Do you believe the Riley Cooper saga is the biggest concern for the Eagles moving forward? How about who Chip eventually hands over the starting quarterback job too? Mix in uncertainties such as the starting wide receivers for this team and the health status of the offensive line and you would have plenty of storylines going into Friday’s preseason opener versus the New England Patriots. What if I told you that a much greater issue has me scrambling to find answers; and how I’m truly concerned the right personal is not on our current roster. Unless several players make tremendous leaps and bounds with their skill-set, our defense, especially the secondary is going to struggle stopping opposing offenses in all facets of the game.
Yesterday afternoon I had the opportunity to be at practice, to witness in person every player for the Philadelphia Eagles in addition to the New England Patriots. Now there was no tackling, and even the sounds of shoulder pads colliding with one another were rarely heard. Our star running back and elite left tackle were non-participants, so my focus immediately turned to the reps that Vick and Foles split. Once settled in, I snuck a peak to the reception that Riley Cooper received from both the Eagles and Patriots players; quickly realizing that it was just another day at the office for these professional football players. With different drills happening on multiple practice fields, something struck me, the constant distraction that I could not turn away from; it was the Eagles secondary.
No matter the jersey number and stitched name plate, they looked out of place and hopeless with stopping Tom Brady. Yes I know that we don’t play Tom Brady this season, but we do play the likes of Rodgers,RG3 and Peyton. We will be defending wide receivers like Dez Bryant, Calvin Johnson, Bowe, Marshall, Cruz and Fitzgerald and the three headed monster in Green Bay and Denver. Say what you want about Chip Kelly’s offense, even if we can score are we really going to be able to stop the opponent from scoring? With what I saw yesterday from our secondary, unless we are able to get constant pressure on the opposing quarterback with our blitzing and disguised formations, we are in for a long season.
Minus Boykin who although is small in size, showed good speed and positioning yesterday; the rest of the cornerbacks and safeties looked like their cleats were stuck in mud. Slow with their back pedaling, heads swiveling with attempts to dissect the offensive packages. Simply put, Brady made the secondary look silly out there. I saw double and triple coverage by the Eagles embarrassed by the pinpoint accuracy and quick release of Brady. I’m talking about veteran players for the Eagles, Allen, Fletcher and Coleman looking lost trying to prevent a player like Dobson who has yet to establish himself in the NFL. If it happened once I wouldn’t be as concerned, but this was a common theme for the day, the Eagles secondary looked really bad out there.
I’m trying to make sense but not too much from the practice I attended. The first preseason game returns the excitement of football to the Philadelphia fan. I typically focus on the second and third to gauge specific things I’m looking for from the players and coaches. I’m sure it will be a nice reward for these players who had plenty of smack-talk going during practice sessions this week with the Patriots to now get the opportunity to back it up with tackling.
With so many positions open for the taker; this first preseason game has more anticipation behind it then I can recall in recent memory. I have my list of players like Ertz, Polk, Momah and Wolfe that I’m really looking forward to watching. At the same time; I know with Chip that I need to be paying attention to every man who steps on that field, this is after all and “open competition.”
well…. if Mike Vick threw more TD’s… our Secondary would be better.
haha.. sorry, I couldnt resist. Here it is folks… the BIGGEST issue on your 2013/2014 eagles. They did NOT do enough to even begin to fix the secondary… not even close.
AT my count….. we are at least 1 cover corner and 1 FS away from being anything and THATS being very very generous. We could have landed a high profile stud at the safety position but… we did not. We could have paid him a HUGE signing bonus.. frontloading a deal that would have been the center piece of a new.. tough D… but no…. not this year.
Instead, we are banking on a guy who is KNOWN for giving up huge yards at CB, a rotation CB that lacks speed, a thumper with bad knees and a patriot 3rd stringer. Or…. roll the dice with our former 2nd round thud. Not pretty… not pretty… but thats ok….. lets talk about Mike Vick for the 100,000 time.
@Stevo Why do you people insist on blaming Vick for everything? If he was white would you do the same? Vick and Foles both had bad seasons last year cause of the Oline no qb in the league couldve played behind that line. I guess you people have a hard time getting that in your thick skinhead. Sure blame the black qb. Andy’s system had been flawed and predictable since Mcnabbs last game that was the REAL problem.
This entire qb competition is a joke. Vick is way better than Foles and when he starts all you Foles lovers can go and turn in your fan card. This offense was taylor made to fit to the strengths of Vick more so than Foles. Foles only looks good without pads, where have you been little man? have you been following reports from TC? Vick shouldve been getting all the reps.Im sure he would be far more ahead. Nobody wants to see Foles vs RG3, does that sound interesting? No. NFL fans want an RG3 vs Vick game for excitement and ratings. Vick is really gonna flourish in this offense and all of his punk ass racist redneck haters will eat their words. Mark it down little guy.
