• September 28, 2022

Vick Should Not Take Another Snap As Eagles’ QB

MichaelVick36Vick’s final snap versus the Giants, should be the last one taken as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. Whether the hamstring injury heals or not, Vick can no longer be part of the quarterback equation. Electing to start Vick again would be a “mistake,” unforgivable even by a rookie coach.

Why was the self-appointed leader not doing everything and anything to help the Eagles win when he was no longer able to do it on the football field? That was a big bench Vick was seated on, plenty of room for a coach or player to rest a moment and discuss adjustments needed on the football field. It was a disappointing site to witness as a fan, an embarrassing one with reference to the state of this franchise. Vick has been quite vocal during throughout his Eagles tenure; however Sunday his loudest and clearest message to date was spoken without even saying a word.

It is the “job” of the starting quarterback, the one he is paid to do, if you can’t physically play the role, assist with the mental, psychological and emotional part of the game. It’s the hardest position to play, and the man replacing Vick was forced into his “second” relief role as a rookie. You’re telling me that the Eagles coaching staff couldn’t direct Barkley to sit next to him. To discuss some of the things Vick was seeing from the defense, anything would have been better than not talking at all. I’m not a doctor, so maybe a hamstring injury causes one the inability to think and speak clearly.

Vick should not and can’t be the starter for the Philadelphia Eagles again this season. He demonstrated his true colors on Sunday. He was removed from the game, but he quit on his team.

Jeff Kolsky

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DCar
DCar
October 30, 2013 1:43 am

No comments? BWAHAHAHA!!!

Stevo
Stevo
October 30, 2013 2:27 am

Agree

daggolden
daggolden
October 30, 2013 5:19 am

Yes he quit on his team. Its Foles and Barkleys team the rest of the year. Good luck Sunday vs that Oakland defense.

daggolden
daggolden
October 30, 2013 5:51 am

This is not a good spot this week for the Eagles. I don’t know how many Eagle fans have seen Oaklands defense but there front 7 is very very good. They are physical and aggressive. It doesn’t matter who the Eagles QB is I think its going to be a long day for whomever. Chip better come up with a different game plan or they will get blown out. The Eagles defense is also due for a bad game and I can see Pryor gashing them with long runs. I just have a bad feeling.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 6:58 am

when he is healthy he will be keyshawned!

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 7:30 am

Sort of like when Jay Cutler quit on his team in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP game? Another stupid article meant to get posters arguing back and forth, there was nothing Vick could do to help Barkley that the QB coach couldn’t point out and he couldn’t go inside because if Barkley got hurt he would have been forced back into the game. Geez give it a break. If you want to point out its time to move on because he cannot stay healthy fine but stop reaching for nonsense.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 7:50 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Exactly like when cutler quit on his team… and cutler a high profile QB was crucified nationally! Goes with the position no matter who you are!

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 7:58 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Agreed and who is the QB of the Bears when he returns for his groin injury?

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 8:02 am
Reply to  Biglion821

The bears have made their bed with cutler… they will have to lie in it. the eagles on the other hand are a rebuilding team, have not commited years to 7 and will move on…

greenfan
greenfan
October 30, 2013 10:04 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Funny that you would bring up Cutler. If you compare he and Vick’s lifetime winning percentage it is almost identical (.550 to .552). And the have played about the same number of games. (Like 100 to 110). He and Vick are alike in a lot of ways.

DCar
DCar
October 30, 2013 12:52 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Yeah, both are underachieving, overhyped stiffs!

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 7:38 am

BTW go inside the room and see if the other players feel that way because yea we know how their feeling from our couches at home. One last thing so it’s Vick’s fault that the coaches didn’t tell Barkley to sit next to him?

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 7:51 am
Reply to  Biglion821

big lion you are the most rational vickpologist on here but my man it is over….

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 7:57 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Cigar as I said he cannot stay healthy so it’s time to move on. You did see that right? I was commenting on the ridiculous nature of the article not whether Vick should start again.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 7:47 am

I wonder if G-Man will post and analyze Vicks Int early in the game when he threw the Ball 3-4 yards behind an Open Receiver or when he took
The Intentional Grounding Play to stop another Drove.. 2 very Poor Plays that had nothing to do with his hamstring, let’s see the Pictures and Analysis G-Man

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 8:03 am
Reply to  paulman

Stop being stupid paulman he wasn’t healthy going into the game so what’s your point? He shouldn’t have played period!!!!

