DeSean Jackson
Jackson enjoyed the best season of his career in 2014. No longer restricted by the predictable and stale playcalling of Andy Reid, Jackson flourished in Chip Kelly’s offense, setting career-highs in receptions (82) and yardage (1,332) and tied his career-high in touchdowns (9).
Unlike previous seasons, Jackson didn’t go through stretches where he would disappear. It was the first time that we’ve seen DeSean sustain a high level of play and production in almost every game of a regular season. We also saw him develop a little more mental toughness, and respond well even when things weren’t going well for him on the field.
The best example of this occurred in the playoff game against the Saints. Jackson wasn’t a factor until midway through the third quarter, but made a tremendous catch that really changed the flow of the game and helped spark the Eagles’ comeback. The 40-yard reception set up the first touchdown, and on the next drive DeSean drew a critical pass interference penalty that gave the Eagles a first and goal on the one.
Chip Kelly did a great job utilizing Jackson, and found a number of different ways to move him around and get him the ball. For example, instead of just sending DeSean down the field, often times, we’d see Jackson run short routes out of the backfield that resulted in some effective plays.
However, Jackson’s great 2013 ended on a sour note when it became known that the speedy wideout is looking for yet another new contract just two years after he redid his deal.
DeSean implied that a holdout could happen if a new deal isn’t reached. “I definitely feel it’s something deserving,” Jackson said. “We’ll see how that plays out, and hopefully we can work things out smoothly and not have to worry about anything out of the ordinary.”
Jackson clearly believes he should be given a new deal, and its a story to keep an eye on over the off-season. The last time DeSean got involved in a contract dispute with the front office, it got pretty ugly. The front office wouldn’t meet the wideout’s demands, and DeSean turned in a miserable, disinterested season in 2011. Jackson gave poor effort throughout the season, and came dangerously close to earning himself a ticket out of town.
What will the Eagles do this time around? When Jackson’s head is together and focused on football, he brings a great deal to the table. His speed and big play ability bring a critical dimension to this offense, and with the statuses of Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin uncertain, the Eagles really need to keep in line. The best move for the front office would be just to pay the man and nip this problem before it grows into something else. Hopefully the absence of Joe Banner will prevent things from turning ugly this time.
Riley Cooper
Cooper was one of the team’s strongest breakout players in 2013, filling the hole left by Jeremy Maclin admirably with 47 receptions for 835 yards and eight touchdowns.
Cooper finally learned to use his size to his advantage, and help create separation between himself and opposing defenders. The young wideout came down with some huge receptions that helped change the outcome of a number of games.
He caught a 47-yard touchdown against Tampa Bay. He hauled in a 63-yarder against the Raiders. He came down with a 44-yard score against Green Bay. In the snow bowl against Detroit, Cooper caught a critical 44-yard reception that helped break the offense out of their funk. These aren’t hollow numbers that Cooper produced. These are big plays in big moments.
Most importantly, Cooper has developed an excellent rapport with Nick Foles. The chemistry between these two is strong, and Foles trusts Cooper to go up and come down with important passes.
Now Cooper is set to be a free agent, and after enjoying such a strong season, he’s going to draw interest from plenty of other teams.
However, I don’t think any team is going to give Cooper crazy money. He’s shown he can be a competent role player, but nothing more. I don’t think teams are going to get carried away with their interest in Riley, and I believe there’s enough mutual interest from both parties to keep the big wideout in Philadelphia.
Jeremy Maclin
Another big decision for the Eagles to make.
Before going down for the season in August, there was a lot of optimism that Maclin could be the guy that would flourish more so than any other wideout in Chip Kelly’s system. Now, the former first-round pick stands a great unknown heading into next season.
The Eagles have an advantage over other teams because of their familiarity with Maclin, and because Maclin himself has stated on several occasions that he’d love to show what he can do in Kelly’s system. Its in the best interest of both parties for the wideout to return on a one-year “prove-it” deal.
Maclin is still young and talented enough that he’ll get some looks in free agency. Andy Reid could certainly use another productive receiver in Kansas City. But similar to Riley Cooper, I think teams won’t give Maclin crazy money and that ultimately he’ll return to Philadelphia.
Jason Avant
Before Training Camp, it appeared that Avant faced long odds to make the team.
He wasn’t viewed as an ideal fit for Kelly’s system, and with a number of interesting young receivers in camp at the time (Greg Salas, Jeff Maehl, Damaris Johnson, Arrellious Benn, etc), it looked as though the end of Avant’s Philadelphia tenure was near.
However, injuries to Maclin and Benn combined with further instability created from the Riley Cooper situation changed the team’s plans and made it much more important for them to keep Avant around.
And Avant ended up making a really good impression on the new coaching staff. The 30-year old finished with 38 receptions for 447 yards and two touchdowns. But he really drew praise from Kelly for the other aspect that he brought to the table.
Avant is a guy that you want on your team. A solid role player who is willing to do anything to help the squad achieve victory. He’s a solid blocker, he’s willing to play special teams, and he’s a respected presence in the locker room.
However, Avant still isn’t a lock to return in 2014. His contract calls for him to make over $4 million in 2014, which is pretty pricey for a fourth receiver. But the Eagles won’t be in any hurry to release him, especially with the uncertainty concerning Cooper and Maclin.
Jeff Maehl
The former Oregon Duck played sparingly, catching just four passes for 67 yards and one touchdown.
He may be given a chance to stick around next year as well, but he’ll need to show some solid growth over the off-season.
His biggest contribution came in Oakland, where he made a 19-yard reception on a third and long to keep a drive alive that eventually led to a touchdown.
Brad Smith
Acquired halfway through the year, Smith primarily contributed as a special teamer.
He’ll be in the mix for a spot in 2014, and his speed and versatility will be enough to hold Kelly’s interest.
However, I didn’t like that Kelly tried to force some Wild Cat plays into the offense for Smith several times during the year. The Wild Cat hasn’t snuck up on anybody since 2008. It’s been tried, and it proved to be nothing more than a gimmick that had a one-year shelf life in the NFL. It also seems to be counter intuitive to what Kelly wants to do with his offense…for a guy who runs a system based on speed, rhythm, and operating as quick and efficiently as possible, putting the fast-paced attack on hold in favor of slowing everything down to get this special package on the field just doesn’t seem like its worth the time or effort in practice during the week.
