It wasn’t another Hall of Fame worthy performance by Nick Foles, but it was a solid performance without any major mistakes and it was definitely a good enough effort to get a had-fought victory over the NFC rival Washington Redskins. Foles led the Eagles to 24 points and took care of the football, which is what winning NFL quarterbacks do.
Foles has been consistently proving he can be a good NFL quarterback and has made me more lean toward making him our quarterback of the future.
He takes care of the football, which is one of the reasons Michael Vick has come up short the last few years.
Foles also has shown another ability which Vick failed at and that’s the ability to stay healthy. He took a big shot from blitzing Redskins middle linebacker London Fletcher, yesterday. The 6’6″ quarterback lay on the ground a few seconds, but got back up and continued playing in the football game. On another play, he seemed to strain his shoulder a bit, but he flexed it and stretched it and kept on playing. He continues to show he’s our guy.
There are five games remaining in the regular season and each week Foles goes out and performs solidly, he puts another nail in the foundation of making himself the Eagles quarterback. He doesn’t need to break records each week, he just needs solid performances like he had yesterday.
Right now I think he has the job in his hands and he will keep the job as long as he continues those solid performances.
Foles completed 17 of 26 passes for 298 yards. His quarterback rating was 104.3. He also ran nine times for 47 yards and the first touchdown of the game.
We know he’s not fleet of foot, but the former University of Arizona signal caller has shown he can move well enough to get the job done. He’s not going to have 100 yard rushing days like Vick, but he can run fast enough to execute the offense.
Foles led the Birds on a long touchdown drive in the first quarter to give them the lead.
He led the Eagles to 24 points in the first three quarters and that gave the Birds a 24-0 lead. In the fourth quarter, the Eagles offense was stopped on a couple of fourth down plays in which backup running back Bryce Brown was tackled a yard short of the first down. This cost them the momentum in the fourth quarter and the Skins eventually put up 16 points to make it a nail biter at the end.
I thought Chip Kelly had Foles running the football too much in the fourth quarter. Kelly has to trust Foles to throw the football in those situations and believe he can do that, but still stay away from turnovers. I thought Kelly got too conservative in his play calling.
LeSean McCoy, who gained 77 yards on 20 carries with two touchdown scores, must change his running style when the Birds are trying to run the football to run out the clock. He can’t dance in the backfield as much and run the risk of losing yardage because it puts the Birds in bad second and third down situations. The NFL rushing leader needs to first get what yardage he can get after his takes the handoff, by running north and south.
Still when it was over, thanks to a Brandon Boykin interception, Foles and McCoy the offense had put up enough points to get the W.
Is the use of the zone read as the nucleus of his offense a new concept? No. Are his run-pass option package plays novel to the NFL? No. Was he the first to use an up-tempo offense? No.
But the combination and the adeptness at which he calls his offense have made Kelly successful in a short time. Wait till he gets his quarterback.
That’s not to say Foles isn’t the future. He may be. But Kelly has yet to say so, and watching Foles not maximize some of the yards he could have gained in the zone read makes you wonder whether Kelly ultimately wants a mobile quarterback.
I think watching how effectively the Eagles defense used the “gap exchange” to shut down RG3, and how the read/option has had limited success this season in general, might be an indication that NFL offenses need to be more complex.
I don’t think Chip Kelly ever thought that he could win in the NFL by concentrating solely on what the QB and RB do when the defensive end holds the edge.
Kelly will win with any QB you give him as long as he makes good decisions and does not turn the ball over.
C’mon man, makes him look like our guy??, you have to be joking. Clean your eyeballs, put on your glasses, and crown him the guy.
Unreal run here nick foles just smashing the NFL 5-1 as a starter and with the help of our improving defense this team is one of the hottest teams in football and has major momentum.
I wish we didn’t have a bye this week for 2 reasons 1 it could take away from our momentum a little and 2 I want to see more!!!!
I haven’t been this excited for Sundays every week since to’s arrival.
Go eagles!
I agree gcobb, the only criticism I have for Kelly in this game, besides the challenge, is he goes conservative when he could have put the skins out and the backups in with a few more passes by foles, it’s almost like he goes in a prevent offense mode
I believe this will change as he gets more confidence in foles
Okay not to jump to conclusions but umm I’m pretty sure there will be no drafting of QB’s by the Eagles in the 2014 draft.
It woud be very stupid not to draft one with an Aging MV, that will likely not be here next season. We need a third stringer to develop, and look, we need the season to end with Foles at the helm to really make a sound decision here.
I think we pick up a vet to put behind foles for now. This kid is our qb until 2024
Why a veteran? If there is a very good QB in the draft I would take him. Less money, and development for the future.
a veteran because we have our future now in nick foles, we have our project in barkley and now we need a competent veteran back up to step in if foles were to get hurt. at the right price i wouldnt mind if it were vick but i dont think he would be ok with that but i may be wrong.
I hear you theone the only way I draft a QB is if I’m convinced Barkley can’t play, now you know I think Barkley is a stiff but I can’t think for Chip Kelly.
Ya we have not seen enough of Barkley. I hope he comes back much stronger next year. One intriguing thing is that sitting there watching MV and Foles do the dance, he knows exactly what Chip wants. He is smallish like Vick, and he may have problems seeing the field too. Foles’s advantage is his height, with the ability to see the entire field very well. I dunno Biglion.