Here we go again with the racist crap. So because certain people on here that dislike Vick are racist? Cmon man did you not watch the same games we all watched last yr? Vick was horrible! Yes maybe this yr will be different under Kelly’s style of play. And I wish the best for Vick if he is named the starter. But let’s lay off the racial comments. Just makes you look like the racist bro
I’m black, and I wish the best for Vick, but I am on record with saying that Foles will be the one who will come out of this thing shining as the future to Chip Kelly’s success, and I am not a racist in any way.
I am black, and I had a Grandmother that was part white, and a Great grandmother that was part white, and a Great Great Grandmother that was white, although all my others parents were Black as Shaka, and I loved all of them.
Why don’t you guys who always scream race, and those who are strictly about defending the black race wake up, and grow up. Good people, aren’t just found in individual races, they are found among THE HUMAN RACE!!
GMCliff, is partial to that; a love for all humans regardless of race.
Thats not what this competition is about. Its about talent, and who is the best option for this team. It can’t be determined by skin color, but by overall play of the athlete. Why don’t you all stop this 1950’s bullshit?
That being said, I’m also on record as saying that Vick would win this job by game one, with Foles looked at as the future. I think Chip Kelly already sees it that way.
GGV… clearly you dont understand sarcasm. Try reading what I wrote and not just the first line.
I don’t think he understands much.
Good to know he does understand “excitement” and “ratings” and “matchups”
Doesn’t seem to care much about “wins”, something MV7 has had a hard time accumulating over the past 12 years.
And to the writer you have Chip and Lurie to think for continuing to hire horrible defensive coordinators when there are good candidates out there. After the whole Castillo debacle you would think Lurie wouldve learned by now. This defense will be the laughing stock of the league this year AGAIN. Bill Davis has done absolutely nothing in his coaching career. Nothing impressive at all.
Dear Lurie, GO HIRE A GOOD DC WITH A GOOD TRACK RECORD!
Why was this guy hired again? Please explain. Another stupid move was getting rid of DRC our best corner and one of the top CB’s in the league. Now we have nothing. Why is Nate Allen and Coleman still starting for this team? This defense will be a joke.The front office doesnt wanna win they only care about ticket pricing and merchandising.
To review: Kelly and Roseman have made nothing but bad decisions regarding the DC, personnel, Dbs etc. All they do is make bad calls.
But the decision to keep Vick was, of course, brilliant!
Vick…the one shining star amongst a sea of terribleness and mediocrity.
Like I said….unluckiest player alive…would have been undefeated and the holder of 10 SB rings if not for the awfulness he’s been surrounded by for the past decade.
But good to see the Vickpologists are already planting the seeds of their Vickcusus….it was the Ds fault!!
Newsflash…the D is going to be terrible this year, no doubt….but it also isn’t going to be helped by Vick’s patented 3.5% int rate or 11 fumbles.
Get used to it men, this secondary is as bad as last years! But hey, who needed good secondary transactions, with a great & deep FA & draft class, this year? Not us, we’re just fine, we got a project RG in the 1st, an unnecessary TE in the 2nd, a stiff rotation DT in the 3rd, & a mediocre QB in the 4th. Not to mention, the awesome Vick is back! SUPER BOWL BABY!!!! >x(
The team had a massive amount of holes, and they can’t be fixed all in one go.
They needed a new QB, Oline, Dls, Lbs and entire secondary. Free agency is to fill in one or 2 gaps…the draft is how you fix major structural problems.
Eagles hired Kelly, so obviously he went O first.
OT (a need), TE (a need for a 2 TE O), DT, then QB
These were all needs.
I don’t know why you guys thing this is a one year turnaround…this is a 3 year rebuild. (and another reason there’s no point in MV7 – this team is building for 2015, not 2013 – if he’s kept around, its because he’s this tema’s Doug Peterson)
Kelly will establish his Offense, then probably a draft focus on the DL/OLBs next year, (perhaps QB), safety
CB will be addressed in the 2015 draft.
Expect a lot of 35-28 losses over the next 2 years.
Or…if Vick is QB……a lot of 35-14 losses……
Eagles should have Drafted CB Leon McFadden (San Diego State) instead
of DT B Logan (LSU).. McFadden is penciled in and a 1st Year Starter for Cleveland Browns and will be a good NFL CB and was selected by teh Browns right after the Eagles Selected DT Logan..
Those 1st 3 picks, especially the Logan pick, is still pissing me off!
DCar !!!!!! Where you been Baby????!!!!
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
Wrong again “A-Hole Henski”
What I bet is that Utley would not Receive a $12.5 MIllion + a Year Offer as a “Free-Agent”, which could only occur after the Season was over and Utley and his Agent Test the Free Market ..The Fact that the Phils have agreed to overpay for him while Utley is still under Contract means that Utley never became a Free-Agent, therefore no Market Value was able to be established..
Sorry your such a sore Loser, but I am not Surprised..
really you piece of shit liar? “you bet me wehn UTley became a Free-Agent which he would not become until after the Season..
What is so hard to understand about this ..
I stated and bet that Utley would not get $12.5+ Million as a “Free-Agent” in the Open Market which would occured after the Season was over which would have established a True Market Value.. Now that the Phils went ahead and signed him before Free-Agency, then Utley was never a “Free-Agent” ..”
