• December 2, 2021

Notes From The Phillies’ 5-2 Loss To Chicago

Pittsburgh Pirates v Philadelphia PhilliesThe Philadelphia Phillies lost the second game of their series with Chicago, falling to the Cubs 5-2 on Wednesday night. their record drops to 51-62.

  • Cole Hamels had another pretty good start, going seven innings and allowing two runs. Hamels gave up six hits with no walks and struck out three.
  • Hamels finished the night with just 83 pitches. He could have gone even deeper into the game, but the team was forced to pinch-hit for him in the seventh inning when they were down by a run.
  • Kevin Frandsen started at second base and went 2-4.
  • Chase Utley entered the game as a pinch-hitter in the seventh inning, and tied the the game with an RBI single.
  • Domonic Brown hit his 25th homer of the year, a solo shot in the second inning.
  • Darin Ruf played first base and went 0-4 with two strikeouts.
  • Delmon Young got the start in right, and went 1-4.
  • John Mayberry hit his 19th double of the year and came around to score in the seventh.
  • Luis Garcia pitched a scoreless eighth inning, but fell apart in the ninth, allowing two runs.
  • Justin De Fratus came in to relieve Garcia, but gave up a run of his own before getting out of the inning.

Final Thoughts

I have a couple of serious grievances with tonight’s game. Why in the world was Cody Asche not in the starting lineup? Why was Darin Ruf not in the outfield? Why was Delmon Young in?

Asche just had his best offensive game last night, picking up a two-hit game. The point of the remainder of the season isn’t to win games, its to develop the young talent to try and help the team become competitive again next year.

Someone please explain to me why we’re still giving Delmon Young starts in right field at this point in the year. Honestly, its not as though Young’s presence offends me in the same way that Laynce Nix did, but Delmon Young has no future with this team.

Young should be on the bench, Darin Ruf should be getting starts everyday in the outfield, and Asche should be playing every night at third. If Ruf is going to make an impact on the team next year, its going to be as an outfielder. Ryan Howard is going to return and occupy first base, so Ruf needs all the work he can get out there.

Anything short of Ruf in the outfield and Asche at third every night is a wasted game at this point.

In other news, before the game, the Phillies announced that they have agreed to terms on a two-year contract extension with Chase Utley worth about $27 million.

The move comes as no surprise; the general consensus after the Phillies didn’t move Utley at the deadline was that they were going to re-sign him. I’ve said all along that I believe the Phillies should have traded him and then attempted to re-sign him over the winter, and I still stand by that belief.  The good news is that at least the Phillies didn’t commit to Utley for three years or more. Anything more than two years would have been complete and utter insanity, given the degenerative state of the second baseman’s knees.

Utley has proven this year that he can still play, but his knees are a ticking time bomb that could go off at any moment. Year to year, we enter Spring Training with no idea where he stands health wise, and this team is going to be living on a prayer that he’ll be able to repeat even the modest numbers that he’s put together in 2013.

However, on a positive note, at least with Chase we know that he’ll work his hardest to fight through whatever issues his body might have. This isn’t Andrew Bynum we’re dealing with here, this is a guy with heart that cares about his team.

 

Denny Basens

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  • In other news Paulman bet me $10 with proceeds going to charity that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years he changed the terms of the bet and basically said fuck you to cancer charity. Paulman you are a certified scumbag.

    The above will be copied and pasted after every post you make you classless lowlife

    • As I Stated, Re-Signing Chase Utley before Free-Agency Period does not reflect a “Market Value” for Utkey and the fact that the Phils were stupid enough to pay him $27 Million is their Problem and not a
      “True Market Value” ..
      To show that am a decent Person, I will donate $10 to a Charity of your choice, which one was it that you want me to Donate too

      • Paul you bet that chase wouldn’t get x amount of dollars when he Reups. The same day you made the bet it was reported everywhere including espn that the phillies were trying to resign him now.

        You are just being a total fraud and showing you have no integrity with that nonsense you posted trying to back after you already lost. I can just picture you going to Las Vegas and getting arrested because you bet on the chiefs, they didn’t cover and you demanded a refund because dexter mccluster got hurt.