Maybe they grab a QB in the mid to late rounds as a project, but I can’t see them burning one of their first to third round picks for a QB at this point. I want to see them draft some help for the defensive secondary and I’d like to see them grab another big receiver.
It looks like Billy Davis figured out how to use Trent Cole in his scheme. I would have Cole going after the QB on every play, this is where he is best.
why would you want your backup and 3rd string qb to both be projects?
ITS OFFICIAL
Nick FOles leading NFL in passer rating w/a 127.9 rating. Peyton is 2nd at 118.3. The NFL record is Rodgers at 122.5 in 2011.
LETS GO NICK FOLES AND THE 1st PLACE PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Nick Foles is the starter and future for the Eagles. A game manager, which is what Barkley will be and a third string QB that pretty much plays the same role of game manager. They can either draft one in the 5th – 6th round or bring in a vet. Bringing in a vet would probably be the better choice. The 2014 draft is to valuable to the continued development of this team to waste on quarterbacks. We need a WR, OLB, safety, CB, O line and D line (depth). The Eagles will be picking mid first round probably. That’s where they can get a Mike Evans or a Kyle Van Noy. Sammy Watkins and Khalil Mack will be gone by the time the Eagles pick.They may lok at an O lineman by the time they draft their 1st pick.
barkley isnt good enough to be our 2nd stringer yet man i dont think he will ever be good enough either. im thinking he is out of the nfl within 5 years. if barkley is here next year we need a vet. if u cut barkley then yea you draft a qb and get a vet but either way u get a vet
QB’s Tavaris Jackson or Thaddeous Lewis could be the experience Vet, who costs little, and can run the Read-Option Offense of Chip Kelly’s..
then maybe bring in a undrafted QB to compete..
As far as the mock Drafts, Eagles are looking at around a #20th Draft Selection.. I still say they will grab DE/OLB Trent Murphy from Stanford (6-6 265lbs) or CB Ifo-Ekpre Olomu from Oregon (5-10 192lbs) or CB Jason Verrett from TCU (5-10 185lbs) or CB Darqueze Dennard from Michigan State (5-11 195lbs) or WR Jordan Matthews from Vanderbilt who at 6-3 205lbs could develop into that big target to replace Jeremy Maclin if he leaves the Eagles via Free-Agency.. Remember the Draft has been pushed back to Mid-May and Free-Agency is in Mid-late March to early April which is before the Draft so based on what Players Teams Sign or Lose in Free-Agency will determine many Draft Strategies, at least with some Early Round Picks where a Team may have a big need to replace a Player or Position..
Yes, Kelly has not been creative on his running plays or particularly common sense (as one poster stated, not having McCoy on the field when going for it on 4th &1)…The Eagles need to use more variety, including back sets, traps, slants etc…Also, running a shotgun for three plays, and then having the QB line up under center on a 4th & short tells the defense what??!!
As for ‘read option’ I watched the Baylor-Texas Tech game Saturday night and both teams ran this with success, Baylor scoring 60+ points…Very fast, no huddle, bang, bang, bang.
However, Kelly is finding out that this cannot be run on the pro level BECAUSE the players are paid too much money to work that hard…I think this is a year of adjustment for adjustment for Kelly finding what the players will tolerate and can handle.
I’m new to commenting here but been reading the comments since 2008. I think foles is becoming the future. An athletic qb would be nice for chip but it’s not necessary , I think you keep foles surrounded by great talent he can be brady like. Why would we draft another qb as a project if foles is what I think he will be than drafting another QB would be a waste. We have are project in Barkley , just add a veteran backup. Use draft picks for needed positions in both sides of the ball. I feel some people are just waiting for Foles to fail. I fell that from the media and commenters. The eagles are going to be a good team whith this coach and QB I believe. I live in MASS now and they think Foles and Kelly have something going.
welcome van! those people are gonna be waiting a long time for foles to fail… as i said immediately after the dallas game something was wrong with nick early in that game, he wasnt nick at all that game. still dont know what it was but it was something. need some detective to investigate.
A Souce of Songs stated that Foles had a “Flu Shot” on Sat before the Cowboy Game but Song’s didn’t want to tell anyone about it …
How any Super Bowls have athletic quarterbacks won again ?
The answer to that is probably…just one. Steve Young.
You are correct big moose. So why are some people so anxious to get one ?
Elway was no slouch either when it came to mobility. He could take off too.. ARodgers has good mobility as well
Great stuff here today guys- LOVING THIS…
1st place Eagles.
Foles looking GREAT
D playing well.
Team coming together,
When Foles stood back up after the shot he took….. man oh man!!
I want to give a HUGE shout out to Chip for his offseason conditioning. When B.C- our TE caught a screen and started running he looked like a normal every day TE…. but when he kicked on the after burners…. WOW…. anyone else credit Chip for getting that little burst out of him? can you EVER remember BC running like that before?
foles is a tough sob and is one of the many reasons the eagles drafted him. roseman has stated that one of the things the eagles loved about foles was that basically every play in his last year at az he got hit and he kept getting back up and firing
Stevo nice post! This other stuff is getting very old.
agreed. I’ve been sick of the simpleton QB all day talk for years. It takes a team and we are getting there my friend.
I think we will see the Eagles make a huge play for a pass rushing Monster for next season. Also a FS and a SS. I think Wolfe is the 3rd S and they will be using him alot. Boykin is adding LOTS in the secondary and he just makes plays period.
