• November 29, 2022

Vick Needs To Stop Talking To The Media

MichaelVick11When failing at a job, the company fires such an employee and a replacement is found.  In the case of Michael Vick, his boss was let go, and the company owner orchestrated a pay reduction for Michael to stay working for the Eagles.  Serious changes were made from a highly profitable franchise; topped off with a coach putting on the NFL headset for the very first time. A rookie coach and the start of a new era; with Vick still believing he’s the leader and starter for this football team.

You can’t stay healthy, you have regressed in speed and play making has reduced by a large margin.  You are not accurate, turn the ball over and struggle with making the audible call at the line of scrimmage.  These are requirement to be the starter of an NFL team, to earn the right to have the majority of practice snaps at OTA’s.  Essentially your current boss, Coach Chip Kelly owes you nothing.  He inherited a roster of players, added and subtracted some names and is now piecing together a team.  The attributes he looks for in his quarterback, you lack most of them.  Your athletic ability is appealing to him.  This will quickly fade when a fumble or interception in the red-zone ends a scoring drive.

Kelly cares about winning and not about veterans starting positions simply due to years spent in the league.  The quarterback is no different and the philosophy remains the same.   Roster spots will be earned through” open competition.”  Why should someone new to the NFL start players based off the talent evaluation of a man who is no longer part of the organization?

It would appear as though Andy Reid’s kept Michael Vick in check with speaking about his “true feelings.”  Michael was thankful for Reid giving him a second chance to play football.  Respect was formed as the pieces of his life began forming together again.  Vick never once thought or acted like he was better than Reid.  I have already witnessed frustration in Vick’s body language and word choice just in OTA’s which was not prevalent when Reid was the coach.  I honestly believe Vick expected Kelly to give him the job until there became a reason for it to be taken away.

Hey Michael, your resume over the last two years has been mediocre, and the man you now answer to; has the job of putting the best talent on the football field.   Beating Shady McCoy in a 40 yard dash is cool and all, but try using some of that blazing speed to avoid taking all of those unnecessary bone jarring hits.  Spend less time voicing what is troubling you, and let your actions on the football field speak to why #7 should be the starting quarterback.

Jeff Kolsky

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The Silencer10
The Silencer10
June 7, 2013 12:51 pm

Lol mike Vick is done!

paulman
paulman
June 7, 2013 1:37 pm

Spot on Jeff and great article,
My entire premise for new Coach Kelly is why even go thru these distractions in Year 1 of his Tenure.. Maybe they win 1-2 more games, who knows.
But this Vick besides being a mediocre and bottom half QB in the NFL in 2013 is of worth these distractions of forging a new Era of Eagle Football
And if Vick doesn’t shut up and jest start playing, he will be gone earlier that I expected (which is August 1st by my Calender) too many things going o. To be excited and building g about for this new staff and era of Eagles Football and worrying about Vick’s feelings is the least of Chip Kelky’s concerns in his first year..

tariq1
tariq1
June 7, 2013 2:14 pm

Once again we see a poor and article on Mike Vick! As a proud a athlete who is clearly the best Qb on the team he is supposed to wasn’t more reps. He shares the obvious and suddenly he is the bad guy. The new guy owes out to the team to play the best players, there is no reasonable question with the read option offense who the best qb on the team. Vick has the right to feel the way he does, he is not and the media and Vick haters groans are simply foolish

i am a tool.

Xevious
Xevious
June 7, 2013 3:21 pm
Reply to  tariq1

In other news the Moon is made of Cheese, Big foot was arrested, and the Lochness monster filed for sanctuary status in Canada after being “abused” by an family member in the Loch. The monster hopes to stay with Her Cousin Ogopogo In British Columbia. Finally In a statement made by Santa Claus Famous for being hit by Snowballs In Philadalphia, The Jolly old Elf Backed up a statement made by tariq1 on Gcobb.com saying ” Mike Vick Is clearly the best QB on the team” He also added both He and the Easter Bunny Got Vicks Back and all the haters are being “Foolish”. This reporter for one has a hard time believing Santa really believes the Stuff he is shovelin :D.

DMAN
DMAN
June 7, 2013 7:17 pm
Reply to  Xevious

Lol good one big X

DCar
DCar
June 8, 2013 12:47 am
Reply to  Xevious

BWAHAHAHA!!! X, that’s the funniest post of the year! XD

jakedog
jakedog
June 7, 2013 2:38 pm

Vick knows he’s beaten out, so he’s in desperation mode, not smart to call out the head coach, especially a new coach looking to find his guys, but this is emblematic of his poor decisions over an entire career, both on and off the field, but this one is probably the death knell, good bye michael vick

goforit
goforit
June 7, 2013 2:42 pm

It’s over….