        Anyways assuming which is a big assumption that you have an ounce if character and are gonna pay your losses you can give the $10 to children’s hospital of philadelphia. All you need to do is google donate chop to figure out what to do. I would expect you will furnish proof as well.

        • The market was set by Ian Kinsler with his deal that averages $12.5 per year who Chase is better than. Than you look at comparables:

          Uggla $13 mill
          Phillips $12 mill
          Weeks $10 mill
          Roberts $10 mill
          Pedroia $13.75

          next time assess the market before you make a bet, clown

          • Consider the source

  • Good analysis, not much I can add, except that the Phillies need a new voice in the dugout, one who won’t let the players do anything they want…I don’t care if it’s Sandberg or another young coach, just not Charlie because he’s lost the team.

    • The Phillies need a new EVERYTHING! Ownership, Front office, Scouts, Medical staff, Coaches, Manager, 90% of a roster, a minor league system, & a f^#@ING GM, that at the very least, knows how to act like a competent GM!

      • I agree with you completely. Someone has to come in and say WTF? Why can’t we develop any back end pitchers? Why does the GM keep giving out huge contracts? Why is our payroll so high, but we are no where near competing? Why the hell are Michael Young and Delmon Young in the lineup anymore?

        • bugs, I agree, & I honestly hate feeling the way I do, but Ruin 2morrow, has vampired all the love & energy I had for this team. Until this POS is gone, nothing will drastically change, or get better. But hey, look, now that Ruf & Asche are playing everyday, they’re playing well, & improving. Who-da-thunk-it? Those *MONSTER* signings, of the Young Brothers, from other Mothers, were awesome, weren’t they? Now M. Young cleared waivers, watch him still not get a decent prospect. YEY Ruin 2morrow! You’re the best! Worthless, clueless, arrogant, bumbling, inept, POS!

          • I here you man. Frustrating time. He has to get rid of the Youngs no matter what he gets, because Charlie will keep running them out because he is loyal to the vets. Think about what 50 games can do for these guys. BTW… HRs by Ruf and Asche today.

            • Yikes with the lineup today
              Frandsen, Ruiz, Utley, Brown. Nice speed at the top of the lineup. Haha.

              • I was just thinking the same thing. Bunch of lead @$$e$. BWAHAHAHA!!!! All we can hope for, continue progression by Ruf, Asche, Franco, Martin, Morgan, & Bidde, an offseason enima of the entire FO, coaching & medical staff, & the new GM can save this sinking ship. BTW, IMHO, Franco, & the kid Crawford they drafted this year, are going to be studs! Some guys pass the eye test. I saw Franco, a couple weeks ago, & he has the look & talent. Crawford is killing rookie ball. Hopefully they close out deals with the Cuban pitcher Gonzales & the 16 year old 3B/2B Encarnacion, & maybe we have something 2015-beyond?!?

  • The more that I think about the extension, the more that I like it. total reversal of how I felt before it happened. Is it a risk? Yes, but his performance this year basically has him as a top offensive 2B. Yes his defense has suffered, but I will take my lumps for the offensive production. He is the only core guy who has any plate discipline on the team which is sorely needed as well. I think that he is a natural in the 2 hole because of how much he gets on base. The problem is that they don’t have a #3 hitter.

    MLB has it at 25-30 mil which hopefully it is 25. At 12.5 per and at 2 years, he is still a very good trade option for another team if the Phils tank again next year or if other options develop.

    I think that this just gets lumped in with the other deals as a bad one even though I don’t think that it is that bad. I am not ignoring the risk involved because of his knees, but this is a 2 year deal and not 4-5.

    • bugs, the Utley deal is senseless, stupid, & inevitability will kill them, like the ill-advised Rollins re-signing. It’s only a matter of time, before he goes down. That collision last night gave me a heart attack. Just another mistake, to add to the ever growing list, on Ruin 2morrows resumé.

    • I agree with you bugs… I knew it when Utley trucked Navarro at home plate. Down 2 runs, 20 games under 500. I’d take that guy on my team any day. Is there a better second baseman available next year? I’d say no.