THAT IS WHAT YOU BET YOU PIECE OF SHIT POOR LOSER OF A MAN LIVING IN A TENT IN NC LIKE A LOW LIFE LONER? IS THAT WHAT YOU BET?????????????? BECAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE THIS IS HOW THIS BET UNFOLDED
PAUL
I say keep Utley for the Season and let him finish his Contract out and try to make a Playoff push, for the NL is really struggling right now and the NL East is still up for grabs..
Contrary to what many fans think, there is not much Trade Value for a 35 Year Old with bad knee’s as a 3-Month Rent a Player uless he were to sign an extension with his new Team and outside of the Dodgers, I don’t see any other Team willing to commit a 2-3 Year Deal to him with his helath issues
I could see the Phils offering him a 2 Year – $15 Million Total loaded with incentives as far as games played,plate appearance’s etc,etc and if he’s not interested, then let him walk…
ME
lmfao. you are out of touch paul with trade value, and salary demands. chases next deal starts at 2 year 30 million and prob gets 3 years 40 mill. lmfao at 2 year 15 million
PAULSCUM
I bet you $10 (your’s or mine Donation to a “Local Charity”)
Oakland A’s already have a good thing going and do not deviate for their BUsiness Model for a short-term Gain, they just have not in the past and believe they will not do so this Trade Deadline either
My 2 Year Deal Scenario is what the Phils would Offer to make a token offer.. You guys are way overrating Utleys Value and Future $$$ potential
He’s 35 for crying out load, has bum knee’s, and is liability defensively, .
Now he would be smart to go to the AL where he can DH and probably extend his Career 2-3 Years but not at $15 MIllion + A Season..No way
ME
You bet me $10 that what?
I wager often and play a lot of poker so $10 just wouldnt be worth my while, but if it were a $100+ I may think about it depending on the bet.
If you are proposing a wager the A’s wont trade for him I wouldnt except because I dont think Reub will do anything with him as he said and also because there are a lot more teams out there besides the A’s. If we are talking wagering on Chase’s next deal and I get $11+ per season and you get $11- yea I will gladly accept that
actually paul ill give you 12.5 and under and take 12.5 and over
thats 5 million more per year than the 2 year 15 million you suggested he will get. bet?
PAULSCUM
I will accept,
I am not a betting man for I am too cheap with my $$$, but I have no problem donating to a Charity of your Choice if I am to lose this Bet…
ME
donate how much to charity $10 or $ 100 ? i dont care its easy more for my charities. as an fyi your donation will be going to craig biggios sunshine kids or heathers fund ( a local cancer foundation ). i will give you my email address after i win.
just confirm the bet size. i have over 12.5 average annual salary and you have under 12.5.
PAULSCUM
I am good with this Bet
DONT SEE ANYTHING ABOUT FREE AGENCY YOU PIECE OF SHIT
JULY 26 PHILLIES ARTICLE LOOK IT UP CUNT
where is the free agent talk and agreement in there you fraud?
Vin, we all know the holes, but secondary was a black hole, & a dire need, & they failed by filling out the roster with mediocre FA stiffs, & drafted NOT 1, top DF player, in a deep draft! They did NOT need a mediocre QB, in a horrid QB class, when they could have got rid of your favorite QB & started Foles, in a rebuilding year. Although Ertz could be a stud, we did NOT need him with the Casey signing, & Celek & H arbor here already. That was an ill-advised, unnecessary, luxury pick.
Jamie Collins was there in Round 2.
vinnie. if this is a 3 year project then why do you think Chip brought Vick back?
Why did Reid sign Doug Peterson? Hold the fort for a bit.
Kelly clearly wasn’t sure what he had in the young QBs and wanted a safety net. Now that he sees Foles is performing at least equally to Vick, he should very well make the decision to move on to the kid….he knows there is no way he can have Vick on the bench with Foles starting…he also knows what Vick’s max is, and he sees a kid playing just as well with only 6 starts under his belt….the choice is obvious.
alright Vinnie…now that Chip see Foles is performing equal to Vick then why is Vick starting against the Pats?
I remember Doug Pederson being brought in during Mcnabb’s rookie year…….
Foles is not a rookie with playing time under his belt from last season.
So, I ask again.
now that Chip see Foles is performing equal to Vick then why is Vick starting against the Pats?
LOL
because he’s have a shitstorm on his hands if he didn’t….
I’ve already explained…..it isn’t going to be easy letting this guy outta here.Cutting Vick is a very difficult prospect….the media has built quite the myth around Vick, a myth that guys like you completely buy into.
Remember how hard it was when you found out that Santa wasn’t real….same deal here….can’t just cut the cord like that.
Had Kelly not announced Vick as the “starter” (they will switch every series – a bad idea I think) there would have been a media shitshow……total distraction over the following 48 hours.
So he did the logical thing…announce Vick as the “starter” this week…followed by Foles next week (or did you forget that part?)
ooooooh! The media.
So winning games is not the objective here but satisfying the media.
thanks Vin!It all makes sense now!