Don’t go away mad…..just go away…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 3:14 pm

I just LOVE how he thinks he’s saying one thing when in reality its exactly the opposite:

“I have continued to be a professional and put feelings and emotions to the side.”

Except right now when they’re not to the side, they’re right out in the open. I’m announcing to the world I’m frustrated – but by doing that I’m keeping my emotions ‘to the side’

“We had a lot of deeper throws last year, which required more time,” Vick said. “It’s just a big difference. Not to say there was anything wrong with the west coast system, I loved it.

Not to say there’s anything wrong with the west coast system – except that I just said there was something wrong with the west-coast system”

I really wonder if he’s even aware that he actually says the exact opposite of what he thinks he’s saying.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 3:15 pm

He’ll be talking to the Saskatchewan media soon enough.

Xevious
Xevious
June 7, 2013 3:23 pm

with ogopogo

DCar
DCar
June 8, 2013 12:49 am
Reply to  Xevious

LOOOOOOOL!!!!!!

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 7, 2013 4:45 pm

Y’all really believe he won’t be the starter !…..LMAO

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 7, 2013 5:01 pm

LMAO, clowns really looking into this like it means something. Vick was named the starter when Chip Kelly was hired. He just hasn’t let anyone know yet.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 7, 2013 5:34 pm
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

See that is where YOU and VICK are WRONG. Vick getting resigned to a very cut-able contract might have said to him he was the starter but the competition is REAL. For the 1st time in a long time Vick actually has to earn it and he is not Head and shoulders above the younger guys and it’s sinking in that he wasted his talent and youth in ATL by not applying himself! You can not get it back Time stops for no man!

Turk
Turk
June 7, 2013 5:50 pm

Like I said before why in the hell is this dude still on the team Vick should of been gone when Reid left. Out with the old in with the new Vick is a middle of the road 33 year old QB this team is young with 2 young QB’s. Foles and Barkley should be battling for the starting job if Vick is still on this team when game 1 rolls around I’m gonna be very disappointed!!!

Turk
Turk
June 7, 2013 5:56 pm

Vick was never made the starter plus everything Chip has said he’s done the best players will play and right now Foles is the better player.

DMAN
DMAN
June 7, 2013 7:27 pm

The ones to blame here are Mr. Jeffery Lurie, Howie Roseman and Chip Kelly for entertaining the thought of bringing back Vick. Now we have to deal with this circus act BS. They never should have kept him in the first place. So, I blame the organization. It’s time to let go of the past and move on already

Turk
Turk
June 7, 2013 8:45 pm

Thanks DMAN i needed to hear that we on the same page on this topic!

tariq1
tariq1
June 7, 2013 9:59 pm

LOL…Foles hasn’t proved anything…yet everyone acts as if he has proven to be the real deal! Stop it! We couldn’t get a fourth round pick for him…if he was so much better than Vick…what we draft Barkley for!
The problem is that you Vick-haters are so blinded by their irrational dislike of Vick you cant think in straight football terms…Kelly is not Andy Reid…he likes to run the ball…his QB is not going to get beat to a pulp….Vick is going to flourish under Kelly…he just needs to stay patient…do what he is doing and he will be find!

E-money
E-money
June 7, 2013 10:14 pm

Vick is a knucklehead, every time he opens his mouth something stupid comes out. Coach Kelly said it was going to be an open competition, so he’s basically questioning his new bosses decision. He should be smart enough to realize that he will be the starter if he shuts his mouth and does better than the other 2 quarterbacks. I don’t think the Eagles will keep Vick as backup if he doesn’t win the starter job. He should just keep quiet and be a pro and win the job and realize he’s going to either start or get waived.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 10:19 pm

“what we draft Barkley for!”
Because every team needs 2 qbs. All the better if they are the same style. Foles and Barkley are the 1 and 2 next season.

“his QB is not going to get beat to a pulp”
Oregon started 11 QBs in 6 12 game seasons at Oregon. He will not run the read option o in Philly.

“Vick is going to flourish under Kelly”
Vick will not be on the team come week 1

“do what he is doing and he will be find!”
He’s at least 20% lower than Foles completing passes this spring. He has multiple ints. He’s bouncing balls off the stationary net things. He’s being scolded by the coach on how he holds the ball. He’s whining.

Do what he’s doing and his agent will be calling the BC Lions by the end of the month.

Have fun rooting for your hero wherever he is this coming year Tariq….I can get you a good line on any CFL gear if you’d like.