  • explains why reuben got zip for m young:

    Michael Young has passed through waivers and is now eligible to be traded to any major league team.
    But the veteran infielder has a full no-trade clause and the Phillies were unable to move him at the July 31 non-waiver deadline. Young seems likely to stay put.

    • Reuben has gotten Zip for M Young, L Nix, and now havs overpaid for Utley as he did for Rollins, Papelbon because he doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing..

      • he got zip for young and nix because no other mlb team wants them as indicated by the fact that they both cleared waivers. he overpaid for rollins and pappelbon sure but gave chase a fair extension

        chase is 3rd in mlb in hr, 1st in triples, 7th in WAR and middle of the pack everywhere else

        whens are you paying up?

        • I am contibuting $10 to my local Animal Shelter here in Boone,NC

          • whatever paulman. obviously you have no integrity and arent a man of your word. rather than donate to a childrens hospital lets give it to animals, rather than do what you said “loser pays the $10 to the charity of the winners choice” you will just donate it to some animal shelter. lmfao ok. you’re just a typical scumbag who writes checks they cant cash. i will troll every post you ever make on here again until you pay up and provide proof.

            i would totally love to spit in your face.

            if this was over $10 you owed me i would care less but you made it about charity then backed out and its a total scum bag move.

          • paul, you lost some cred. In all seriousness, mh, get over it, it’s a $10 bet, you made with a stranger, on a sports blog site. You are a bigger idiot, for thinking that would workout for you. Come on dude, they’re bigger problems to worry about. LOL!

            • like i said if it were coming into my pocket i would care less about $10 smacks but $10 charity smacks totally different ballgame. i will never post as henski again and after every paulman message i will post the following;

              Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.

              And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.

              I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.

              • Cripes, give it a rest. I love how you call people names all day long then question someone else’s integrity.

              • I just donated $50. It was simple and took 5 minutes. I typically donate to cure CF but thought this real worthy of course. Fraud man plays both sides of drafts, of players etc. he should be called fraud boy as he has yet to get a seat at the adult table.

              • Hey A-Hole HEnski..
                I Bet you that wehn UTley became a Free-Agent which he would not become until after the Season.. The Fact the Phils ovepaid while still currently under-contract makes this Bet Null & Void
                What is so hard to understand about this ..
                I stated and bet that Utley would not get $12.5+ Million as a “Free-Agent” in the Open Market which would occured after the Season was over which would have established a True Market Value.. Now that the Phils went ahead and signed him before Free-Agency, then Utley was never a “Free-Agent” .. So go ahead and cry for all I care..

              • like i said if it were coming into my pocket i would care less about $10 smacks but $10 charity smacks totally different ballgame. i will never post as henski again and after every paulman message i will post the following;

                Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.

                And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.

                I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.

              • really you piece of shit liar? “you bet me wehn UTley became a Free-Agent which he would not become until after the Season..
                What is so hard to understand about this ..
                I stated and bet that Utley would not get $12.5+ Million as a “Free-Agent” in the Open Market which would occured after the Season was over which would have established a True Market Value.. Now that the Phils went ahead and signed him before Free-Agency, then Utley was never a “Free-Agent” ..”

                THAT IS WHAT YOU BET YOU PIECE OF SHIT POOR LOSER OF A MAN LIVING IN A TENT IN NC LIKE A LOW LIFE LONER? IS THAT WHAT YOU BET?????????????? BECAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE THIS IS HOW THIS BET UNFOLDED

                PAUL
                I say keep Utley for the Season and let him finish his Contract out and try to make a Playoff push, for the NL is really struggling right now and the NL East is still up for grabs..
                Contrary to what many fans think, there is not much Trade Value for a 35 Year Old with bad knee’s as a 3-Month Rent a Player uless he were to sign an extension with his new Team and outside of the Dodgers, I don’t see any other Team willing to commit a 2-3 Year Deal to him with his helath issues
                I could see the Phils offering him a 2 Year – $15 Million Total loaded with incentives as far as games played,plate appearance’s etc,etc and if he’s not interested, then let him walk…