2ndary is the biggest need over the last 3 years. No doubt… only the blind and vinnie miss this.
I know one thing. Cary (I’m not a girl but have a girl name and a proclivity for interior decorating) Williams better be good or I will be one pissed of SOB!
I say let Boykin start over Fletcher, we need at least one potential playmaker out there. I’m also anxious to see E Wolfe tomorrow night as well. I don’t trust Chung and Nate Allen is flat out bum juice. It’s gonna be a long year defensively fellas.
PS- Paulman, man up. It’s only $10.
Well if Vick’s not the issue then Vinnie has no reason to post. Anyway Dcar I still get upset as well with free agency and the draft but what can we do. Paulman its only 10 dollars pay up. Mhenski its only 10 dollars calm down man. LOL
What else would you like me to say.
I told you all before the season that the Eagles would go heavy on O at the draft and they did.
I am very clear that the Eagles’ D will be putrid, and will give up 30 points regularily.
I have stated clearly that this is a 2 to 3 year rebuilding project and therefore it makes no sense to start a 33 year old mini man has been at QB.
No one ever responds to any post save the anti-Vick business. Not my fault. Everyone pretty much agrees on the other points….well, except the delusionals on here who think that this is a “WIN NOW!” season with MV7 at the helm.
Im not about win now… but if foles isnt the answer next season then why both this season?
You play your best players at the start of a season.. its what u do. Only time that changes is if u have your franchise Qb just drafted and u decide to go that route. Thats not the case here. Foles is a backup qb.. like ive been saying. I wish he wasnt… i wanted to move on from vick but… foles cant seen to hold on to it.. so maybe get off foles jock for a sec.
Paulman and Mhenski – you crazy kids. Please settle this thing offline, you’re giving me and Biglion a headache.
Here’s an idea – go double or nothing on another bet.
Great idea Irish. LOL
I bet $10 that Henski posts about this for until next Spring Training..
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On another note…Cousins had a nice couple drives with Washington tonight….6 of 7 with a td (they better hope he’s ready because he’ll probably see a good amount of time)
If we remember, he’s the guy I wanted the Birds to end up with…had seen him a lot at Mich state…had never seen Foles….Paulman liked Foles if I remember.
Looks like we were both right….they’re both preferable to the former superstar.
See… here is why i get called a vickapowhatever….
“Looks like we were both right”… aww… the clueless patting the back of the clueless.
Right about what? Djax’s last year being 2011, 2012..i mean 13? Or that vick would be cut in jan.. i mean before camp i mean.. before the season?
We were both right that both guys (Cousins for me, Foles for Paulman) would be developing well at this point in their careers.
Nothing else….who said Desean would be cut….I said he should have been cut (or traded)
I said Vick should be cut in Jan, not would….in fact I was very suprising to see him come groveling back with his 90% paycut.
You have got to get an eye doctor to check out tht whole issue you have with Ws and Ses.
Oh, and I am still sticking with Vick gone before the season…..can’t keep him on the bench when youth is being served.
its not “pleasing the media” you dimtwit….its avoiding controversy.
Holy shit, the media will have a collective orgasm the second Kelly announces Vick is not the starter.
They’re going to hemmorage 24/7 coverage of the Birds. There will be nothing like the frenzy that will create. The media will LOVE it.
Kelly knows this, so he’s got to ease Vick outta here slowly.
BTW 0 its not about wins…not this year – this year is about development…..
but if it was solely about wins, then why would he ever go with a QB who has cracked 8 wins just once since 2001?
That would be pretty dumb wouldn’t it? Go with a guy who has a 7 wins/year average as the QB if you’re in to “WIN NOW!!!”
And good to see you’re still avoiding the whole…named Vick to start this week, but Foles the next…that detail a little too inconvenient for your narrative.
You got it backwards. Kelly has to pretend that this is a legit competition so the Vick haters don’t find the nearest bridge to jump off.
He’s gotta keep pretending that a QB who didn’t do jack in college or when he had his chance last year is actually in Vick’s league. Reality hurts for the Vick haters, who’ll blow a gasket when Vick is named the starter.
And people need to chill about the secondary. In that same practice Vick and Foles went a combined 30-38 against the Patriots secondary. It’s TC people. No real hitting, no gameplanning.
RELAX.
The patriots have a terrible secondary. But it doesn’t matter because they put up 35+/game.
I’ll take a kid who’s never done anything in college over a fading guy who’s never done anything in the pros.
It shows how much of a hater you are that a QB who went to multiple Pro Bowls, was the first QB to win a road playoff game in Green Bay, and went to the championship game has done nothing. Oh, he’s also the Eagles all-time leader in QB rating.
I mean, could your hate be any clearer?
While the great Nick Foles went from 8-5, 7-6. to 4-8 in his senior season? He’s not in Vick’s league. And he also sucked in all the bowl games he made it to.
if he’s “not in Vick’s league”
Why was he better last pre-season?
Why was he better in the regular season?
Why are they at a standstill this TC?
Strange set of “leagues” you have there. Very different.
BTW – Vick went to college 15 yars ago. Why are you still brining it up?