The young guys like Cox, Boykin, and Kendricks (missed him) are creating a core… going to be names we remember for a LONG time. All 3 play with heart. Carrie Williams has been a HUGE surprise for me. He is still running his mouth but is backing it up.
Stevo the fans, a lot of the posters and such have been spot on and have every right to not have wanted vick to lead their team anymore. he made to many mistakes, turnovers, didnt have killer instincts, choked a bunch , was always hurt and had horrible touch on his throws. it was a failed experience and it was a situation where a lot of us knew more than the coaches when it came to putting him behind center. but the day is here where we have a future behind center again and unless foles gives a reason there is no talk or controversy at that position (except from retards…) so the vick discussion is a wrap because his era here is.
number one priority for every NFL team is to have a legit QB, everything else on a football team comes second. we got that, now lets keep fighting this year, make the playoffs, win the division, eliminate the cowboys week 17 and then go into the draft getting better on D, O line and maybe WR
go birds.
mhnebski- im not taking the bate.
*bait
dtime. i agree and have been one of the people who have been involved in the other stuff but at this point its stupid. i dont need to talk about vick anymore he isnt our qb and nick foles has earned the right to be the captain of the ship and our qb in the future so mv7 is irrelevant.
chip lombardi has proved we can still run without vick, that we can still throw deep (and better) and all this other nonsense they said foles couldnt do has been done including rushing for 50 yards yesterday and 2 running tds this season (yesterdays was a tough run, great job foles!), and the fans proved their butts will stay in the seats even if vick isnt the qb (haaaaaaa)
5-1 with FOles keep it rolling!
Everybody jumping on the Foles bandwagon now, which tells you that fans should listen to way less talk radio, and study the games, plus a little bit of football history.
Foles has been very professional and efficient from jump street, but because he hasn’t been surrounded by media hype, people have been sucked in by all the clichés thrown around by media talking head idiots: i.e. ‘he’s not athletic’,
‘doesn’t look like a franchise QB’ and various BS nonsense…Foles is athletic, intelligent and a leader.
I believe Barkley will be a fine back up next year when he has time to get enough reps in training camp…He actually has the talent to be a starter: Look at the Green Bay 3rd stringer, the kid from Wisconsin…He’s a fine QB, but because of the numbers game, never got a chance to play until injuries came into the picture.
Eagles can spend a middle round pick for another back up, or get a journeyman vet…What became of Dennis Dixon?
meh… USC qb’s usually suck. Barkley needs to get some arm strength or he won’t cut it.
dennis dixon blows always has and always will, he got cut from the ravens practice squad last year…
anyways i hope your right about barkley but ive seen enough of him in college, preseason, and regular season to come away with the impression that he cant play in this league.
G has seen the light. Bout time.
mhenski
November 18, 2013 – 11:20 am
“Foles is a tough sob and is one of the many reasons the eagles drafted him. Roseman has stated that one of the things the eagles loved about foles was that basically every play in his last year at az he got hit and he kept getting back up and firing.”
Yeah, he’s a tough SOB, no doubt.
paulman
November 18, 2013 – 11:24 am
“A Souce of Songs stated that Foles had a “Flu Shot” on Sat before the Cowboy Game but Song’s didn’t want to tell anyone about it …”
If that isn’t a joke, it’s very interesting and a warning: Don’t take all these adulterated vaccines they’re pushing on the public today…Bad news.
Take a lot of Vitamin C instead: it’s water soluble, meaning your immune system absorbs the Vitamin C to do the job required, then you piss the rest out…I’m very serious.
Pharmaceutical companies hate it because they don’t have a patent on it, and it is inexpensive…It is even effective in IV form against some cancers.
frank he isnt serious bro. paul makes up stuff all the time, lmfoa
No he’s serious, because Songs is a f^#@ing nutjob. Didn’t you read some of his conspiracy theories, that the Government are intentionally poisoning kids with vaccines, for population control, & sterilizing adults, with Flu shots? Dude needs a padded cell!
All Pharmaceuticals are dangerous, & have side effects. That’s why everyone should go the homeopathic way, take vitamins, use natural cleanses, & eat more veggies, fruit & nuts.
Very true frankd. My gf who is a nurse has been telling me this for yrs. Stay away from flu shots!!
***NFL Trade Rumor to be announced after the Season***
KC Chiefs Send QB Alex Smith, OT Brendan Albert and their 3rd Round Draft Pick to the for Eagles QB Nick Foles and WR J Avant
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lmfao
Big Red said after his first loss last night “get me Avant!”
Mike Vick had an Eagles baseball hat on yesterday, Brim straight no bend, logo straight no tilt. A little boring but in two weeks Mike will be showcasing some cold weather options.
🙂
that made me chuckle.
Watched DVR of Eagle/ Washington game. Fox Network was very kind to RG3 yesterday, They suppressed his QB stats all game until that fullback touchdown.
eagles0superbowls
November 18, 2013 – 12:52 pm
“Watched DVR of Eagle/ Washington game. Fox Network was very kind to RG3 yesterday, They suppressed his QB stats all game until that fullback touchdown.”
RG3 is a brand name, so they want to sell him.
Foles is not a brand name, and besides RG3 is better looking than Foles, right? [—))
Chip Kelly just said that he expects Vick to be back healthy after the bye week. He said when both QBs are healthy he will sit down with them and tell them who the starter is going to be…
No big surprise, I figured that’s how he would do it. That’s what Reid did when Vick took Kolb’s job. He told the players first, then the media. I just don’t know what can happen over a bye week to change the eventual decision…
LOL everybody knows who the starter is including those two guys, nothing to see there.