DMAN
DMAN
June 7, 2013 10:23 pm

For the record I’m not a “Vick hater” I just don’t think he is a very good QB that’s all. And I understand they say Vick will flourish in Kelly’s offense, but that is pure speculation. Who knows how Vick will play in this new system. And I’m not saying Foles is any better than Vick, but I’d rather roll the dice with someone that might be our future. Vick is not our future. Just my opinion

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 11:18 pm

What do you feel about the QB battle?

“The only thing that’s in my control is what I do on the field,” said Foles, “What is me worrying about where I am in the pecking order really matter? I don’t go to sleep at night, sweating, wondering where I am. What I can do is work hard, come out on the field and be a leader to these guys , execute the plays and make the guys around me better. And at the end of the day I did my job on the field. That’s all I can do and that’s how I approach the game.”

What do you think of the QB battle?

I mean it’s tough,” said Vick. “I feel like I have to be a professional and put my commitments and emotions to the side, and just continue to work better. But it’s hard. I would be lying if I said it wasn’t, but that’s just what I have to deal with.”

Done and done.

Xevious
Xevious
June 8, 2013 12:02 am

Nice post Vinnie Spot on my friend. I just wish people could accept the facts and reality of the situation. Deluding ones self won’t change the fact it’s over for #7.

DMAN
DMAN
June 8, 2013 1:46 am

Couldn’t have said it any better Vinnie

Turk
Turk
June 8, 2013 12:10 am

Vick doesn’t need to be on this teal plain and simple it’s time to turn the page on NO.7

DCar
DCar
June 8, 2013 12:55 am

NAH NAH NAH NAH…. NAH NAH NAH NAH…. HEY HEY HEY….
YOU SUCK!!!! Have fun as BU in Jacksonville! Just STFU & beat it, loser!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 8, 2013 9:58 am

The longer this goes the more locker room division there will be because Vick will not sit back and be a good soldier. He has made that clear. If I were Chip I would Cut / Trade Vick now and give him his wish. We have enough players with Foles, Barkley. I believe carrying more than 2 QB’s is nonsense when you are limited to 53 players. If you need your 3rd QB your screwed for the year anyhow. Practice squad GJ Kinne or get another body to PS.

The Silencer10
The Silencer10
June 8, 2013 11:38 am

Again this shows how poor of a teammate Vick is. It’s all about him, why stir any kind of controversy up before training camp. This a fragile team in its first year with new coaches and players. And that’s the problem with Vick as it always been. So worried about what it says on paper, and titles, and I’m a starter bla bla. It’s all ego. And I hope his ass winds up cut.

The Silencer10
The Silencer10
June 8, 2013 11:42 am

What I think honestly happened, was Kelly was intrigued with Vicks speed prior to OTAs. Then all the OTAs came and realized that Vick is stupid, can’t diagnose simple routes and defenses in shorts. And his fascination with him went away. Foles will be our starter, the read option is a temporary gimmick like the wildcat, and Vick will be outta here. Foles, Barkley, n Dixon..

The Silencer10
The Silencer10
June 8, 2013 11:51 am

Tariq ur the one who is blinded!! Vick hasn’t accomplished anything in 10 years. Why would anyone think he will now? Be real, don’t go full dee dee dee.. Foles proved last year in his short time, he can make any throw, get rid of the ball fast, throw open a receiver, and read defenses and make necessary adjustments. Vick cannot, he holds onto the ball , he needs wrs to be completely open before he throws it, he approaches the line and calls the play . He doesn’t go over the D, there coverages, he can’t adjust the line to accommodate the blitz. HE F U K N S U X, get it through the thick skull. He’s a damn scrub. He thinks he can be superman with his feet, when in fact I saw him getting caught from behind be. Dline men last year. Washed up. Scrub. Egotistical asshole who I hope brakes his leg the first contact he sees.

BigE
BigE
June 8, 2013 2:33 pm

Bullshit walks. Action on the field talks. After all these years in the league what
has Vick improved on? If Foles is getting half the reps doesn’t that say something about Vick?

Butch007
Butch007
June 8, 2013 2:36 pm

Vick, basically wants to avoid having to play hard in summer camp and possibly get injured and lose his starting job that way. Yeah, the offensive line sucked last year, but he’s not getting a pass.

…Tough titty. Strap up and get ready for the ride or get out Mike.