Only in your imagination are they at a standstill in training camp. Since the pads have come on Vick’s the better QB. It’s only a standstill to people like you who think their completion percentage in TC means anything.
The actual eye test tells you all you need to know. I mean how many times does GCobb have to say it? Vick can make throws the other two can only dream of.
I bring up his college results because he only has one season at the NFL level. You claim Vick’s done nothing at the NFL as if Foles has done anything. I went back to college to see if he actually did anything. He didn’t do jack. That’s TWO levels of football that Vick outperforms him.
And where did Foles do better in the regular season? The only defense he played that was any good was Cincy. He sucked in all the games but the Tampa Bay game.
Jay Cutler has been to the pro bowl. So has Jake Delhomme, Gus Ferotte and Vince Young.
What’s your point exactly?
Take out Vick’s 5 game mirage when there was no film or experience with the guy and his rating changes quite dramatically.
What’s your point exactly?
Media hyped pro-bowls and inflated QB rating are MVs “accomplishments”
Like I said, you can’t stop hating. All those QBs you named all have accomplished SOMETHING at the NFL level. A Pro Bowl is an accomplishment, you hating won’t change that. Cutler, Delhomme, and Young have all taken their teams to the playoffs.
Too many blowhards like you think Vick was only good in ’10.
QBR ’10 – 68; QBR ’11 – 66
FO ’10 – 12th rated QB; ’11 – 11th rated QB
Pro Football Focus had him in their to ten as well.
QB rating was 85, which is above average.
I mean, your the guy who was riding Kolb and you think you have credibility on judging talent?
You’re just a typical fan who doesn’t understand football is a team game. When your ST units are garbage and your defense started off as bad as they did in ’11, you’re going to be hard pressed to win. But everything with you is Vick’s fault.
well said
“team game” “team game”
And yet you root for the most selfish, “do it himself” QB in the league.
“team game” “team game” You you always laud his individual accomplishments. Or how fast he can run, or his arm…his skills…whatever it is.
Cutler, Delhomme, Young may have all gone to the Pro Bowl, but I wouldn’t want any of those scrubs quarterbacking the Birds either.
I’m an equal opportunity “hater”
If they suck, I “hate”
BTW – its not all Vick’s “fault” but his 3.5% int rate and historically terrible fumble % certainly don’t help!
Vick will win the Starter’s Job for the Eagles
For 2013.. He simply is more polished and experienced
and better at this point in time and Chip Kelly is going to go with the QB
Who gives tge aeagkes the most options to Win Games and right now, this is Mike Vick.. Foles will get his chance in Pre-Season and as a Back-up over the course of this 2013 Season and has some nice upside for the Future
But 2013 will be Vick’s Season to Win and Re-establish himself as a good QB
abd if not, then Chip Kelky will turn to Foles at some point during the Season..
Kelly is going to give Vick every opportunity to succeed and Vick so far
Has played the best and most consistent this Camp thus far
Paul…..what happens if Vick gets the team to the playoffs in a wide open NfC East?
Think they’ll extend him if that happens?
Yes I do Songs.. If Eagles were to win the NFL East (which I agree is pretty wide open) , then I believe you would have to retain and extend Vick another 2-3 Years.. Don’t you… Now if the win 7-8 Games or less, then this will be Vick’s final Season as an Eagle and perhaps his final Season in the NFL..
Kelly really has nothing to lose by going with VIck for 2013 to see if they can get off to a quick start and win some Games early and gain some confidence and hang around in the NFC East Standing which anything is possible.. Personally for Vick, he has a lot to prove and has every reason to play well to show that he still is a Quality NFL Starter to show the Eagles and other Teams that he can still lead Teams to W’s
Now by week 10, if Eagles and Vick have played poorly and sitting at 2-3 Win’s, then you make the change to Foles to see what he has as you begin to plan for 2014 and beyond, but right now, Kelly is putting his best Players in position to lead to Team and try to be as competitive and win as many games as possible for the here and now in 2013 which is whaty he’s paid to do… We’ll see how it turns out, but since the decision was already made back in late January to bring Vick back, then you may as well go with him to start the Season..
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
Mhesnki, man you are a clown…every day you wake up, you continue to prove my point…how much time do you have on your hands..You must not of gotten your WIC check last week. You’re not fooling anyone, charity my ass…if it steams you so bad, I’ll send you the $10 so you can shut the hell up…
send the money to paul then he can pay his debts and i will shut up. the guy lost a bet and is now making up lies so he can steal from a charity.
dude pays i shut up and never use this name again
dude doesnt pay i troll every post he ever makes here forever thats how it works. i have no other means to make things right. and apologize in advance for my annoying posts but paulscum has the ability to stop it.
and for the record i totally get that this is a clown move on a blog but the post i will be trolling posting after everyone of paulscums posts is 100% accurate
so thats fine you can rip me all you want, but im not the asshole scumbag that stole from charity or made up lies to justify stealing from charity nor the guy with no integrity.
i should also add that making fun of people who need government assistance to survive isnt very funny.
Wow Paul!!! I know it hurt to say that. I’m more of a fan of yours everyday.