You don’t put a guy on the bench with 16 TD’s and no picks.
You wouldn’t think…
I could see jagoff Andy going back to Vick , no other coach tho
It’s not an issue….Kelly’s criteria for a good starting QB is getting touchdowns and not turning the ball over. It’s clear that only one QB on this roster meets that criteria.
Irish we may see Vick in some situational packages to keep him involved but I think he’s matured enough to be ready if needed. No need to change anything right now.
i dont for the same reason you stated nick wont go to the bench you just cant take nick off the field ever.
YO PAULMAN
As an fyi in the yahoo fantasy league that you quit (total man law violation) you just clinched a playoff birth
I am on 2 Gobb Fantasy Teams and struggling after fast starts (6-4 on both Teams) I lost my password and never tapped into the Yahoo league..
Maybe I do make a better GM than Coach afterall… Ha ha
ive been setting your roster tho. next time dont join if ur gonna quit, it kind of screws over the other 9 people
Keep picking them,, ,
@DCar its a proven fact that vaccines are as deadly as what they are trying to protect u from. Fact. The levels of mercury in vaccines are astonishing. Another fact the teenage girl HPV shot is causing teenage girls to become sterile, and causing other girlie shit….here’s just one.
http://www.naturalnews.com/041897_mmr_vaccines_autism_court_ruling.html
Not to change the Subject, but Since I live IN NC, the Patriots/Panthers appears to be a pretty good match-up for Monday Night and is probably the biggest game Panthers have played at Home in about 5 Season so the Town and Team are Pumped.. Patriots coming off a Bye-Week and rested and 2 weeks to Prepare for Newton & Company is not good news for the Panthers but I am interested in seeing the Panthers Front 7 get in and hit Brady around some which I think they will…
Eagles are poised to make a run
I had my doubts about Kelly, probably because of his allegiance to a failed experiment at quarterback, but man
Ever since foles started again following his return from injury it is a far different eagles team
The defense is also playing great, some of these picks, signings on defense look very solid, cox, Logan, Barwin, a great surprise, even Nate Allen playing solid
The defensive coordinator has a plan, and it is obvious the players are buying in
The chip Kelly era has finally arrived, it’s a new day in eagles land, and it’s all good
Foles is still developing. he ain’t there yet and is gonna experience many more growing pains until we fully can see what he’s got. The next 2 teams present huge challenges for him, and I am uncertain as what to expect due to his green-ness in the NFL (not to mention his coach’s). Hang on; this is gonna be quite a ride.
Agreed Jim chunk, but his limited sample size bodes well
He’s not the only one
The eagles need cooper to remain
a big man one on one target
Other offensive players also need to grow, the young lineman, shady needs to stay focused
But all in all it’s the most optimistic real eagles fans can and should be in a long, long time
ANd deafening silence among skayne, tsjohnson, real talk, concrete marley et al, who wanted foles to fail in this huge divisional game, they were ready to pounce, now they reveal their true colors, cock roaches, not eagles fans, good, they are done
Yo, JakeBitch….
Do I have to show my allegiance to this team by posting on here every damn day, like some of you cats without a life? Sorry man, I got alot of things going on, more than supporting my Eagles…actually missed the Eagles game this weekend, cuz my son was playing in his pop warner state championship game…So don’t call me out on some bullshit…because I’m not on here praising Foles like the rest of you! I’m happy Foles is doing well, the Eagles are winning…But this site, GCobb doesn’t define if I’m a fan or not! Real Talk!
also when did Realtalk ever wish for Foles to fail? I do recall making a bet saying Vick would win the starting job in training camp, is that wishing for Foles to fail? I think not! ..Never been at Foles like you cats have done with Vick..you have much nerve, you lil bitch! in fact change your name to pussycatJake!
Jake don’t make me laugh with you tomfoolery. Show me one post where I ever said something bad about nick Foles. I dare you. Don’t lump me in with the Foles haters. I like nick Foles and said so last season and this season. I just don’t like you! Your a lowlife scumbag as I’ve said on many occasions. The village idiot is who you are and will always be. I am a true eagles fan and have been way more optistic about his team than a lot of posters. Even DCar and company wil attest to that. So get your facts straight before u run your mouth.
Foles looked good again and I enjoy his chemistry with Cooper. We need them to continue to have that connection. Shady ran well once again and he is really barking up the best RB in Eagles history ladder if he can continue to perform like this for 2-3 more years. It was important to get that home win and Shady set the tone for how the attitude needed to be when he ripped that Redskins banner down. Enough was enough. The fans came out and was pumped early and made it a point to be loud an disruptive. I thank Desean for saying what needs to be said about our fandom and Foles for having the cities attention that it was heard by all. Something about the truth even if you don’t agree with it the fact that you hear it makes you check yourself I thought the fans did that yesterday. I still think it would be a good idea to select a QB next year. Foles will no doubt be the starter, and unless you have plans of Vick as a veteran backup I would like to see a versatile option for Kelly’s offense incase Foles gets hurt. They can sit for years but that insurance is important. Barkley can continue to earn his spot and the new guy can even be the third string coming in. Instead of taking a Mariota or Manzel grab a Braxton Miller late or that kid fro NIU who is tough as nails. Nobody would cry for them to get in they can learn to be NFL caliber passers I know for sure Miller have the arm and they both are flat out winners which you need in the locker room.