Damaris Johnson
Back in the preseason, Johnson looked like he could potentially be one of the most improved Eagles.
He looked absolutely electric as a return man, but quickly fizzled out as the season began. He cost the Eagles in the Kansas City game by muffing a punt in the first quarter and setting the Chiefs up with an early redzone opportunity, and was slowly phased out of the lineup after that moment.
He spent the majority of the year as a healthy scratch, losing his gameday spot to guys like Jeff Maehl and Brad Smith.
Johnson has some interesting raw talent, but he quickly fell out of favor here and he’ll have to catch on with a another team to try and harness that potential.
Final Thoughts/Possible Changes/Free Agent Additions
Wide Receiver is the only position on the offensive side of the ball that has serious questions going into the offseason, and the Eagles could address it in a number of ways.
I believe the best thing for the team to do is to keep things stable by redoing DeSean Jackson’s deal, re-signing Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin, and maybe look to add some talent through the draft in the third round and on to phase out guys like Maehl, Smith, and Johnson.
There aren’t a lot of great names available through free agency.
Eric Decker is probably the best name out there, but he’s going to command a pretty significant deal and I think he’s been helped tremendously by the presence of Peyton Manning along with playing alongside great wideouts like Demaryius Thomas and Wes Welker, and I wouldn’t pay him like a top receiver.
Beyond Decker, there’s nothing but a lot of mediocre talent (the Tedd Ginns, Darrius Heyward-Beys, and Robert Mecheams of the world) or aging veterans that don’t have a lot left (Anquan Boldin, Plaxico Burress, Brandon Stokely, etc).
If Eagles resign both Riley Cooper & Jeremy Maclin as expected
then not much else will change with WR Corp except a pay-cut for Avant
and mid-late Round Draft Pick- but with Benn, Momah, Maehl,Smith,D Johnson, BJ Cunningham, they have plenty of Experience to figure out the 4th/5th WR spots
Now if Eagles don’t re-sign Cooper or Maclin, then I expect the Eagles to use a high Draft Pick (First 3 Rounds) to Draft a Receiver. This is one of the Deepest WR Drafat Classes in some time so the Eagles will make Offers to both Cooper & Maclin, but they won’t be for huge $$$ and Cooper & Maclin better decide quickly or Eagles will move on..
I do believe re-signing Cooper is more critical for his rapport and chemistry with Foles and the fact that Cooper has never missed a game where Maclin is more athletic, but is injured a lot, softer and plays no Special Teams..
resigning Cooper is a must in my opinion,but again, not at crazy $$$$
You already know how I feel
Eagles won’t be able to afford both Maclin and Cooper — FA wide receivers have been striking it rich lately.
Not this year they won’t .. With a very Deep Draft Class of really good WR’s with some recent High-Priced Deals the last few Years of not really working out for many Teams
Take a look at Percy Harvin, Mike Wallace, Greg Jennings, Wes Welker,Sidney Rice, etc,etc.. none of these Teams got equal value back for the amount of $$$ they Signed these Players for
Many teams are going to less inclined to throw around big $$$ for a WR who has a break out Season or coming off injury like Cooper & Maclin..
The only way the Eagles Sign both Cooper & Maclin is Avant takes substantial Paycut of flat out gets released and use some of his $4.6 Million due in 2014 to spread over Cooper & Maclin… That’s the smart solution as far as Salary Cap Management goes ..
They will sign both Cooper, and Maclin……period
gmc, if they do, they are stupid. Maclin needs to go. He is an underachieving, fragile, wuss, who falls to the ground, &/or gets hurt, every damn time he catches a pass. See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya! Avant needs to go too. Dude is practically useless, at what he makes. Re-sign Cooper, & draft a WR in the 1st 3 rounds, depending on what FA players they sign in FA. Also they can get Brandon Coleman, & DeAnthony Thomas in rounds 5-6.
Although Thomas is a RB, they can use him as a younger, faster version, of Brad Smith. And Thomas is a legit return man.
It They draft De’Anthony Thomas, he could help in plays where there is no 2 TE set, and have him on the field with DeSean, as an option to use on the field – maybe some misdirection, etc…..
My only concern with him is his size, and can he take an NFL hit.
gmc, I agree.
I think it would be a smart move. Many posters on here want a WR in the 1st Round anyway. So naturally they won’t want one of them signed because they ASSUME their guy ; Evans, Benjamin, Robinson, or whomever is going to be a savior to the WR Corp of the Eagles.
in reality there is no guarantee they are any better than Maclin, or Cooper, and there may be just as talented receivers available in rounds 3-5, that may have better careers than the ones previously mentioned.
They need to go Defense in the 1st round – OLB, or Safety – They will more than likely let Avant walk, and draft another WR, in the later rounds – at least that’s what I would do – and keep BOTH Maclin, and Cooper…
gmc, I agree with everything you said, no player is a guarantee, but if you look at all of their sizes, talent, production, & speed for their sizes, I think this could be the best WR class to come out in years & we need a legit, big WR. Maclin is what I said above, Cooper is a half season wonder, & Avant is good for nothing but blocking. Safety in the 1st is a good move, but at 22, we ain’t getting a fit at 3-4 OLB.
We need more speed and size at the position! The Eagles should let Riley walk or low-ball him into a very cap friendly a little over the minimum…and if someone else wants to pay him…fine.
translation…because he said a bad word and he happens to be of the wrong …um what is…wrong something I don’t want him. Dude in the NFL if you can play people over look a lot of things… think about it Ray (accessory to murder) Lewis is now on ESPN and somehow became a beloved figure. Donte Stalworth I think killed somebody with a car and came back… um a bad word?
Who are you going to sign, or draft to replace a guy who already knows the system, and has proven himself valuable to the team chemistry?