Not really GMCliff, I am able to put personal feelings aside and look at things realistically and the big picture and the Reality of the 2013 Season is that Mike Vick is the Best QB on the Eagles Roster right now to Start the Season.. You want to Start your Best Players to have the Best chance to Win.. This is Chip Kelly’s Goal and what he is Paid to do.. I personally don’t like how Vick plays the QB position. but he is their Best Option at the QB Position for the Start of 2013
and I bet you $10 that Mhenski follows this with his Loves Cancer & Hates Sick Children Rants … Ha Ha ..
PAULSCUM YOU WOULDNT PAY IF YOU LOST ASSHOLE AND YOU WOULD MAKE UP A LIE SAYING YOU SAID YOU WOULD BET HE WOULD POST HIS RANT IN 2014
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
“Bumphis Henski” now owes himself $10..
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
Well said Buddy!!
I don’t get that post alias. I apologize for that ignorance toward you Paul.
Brothers sometimes things are taken too far. It unnecessary.
I thought you said he would be released several times. How is that being a realist
LOL!!! Don’t wear him out too much Ciggy
This is a far different tune from a year ago or less you were calling for vicks release, c’mon paulman, stop being a flim flam man
I don’t like Vick as a NFL QB Jake for many reasons I have mentioned a 100 times and would have released him after last Season, but since I am not the GM and Kelly/Roseman & Co decided to bring him back, then I have to look at who gives the Eagles the Best Chance to Win and right now it’s Mike Vick that gives them their Best Chance to Win..
Do I have to like this.. No, but do I have to acknowledge it and support it, Yes, if I am a true Fan… and I still want Foles to Play well this Camp and Pre-Season and take stpes forward in his game for there is a pretty good chance that he will be needed and play over the course of the Season. Better Depth and Competition is needed up and down this Roster which is what I like about Kelly’s approach so far..
“Bumphis Henski” will most likely owe himself $20 very shortly
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
LOL!!!!
Once again Vinnie, your hate is showing. Vick is beloved by his teammates. Any report on Vicks standing in the locker room demonstrates that Vick is highly respected. In what world is he selfish? Just because you don’t like him doesn’t make him selfish.
I mean, how many times have you complained when a teammate says that Vick will win the job?
You’re the most biased Vick hater. All the metrics developed by objective people rated Vick highly. QB rating, espn’s QBR, FO, Pro Football focus. I’ll go with those numbers before I give any credibility to the guy who champions the cause of Nick Foles, like he championed the cause of Kolb.
You have no cred when it comes to judging QBs.
Selfish on the field. You do know, that over his career, Vick has “bailed” on almost 25% of the passes called….off he went running.
Now I understand, this is because he has always had the worst oline, coaches, skill players around him for his whole career….but he still bails on plays more than just about any QB ever. That’s selfish…”I can do it myself’
And if you really don’t think he’s all that selfish, go re-watch that video after the Giants win a couple years ago….Reid comes to hug him, but he turns to the camera…gotta do the “bob and weave” for the cameras now….gotta do that before I celebrate with everyone else.
FO outsiders have him ranked as what…their 26th best QB in the NFL? If you think Vick has a “high” QB rating or even QBR you’re delusional.
What did FO have him ranked last year? 26th? 27?
2010 ranked 13 (and remember, completely squewed due to first 5 games)
2011 raked 11
2012 ranked 27
What a superstar.
Could it be possible he’s fading because he’s a running QB on the wrong side of 30?
That ever enter your hard head?
You can try and sugar coat all the shit you want. Mike Vick is a career 3.5% int guy, and a historically high % fumbler.
You cannot hide the fact that he is 4th ALL TIME in fumbling percentage. This isn’t going away.
He is a king of keeping both teams in the game…first with a great play, then with a terrible play.
Can’t win like that.
Just how could a 6 game rook come in at almost 1/2 the int% in his first year btw?
btw – thought ever enter your head that I drop hyperbole just to watch you Vickpologists squirm and scramble trying to defend his continually poor play.
Last playoff win 2004. LOL…..I think people were still buying CDs and connecting to the internet with AOL in 2004.
Oh…and I have never once said it is “all his fault”. He just doesn’t help. He doesn’t help his oline. He doesn’t help his D.
He has led the league in 1st down interceptions for the last 3 years. You think that helps his tired D?
He averages 1 big negative play (sack, fumble, int) a quarter. You think that helps?
He has been top 5 “slowest to throw” in the NFL his entire career? You think that might play into why you always think his oline sucks?
Yet all you got is “you’re a hater, you’re a hater….HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m not a hater, I’m a friggin’ microscope, and you’re just pissed because of what is revealed when the myth of MV gets peeled away.
I laugh… 90% of the guys in here just want the birds to play hard and win. 2 guys just want to be right.
There is more to this team then just the qb… i dont care who the qb is if he gets us moving. Vinnie… u think vick is unable… that starting grandma is a better option. Chip, clearly doesnt agree with you. The kid had a chance to pull away… he didnt. So.. crying wont help you… just roll with it.