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 9:33 am
Reply to  Biglion821

A pulled Hammy from 3 Weeks ago is going to keep a 12 Year Vet off the Field.. That’s Bullshit Biggy..
Peyton Manning played Sunday with 2 severley Injured Ankles and still led his Team to VIctory
Russell Wilson got pummelled all game versus the Rams and continued to play on to lead his Seahawks to a Victory..
RGIII has played all season for Redskins when coming off a severe knee injury because he was committed to playing.. Maybe not a smart move, but much more limiting and painful than a Hamstring Pull

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 9:43 am
Reply to  paulman

And you would because of your long and illustrious playing career right?

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 10:22 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I am a Professional Transportation & Logisitcs Provider and am highly compensated for my Experience, Knowledge, Talent and Skills and yes, there are days I still come in and work a Productive Day with a 3 week Hamstring Pull..
I have never seen a bunch iof wussies and Vick lovers complain about a 3 week old Hamstring Pull… All it means is that you have to play a little different, read defenses better, stay in the pockey, make quicker decisions, be more accurate, all things that Vick has shown time and time again that he is unable to do at the NFL Level.. Eagles should simply release him once cleared so he can maybe hook up with someone else (which is very doubtful) but as I have stated since January and still strongly believe in, This will not be 100 % Chip Kelly’s Team until Vick is removed from the Team.. PLain and simple, you want to waste a 2013 Season with a 33 Year old QB whose best days are way behind him, then go right ahead.. I would much rather see a Team of Kelly’s Players who are going to make up the nucleaud for the Future and Vick, Herremans,Trent Cole, Brett Celek, Jason Avant are not part of the Future, so cut the Chord

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 10:28 am
Reply to  paulman

and I use the term “Professional” very loosley in my case ..

Stevo
Stevo
October 30, 2013 2:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

same list youve had for 2-3 years/ dont forget to throw jackson out like you usually do.

Avant is solid for what he is. Herm is done. B.C. is prolly done because of how well the rook has done.

I dont know where we will go with QB but jackson stays. He is a weapon.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 2:54 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Your right Stevo, would the Team & Franchise have been better off
If some of these Players were gone a year or two ago..
I believe so, and it wouldn’t have been any worse would it???
Just can’t understand why a new Coach in Kelly just couldn’t have come out back in January and state, I am here to start a new Program which will include my type of Players to rebuild the Eagłes back into a winner again, what would be so hard to come clean and begin from scratch, what would have been lost.. He blew it thinking he was going to contend with the holes on this a office and 3-4 shitty Drafts in a row

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 2:55 pm
Reply to  paulman

Because shipping merchandise is the same as dodging 300lb lineman, you make lots of sense buddy.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 4:04 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I’ll work on making “cents” while you work on making “sense”
Your Boy VIck is done Biggy, Come to Terms with it.. Your are beginning to embarras yourself.. Maybe You can Dress Up like
Vick for Halloween if it makes you feel any better…

stachichach
stachichach
October 30, 2013 7:49 am

Whatever he sucks and has no future with us, the season is a wash just cut the bum.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 30, 2013 8:17 am

Nick Foles handed chance number 4 ( 2012, preseason, Tampa game, Now Oakland game) to be a franchise QB. Clock is ticking if Nick doesn’t grasp this golden opportunity he has no one to blame but himself.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 8:24 am

you are correct… being back up for an injury prone starter does get you some chances!

Xevious
Xevious
October 30, 2013 8:35 am

Lol Saying Cutler quit and came back means nothing Biglion. Just because Chicago is stupid doesn’t mean the Eagles should be. Also the locker room needs new leadership seeing how desean quits on plays and Vick quits on his team. Im not sure Chip is the right guy to purge the cancers, but it’s what we have right now.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 8:53 am
Reply to  Xevious

Again X. I was just pointing out that guys get hurt and pout on the bench it’s more then just those two guys, again Vick cannot stay healthy so state that and let’s move on, this articles reasoning was ridiculous.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
October 30, 2013 9:46 am
Reply to  Biglion821

However common you think it is for injured quarterbacks to sulk alone on the bench after an injury – what Vick did took Ray Didinger by surprise too.