Don’t overstate what a drafted WR is going to do…Benjamin, Robinson, and whoever you draft will not be better than Cooper…That’s ridiculous… He gets signed…
gmc, Benjamin, Watkins, Evans, Robinson, Lee, Matthews, & Landry, are all going to be good receivers, & I’d bet on them being better than Cooper, the one half of a season wonder. Let’s not overrate Cooper, & underrate the kids. You, more than others, know that. You might not agree 100% with me, about the kid WR’s, but I wholeheartedly believe, that Evans, Watkins, Benjamin, & Matthews are going to be the next wave of stud WR’s, & Robinson, Lee, & Landry will good too. IMHO, the draft is going to come down to what they do in FA, & trading their own personnel. If they sign say Jairus Byrd, Soliai/ Raji/ Joseph, Verner/ Talib/ Grimes/ Davis/ Brown/ Tillman.
Say they sign one big FA, in Byrd, then go for NT Joseph, DE A. Jones/ L. Houston, K Gano, then they could draft-
1st- Evans?/ Benjamin
2nd- Jeremiah Attaochu
3rd- SS Buchannon/ Dixon.
3rd(Trade for Curry)- Desir/ Jean-Baptiste.
4-7 Icing
GMC he has an entirely different agenda– he doesn’t want to get rid of cooper for his play….
I hear you Ciggy, But DCar, and I , have these conversations from time to time – but not often – where we both respectfully disagree. That’s my main man….
DCar, I am not sure these WR’s in the first Round will be as advertised. That’s why I am not as high on them as some. Even Sammy Watkins, for me has a lot of question marks. There is talent at that position in the 3rd -6th Rounds, that you would be happy with.
You know I love where you are going in your mock draft DCar, but we only disagree about the 1st Round…For me we have trade down, and get more picks, and I still like the idea of Josh Gordon playing opposite DeSean.
I wouldn’t be against the Eagles giving Cleveland a 2nd in 2015, that could be a first, if Gordon passes random testing, and plays a certain number of games, and reaches incentives in TD’s, and total yards.
I too would try to sign Byrd, Jason Woirlds, and Raji, or Joseph, and use Bryce Brown, Todd Herramans, Brandon Graham, and MAYBE Vinny Curry, and move down gradually through rounds 2-4, and draft:
1st.- Kony Ealy – OLB/DE
2nd A- Calvin Pryor S, 2nd B-Kyle Fuller CB, 2nd C-Jeremiah Attaochu
3rd A – Jimmy Garrappolo QB, 3rd B – Deone Buchannon SS
4th A – Daniel McCullers – DT, 4th B – De’Anthony Thomas
5th A – Andrew Jackson – MLB, 5th B – Walt Aikens – CB
6th – Ethan Westbrooks – DE
7th – Cory Washington – WR
GMC i’ve told you before when it comes to who to watch for coming out in the draft i go to you, dcar and even for laughs paul. I think you all have unrealistic issues and in some cases delusions. But i prefer your analysis to any on espn–
I believe that if any of you were FANS of any other team you would be equally brutal on their GM’s —
Yeah Ciggy, because at heart, we all Eagles fans, and after seeing Reid, and Banner fail miserably draft after draft, we want to suggest impact – all 3 of us have our favorites; our guys, but we are all on the same page as to what the Eagles need because we want a Championship.
And we know it starts in how we draft.
I gotta tell you that was funny how you said “and for laughs, even Paul”….LOL!!!..Classic for me…LOL!!
well GMC thats what i’m talking about…. while reid had many, many swings and misses i contend that it is part of the business and that if you followed the ‘whoevers’ as passionately as you follow the eagles you would be equally critical-
yes that comment was for hotair- i don’t argue with dcar on player evaluation, particularly college players- i just think he’s delusional thinking all moves in real life work out as well as they do from the armchair!
That’s right Ciggy, more than likely….except for the Patriots.
Funny gm but BeliCHEAT hasn’t won a SB since he cheated us… He has been much more mortal
gmc, havenoclue meant that comment for trollbreeze, not me. I don’t have any agendas against anyone. LOL!
Okay….What did you think of that mock draft, and FA Signings I just gave you?
That would be fantastic, but it highly unlikely we can get that many extra draft picks. Herremans is worthless. Graham & Curry won’t get us any higher than 2 3rds, & maybe an extra low pick. Brown is a BU RB, so how much can he realistically get us? You would have to slip roofies to the GM’s, to make those trades. My Brother told me of a rumor that has been going around in Florida, about Graham, for Dion Jordan, & a swap of lower draft picks. That’s why I mentioned it last week. Although I don’t really like Jordan, I’d make it, because he is a possible future fit, & Graham isn’t.
Just trading down, and adding those players to the deal
If I was offered Dion Jordan for Brandon Graham, I’d have to be on something not to take that.
I would then start trading down to the 2nd for multiple picks in the 2nd, and 3rd, and still get everyone I mocked to you, plus Gabe Jackson, and Cyril Richardson….
DCar, that may actually be Howie plan – build through the draft –
Trade out of the 1st Round into the 2nd for multiple picks there, the 3rd, and 4th. They already have 2 picks in the 5th…..all the while have Dion Jordan to take Trent Coles spot…
I have to admit that would be a good strategy. This would have to come from Tom Gamble though….Howie was groomed by Banner, and Reid.
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
While I doubt he will last until the 2nd round, I would love to see the Bird’s get Benjemin from FSU. More likely it might be Robinson from PSU, but I like him also.
Even with his big year, I do not believe that the team should be paying him more. He just negotiated that deal 2 years ago, and he is at a pretty high level for a WR. Avant’s cap number will need to be addressed and he will need to take a paycut IMO if he is staying around.
I think Robinson from psu is a beast! Would love to have him on this team. He can definitely replace cooper if we don’t resign him back
Martaivis Bryant from Clemson 6’4″ 205 4.39 40 time.
Eagle he runs a 4.65 40 according to draft.com, Walters football, and CBSDraft….That’s why he will be available in the 4th – 5th rounds.
Very good athlete who will have to put in some work…
gmc, he won’t get past the 3rd, especially if he blows up the Combine. You know how that goes. I think he could be good too. The WR, Safety, CB, & LB corps, have unexpectedly become deeper, & more talented, from the beginning of the year-now. Going to be interesting.
Cliff…I’m not buying that 40 time. I’ve seen tomany other sites posting 4.39-4.4. Not only that…I’ve watched him run…I can tell the difference between 4.0 and a 4.6…as I am a runner and track guy. Trust me…he runs in the low 4.4. Bryant will go in the 3rd.