Vicks not getting cut.
Vicks not getting benched.
Vick looks to be earning his spot… move on.
If they cut him tomorrow id be fine.. we all would. Frankly… not alot of vick worshipers here… but… hes the best qb we have right now. How bout u go back to moms basement and we will let you know if we sign brady. Mmmk?
Reminder…. this IS a team sport. And frankly… this TEAM has more to worry about … like its secondary.
You are a hater.
Our secondary is fantastic. Chung played on the Pats and they haven’t won less than 11 games since 2001.
Kenny Philips was awesome in 2011 for the SB champion Giants.
Fletcher is another SB winner, getting INTS off Luck and Brady during the playoffs.
Boykin is a guy that by all reports is on fire.
If you don’t like these guys you are a biased hater.
You might not think these guys are good but Chip Kelly doesn’t agree with you. Just roll with it.
Reminder, this is a team sport, this TEAM has more to worry about than these guys in the secondary.
Congrats. U wrote something about something other than vick.
That said… im not a company man and dont want u to be either. Say how u feel..thats great. But lately u have become paulman2…. spewing all sorts silly promises and bets and havebt been right about much of anything.
Inquirer columnist Phil Sheridan said it best:
“After three days of watching Brady work, Kelly faces this reality… Vick has tools, but if he were going to be as good and as consistent as Brady, he would have been by now. Foles and Barkley still have upside to explore.
In other words – A 10 year veteran QB like Vick is supposed to look MUCH better than Nick Foles – not just a little better. According to everybody who watched practice last week, both Vick and Foles look like rookies compared to Brady.
Maybe some people would rather go 5-11 with a 33 year-old at QB, and learn nothing new. But most people would prefer to see what one of the younger guys can do…. it’s that simple.
Come on Irish, most NFL QB’s will suffer in comparison with Brady you know that. And when was the last time Brady won a SB? Not his fault because its a team game, and BTW for the record Tom Brady is the man.
Phillys beat reporters are a sad lot. They spent those Patriots practices drooling over Brady. Um..there is only ONE Tome Brady. The only other QB you talk about in the same sentence as Tome Brady is Peyton Manning.
And then there is everyone else. lol
Michael Vick isn’t Tom Brady so we’re doomed. Okay.
*rolls eyes*
“The only other QB you talk about in the same sentence as Tome Brady is Peyton Manning.”
True, and you talk about Mike Vick in the same sentence as guys like Matt Cassel, Matt Hasselbeck, Jason Campbell, Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton, and other guys who are in their 30s and on their way out….
Of course Vick is not not Brady!
Sheridan is pathetic in this no news so so pull a story out my ass moment.
Brady will go down as arguably the greatest QB to play the position and to insinuate Foles & Barkley’s ceiling might be “Tom Brady” is absolutely ridiculous.
The only thing they have in common with Brady is they’re white and play QB, which can be said for a high percentage of players in the league 1st 2nd or 3rd string who are white.
Vick, Foles, or Barkley will never be on a plateau with Tom Brady because a player like him only comes around every few genrations, and candidly (and I know this is going to sting) When it’s all said in done Foles or Barkley, or the likes of Kolb will never be on the level of…..
MICHAEL VICK
Years from now when we’re up in age and see past legends and players that intrigued the fans, you’ll see a feel good story of Michael Vick and at that time Foles and Barkley will be like when we think of Brad Geobel today.
Who thinks about Brad Geobel today?
Are you saying Sheridan is wrong?
What Sheridan said was – if Vick were going to be as good and as consistent as Brady, he would be by now. – Is that not true?
Sheridan also said – Foles and Barkley still have upside to explore. – Is that not true?
My question, and the question that most clear thinking people would ask is this… why start to rebuild a team with a QB who will be gone before the team is good enough to contend?
What Chip Kelly is doing here is a lot like what Mike Shanahan tried to do with McNabb in Washington. How did that work out?
Most 10 year NFL starting QBs should compare more closely to Brady than they compare to Nick Foles.
When a QB is in his 11th year in the league and there is very little that separates him from rookie…. he should not be playing on a rebuilding team.
If Vick plays 16 games this season (which is unlikely), and by some miracle the Eagles go 8-8… then what? Do they keep a 35 year old running QB in hopes that he survives yet another mediocre season? When do we move on? It’s just dumb to have an old man leading a rebuilding team.
“When do we move on”
And there’s the question.
Mike Vick keeps leaving Songs, Kool, Goto, TS at the altar, but every year they keep walking into the chapel hoping he’ll show up. “This will be the year, this will be the year, this year will be different”
One more ear of shite won’t change anything for these apostles. If, and its a ridiculously huge if, Vick starts the year and the team flounders to a middling 7-9 with nothing learned at the QB position, then tthey’ll start in February with the “it was the D, it was the new system, it was the crappy Wrs…” which will morph into “amazing skill set, fits the offense, strong arm…” business next summer as they hope and pray that we get another year of the superstar in 2014.
They want Vick because he’s “Vick”, and nothing more.