There were many Philly media people questioning Vick’s leadership after his actions on Sunday. Some compared it to last year when Vick threw the whole team under the bus saying that they all quit on Andy.

Personally, I don’t think Vick is equipped to put on the ball cap and offer quarterbacking advice to the kid.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 10:12 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Again Irish the media is questioning it, do you hear players questioning it? You want to talk embarrassing how about your back up QB saying well I never ran that play before. I guess he should’ve mentioned that to Chip on the sidelines like um coach can we run something else I don’t know that play. Irish I’m just pissed right now because it seems like nobody knows what the hell they are doing.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 10:20 am
Reply to  Biglion821

on hte offensive side i 100% agree with you… defense seems at least to be playing with a plan– they ARE NOT the most talented group but there is cohesion and a plan–
plain and simple if (and thats a big if) that play from the 2 was run it should have been run in hte mirror with barkley… their thinking was flawed twice–1 they should have run the ball and 2 if they made the mistake of throwing that play it should have been run to the right!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 30, 2013 10:37 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Because Barkley was an idiot for throwing the coach under the bus, does not excuse Vick for ALSO acting like he did on the sidelines.

Fairweather quitter. Always has been. Bad body language.

Over his career he’s flipped the birds to fan who were upset. Threw his whole team under the bus. Has thrown linemen undewr the bus. And now the sulk on the sidelines with the towel over his head (and later the cap on….juuuuuust so)

Frontrunning Quitter.

Things going well…..pound the chest – Look at ME!

Things going badly….slink down on the bench with a towel over his head….don’t look at me…its someone else’s fault!!

Frontrunning quitter.

“leader” indeed.

Compare him to Foles who says nothing but ‘I’ when things are going bad and nothing but ‘we’ when its going good.

Completely opposite.

We’ll see who the team responds to soon enough.

And by ‘team’ I do not mean the 2 amigos (Lesean and Desean) who clearly love their hero. I am not looking forward to Desean’s effort over the remainder of the year btw

Xevious
Xevious
October 30, 2013 12:08 pm

Correct Mr Vincent.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 4:43 pm
Reply to  Xevious

Word out in California is that D-Jax wants to play for his Hometown Oakland Raiders and play with his buddy QB Tyrrelle Pryor
Sources state that Eagles will get CB Joselio Hanson back and the Raiders 2nd Round Draft Pick in 2014 .. Stay Tuned on this one..

jakedog
jakedog
October 30, 2013 8:58 am

No leadership on this team

mhenski
mhenski
October 30, 2013 9:10 am

Should’ve never signed this loser to his first contract here, nor his second nor his third.

This shit should have never happened cuZ he shouldn’t have been here. At this point I hope chip does throw him back out there. At this point it’s comedy.

DonP
DonP
October 30, 2013 9:11 am

You call that a team , team of clowns more better from top to bottom rock bottom

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 9:38 am
Reply to  DonP

Rock Bottom has not happened yet DonP
I expect the Eagles to get whipped by the improving and confident Raiders
like 33-10 this SUnday… Chip Kelly and Company will have to rethink his “System” and start over on the Offensive End .. Finally there will be changes made along the OL (Herremans is Toast) and Center Kelce has not really played well this Year either… Look for Alan Barbree to take Herremens place and possibly Vandervelde to replace Kelce

greenfan
greenfan
October 30, 2013 12:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

I want Barbee to replace Herremans starting this week. Everyone believed that Herremans would be playing at a high level, even though he had never played right guard before. I had also hoped that he would be a positive, experienced influence on Johnson, but because of his consistently poor play this year, it has added to the rookies troubles in making the transition to the NFL. Barbee played well in the preseason and I would believe will play no worse than what Herremans has been giving the team. Shake something up on the OL, and Todd looks like the weak link.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 12:34 pm
Reply to  greenfan

I have been harping on Eagles to get rid of Todd Herremans for 2 Seasons now ..