If he keeps flapping his trap he’s going to get labeled a locker room cancer. I doubt very seriously Kelly is going to want to deal with a divided locker room.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 8, 2013 7:55 pm

Kelly should have said I resigned Vick to be the starter
But if Foles or Barkley plays better in the training camp
And preseason then the job will be theirs…or my guy is xyz
The best players will be on the field come opening
Day
The locker room will be divided with Vick players
Foles players and possibly even Barkley players
He agreed to bring him back for a reason..he himself
said his play was a byproduct of the coaches and the
Oline…what Kelly is doing now is a rookie coach mistake
Everyone is talking how Mike is the reason for the circus
Because He said he wants a starter named…you should too
You should want whoever you are rooting for to succeed to have
As many reps as possible..so when the reg season comes
That player is as prepared as possible.. Of the player you want
To start starts and performed poorly due to lack of reps what
Will be your argument or excuse then ?

jakedog
jakedog
June 8, 2013 9:21 pm

Gotta, you are dumber than Vick if that’s possible, lmao

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
June 8, 2013 10:24 pm

The last time Vick had a good season he was the backup throughout training camp and preseason. So what’s the difference?

BigE
BigE
June 8, 2013 10:43 pm

The guy can’t even slide feet first. How pathetic is that? 10 years and still can’t slide. Who does this guy think he is fooling? He should be running track and throwing the javelin.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 9, 2013 12:46 am
Reply to  BigE

Javelin. $$ Gold medal guaranteed.

frankdialogue
June 9, 2013 10:53 pm

Michael Vick is a backup QB at this point in his career, or, as some posters have noted, a possible starter for a Canadian League team that need some box office.

In 2010, his most successful season with the Birds, he was a backup, coming in when Kevin Kolb got hurt…As starter in 2011 & 12, he was middle of the road type QB, or less.

Vick’s main problem is money, and I still don’t know whether he is getting or taking good advice about finances…He is with the Eagles because of whatever money they paid him up front.

He is in no way the Eagles future, so why play charades?

As a solid backup, who doesn’t flap his mouth, he can still earn, say, $3-5 million over the next couple of years.

This is just common sense.

ChuckRob
ChuckRob
June 10, 2013 10:31 am

Yep I believe Mike needs to stop talking to the media too… BECAUSE THEY ARE IDIOTS, and the power of the pen can sway small minded people to believe that nonsense they write or type… Mike let your play on the field do the talking. Internet Thugs, you’ve got to love’em…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 10, 2013 11:25 am
Reply to  ChuckRob

“Mike let your play on the field do the talking”

In that sense he hasn’t had much to say over the past decade.

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 11:41 am

THE LEGEND MIKE VICK “PUTS BUTTS IN SEATS”

The Philadelphia Eagles, a month after single-game tickets went on sale, still have tickets left for most of their regular-season home games.

As of this morning, only the Oct. 20 game against the Dallas Cowboys was completely sold out – not even standing room tickets available – according to a check of Ticketmaster.com.

Only single seats and standing room were left for two other games, the Sept. 5 home opener against the San Diego Chargers, and the Oct. 27 matchup with division rival New York Giants.

It was still possible, though, to get three seats together to see ex-head coach Andy Reid’s return on Sept. 19 with the Kansas City Chiefs, or the Nov. 17 game against Washington Redskins, another NFC East foe.

Four seats together were doable in all three December games: Dec. 1 against the Arizona Cardinals, Dec. 8 against the Detroit Lions, and Dec. 22 against the Chicago Bears.

In previous years, for at least a decade, the Eagles have sold out in a single day.

The Eagles declined to comment on possible reasons.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 10, 2013 11:45 am
Reply to  mhenski

Once again…using information to make points that don’t exist.

M. Vick isn’t your starting QB. Neither is Nick Foles. The team doesn’t have one. AND has a new coach and coming off a 4-12 season. SO gosh a team with no QB, a new coach and losing season is not selling seats. Whodathunkit.

I’m sure you can find a non-scientific poll to back that up too.

But yeah…way NOT to make a point.

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 11:57 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

oh hi TS. can you offer any proof how you arrived at your point that vick puts butts in seats?

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 10, 2013 1:05 pm
Reply to  mhenski

You learn the difference between a scientific based and non-scientific based poll yet?

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 2:10 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

U should teach mike how to talk in interviews.

Step 1 never answer a question with a direct answer
Step 2 always answer a question with a question
Step 3 (mike already knows this though) never be accountable and admit mistakes

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 10, 2013 12:51 pm

Hey TS….are you SharelJohnson over on that other blog site.

I was reading the comments section there and realized that was you (I think it is anyway).

Wow. That’s a whole lot of “defend Mike Vick forever” work you do. Are you part of his publicist team. Damage control, positive spin stuff and all that.

“cause you really should be getting paid for all the hard work you put in……

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 10, 2013 1:04 pm

Funny – ’cause they have a BS stat artist over there and it must be you.

“Wow. That’s a whole lot of “defend Mike Vick forever”

LOL. Actually it’s a whole lot of “Mike Vick Sucks Forever” you and your crew spend time on. My initial comment was on how dumb the article was – somehow Mike Vick haters came out in droves and made it about M. Vick. not the dumb article.