G ….all I want to know is if the highest rated Qb in the NFL looks more and more like our guy ? What does the real deal look like …perhaps he wears a cape and possesses super powers …His touch pass to shady ,.in stride was cape like …his throw across the field to the tight end ..normally scary and a recipe for disaster ,was spot on ..he has his jersey in canton after throwing 7 touchdowns ..his ratings are sick …he has had 3games of a rating taht hasn’t been surpassed since 1960 and to you ,he looks more and more like our guy..You think? Are you watching games on black and white with rabbit ears ? Try high def …look at the smiles on eagles fans ,and players and coaches ..He is the man ,not the guy ..he’s not pedestrian ,he’s special ,put him up on the mantel ,he’s got a defense that is installing fear in other players …there are tackles all over the field ,when last year year we were a wide nine ,of arm tacklers …give the coaches ,the fans the offense ,the special teams and the philly dee …. Kudos ,you’re a closet cowboy fan and with conspiracy theories of late …stay out of the book depository …your just a patsy !
nick foles is the eagle qb for at least the next ten years, and he will be one of the greatest to ever play the game, the greatest ever to wear an eagles uniform , and he will lead the eagles to glory, multiple super bowls, that’s how great he is and will become
Jake I’m with you broth a….the nay Sayers are deafening quiet ….Foles is a work in progress …but I will say ,my eyes don’t lie ,we have a commodity and a coach who was a foe in college ,who took this job for many reasons ,but high on his list was his respect for Nick Foles…he was smart to start Vick knowing he was fragile ,knowing full well it was a matter of time that the QB issue would answer itself..Now being a class act ,he will give Vick the respect he desires ,and I wouldn’t discount ,coach from finding ways to utilize Vick in some offensive sets …there a bright future for this squad ,and I’m just thrilled to be a witness …the Linc is alive again ,nega delphians are muted by coach Kelly …Go Birds ….gobble gobble up the league …Yo Adrian I did it ..in the parade
OMG even the haters have to indulge me on this one. Ok so what would be the perfect scenario for a coach like Chip Kelley whose offense is based on the run from the RB, AND the QB? Check this; in today’s NFL, you need at least 2-3 RB’s on the depth chart to spell your main back Because they take a beating. If Chip is as smart as we think he is isn’t it plausible to think that he may have the same concept at QB? It’s possible. If you watch his press conference it sounds like he clearly intends to play Vick when healthy. If a healthy RESTED Michael Vick comes in and is fired up about the stellar perfoamce he saw from the bench…….. Gentleman……. We could have the most exciting QB battle in the history of the fucking league! IM JUST SAYING!!!!!!! Maybe Chip keeps two dynamic QB’s who are willing to share time for the duration. Don’t think any same QB with a 114.00 passer rating would do it, but hey would he put up those kinds of numbers elsewhere?
Theone, Vick is finished. Why even bring up his name anymore? Chip Kelly is not an idiot. I would fear for Chip’s life if he started Vick over Foles right now.
Well, Uh….. I wouldn’t make such assertions or threats. Did you watch his press conference ? You should. AND ANY ONE ELSE bEFORE YOU COMENT! Download the Eagles App or go to philadelphiaeagles.com
Chips criteria for a Quaterback is simple,make touchdowns and don’t turn the ball over. Sounds more like Foles to me. Kelly will sit down with Nick and Vick and explain why he will continue to start Nick, who has been the dynamic QB….but you said two dynamic QB’s. Who would the other be? No QB battle in the 11th week. It’s OVER!!! Just like Mike took Kolb’s job because he performed better,Foles has returned the favor. LOL, let it go man….it’s not only silly, but a joke to keep hoping for a Vick resurrection. Not a hater either, cheered Mike on when he won the QB competition, cheered for him last year and in 2011…It’s just time to move on to the future. The Vick experience isn’t taking us anywhere we haven’t already been. More turnovers and injuries. No thanks!
where did you get that “he clearly intends to play Vick when healthy”. I heard a reporter ask him if it was silly at this point to have him state a starting QB when he has a guy with 16td and 0 ints, and Kelly replied “yes”.
Great win on Sunday, go Birds!
Guys… relax and enjoy the show…why oh why are u in such a rush?
Yes… looks great. Yes… ordering my jersey… yes… it would be great if we could draft best player aval…. looks like a done deal. Lets just watch it play out. The sky is the limit for this guy… im saying my prayerz.
Not to change bears, but doesn’t everyone just love watching Tom Brady and Bill Beliche lose.. What a Monday Night Game, was like a Playoff Game
Do ‘t spell on the the Panthers, they are playing some good, tough, physical and smart football right now.. The NFC is getting real interesting with the riding Eagłes, Panthers, Cardinals, Giants and the struggling 49ers & Packers
It’s wide ass open..
Actually Paulman as much as I do savor a Patriots loss I was hoping they would come through and make the Panthers 6-4.
Two weeks for Nicky Dynamite to prepare for the redbirds. We must beat the cardinals at home to begin separating from the pack.
It was so awesome to see slants and wheel routes thrown where a guy could catch it in stride and hit the afterburners for yards after the catch.
Pull for the Giants to beat Dallas (Not sacrilege as My second favorite team = anyone playing Dallas)
TS must be glowing this morning.
Funny, how all of the Idol worshipers, are conveniently MIA! HMMMMMM!!!! Where is Songs, skayne, godgotvick, koolbreeze, coldbrewski at?