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 10:39 am

from a rebuilding standpoiint the eagles would have been better off with foles, barkley and whomever- vick unfortunately (as leader and qb) brought with him the stench of the last couple of years–right or wrong but as qb and leader that goes with the territory… many of us stated that when the decision to bring him back was made… no we have qb confusion, qb instability and its ugly– if foles went down you move barkly in and go on…. vick took a roster spot from a younger guy stupid…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 30, 2013 10:48 am

Foles said. “Leadership is when the team is down and it looks like the sky is falling, you have to be the guy during practice who keeps the guys going and making sure everything is up-tempo. No matter what, you can’t be down. You have to motivate them. That’s what a leader is and in these situations you need them more than ever.”

Vick said: “…….”

Well he didn’t say anything because, when a rookie Qb who hadn’t practiced, was in the game, he was slouching on the bench, shoulder drooped, with a towel over his head.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 2:51 pm

Vinnie cut the crap fans and writers are the only ones who worry about that shit, leadership isn’t shitting the bed with a chance to take over the starting job. Who gives a damn except you what he says to reporters, stop talking and go beat the Raiders show how much a leader you are don’t talk about it.

Xevious
Xevious
October 30, 2013 3:45 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

see my below post.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 2:52 pm

Better yet start throwing tantrums on the sidelines like Dez so all these idiots can say how passionate he is.

Xevious
Xevious
October 30, 2013 3:44 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Bogus…Dez is a bigger Idiot than anyone on this team. Like his play but we already have enough drama. Love the way you take a passive agressive shot at Foles big. Your the master of that Passive agressive stuff. Foles game against Dallas has nothing to do with Vicks antics on the sidelines. I mean Lets be honest look at the record your protecting a guy that continuely shits the bed in the game and real life. But you take your passive agressive shot at a guy thats started 120 less games then your guy. You make no sense. You just keep doing the passive aggressive thing when it comes to Vick. It’s time to move on. I for one wanna see if the kid can bounce back. This is where you see what young guy are made of.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 8:37 pm
Reply to  Xevious

X that wasn’t even about Vick what are you talking about? Let me be clear Vick cannot stay healthy it’s time to move on, can you cats read? Nothing ambiguous about that, I don’t think Foles is the answer but I hope he performs well. Barkley is a waste. I am done with all the experts on this site.

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 4:54 pm

Paulman’s Off-Season Moves

Release QB Mike Vick Immediately
Then after the Season
Trade WR D-Jax to the Oakland Raiders for a 2nd Round Draft Pick
Trade LT Jason Peters to the Falcons for a 2nd Round Draft PIck
Trade RG Todd Herremans to the Detroit Lions for 6th Round Draft PIck
Trade TE Brett Celek to the Jets,Colts,Browns whoever for 6th Rd Draft Pick
Trade DE Brandon Graham to the Vikings,Colts whoever for 4th Round Pick
Trade DE Trent Cole to whoever for a 6th/7th Round Draft Pick
Trade MLB Demeco Ryans to whoever for a 5th Round Pick

Next Draft

1 – 1st Round PIck
3 – 2nd Round PIcks
1 – 3rd Round Pick
2 – 4tt Round PIcks
3 – 5th Round Picks
2 – 6th Round Picks
2 – 7th Round Picks

That’s 14 Total Draft Picks for the 2014 Draft with 7 PIcks out of the Top 125 Players/Selections or so offering lots of Flexibility to use mid/late Round Picks to move up in the earlier Rounds if need be.

Then Draft the Following

QB, OT, Guard & Center, 2 WR,
DE, OLB, CB, Safety, ILB, DT

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 30, 2013 5:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul like your friend gm you way overestimate trades

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 30, 2013 6:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Why do you surmise that teams would value those listed players that high to want to give up their draft choices? It’s easy to say trade this for that, but other teams value their draft choices highly just like the Eagles and we fans do. D Jax is good, I like him more than most I think, but he’s not going to land a second round pick, nor is Peters. Try a third or fourth for Jackson and a fourth for Peters. He’s not the same Peters of three years ago, perhaps in name only!

jott1972
jott1972
October 30, 2013 5:47 pm

Paulman – really? The Eagles will be lucky to trade all of those guys and get a middle round pick. Desean is a gimic player and the Eagles overpaid for him. Howie Roseman, the fraud, is the reason this franchise is in the toilet. He cant blame Andy now for this mess. He drafts poorly, he signs garbage free agents over market value, then hires a college coach who has no business being in the NFL… another Spurrier type move. When is Lurie going to pull Howie’s lips off his rear and hire a REAL GM who understands how to build a winner. Nothing is going to change until diaper boy is replaced.

jakedog
jakedog
October 30, 2013 7:06 pm

Big lion, passive aggresive?…….