                ME
                lmfao. you are out of touch paul with trade value, and salary demands. chases next deal starts at 2 year 30 million and prob gets 3 years 40 mill. lmfao at 2 year 15 million

                PAULSCUM
                I bet you $10 (your’s or mine Donation to a “Local Charity”)
                Oakland A’s already have a good thing going and do not deviate for their BUsiness Model for a short-term Gain, they just have not in the past and believe they will not do so this Trade Deadline either

                My 2 Year Deal Scenario is what the Phils would Offer to make a token offer.. You guys are way overrating Utleys Value and Future $$$ potential
                He’s 35 for crying out load, has bum knee’s, and is liability defensively, .
                Now he would be smart to go to the AL where he can DH and probably extend his Career 2-3 Years but not at $15 MIllion + A Season..No way

                ME

                You bet me $10 that what?

                I wager often and play a lot of poker so $10 just wouldnt be worth my while, but if it were a $100+ I may think about it depending on the bet.

                If you are proposing a wager the A’s wont trade for him I wouldnt except because I dont think Reub will do anything with him as he said and also because there are a lot more teams out there besides the A’s. If we are talking wagering on Chase’s next deal and I get $11+ per season and you get $11- yea I will gladly accept that

                actually paul ill give you 12.5 and under and take 12.5 and over

                thats 5 million more per year than the 2 year 15 million you suggested he will get. bet?

                PAULSCUM
                I will accept,
                I am not a betting man for I am too cheap with my $$$, but I have no problem donating to a Charity of your Choice if I am to lose this Bet…

                ME
                donate how much to charity $10 or $ 100 ? i dont care its easy more for my charities. as an fyi your donation will be going to craig biggios sunshine kids or heathers fund ( a local cancer foundation ). i will give you my email address after i win.

                just confirm the bet size. i have over 12.5 average annual salary and you have under 12.5.

                PAULSCUM
                I am good with this Bet

                DONT SEE ANYTHING ABOUT FREE AGENCY YOU PIECE OF SHIT

    • And who’s fault is that? Neither should have been here to begin with. There was no reason for the 2nd year of Nix contract, & the Young trade, like I said when it happened, was stupid, because he clearly was on decline, & we already had Asche ready & Fransen deserving to play, by his play last year. But, that horse has no meat left on it’s bones to beat.

  • The dodgers would have paidore. Once again Paul you don’t get the market

    • Wrong HAC,
      Rueben Amaro doesn’t get the MArket and Continues to Overpay needlessly for Players like Rollins,Papelbon and now Utley just like he did with Polanco, Blanton,Oswalt, nd even Ibanez.. It’s doesn’t make a damn bit of differnece what these idiots want to pay their players, but when they use the excuse that they can afford to updgrade the Bullpen, or go out and get a corner OF and updgrade the Cather position because they have reached their limit “Team Payroll” wise to avoid paying the Luxury Tax, then that’s poor planing, poor fiscal contracts and poor overall Roster Management but we have seen this with all the Philly Sport Teams who probably have the worst GM”s Collectively of any large City…
      But who cares, keep buying over-priced tickets,$60 Shirts, $8 Beers…etc,etc

      • Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.

        And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.

        I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.

      • Dimwit your boy Dan uggla will make 13 million the next two years at 34 and 35… He is hitting 190, hit 220 last year and 233 the year before. What corner outfielder would you have gone after Paul? Which one…hamilton or upton? Take a look at their contracts and production and pick one. You say they over spend but don’t give alternatives

  • Not only dumb but can you imagine personally knowing the type of person that lies cheats and steals from sick children. Lowest scum there is.

    • Stop trying to martyr yourself on a blog sports site. If you really gave a $#!t about cancer & sick children, you wouldn’t be wasting unnecessary time & energy, trying to make yourself out to be Mother Teresa, & Paul out to be the anti- christ. Real people that do charities, & child sponsorship, do things on their own, unannounced, with no fanfare, credit, or attention. Look in the mirror, get a life, & STFU!!! Enough is enough already! Christ almighty!

      • get used to it or use that energy to convince that stupid lying cheating and stealing cunt paulscum to pay up. otherwise this will go on for a long time.

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