Cliff…I just looked up both Walter football and CBS…..Walter football has him projected at 4.36…CBS has him projected at 4.38. They are just projections as they do not have an official 40 time yet. However, he and Sammy Watkins raced last year…Bryant won the race and was declared the fastest member on the Clemson team., Anyone who’s payed attention to Bryant and actually watched him run knows….there is no question he is much faster than a 4.6…..I’ve been around track and field for 22 years as that is my other passion besides football. I know he runs in the 4.3-4.45 range.
The guy that does Walters is a friend of mine, and he has him at 4.57
I am looking forward to the combine, for some clarity on some of these prospect. I have a feeling some of theses top prospects aren’t as advertised…..
You’re friend is wrong in this case. We will find out in 3 weeks for sure though. Walter’s still has him as 4.36.
Walters is a very good site, & is usually more accurate, than he isn’t. I love how he breaks down by exact positions, & fit. Very informative site, for players we don’t get to see as much. Always a good read, but tell him he needs to refresh his updates more often.
I am looking forward to the combine fellas
You really think Desean gonna stay focused and show up after he gets a new contract your friggin wrong man.He starts shit bye bye i would sign cooper,mac 1 yr deal ,avant let walk, draft wr after and I mean after we address defense in draft and fa. I like the connection riley and foles have I think its only gonna get better.I would tell riley to beef up over off season like to see him used more in middle of field learn to use his big body get separation u know jackson aint going over middle hes too scared gettin hurt shame to aint around as crazy as he was he had balls and talent and built like a gladiator not like this half pint we got whose already got his hand out and ready to fuk up our next season hell no!!
DonP DJaxisgoing to be here. Why get rid of a receiver who had the year he did. You can still add that big receiver without getting rid of DJax. You guys take the business side of their lives to personal. I’ve still not seen where DJaxhas been such a distraction that he’s hurt the locker room. I like Cooper and want him resigned as he and Foles have great chemistry, but the truth of the matter is, he (Cooper)did more to hurt this team this year than Jackson ever did. But, people are fine with giving him a pass while vilifying and demonizing Jackson with words like punk and thug…etc. Hmmm…interesting!
This is simple: Jackson, Cooper, Avant & Maclin come back.
Didn’t the Birds bring one of the tall kids back off the practice squad the end of the season?
Otherwise, no FA, just draft picks Kelly will be able to work a kid into his sceme…Only FA if a bargain pops up.
As much as I hate to gree with Denny friggin Basens. I agree. PAY JACKSON. he makes the other players around him better, and that is EXERYTHING you ask for a champion. He is one. I at first said boot his ass out of town… then I remember what we could have done with T.O. …. I burned my Jersey. Pay Jackson. Bring back Cooper and Maclin on one years deals. Draft a nice prospect.
D-Jax just mDe $10 Million in 2013
With $12 Million in 2014, $12.5 Million
In 2015 & due $10 Miklion in 2016 which
Is $34.5 Million the next 3 Years
“F—” him and his horse if this is not a fair market
Value Salary for a WR who has failed to win a Playoff Game yet as an Eagle
You cannot Re-negotiate his deal at this Tine as this would send send a bad message to the other 51 Players who probably all would like more $$$ to
Like Peters,Mathis, Foles, on and on and on..
Where does it stop!!!
This Franchise and this current group of Core Players have still won nothing yet but a piss-poor NFC Division Title so far,
Woopty Doo…
DJax has won a couple playoff games as an Eagle. Get your knowledge up Paulman.
Forgot about the 2008 Run when losing to Cardinals..
In NFC Team.. Did he even play well that Cardinal Game
DJax caught a huge bomb from McNabb that be bobbled and then caught for a TD that was a huge play that game. I’ll never forget it. The defense is who let us down in AZ.
Yes, JJ had a terrible game plan and was no match versus QB Kurt Warner and Offensive Coordinator genius Todd Haley.. Are u kidding me…,
that Game was over by Halftime for all intents and purposes
I remember Dawkins having a lousy game also
Defenses that rely on heavy blitzing often succumb to quality QBs, who invite the blitz, knowing it means single coverage somewhere.
Excellent Qbs like to be blitzed, and this was one of the failings of the JJ defenses.
They always looked awesome against the pedestrian Qbs of the world – like Vick, and completely demolished young QBs because of the confusion created, but often failed against the “big guns”.
This is one reason I am interested in this year’s SB. Seattle’s D is not “blitz happy” and I am looking forward to seeing if Manning struggles, or tear apart their simpler packages.
Nice obsevation Vinnie..I agree with this point
Damn that felt weird
WTF is happening ..LOL…
Let;s be sensible here: If DeSean Jackson wants a little more money. give it to hum. but don’t make a federal case about it.
If DeSean wishes to piss and moan, then he can be replaced, but probably not next year.
I have always liked DJax, but he isn’t the only fish in the sea.
He deserves NOTHING! He just signed a new contract in 2012. If he doesn’t like it, too f^#@ing bad. If he pouts, & quits on the team again this time, he will be gone, after next year. His dead money goes significantly down, from $6,250,000- $4,000,000, after next year, & down to $2,000,000, after the next.
The Eagles owe DJAX nothing currently, he can be released any time and it costs them nothing. When he resigned only a year and a half was guaranteed. 2014 is year 3 of that contract and the rest of the contract is non guaranteed, that is what DJax wants renegotiated. He wants to go to mini-camps and training camp with guarantees. The Eagles will probable have to guarantee DJax another year and half going forward to quell this time bomb.
Wrong again e0! We owe him $6,250,000 of dead $$$$ if he is released, or traded. Get your facts straight.
nope, djax has that money in the bank that dead money is just accounting salary cap tricks.
He gets $10 million to sign, along with a $750,000 base salary and a $250,000 workout bonus in 2012.
In 2013, Jackson receives a $6.75 million base salary, $4 million of which is fully guaranteed. The other $2.75 million is guaranteed for injury only. He also will receive a $250,000 workout bonus, which increases the two-year take to $18 million.