DCar what you fail to realize is that it wasn’t just us fans on here that thought Vick should be the starter it was most of the football world.Hell Chip Kelly thought Vick should be the starter. He resigned him, he gave him the job in preseason, he started him week 1. So to single out the fans who agreed with Chip is stupid. Every former player said Vick was the guy, all analyst etc. Vick didn’t lose his job to poor play he lost his job to Foles who has played lights out. That simple. Foles is the man.Saying all that and the way Vick has handled this I wouldn’t mind Vick being the veteran backup to Foles moving forward until the Birds develop a viable option to back Foles up. Looks like Vick is mature enough to handle that. Of course he has to agree to a reduced salary moving forward and know his role. But having Vick as his backup I would be fine with. Can you think of a better backup in the NFL?
Dag, Not everybody thought Vick should be re-signed and given the starting job. Many people, including Kelly, knew that it was just a matter of time before Vick was injured.
In fact, the only coach in the NFL that would have made the choice to re-sign Vick was Chip Kelly. No other coach would have signed him after the year he had in 2012, and with his injury history.
For Kelly to start Michael Vick and run him like he was a 23 year-old rookie was the dumbest thing Kelly has done in his pro career, to date.
dagg, you are as clueless as they come. Nobody but the idol worshipers thought it was a good idea to bring him back, nor even wanted him. After he went down last year, it was a forgone conclusion, that he was gone. It was a stupid mistake bringing him back,
He’s old, fragile, injury prone, & not a good QB. Period, end of story. Who cares anyways, his days are over?
It is rather comical at how conspicuously inconspicuous they are. That says a lot. If Foles would have played poorly or the Eagles would have lost it would be never ending I told you so’s on here from the We Worship at the Alter of Vick Crew!
Resigning Vick is a must IMO. I definetly would resign Vick to a contract for 2 years as a backup. Don’t want to go into next year with Barkley as Foles backup or a Ponder or Skelton type QB. Vick knows the system, is friends with Foles and looks like he is a good soldier. No QB controversy Foles is the man. Vick knows the system and a veteran backup is needed until the Eagles develop a young QB behind Foles. Don’t want to go into next year with Barkley 1 hit away from being starter.
To much of a distraction to have Vick here next year. I do not believe he is interested in a backup role so he will look for employment somewhere he has an opportunity to start.. He (Vick) has pretty much stated that he knows Foles is the guy now. There just comes a point when the relationship must come to an end. That time will be at the end of the season. Seriously, if the Eagles wanted to resign him, they would have probably started extension talks, you know how they operate when they want to keep a player in his last year contract.
It would be a distraction to who? The nitwit posters on GCobb? The idiots on WIP? The media? I don’t think you guys realize the respect Kelly has for Vick. Now what can’t happen is Kelly messing with Foles confidence going forward. He has to play knowing that 2 turnovers or 3 bad quarters gets him the hook. None of that high school Harry running in different packages for the QB’s either.
I agree Dag unless there is a viable and by viable I mean a legit prospect that slips in the draft, and Barkley slipped because he’s a stiff. Otherwise he comes back plays the good soldier and gives that veteran presence. We all seem to forget losing your job due to injury isn’t the same as losing your job due to bad play.
i tried to watch the monday night NFL football game but ESPN was slobbering all over the screen with Kuechly love and I’m not so sure the fluid was saliva –
If Vick plays anywhere next year he’s going to whoever pays him the most money. That’s the only consideration at this point in his career.
As far as keeping him here in Philly…naw. We have a backup in Barkley and I’m still not convinced they don’t draft a guy next year. Vick is too big a presence to have as a back up to a young QB trying to make his mark on the team. And Vick will likely retire before he takes on permanent backup status.
that his little stump fragile body has a shelf life of less than 12 quarters now –
old weak liar and criminal
NOBODY WANTS THAT
You might be right TS, but I get a sense he likes it here and would consider taking on a back up role. Last night do you pick up that flag? I think if you throw that flag you make the call. Was it catchable probably not but I’ve seen worse calls then that.
BigLion food for thought –
Michael Crabtree was held by Jimmy Smith in the end zone to end the superbowl —
Now that was PI ball was right there call should have been made. Last night flag should’ve never been thrown.
He likes it here, but not enough to sign on as a backup. Listen to what he says…he’s clear that he believes he’s starting material he also recognizes that injury is what will likely keep him out of the starting line up.
Vick isn’t going to be anyone’s backup. Particularly a guy he outplayed when healthy – and honestly it’s not fair to Foles to have the shadow of Vick around. It needs to be his team, that’s hard to do with Vick still on the roster whether he’s starting or not.
Vick will retire first before he takes on backup status. Unless he’s a REALLY well paid backup and even then that’s pushing it.
” Last night do you pick up that flag? I think if you throw that flag you make the call. Was it catchable probably not but I’ve seen worse calls then that.”
It was the right call. The ball wasn’t catchable. Lester was in front of Gronk so the idea that Gronk was gonna come back to the ball was silly. The story should be that Brady under threw the ball, or there was miscomm between Brady and Gronk, ’cause Gronk went to the back of the endzone and the ball was at the front.
That was a good game though. I for sure thought the Pats were gonna win. Panthers are def a legit force to be reckoned with in the NFC now.
Panthers are a good football team. They have 2 left with the Saints they are going to be wars.
Yeah. Those games are gonna be brutal. Should be fun to watch.