Similar to what happens here. You mention the sky is blue and here you mhenski and some others come Mike Vick Sucks.

LOL. How much you getting paid to post your BS stats and hold Foles Jock strap?

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
June 10, 2013 1:13 pm

Vinnie,
There’s a few people on here who post their Vick love on multiple websites. It seems like every time I read a negative article about Vick I go to the comments section and find a comment by Dag~ rebutting the author.

It’s just amazing – with all the classy players/people in the NFL why people would have so much love for such a marginal player/person beats the hell out of me.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 10, 2013 2:50 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Y. He obviously represents something that people feel they need to defend so vehemently/emotionally. You are absolutely correct though, there so many other players (not just in NFL – on the Eagles) that are worthy of the undying loyalty.

And I love the ridiculous idea that I (we) slag only Vick. Believe you me…if we were rolling out Carson Palmer or some other 10 year do nothing slug, I’d be just as venemous.

paulman
paulman
June 10, 2013 1:27 pm

The Eagles have been Selling out the Linc & the Vet for 20 plus years ..
Vick or no other single Eagle Player puts Fans in the Seats.. The Fans will be out in Force regardless of who wears the Eagles Jersey..

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 2:13 pm
Reply to  paulman

Not according to tsjohnson who claims Vick puts butts in seats

paulman
paulman
June 10, 2013 2:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Wonder when Vick gets released,if TSJohnson will follow him to his next City..

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 10, 2013 3:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

I was an Eagles fan before Vick showed up, will be an Eagles fan after – unlike some of you who will cry, whine, of find a new team should Vick be named the starter again.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 10, 2013 6:38 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Don’t bother TS. It isn’t worth the effort. Training camp will be here in no time.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 10, 2013 3:01 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Learn how polling works yet Mhenski?

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 4:40 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Hi Tranny, I have no clue how polls work. please tell me.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 10, 2013 8:12 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Professional Social Worker here and we use polls all the time (surveys actually but same thing) and…

Scientific Polls are often a joke as Data is always subject to a degree of Bias. Very often polls misrepresent data but if you look deeper you can find the problem. (Margin of error, standard deviations…)

Often a poll of say Philly sports fans on a Philly sports site -will yield a high degree of accuracy about how Philly sport fans feel about Philly sports vs say a national poll about how Philly Fans feel. It all depends on the who, what, where, when and why. It also depends on how you word the question for instance.

Who do you think WILL start for the eagles this season- a. 7 b. 9 …..
Vs
Who do you think Should start for the eagles this season….

These are not the same question!

peace112
peace112
June 10, 2013 2:25 pm

What Vick really needs to do and say is the same thing Carey Williams said and keep it movin….

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 10, 2013 8:16 pm
Reply to  peace112

Yeah…

I think we all realize that these players are all mercenaries and truly don’t have any connection to the city (with a very few exceptions) nor care what fans think.

HOWEVER

A player should NEVER tell that much truth. Fans pay their salary through paying for tix, merch, tv…. don’t burst the bubble!

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
June 10, 2013 10:40 pm

Wow real stand up guy calling TS a tranny. I swear mhenski you are a class a piece of shit. Must be how easily she’s been schooling your punk-ass.

mhenski
mhenski
June 10, 2013 11:28 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

oh i thought that was common knowledge the tranny thing. you post a pic of urseld looking like a man but u wear earings. then ur name is TS which if you google…

but in other news yep I’ve been completely schooled. Ts has totally proven that mike puts butts in seats and how has ts proven it after being asked 50+ times? by asking if others can prove it wrong and by asking questions. TS also schooled me by teaching me that a poll of 10,000 people means nothing even when 80% vote the same way.

it’s been a total schooling and ts has enlightened me, made me smarter and I feel like I understand the eages, polls, sports, quarterbacks, science, the economics of the eagles business and marketing and I think I am beginning to uncover a conspiracy by the eagles to put buts in seats rather than winning football games.

I’m also very blessed TS has taught me how to explain, articulate and argue my points that I make and to always provide explanations and supporting documentation and when all else fails and someone wants real proof just tell because TS told me.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2013 4:40 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Ahh…see you never learned how polling works.

It’s okay. Everyone can’t be intelligent or simply smart for that matter.

Most people are average so you have nothing to feel bad about.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2013 4:38 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

LOL.

Thanx you’re a stand-up dude. But I need no defending from Mhenski –

1. He argues points vehemently that he is incapable of backing and tries to use evidence that doesn’t even back what he’s saying.
2. I guess he doesn’t know women who have short hair. I rock a cesar.
3. He has already proven on multiple times not to be too bright – so I guess see how Tranny was the best insult he could come up with.