In 2014, Jackson will receive a base salary of $10.25 million, $250,000 of which is fully guaranteed and $250,000 of it is guaranteed for injury only. (Those guarantees go away if he receives the workout bonus in 2012 and 2013.) He also will be eligible for a $250,000 workout bonus.
In 2015, the base salary will be $9.75 million, with a $250,000 workout bonus.
And in 2016, the base salary will be $8.25 million, with a $250,000 workout bonus.
Jackson also could earn up to $4 million in escalators, with $250,000 per year from 2012 through 2015 for making the Pro Bowl, $250,000 per year from 2012 through 2015 for 1,300 or more receiving yards, $250,000 per year from 2012 through 2015 for 10 or more receiving touchdowns, and $250,000 per year from 2012 through 2015 for Super Bowl wins.
With the potential escalators, the total package is worth up to $51 million over five years.
You do not know WTF you are talking about! Direct from spotrac.com. The base salary, & cap hit, has nothing to do with the dead money, if he is traded, nor released. He has a prorated $2,000,000 signing bonus through 2016, plus an extra $250G in misc, bonus. All dead $$$$ if he is traded, or released. Get it right.
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WTF? Art class now?
nope. How Jeff Lurie chooses to spread out the “signing bonus” salary cap money has nothing to with the way Djax “receives” his money in his contract . The signing bonus was given to him the day he signed the contract. Your brain is being tripped up with salary cap figures on the signing bonus which was $10,000,00. Djax and Joe Banner removed the one year franchise tag designation of $8.5 million for a 5 year 51 million dollar contract with one and a half years guaranteed which is 15 million guaranteed which includes a $10,000,000 signing bonus.
Eagle NFL connections in Reid, Mornhingweg, Lazar, Grigson and Banner are all out there needing WR help In KC, NYJ, Miami, Colts, and Browns and are all familiar with Maclin and Cooper. Someone in the NFL is going to out bid the Eagles for either or both Maclin and Cooper.
This is for the draft followers, Dcar, Cliff etc. if Benjamin and Ealy are there at 22. Do you take Benjamin with the potential to make your offense Denverish or do you take Ealy with the potential to upgrade your pass rush? You know where I stand I’m taking Benjamin who would be a steal at 22.
Big, great question. I think we can better answer that question after free agency.
I’m taking Benjamin, as there are other OLB’s I think is more diverse than Ealy…I still don’t think he can cover….because I’ve never seen him do it. I’m waiting on Cliff to post the video footage of him doing it. I went to Ealy’s youtube highligh footaget…I figured it would be on there…but there is no cover footage of him. I still believe Ealy..like Clowney, are 43 guys. Now if Pryor and Benjam are both there, I would use the full time to decide that. I think I’d have to get my Safety though….Pryor.
I really like Benjamin Eagles but I have to agree if Pryor is there he’s the pick.
As much as I like Benjemin and a few other big receivers, I have to believe that the Birds will address the defense with thier 1st round pick. It is a good question, and a harder choice, but they really need to get this defense up to a level that will take it far in the playoffs. Defense.
Greenfan defense should be the pick. Chip Kelly is an offense guy you just know his thinking is better offense beats good defenses especially his offense.
BL I agree. I really do like Benjamin, and think he will be a great pro, but our defense has too many holes. Maybe we can go defense with the 1st & 2nd round picks and maybe get Alan Robinson from PSU. I think he might still be around, and he has good size and speed and really catches the ball like he owns it. He reminds me a little of Anquan Boldin, not quite as big a body, but catches the ball really well.
Me too Big. IMHO Ealy is not a fit in the 3-4 player. gmc, disagrees.
I take Ealy. I don’t think Benjamin will be a good pro….
I hear, and see what you guys like about him, but I don’t think you’ve paid attention to the deficiencies, and the negatives that will hurt him in the pros despite highlights you’ve seen. I keep telling you guys to look beyond the obvious…..
Cliff I hear you but that goes for every young kid that will be drafted. They all have deficiencies and negatives despite the highlights.
But, I am speaking specifically about Kelvin Benjamin.
I’m not sure why you guys are so crazy about him, but I don’t see a superstar…I see a college superstar, like Johnny Manziel, who will struggle in the NFL.
What I like about Benjamin…catch radius, knows how to usehis body tp box out defenders. (I’m going tomake a new word up here…jumpability). Red zone threat, speed for a man his size, catches with his hands, long strider, size to be an effective blocker..Big people beat up little people. I know Benjamin has deficiencies, however, they can be corrected with coaching. With him, it’s not a physical or athletic issue, just coaching and experience.
Benjamin, in my opinion will be an NFL pro stud.
so over a 2-3 year period, he demonstrates you to be wrong….I can count on you appreciating what I see that you don’t…right fellas?
I see a physically superior athlete who from the time he stepped on the field to last year has done nothing but improve. His route running was much better and with NFL coaching will continue to get better.
ok Biggie……if you say so
What about taking a look at Hakeem Nicks and or Kenny Britt. They have the attributs that Chip likes. Big, Fast, Good Hands. Yes they also have some underachieving history and with Britt some baggage with off field stuff. But if Chip could make Cooper look like a real #2 receiver, imagine what he could do with these guys.
Receiving core of Jackson, Nicks, and Britt. You never know.
Nicks is going SOuth back to the Carolinas and play for the Panthers who will overpay for him… Britt may end up on Jets, but has so much baggage
that he will have to accept a 1 year Deal to see if he is mature enough andcommitted to play for anyone.. Eagles could take a glyer on him and probably could get him on the cheap.. just not sure you can count on either one of the Players any longer though I do expect a bounce back for Nicks for the Panthers..
The only FA receiver I like is Bowdin: He’s a champ, physical and would be a good fit here.
Paulman, you would know more about the money aspect.
gmcliff
January 31, 2014 – 1:05 pm
I am looking forward to the combine fellas
This is why i turn to GMC for draft news…. ‘looking forward’ to fat guys run the 40 and guys seeing how high they can jump….ZZZZZzzzzzzz!!!!!
It’s an acquired taste Ciggy….LOL!!
DJax on The View today. Djax was on the set today with the kid who was bullied 3 years ago. The kid talked about after Djax intervened in his life he got a scholarship to a private school. Djax kept in touch with him and fly him to LA for the ESPYs. They were reunited in the media today on The View and the kid is doing well. He is striving to be a lawyer. DJax then proceeded to give the kid who is now 17 to SB tickets. This is the shit fans dont normally hear about.