Big fucking time……pussy mo fo

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 8:14 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Jake you are without a doubt the biggest asshole on this site, how’s that for passive aggressive you little bitch. Tired of you and the shit you type stop addressing me dude.

jakedog
jakedog
October 30, 2013 8:39 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Now you are finally talking biglion good job

But there are far bigger jag offs on this site than big Jake, including yourself

Guess what big pussy, foles has “it”

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 9:04 pm
Reply to  jakedog

He really showed IT against the Cowboys asshole.

jakedog
jakedog
October 30, 2013 9:12 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

We will see

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
October 30, 2013 9:17 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

In the Dallas game “it” = a vagina.

While I agree that Foles should play, there is really no basis for your undying faith in him Jake. I saw you post after the Tampa game that he is going to be better than Luck, RG3, Wilson, Tannenhill. I appreciate your enthusiasm about him, but cripes. Let him play a couple more games before you anoint him as the second coming.

jakedog
jakedog
October 30, 2013 9:38 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Bugsy, you are confusing big jake for someone else, jake never compared big nick to anyone

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 8:07 pm

D-Jax & Peters would Return 2nd Round value
D-Jax is still a game Breaker and on the rightcTeam could do well
Peters plays a premium position of LT
Look around the NFL and you can count 10 Teams that would love to have Peters protecting their Franchise QB’s
(Steeler,,Panthers, Falcons, Packers,Colts)
As a Few Teams..
Now D-Jax contract is a whole other issue
And would have to be reduced as it will with the Eagłes next Season
For him to remain in Philly..
The others are 5th/6th or 7th Rounders to the right Teams that have a need
But the reality is the Eagłes are stuck with them and I expect about half that list to be traded or released after the Season

paulman
paulman
October 30, 2013 8:13 pm
Reply to  paulman

On a side note,
I don’t think Peters like this “Zone-Read”
Blocking scheme a bit, he flourishes more on the man on man
On the DE thats in front of him and pulling out leading Sweeps & Screens
Not this Chip Kelly Gimmick shit..

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 30, 2013 9:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Back to you, learn how to read Its time to move on from Vick, but you won’t see me flip flopping all over this site like most of your idiotic posts. Yeah like comparing what you do to being a NFL QB. So flip flop on my friend flip flop on.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
October 30, 2013 9:50 pm

Withholding My I Told You So Until week 17 is impossible at this point so One last Time for the Vickpologist Crowd.

I TOLD YOU SO!

Butch007
Butch007
October 31, 2013 12:40 am

While I agree with the final assessment of Vick…the fact that he didn’t choose to speak to Barkley as some sort of last straw is just offensive. Barkley is an ass, is essentially another Kevin Kolb and won’t be in the NFL two years from now. Barkley is the same guy that claimed he was in a 3 QB race for the starting job, when it’s been clear from the beginning that he didn’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell of beating a healthy Vick or Foles for the starting job. Barkley is the same guy that played poorly in pre-season games and then blamed his poor play on his 2nd and 3rd string teammates then when he stepped out on the field with the starters still looked stank like ass. Overconfident to a fault and generally person that I suspect most players won’t take seriously.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 31, 2013 7:16 am
Reply to  Butch007

He also blamed his bad senior season on Lane Kiffin and withheld information about his injured shoulder he will be another entitled failed USC QB.

jcheez82
jcheez82
October 31, 2013 12:39 pm

I disagree. although I think Vick days as an Eagle quarterback is over, and for just reasons, I dont feel like he quit on his team. I think the constant injuries just overwhelmed him. Let the man b human. He was upset about his injury and needed a moment to reflect. did any of u guys notice he was crying on that big ol bench? Vick gave his all in the short tenure he had here. He was simply over the hill.