It’s cool. I assure you my femininity has never been in question. lol

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
June 10, 2013 10:44 pm

As to the point of this lame-ass article what would the media report if he refused to speak to them? Or if he spoke in code or was obviously shading responses to minimize backlash? They would bitch and complain about that as well.

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 5:51 am

Just had a revelation. I was sitting here getting ready for work and reading different sites of people bashing Vick and Foles. Arguing over who is gonna start. You know what all 3 QBs are gonna play, all 3 are gonna suck. We are arguing over nothing. That’s probably the reality of it all. lol

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 6:00 am
Reply to  daggolden

In all reality were the fools, were the ones left to suffer. Spending our time debating over our beloved Eagles At the end of the day like Carey Williams said “he could care less what the fans think”. That’s all the players opinion. I mean who really are the dumb ones?

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 11, 2013 8:41 am
Reply to  daggolden

Amen to that. We are arguing over dreck.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 11, 2013 6:58 am

Your right Dag, I tried to make that point before, professional athletes only really value what their peers think and half of them probably don’t care what their peers think.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 11, 2013 8:40 am

I hope the Eagles cut Vick.

Simply because I’m tired of the same old lame ass arguments.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 11, 2013 8:44 am
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

It should be because you’re tired of the same old lame ass fumbles, interceptions, low comp% and general shitty play.

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 10:15 am

Vinnie who are we talking about? Vick or Foles. Because honestly I saw that from both QBs last year. Im sorry if I missed Tom Brady last year.f

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 11, 2013 12:48 pm
Reply to  daggolden

We’re talking about the guy who’s been doing it for a decade+.

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 4:05 pm

Yes I understand. Im talking about the guy who did it for 7 games and sucked.

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 4:07 pm

Im talking about the floppy haired, weak armed, 5 yard passer, cement legged, turnover machine who was on IR in 7 games. I don’t need to see anymore.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2013 4:46 pm
Reply to  daggolden

And see this is why I have a problem with Foles fans.

If you don’t like Vick that’s one thing. I won’t argue that – there is legitimate critiques to be made there.

But Foles has done NOTHING to warrant the love. It’s just that he’s Not Vick that seems to make him gold in folks eyes.

BUT if your complaints against Vick are that he’s a turnover, injury prone QB with a low completion percentage – wouldn’t that mean you don’t like Foles either?

I mean come on – Don’t like Vick (fine), but acting like Foles is the next coming of Manning is laughable at best.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 11, 2013 8:16 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

At this point you two are just being dumb for the sake of being dumb I think.

Vick first 6 starts:
75 of 139 (54%) for 968 yrds (6.9yrds.att) 5tds 3 ints 2 wins 4 losses 116pts (19/game)
Did I mention he had 5 other appearances to get his feet wet before his first starts?

Foles first 6 starts
139 of 233 (60%) for 1480 yrds (6.4yrds/att) 5tds 4 ints 1 win 5 losses 117 points (19/game) He had a half of one game to get his feet wet before his first start.

I bet TS you weren’t announcing that “Vick has done NOTHING to warrant the love” after his first 6 starts – like you’re screaming with Foles.

In fact I bet the 2 of you were rallying on about how Vick was a savior, and how he was going to change the game yada yada.

All QBs are turnover prone when they are young. The difference is many get better. Vick did not.

BTW – why is acting like Foles (or any rookie) is the next Manning laughable? He may, or may not be. I do not know.

You shouldn’t know either…….yet you are so willing to write off a rookie after 6 games.

Why? Why is Vick the only answer for you clowns?

Why so willing to dismiss a kid after 6 games, but so determined to hit up every message board in Philly touting a decade long loser?

Manning first 6 starts:
111 of 210 (53%) 1264 yrds (6 yrds/att) 6tds 14 ints 1 win 5 losses 81 pts 13.5/game)

Daggolden….would have cut Manning too.

In fact, the NFL should appoint Daggolden as the NFLs QBs czar. No QB would ever play more than 6 games because they would all suck (except vick) and he’d call them all “weak-armed” (cept vick) turnover machines (cept vick – the turnovers are andy reid’s playcalling fault)

mhenski
mhenski
June 11, 2013 9:39 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

vinnie either certain folk are punking you or they’re just mentally challenged. either way its safe to say there will be no enlightenment for them as these folk words are law and set it stone.

sometimes some folk see reality out of the realm of real reality and there is no helping them…

daggolden
daggolden
June 11, 2013 9:01 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Awww Vinnie the American wanna be has the audacity to say Nick the unatlhetic wannabe, turnover macine. Injury prone Foles in the same breath as wanna top QBs of all time Peyton Manning. Lmao.. Ok minny Vinny Foles is best QB ever. He may be better tham Montana lol cause you said so. He sucks.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2013 10:46 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Vinnie posts stats incessantly ’cause he’s incapable of making coherent arguments otherwise. It’s really easy to post numbers (with no context) then it is to actually make and defend a coherent, legitimate argument.