But Dag wait he cursed on his rap album, he’s a thug. LMAO
Nor do they want to hear or talk about it because it contradicts their irrational opinion of him as a person. You won’t hear them say a word about it if they do know because some people only take pleasure in belittling and denegrating others.
Djax gets hot chicks! I remember this bullying thing good for him! My biggest issue with him was the quitting and pouting and publicly whining about money!
I don’t care orconcern myself with the whole pouting or whining about money. I’m only concerned about on the field performance. I think the quitting on the team thing is a little over hyped. What Dez Bryant did this year …leaving the field of play with time remaining on the clock is quitting on his team IMO.
His performance was piss poor when he pouted! So by your logic you thought he was a dick that year?
I disagree that his performance was piss poor. Did it effect him….yes, so did other factors. It’s not my place to judge him, nor call him names as I don’t know him…so who am I to do that. Like I said, I don’t care about all that stuff, that’s for the coach and GM to deal with. What’s me bitchin about it gonna do and why should I get worked up about it? If he is slouching…bench him and deal with it in a proper fashion….next man up. If not, let him play his game.
It has to be done!
vick:
“You can put me in all the quarterback battles you want to put me in, I just don’t think I would lose one,” he said. “Not saying that out of arrogance, just saying it with confidence because I know what it takes to win. I’ve been playing in this league for 11 years, and the one thing I won’t do, I won’t go to any other place and battle for a position. Why would I do that?”
Vick the greatest red shirt practice field and shorts QB in Eagle history
And…
“Battling with Nick [Foles] last year was great, it was good, friendly and healthy competition, but I couldn’t focus on the season and what was to come.
So what’s that? He sucked (as usual) BECAUSE of the competition? Hmmmm…didn’t seem to affect the guy he was competing against.
I I I I I I I I I I
“I’m not going to sit and be a waste of talent. I know nobody is looking at it like that but I’d feel like I didn’t maximized my opportunities if I didn’t go out and pursue that.”
Oh, he won’t “sit and be a waste of talent”. Ottawa needs an influx of talent, being an expansion team and all.
There’s Vick, throwing his coaches under the bus….they didn’t get him ready for the season.
Guy just can’t help himself.
let it go vin, that bum is some other city’s problem now.
Vinnie what you do with your time when he goes away? Are you going to their blogs to keep up your hobby?
I don’t know.
In the past week I’ve posted on Ertz being better than GMCliff gives him credit for, how the Eagles will take another Olineman with their first pick, on Jennifer Jones and Canada’s woman’s curling team, and on how JJs Defenses were too blitz happy which was their downfall against good QBs….
No play on any of them.
How dull…..couple Vick posts and some action.
I have no idea what I’ll do on here without Vick…its going to be pretty damn boring.
Vick still has his “won fair and square” fan club in Philly
“I know what it takes to win” … 2 things about this quote… Mikes biggest problem is that he starts too many sentences wit ‘I’ and two he is 34-36 in his last 6 seasons. Dude doesn’t know how to win!
That’s all great about djax, the story of his father too, but it doesn’t matter if you can’t perform as a pro, and he can’t, he’s undersized, bad attitude, contract talks already, he’s not Foles man
Show him the door via trade
Every player is not going to be the perfect guy like Beaver Cleaver…You’re going to have some Eddie Haschal’s too. But everyone’s got a role to play. DJax isn’t goinng anywhere. Just because someone does not fit into your idea as to what the perfect player is doesn’t mean he’s not team Eagle worthy. He had the best year in his career and Foles was throwing him the ball. They don’t have to hang out singing Kumbaya….Foles just needs to pitch and DJax catch and run. All team mates aren’t all buddy buddy. Over 1300 yards is performing!!!
He can’t perform? Really? I guess I watched a different team this year… He performed quite well
Whats good eagles family…Im hearing a rumor that Maclin signed a 2 yr deal…anybody else hearing this??? i hope for one that this is true…
Ertz (especially for GMCliff)
What exactly are your expectations for a rookie TE??
Here are the first seasons of Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, Rob Gronkowski, Shannon Sharpe, Tony Gozalez and Zach Ertz in no particular order….
31 for 356 5td
24 for 389 2td
33 for 368 2td
7 for 99 1 td (and only 22 for 322 1 td in his 2nd year – hint: he’s in the HOF)
42 for 546 10 tds
36 for 469 4td
Though I’m sure they were all excellent, excellent blockers in their first NFL season but Ertz isn’t – give me a break.
Ertz was a very good pick and his first year production is right in line with other very productive NFL TEs of the modern era…..oh, and that’s mostly with a QB playing his first 16 starts…
Why exactly are you complaining about Ertz again?
Could care less about Statistics. Ertz isn’t in the same league as those you mentioned talent or heart wise. Your analogy is irrelevant to me. He is not one of those players.
Shannon Sharpe, is a HOFamer, because he proved himself year in , and year out. Ertz has proven nothing accept every time he catches a ball, he has a following that thinks he had a career like Kellen Winslow.
Most of You were bias from the start with Ertz being drafted; You felt he was a superstar in the making without catching one ball in the NFL.
No disrespect, I just don’t see it. I’m not complaining about Ertz. I’m refuting your crowning him a potential star, without allowing his career speak for itself.
Vinnie, I will tell you most on here did the same thing with Brandon Graham, and even Trent Richardson; and with some of the draft prospects coming into the NFL as well. You put all your eggs in one basket because your so sure about what you think…..and then find out it’s all for nothing…
Stop talking to me about what he is going to be, and let his seasons speak for itself, because at this point, he hasn’t accomplished anything. Again nothing personal, and no complaints. I just don’t see the superstar you rave about.
You guys fall in love with a prospect every year and when it’s proven he’s a dud….I don’t hear anything from you…so just relax, on what he is going to be. Let his play speak for itself AS HE DEVELOPS. I’m telling you , if it turns out like I think it will, you guys will have every excuse in the book…..
Stop throwing Statistics at me. Trent Richardson, had over 1,300 yards the first year I said he was nothing special. The next year, where did all those stats go…with a better team!!!????