Wait a damn minute is Sean McDermott still the DC in Carolina? LOL
Yes. Yes he is. lol
tsjohnson — you are half right; the headline should have been “Robert Lester intercepts under thrown Brady pass in end zone to end game.” ESPN was disrespecting the Carolina Panther secondary all pre game with the front 7 is so good but the Panther secondary is weak. Well Robert Lester snuffed out the great Brady for a pick and the ref, brady, kuechly, gronkowski, belichek are all being mentioned before Robert Lester ( great play by the safety)
I agree TS. Vick is gonna look to start and there should be a market for him.
Bugs you think they’ll be a market for him? Because of his injury history I think it’s back up time for him if he wants to continue his career after this year.
I did before this last injury. It’s his health that will keep him from starting. If not for that though he would be starting somewhere. Look at Palmer. And Kolb before injury. But yeah it’s the injury. If he does start it will definitely be an incentive laden contract based on the sanps he takes similar to the one he has now.
I do Big. I think that people will be concerned about his history, but he will put butts in the seats. Guys that are much worse than him are still getting looks. I think it would be a mistake to bring him back here.
“but he will put butts in the seats.”
Don’t say that. Mhenski will get you.
sarcasm ts, cmon. but along those lines, i could care less about vick anymore, he is no longer the captain of this ship and really thats all I I wanted was for my team to turn their back on him as the captain because his history told me we would never move forward with him.
nick foles is tearing up the nfl and our team looks great and poised to make a run! i know you arent sold on foles and thats ok but i feel confident you will jump on board eventually pending your allegiance is to the eagles not vick.
by the way great call on the eagles win this passed weekend ts and happy holidays.
There is virtually no Market for VIck at this point of his Career..
A young rebuilding Team or Franchise (Jags,Bucs,Vikings, Raiders,Browns,BIlls etc who are all not very close to being Playoff Teams or 1 Player away where Vick makes a difference so there is o sense in bringing in a 33-34 often injured QB to lead your Franchise..
The Only Teams would be a Veteran Team that incurs an injury at QB Position and feels they are a competent QB away from making a run… Could a Team like the Bears (if they lose Cutler to Free-Agency be interested, or a Team like the Texans who may clean house after the train wreck of this 2013 Season for them or th eFalcons if Matt Ryan were injured.. All possible, but probably not likely, but who knows, next Summer any Team could sustain an Injury (Wilson in Seattle, Flacco in Baltimore, Stafford in Detroit and may have to go out to find an experiences QB) but the likeliehood that a Team will go out and look for Mike Vick to be a Back-Up just doesn’t make sense.. Usually in Football, when a consistent, long-term Starting QB loses his skills and gets demoted to a back-up Status, their Careers are generally over.. Look at D McNabb, Jake Delhomme, Phill SImms,etc,etc..These guys don’t hang around to be Back-ups.. There’s a big Difference between a Journeyman Career Back-up QB (Kyle Orton, Jon Kinta, Luke McCown,Charlie Batch) and a Former long-Term Starter trying to convert into a Back-Up is a Special Skill and more Mental about the approach — It’s like a PH in Baseball, it’s a Special Skill and typically Players who have had productive Careers as a solid Pinch Hitter ones that have studied, honed their craft etc,etc and generally not the Regular Every-day Players who get moved to that role as they get older and trying to adjust to part-time player..
I believe Vick will get a Job with the NFL as a “Mentor-Conduit for Younger Players” who have maybe lost their way with off-the field issues and to keep things real for the Players & the NFL and would be a great way for the NFL to show that it cares about the welfare of it’s PLayers and who else could be a Poster-Boy/Player for this important need and service by many of it’s young PLayers..
Chip Kelly could still be determined to run his zone/read offense with a mobile quarterback. Most of league has abandoned the idea because defenses have for the most part stopped it, and quarterbacks are too valuable to have running 12 times/game.
But if Kelly wants a mobile quarterback Foles could be traded. In that case a mobile quarterback would be drafted and Vick could very well stay in Philly.
You never know what could happen when you are dealing with an ego like Kelly’s
All the Foles fans should not count your chickens… I know I’m not confident of Kelly’s decision.
Irish Chip doesnt have down syndrome bro, Foles isnt getting traded. Chip runs a pro offense this isnt a gimmick system. The guy wants to win and Nick is winning and murdering the NFL. Get real dude. Howie is making that call anyway not Chip.
Let’s hope so…. I’m not as confident as you.
There is no way I see Vick coming back to this team. And if Chip had any confidence in Vick before the season, he wouldn’t be the only QB on the roster who is not on the books for next year. That should tell you all you need to know. I don’t see him getting a starting job either..he just isn’t good enough and is the most injury prone QB in the league.
Maybe 2nd/3rd string in the right place or Canada. Im sure he would take that before he retires…I mean how else is Marcus going to eat
mike will take any contract he can get until their are no offers coming his way. he went through a lot of money and will take whatever he can get until he cant get anymore because there wont be any jobs for him after football
speaking of marcus vick. recent tweets
Marcus Vick @MVFive 50m
I’m to old to be hanging, chilling and cooling. If we not discussing money or strategies wtf are we doing? U know what….. #GHoST
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Greg Greenberg @GoingGREENberg 47m
@MVFive how much of an allowance does Mike give you? #Parasite
Marcus Vick @MVFive
He’s back…… RT @RICK_HAWK_BACK: I told that bitch “baby I’m Rick Hawk, I get a $40 manicure” lol
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thehatman757 @BIGGAINMGMT 35m
@MVFive WHATS GOOD NEPHEW U BETTER THAN HALF THE STARTING QB’S IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU GONNA COMEBACK AND PLAY AGAIN YOU STILL GOT IT!