He’s just humorous at this point.

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2013 10:11 am

**NFL News**
–Tim Tebow signs with the Patriots
–Buffalo Bills release QB Tavaris Jackson
— Ravens release All-Pro FB Vontae Leach as the FB Position is becoming more obsolete in today’s NFL Pass-Happy Game..
— Bears release former Temple Player FB/TE Evan Rodruiquez after his 2nd Arrest with Alcohol Issues within the last 2 months..

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 11, 2013 4:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

I bet Bellechick sees if he can switch Tebow to another position. Though the Jets said that he didn’t have the necessary skills to make a swiich to TE or Fullback.

paulman
paulman
June 11, 2013 5:20 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

No doubt about that, Tebow will not be playing any QB for Pats have 3rd Year promising QB Ryan Mallett.. Pats with Belecheck/Josh McDaniels will use him as 2nd TE (remember Gronk is iffy with his back surgery) FB/HB and probably have a Wildcat Package in for him for short-yardage/red-zone situations but I have a hard time believing they would take the ball out of Brady’s hands and into Tebow’s for any QB/Passing Situations..

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
June 11, 2013 12:37 pm

I see that Dennis Dixon predicted that Chip Kelly wont choose a starting quarterback until September 5th.

“It will be as long as you imagine. That’s what Chip Kelly is,” Dixon said. “He keeps everyone on their toes. As an athlete, you have to be ready. Whenever your name is called, you have to be ready.”

I’m not sure if Dixon knows Kelly well enough to make that prediction, but I bet Vick will do quite a bit of talking by September. So, expect plenty more articles that stir controversy from GCobb…

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 11, 2013 8:10 pm

Maybe or perhaps Howie will call and remind Vick that there are several million reasons he should get his mind right and shut the front door.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 11, 2013 8:11 pm

Of course I think Vick will still say stupid things just other stupid things!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 12, 2013 2:02 am

TS Johnson in kindergarten.

Teacher: Today children we will talk about the words “SAME” and “DIFFERENT”. Can anyone tell me something about these words?

TS: SAME and DIFFERENT are the SAME!

Teacher: Well, that’s not exactly the correct TS. SAME means alike, wile DIFFERENT means not alike.

TS: But I think DIFFERENT means SAME because SAME and DIFFERENT are the same.

Teacher: Let me explain. There are 2 football players. One is a 10 year vet-er-an. That means he has played a loooooooong time in the NFL. The other is a rook-kie. That means he’s never played in the NFL. You see, they’re not the SAME, they are DIFFERENT.”

TS: “They are both quarterbacks so they are the same and they should do the same things and if they do the same things they are the same”

Teacher: “Well not exactly TS. You see the vet-er-an has played over a hundred games. He’s seen every defense the NFL has to offer. He’s been in all kinds of crazy and difficult situations in the NFL. ALso, he’s been on his team for many years. He knows all the plays and has practiced them hundreds of times. Because he’s been on the team for so long, he’s been able to throw to his teammates thousands of times in practice, so he knows their timing. The vet-er-an has ex-per-ie-ence, and experience is very very important.

The rookie has no experience. In fact, he was just a 3rd round rookie and no one thought he’d turn out to be more than a back-up. He has no experience at all, and the coach really never let him practice very much with his teammates, so he couldn’t have been expected to play as well as the veteran.

You see TS…those quarterbacks were DIFFERENT”

TS: “But they went out and played the SAME. So they are the SAME. Same. Same! SAME!!!

Teacher: “Now now S, no need to get sooo excited. They were DIFFERENT, and because of all the experience, the vet-er-an should have been better than the rookie. But he wasn’t. Actually, the rook-kie was a little bit better than the vet-er-an.”

TS: “They were the SAME. They were both bad!

Teacher: Well, yes, one could say they were both bad, but because he had no experience, people expected the rookie to be bad. Most rookies are. What wasn’t expected, except by a very few smart people like Vinnietheevictor….”

TS: I don’t like him, he’s mean to my favourite player!”

Teacher: “….be that as it may TS, most people expect a rookie to be bad, and a veteran to be better, but that’s not the way it went”

TS: I think they are the SAME! Everyone should be treated the SAME!