Sometimes scheme, and the presence of the talent around you, make those stats seem like your more talented than you really are…….stats don’t always tell the whole story.
Who cares about Trent Richardson? Did we sign him? Draft him? You draft elitist crack me up! Best I can tell in the nfl there is NO SUCH THING as a luxury pick. I can’t predict ertz to the hall of fame but I do predict a very very good and productive career
No one here said Ertx was going to the HOF. Many of us think that he is going to have a productive career for the Eagles. A very good one. And that he was a good 2nd round pick. I mean its not like they used a top 10 on the guy.
You, for whatever reason, disagree, comparing him to busts like Finley or Cook (both with off the field issues).
Just grumbly because he wasn’t “your guy” or whatever.
I mean seriously….WTF do you expect from a first year TE? 70, 80 catches?
What exactly would he have had to do to get the awesome GMCliff seal of approval. (my feeling is nothing. You didn;t like the choice, so he will suck forever in your view I suppose)
As I pointed out, he compares very very favourably to other highly touted TEs in their first years.
I expect him to improve for next year, you feel that he was a waste of a pick who will regress.
You will be proven wrong.
and Vinnie with all due respect…I’ll be waiting to be proven wrong.
BTW, no one said Ertz would suck,
……and that also has nothing to do with not being “my guy” and you know it. What I said to you in reference to Ertz, made sense, but because I don’t see it like you do…you continue to belabor the point….respectfully…I disagree with you Vinnie. Point blank
Based on what?
Base on what Ciggy, do you predict a very, very, good and productive career???? Based on what??
BTW, regardless of whether of Trent Richardson was drafted by us, or not, my analogy makes a good point…You never know, so I would temper the expectations
I base my opinion on what I have seen this far out of him. His athleticism, hands etc. I think he is a top TE in the next year or two. You base your negativity on what? Your stubbornness? I love the term that either you or DCAR throw around… Luxury pick hahahaha…it’s called the freaking NFL…no such thing bro! Aaron Rogers was a luxury pick hahahaha
Actually, DCar is the only person between us to us the term luxury pick. You won’t find one post by me using that term. So if you want to talk to him about that be my guest…It has nothing to do with me.
So. your opinion is based on an assumption? In other words, you assume he will be a top 2 TE, in the next 2 years right? Based on your anamouration of his production both in college, and his rookie year? That’s what your saying right?
Okay,…if he does, I will be the first person to admit I was wrong, But, I don’t want to hear any excuse from you, or any sarcastic responses, when it turns out he just another player, whose skills were overstated, and hung out to dry, on the clothes line of overblown expectations……I say he’ll be okay, and nothing really special.
Jeff Lurie speaks at Superbowl about Nick Foles. I am on board with Foles moving forward but the rest of the country including Jeff Lurie isn’t. If The Colts president was asked if Luck is the future would he say this? If Pete Carroll is asked about Russell Wilson would he say this? If Manning, Brady, Brees, Rogers were asked would there owners say this? I just don’t understand why even the owner would say this. From Birds 24/7. Jeff Lurie answers question.
Is Foles the guy moving forward deep into the future?
“Well he’s been great. What a first year-and-a-half with Nick. Spectacular. Real smart, poised, wants to be great. Great teammate, great leader. He’s got a lot going for him, but you know in the NFL you’ve got to compete at all times. But he’s had a great first year-and-a-half.”
You can spin it anyway you want but that does not sound like a convincing endorsement.
You would think Lurie would say hell yeah we have a great young QB and he is our QB of the future. We are very lucky to have him and we look forward to Nick being here for the next 12 years. No well he has to compete every year but he has had a great 1 1/2 years. my goodness. lol
Actually it sounds exactly like what the ravens were saying about flacco during the last year of his rookie contract! No owner pre-negotiation is going to come out in the press and say ‘yeah the guy is a top 3 qb’…do you understand the business part even a little?
Actually Luries comments were about as glowing as any owner would be coming into a contract year….understand we are talking tens of millions of dollars. If Foles has even close to the same kind of year he had last year he is signing for flacco money…
So if he endorses him he will have to pay him more. So if he doesn’t endorse him he wont have to pay him more. Hmmmm makes sense thanks for explaining the business part haveacigar. lol
You don’t gush over a player during contract negotiations …you don’t give his agent ammunition to use against you! Go back and see what the ravens ownership was saying its business dipshit
Oh sorry haveacigar didnt know they were in negotiations. You so smart!
You didn’t know that? You don’t realize that Foles has one more year on his $750k rookie contract and his next contract will range from $20 M guaranteed to like $60 M? …that’s a serious difference
Doesn’t Foles have 2 more Years on his a Rookie 4Year Deal which is standard Length of an NFL Contract by Drafted Players
I believe it’s after Year 3 that a Club can then Offer an Extension if they choose, but not before 3 Years of Service in the NFL,
I could be wrong on this, but anyone else know or could confirm..
You are correct .. I misread his contract he makes $800 in 15! Point is Lurie knows a big payday is coming for Foles .. The negotiation is all about the guaranteed money!
Jeff Lurie watches TV Nelson ratings —
Garcia ratings plummented when McNabb got hurt.
Vick ratings doubled when he replaced Kolb and dipped when Foles replaced him 2012.
Nick Foles had weak ratings until that Oakland game then Kaboom everyone in the Nation was watching !!
Nick Foles and Chip Kelly sell — NBC featured them nationally and were rewarded and kept going back to them. ( SF vs Sea. sells better but Foles/Kelly is a ratings winner)
With the nfl tv contract ratings don’t matter all that much.
what? everything has a price tag on it – Jerry Jones,Robert Kraft, and Jeff Lurie make 5 to 10 times the amount of money Oakland, Cincinnati, Tampa, and Detroit make
No they don’t.
TV revenue (majority of revenue) is shared equally.
All Merchandising NFL licensed products are shared evenly
Gate receipts are split 60% home team – 40% to everyone else
Even playoff gates are shared
Only luxury box and concession revenue is kept by the home team….
BUT
The latest CBA imposed a ‘luxury tax” on the higher earning clubs, and a good chunk of that $$ is also taken and distributed to the lower earning clubs.