They cannot comprehend the idea that it would be better to go 7-9 with Foles playing the last 6 games at an NFL caliber (and improving) And finding out if he can be a legit starter in the NFL, then it is going 7-9 with the former superstar and entering next year’s draft with no understanding of the QB situation.
Start Mike Vick and the season is over right now. There’s nothing to hope for because we’ve all read the book 11x.
Start Foles, and at least there is some hope for the first 1/2 of the season….I can hope that he continues to get a little better each game. Did none of you VIckpologists not get a little pumped last year as you watched Foles improve game after game?
(and none will admit this – the improvement he showed game after game was observable and measureable…he threw 3 of his 5 intsin the first 6 quarters of action)
Much more exciting watching a kid get slowly, but incrementally better each game than a 33 year old vet making the same mistakes he was making in 2002.
I can hope Foles develops into an above average QB….I can hope there will be something to look forward to in 2014…and if he bombs over those first 8-10 games, then I can hope to see Barkley and see if he starts improving.
That’s legitimate, rational hope.
Hoping Vick suddenly becomes a competent QB who reduces his historical int and fumble %ages is not hope. Its an irrational pipe-dream.
And regardless of all that, or who I think should be the QB – I think its a terrible idea to rotate QBs every series this preseason.
Doesn’t allow for any rhythm or consistency. A “series” might be 1 play with a turnover, bomb, big McCoy run. Qb might just get 2 or 3 snaps…
Vick should play the full Q (and perhaps a bit more – say 3 series) followed by Foles doing the same next week.
I would feel really really bad for Vick f he were to fumble the first series, then not get another chance to redeem himself until next week….no really, I would!
I’m black, and I wish the best for Vick, but I am on record with saying that Foles will be the one who will come out of this thing shining as the future to Chip Kelly’s success, and I am not a racist in any way.
I am black, and I had a Grandmother that was part white, and a Great grandmother that was part white, and a Great Great Grandmother that was white, although all my others parents were Black as Shaka, and I loved all of them.
Why don’t you guys who always scream race, and those who are strictly about defending the black race wake up, and grow up. Good people, aren’t just found in individual races, they are found among THE HUMAN RACE!!
GMCliff, is partial to that; a love for all humans regardless of race.
Thats not what this competition is about. Its about talent, and who is the best option for this team. It can’t be determined by skin color, but by overall play of the athlete. Why don’t you all stop this 1950′s bullshit?
Great post Gmcliff.. I didn’t know you were Black, I thought you were the real “Darth Vadar” Ha …
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
“Bumphis-Ass” Henski up to $110..
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
LOL!! You would know, if I were down Carolina eating some of those Ribs, Barbecued Fried Chicken, and Shrimp & Grits………:)
Your making me Hungry now GMCliff… Maybe some pulled BBQ Pork Sandwich for Dinner..
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
Thats what I’m talking about!!!
If only GM, if only.
I know Bugs, but this non-sense only rehashes, and opens old painful wombs for a lot of people. So, let it die, by leaving ignorance in its proper receptacle for useless refuse.
Ok Im leaving to go down to the game….really excited for it TBH. Im also doing the tivo thing so I can pick it apart at home lol. Time to see if Kelly is anything at all…Barkley Foles Secondary 3-4 so much to see. Paulman I already have to read about Vick every single thread so pay your damn debts so I don’t see have to read about 10 dollars for the next 5 years……You lost pay up.
Dammit Paulman pay up or tell me where or who to pay it to. LOL this is ridiculous.
Its going to rain, so I don’t expect much…..
GMCliff — what up! Let’s get back to debating some Eagle football — you have the upper edge since I’ve been MIA on Gcobb and most Eagle news this summer — Give me your preseason Pro-Bowl / All Pro Team Philadelphia Eagles projections. I like Shady to return to Pro Bowl form.( 1300 yds) DJax gets 50 catches for 900 yds. Cox gets 6 sacks.
I predict you will eat your words about Howies draft picks……..plain, and simple.
Paul, I actually saw something from Bennie Logan, and Barkley although he wasn’t as efficient as Vick , or Foles, I liked how he through the ball, but I still feel there were better players available at their drafted positions.
And , you will be forever enshrined in the Kiss My Ass Club, with your picture right over the urinal that I piss in…..
@Paulman – I don’t believe him, you like children,right?
Yes Eagles, of course I do,
Have 2 Teenage kids of my own and
Have Coached Kid Sports for 12 Years
In Baseball, Soccer,Football, Basketball & Tennis
Paulman bet me $10 that chase wouldn’t sign for more than $10 million a year with the loser sending the proceeds to the charity of the winners choice. Then 2 hours after chase signed for $27 million over 2 years said that he was not paying and basically said fuck you to cancer and Children charities.
And for that you are a classless, poor, piece of shit lowlife Squelchers who has no integrity. I truely feel bad for every single parent, teacher, sibling and family member who had a hand in raising such an asshole. You should change your name from Paulman to Paulscumbag as you certainly have no manly qualities.
I would love nothing more then to spit in your face in real life, but since I cant the above will be my spit all day every day.
Annoying 5 year old is back.