Teacher: “Well, that’s not the way sports works TS…but don’t worry, most people found what the rookie did to be exicting. He did better than they expected and they were happy to see that….but not everyone was so happy but there were some fans, who like the veteran more than their team, who were upset that their favourite veteran was doing so poorly and was probably going to be cut the next year. So do you understand the difference between SAME and DIFFERENT now TS?

TS: “But I want them to be the SAME. I neeeeed them to be the SAME because if they are not the same then the vet-er-an will go away. And that makes me MAD!

Teacher: “sigh…..”

There….just for you…..no stats….yet pretty clearly encapsulates my argument against your pathetic line:
BUT if your complaints against Vick are that he’s a turnover, injury prone QB with a low completion percentage – wouldn’t that mean you don’t like Foles either?

Was that coherent enough for you?

I make legitimate points. And the legitimate point that a veteran should have wiped the floor with a rookie but didn’t is something you continually and completely ignore because if you were to actually admit to yourself that the vet should have been better than the kid and yet wasn’t, you’d have to admit to yourself that your hero is a POS QB who will never lead the Birds, or whatever team he finds himself on in September anywhere.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 12, 2013 7:36 am

LOL.

Awww Vinnie, now you can’t keep my name out your mouth. Writing who dissertations and ish. It’s sweet. I’m flattered.

You know you doing something write when grown men feel the need to pen whole books to you and you claim they don’t even like you.

It really is kindergarten all over again 🙂

larrwd
larrwd
June 12, 2013 4:28 am

Lets just see how vick plays this year and make a decision based on that.. Foles would probably benefit watching another year or 2 .. Personally, I think both quarterback can play. I also think barkley can play. I think dennis dixon cant play at all and they should have went after Josh Johnson.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 12, 2013 7:42 am
Reply to  larrwd

I think Chip’s system is going to be the star not who ever is under center (or shotgun). I think either of the guys can have success – the only issue is I see Foles as a more game manager type, but with a weak defense that might not translate into a lot of wins early ’till the team is more together.

The only real knock on Foles this early is I REALLY see them as seeing Barkley as the future, and Foles doesn’t make sense to use as a one year starter – I mean assuming he plays well he could just get Alex Smithed, but that would be wrong.

You start Vick this year – you know he’s gone next year and you can put in your guy with no problems. Whatever is up Chip’s sleeve it will be interesting to watch.

daggolden
daggolden
June 12, 2013 8:44 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Tsjohnson Foles skill set is more comparable to John Skelton than Alex Smith the #1 pick in draft. Big lumbering weak armed qbs. Alex Smith would say Nick who?

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 12, 2013 8:50 am
Reply to  daggolden

LOL.

Wasn’t comparing him to Alex Smith play style – just saying they could go the route of playing him for a year and then, even if he’s playing well, should he be injured (and let’s be real broken hand in 6 games he can be injured) and they put Barkley in and he looses the starting job to injury.

” Foles skill set is more comparable to John Skelton”

I’m not high on Foles skill set – but I think Kelly can make any QB “work” since I think his system is a little plug and play – buy into the system – do what I ask – you will succeed type thing.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 12, 2013 10:18 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Just to review:

Daggolden states: “Alex Smith would say Nick who”

Is this the same Alex Smith who over his first 6 games went
62 of 125 (50%) for 682 yrds (5.5 att) with 0 (that’s ZERO) TDs and 10 (TEN) interceptions?

That Alex Smith? The one that Foles annihilated over his first 6 starts?

Amazing how Alex Smith….got better.

Good thing Daggolden wasn’t the NFL QB tzar though, as Smith would have been cut after those first 6 games.

So willing to toss Foles aside as garbage after 6 games, because Smith was sooooo much better.

Daggolden, what is it like living in your world where everything you say is wrong?

daggolden
daggolden
June 12, 2013 6:00 am

On another note. Philly fans if you get a chance you MUST check out the documentary the “Doctor”. Even if you never saw him play let me tell you he was something to behold. The documentary was off the hook. My hat is off to you Julius Erving you made the city proud. Greatest sports ambassador to this city EVER.

daggolden
daggolden
June 12, 2013 6:15 am
Reply to  daggolden

The Doc was one of them rare superstars who nobody hated. No opposing fans hated him. Opposing fans hated Bird, Magic, MJ, Kobe, Montana, Gretzky etc. But not Doc. The only other player in my time that no opposing fan hated that I could think of is Barry Sanders.

paulman
paulman
June 12, 2013 9:33 am

Dr J, a True Legend who transcended the Sport of Basketball..
and Philly didn’t even get to see Dr J, while in his prime which occured while playing for the NJ Nets in the ABA, a Class Act on and off the Court and as “Cool as the other side of the Pillow” ..