I hear you Irish, but the only way that scenario even remotely plays out is if Foles does a complete 180 and so far we see no evidence that will happen, he fits very well with this offense. Not being mobile isn’t that big of an issue.
Big, I just read an article in the NJ The Star-Ledger about Chip Kelly contradicting himself. (Google search – “Chip Kelly contradicting himself”)
Anyways, it’s about Kelly, and how he always talks about changing the offense to suite the quarterback’s skills. This week Kelly even referred to John Fox and how he tailored the offense one way for Tebow and another way for Manning.
The author points out that Kelly always talks about it, but he never really changes the offense for any of the quarterbacks. Which I believe is true….
To me it’s a sign that Kelly will bend his offense a little bit, but he wont give in totally to the idea of a pocket passer.
I think if he keeps Foles he will have to stop running him 8-9 times a game.
Andy Reid lost again after bye week — LOL
Aaron Hernandez, Gronkowski biggot remarks, Talib starting fights with Steve Smith, Marcus Cannon using karate on elite pass rushers knee caps ———
when is the Patriots going to be called out for being a THUG organization
Even though the bye gives guys like Kendricks, Peters, Wolff and others a chance to get healthy, I hope it doesn’t screw up the flow we got going right now.
Even though we wont win the Superbowl this year, think about how great of a season this COULD be for real Eagles fans…
1-we may have our next young franchise QB (which is the most important thing we could get out of this season since were just not good enough to have serious SB chances…Foles is playing great football keep proving the frauds wrong)
2-we may go from worst to first and get a division championship behind our young QB and new NFL coach in his first year
3-we may have a solid defense building right before our eyes around some young talent we drafted the past 2 years…Boykin, Cox, Kendricks, Wolff, Logan, Curry and some free agents in Ryans/Barwin…when was the last time we could say that with Reid about the defense…drafting/FA all playing well together.
Could be a great season
and to make it even better is we started 1-4 so if we recover from that and make the playoffs we will have a fuck ton of momentum going into the playoffs where anything can and does happen. and regardless of playoff outcomes we would be going into next year with an entirely different attitude and culture… we are one of the youngest team teams, which means we have a lot of room to grow!
the future is fucking bright!
Michael Vick has a lot of football left in him. If he’s not here next year, he wont have a problem getting a job elsewhere as a starting QB. If he wants to come back here as a backup he will be welcomed with open arms. MV7 has been a huge help for NFoles, giving him advice and guidance I’m hearing… He could even come back as the Eagles QB coach, but like I said he has a few years left as a starting caliber QB. This is one of the reasons why Foles hasn’t been handed the keys yet..
Ok, I really think a lot of people are beyond help in some of there postings. Delusional self assuring denial, not based in reality. It’s a bye week so Im taking the bye off from arguing with them. Im just gonna laugh cause thats all you can do sometimes. Bye week first place…Nice.
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THINKING THE SAME THING
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John hart, are you serious, mike Vick as a quarterbacks coach, that’s the damnedest thing I ever read on here
Its a strong possibility jake. Hes a good teacher. That’s not something out of the question. Though you guys on here think he’s an idiot, the current coaches and players don’t.. They have a lot of respect for him.. Anything is possible..
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I don’t know who drives me more insane, Lil Bron-Bron Jon, or Numbnuts havenoclue. At least havenoclue, has some sense with some issues.
It’s a Bye man lol…..let the crazies have their time. In this thread alone I read about 30 posts that made me worry about what glue they are sniffing. My sources say they are off their meds.
X, that’s some funny $#!T! XD
**Eagles News**
Michael Vick, Mychal Kendicks among others that were banged up all practiced.
Earl Wolff was present but did not participate. According to my source, Wolff may be out until December 8th if not longer.
Earl Wolfe is a big lose because Chung was getting rolled over by Alfred Morris and was/is a sub par replacement. Najah Goode played well replacing Kendricks and Roc Carmichael was a pleasant surprise replacement for Fletcher.
The two guys we need back right now are Fletcher and Wolff. The only reason we won that game Sunday was because of the front 7 creating pressure upfront. That secondary had its good moments but that last drive revealed some glaring weaknesses back there. They need Fletcher and Wolff back now in order to sure up that already weak secondary..
This practice took place today for all who were wondering
**More Eagles News**
I’m being told that Mychal Kendricks plans to play against the Arizona Cardinals
no rush, Najee Goode looks, good.
I agree but Kendricks wants back because though him losing his job is nowhere in jeopardy, hes a young competitve guy I’m sure he feels that he has something to prove and will try and separate himself more than ever from Najee..
It’s amzaing to see how quickly some players can heal when they feel a threaten about losing their Spot which I am not saying is the case with Kendricks who is overall having a nice Season.. Najee Good has gotten alot of Snaps and has made some nice Plays which just strengthens the Teams Depth and Experience which is a good thing.. as has Roc Carmichael… Bottom line, a good solid Defense doesn’t not have be filled with All-Pro’s .. It needs to work as one unit and have player buy in and cover each other and attaack the ball and line of scrimmage which is not what we saw with the Eagles Defense in quite some time..(Since JJ’s Time)