the last few games, you would have been blasting him today.

So, what you guys are saying is give Foles a chance and if he fail, we’ll live with losing until we get the right white QB, ….well we’ve had those before Cunningham and won nothing.

I think the biggest fault in having Black QB’s is that the blame can be easily placed on them instead of addressing the real issues, and frauds like Reid can survive off of their athletic abilities when the play-calling breaks down, but blame them when things go south.

I hate to bring this up but it’s true. The same guys who are pumping up Foles claimed Kolb with the quick release and heady game would be an improvement over McNabb. He have been proven to be a damn bum, yet the same guys will not admit their assessments were false.

Now, we’re supposed to believe Foles is the answer?

The truth is that guys like Brady, Brees, Mannings, Rothlesbergers are the minority, in spite of race.

The truth is the majority of the league have white QB’s yet the majority of them turn out to be journeymen at best nowhere near the names aforementioned, and that Black QB’s are easily scapegoated when things go wrong.

Here’s a perfect example.

Who would you rather have?

Carson Palmer or Michael Vick?

Now, the same guys who think Foles is the answer will say Palmer, even though he have not accomplished 1/100th of what Vick have accomplished in the same league…..and Vick was in jail for 2 years.

The reality is that it takes more than a QB to win it all and with color aside, if Coughlin would have been coaching the same teams in Reid’s earlier years with Mcnabb at the helm …we would have been probably sitting on 2 to 3 Superbowls right now.

Be careful what you ask for.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 7, 2012 11:27 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Preach songs, preach!

jakedog
jakedog
December 6, 2012 8:53 pm

The fact that he hoped the team tanked is of no moment, the enlightened fan realizes that in order to move forward sometimes you need to step backwards. Peace to all, merry Christmas

daggolden
daggolden
December 6, 2012 9:01 pm

I tell you what I do know. I have never heard any of those garbage white QBs be told they cant read a defense. But when it comes to the black QBs thats the first thing out of fans mouths. He cant read a defense. comical. Whens the last time Ryan Fitzpatrick was told he cant read a defense? How about Matt Cassell can he read a f^&king defense? He sucks. Im watching Carson Palmer right now and laughing my ass off. He just threw a int in end zone. Dont look like he can read a defense eithier.

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 6, 2012 9:15 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Those that you mention just HAVE NO TALENT! They suck. Their deficiency is that they blow! Vick has more talent and balls than any of them! He just doesn’t see the game very well. It’s simple
And anyone on here that says 5 couldn’t read a defense is a blatant racist! I agree with that. Take each qb at his merit 5 was great, smart and a winner