TV revenue is shared bro! They do make more but the difference is peanuts! Foles tv image means absolutely nothing to lurie
if you think the Oakland Raiders made even remotely close to the amount of money as the Dallas Cowboys you are clueless –
Cam Newton is a cash cow to Carolina —
remove Aaron Rodger from Green Bay and insert to Minnesota and a massive amount of revenue leaves one city and enters another
Vinnie these owners are in collusion to make money
Vick was sent to the eagles because that’s where he would enhance all the owners profits
Thats why he couldn’t go to where he wanted to start. Buffalo, no dollars there
That’s why Reid was told to reverse his decision that Kolb was the starter
Anyone who thinks nfl playing time is strictly based on ability is not watching, listening close eenough
The nfl is becoming the wwe
Jake you lose any and all points when you bring up that stiff Kolb.
Dude as the Floyd once sang…”the lunatic is in your head”
The guys in white coats are stopping by your house once they grab up songs
Stay in a fog cigar, it’s better for your mental health , being enlightened isn’t easy
Big, he turned out to be a stiff, but you missed the point, Reid wasted to start Vick by lurie, Vick coming to Philly was orchestrated by the owners
But here is the point Jake, once Vick got injured and Foles played well and trust me even if he would have had multiple interception games Vick wasn’t getting back onto the field revenue be damned.
You’re correct, Jake.
Kolb was Reid’s qb
Same thing will happen when the Eagles. Sign Tim Tebow this Spring to compete for a back-up QB with Barkley..
Let the Holy Rollers begin.. Good Grief!!!
If the religious types were into football no doubt Tebow would still be playing, no money in the religious right
Tebow is better than Pryor and others
Jake, with his the owners work together to make $$ and that the NFL wanted vick in Philly, makes a much better argument than the “Lurie wanted more $$” argument.
The NFL makes the $$ (on all tickets, merchandising, and TV revenue) then divides it EVENLY to every team. Any team that makes more from luxury box or consession revenue is TAXED and that $$ given to the teams that earn less from these streams. Revenue for each team is basically EVEN.
They even pool all their $$ into a fund now so that the teams with shitty stadiums can build new ones enhancing EVERYONE’s revenue.
What is so hard to understand???
I agree with Jake on this…..Vick was a much better sell – for the LEAGUE – in Philly than he would have been in Buffalo. The LEAGUE (not Lurie) sold a hell of a lot more Eagles jerseys with ‘Vick’ on the back then they ever would have sold in Buffalo. That much is absolutely clear. God, there are still delusional Philly fans who think the guy is a competent QB….they’d root for him if he went 13 and 17 with 27 interceptions and 25 fumbles over his last 30 games….oh wait….shit, that’s what he did and they still love him.
Jake may be on to something!
Vinnie I believe every thing you wrote – but it still doesn’t matter –
Partnerships are formed with the Eagles and Xfinity, Lincoln Financial, 94wip, Acme, Coke, US Airways, Verizon and that money is not shared and are based solely on TV viewership. That logo on a sheet behind the coach’s press conference is not shared revenue. Eagles stadium being called Lincoln Financial Field is not shared.
Your are correct 0 bowls as a matter of fact it was a big deal about Jerry Jones deal with coke or Pepsi through his stadium deal so he didn’t have to share that revenue.
At the end of the Day,as in all Sports,Business,Politics and almost everything else under the Sun is this, “Just Win,Baby”
Everything else it seems, is irrelevant… In today’s dumbing-down of our Society..
It’s more than just winning paulman you need a brand that sells, foles performance this year brought him above that standard, but they are selling his brand now on the national media tour
All your scouting don’t mean shit
You can’t sustain a “Brand” without Winning Jake,
Maybe the Big Market Teams like in NY,LA
And even the Cowboys can sustain and still grow their Brands,
But who in the US outside a 250 Mile of Seahawks could name
5 Players on their Roster 2/3 Years ago,
That’s right, almost no one.. Look at the Raiderd, who have a long and strong Tradition, who knows anybody from that Team in the last
10 years or Buffalo, Clevekand, etc,etc
By Winning, you enhance the Brand which just
Gets bigger & bigger..Start losing consistently,
And nobody cares who you are outside of a few diehard local Fans
And yes, my Scouting still matters..
You are a good scout paulman
All joking aside, I try to be, Football is a passion of mine,
And when looking at Colkege Prospects, I try
To think of the Pkayers that fit the Eagles Schemes and Team Personality and of course trends which became kind of obvious under AR last
5 years, but with Chip, I am still learning what he likes though I think we all have a pretty good idea of what he wants in a Football Player.
He wants them long (tall), fast , tough and versatile
So as I go thru the Pkayers and their Rankings by Position
I try to keep this at the forefront..
This Draft will be very interesting as well as important to build upon the Success of last year..
I have to believe that they go Defense with 3 of their first 4 Selections
And I am Stsrting to lean at Safety Calvin Pryor at #22 because I believe more than anyone Position on the Eagles that needs major upgrading is tge a Safety Position and Jelly wants a big Safety back there to compete with the big WR’s & TE’s that are common place in the NFL anymore
Pryor at 6-2″-216lbs and who will fill out to 225lbs by Year 2/3 very easily and could be that Player Kelly really wants..
Free Agency will really tell the tale of the Eagles Draft
If they Re-sign both Cooper & Maclin,
Then WR is less of a Priority, if they only sign 1 or neither,
Then WR becomes a high Draft need
Hey gmcliff…. I thought russell wilson wasnt going to make the NFL.. WTF were u thinking .. and DCAR suck my dick
GM said that? Hahaa im seriously not surprised… No offense GM
What are you talking about JH?….
GM, you said Russell Wilson wasn’t going to make the NFL?
I did, and he proved me wrong…so what?….I have no credibility for one , or two prospects out of what 40 – 50?…Please JH, …spare me the boring posts
GM relax bro, its okay if your wrong man. It does prove my point that I made a few days ago about your suspect “evaluations” haha
That’s BS Jon Hart,,…,It’s 1 – one player – out of hundreds of evaluations, where a greater amount of what you call suspect evaluations have been correct.
You haven’t PROVEN anything.
and to be frank, you, e0s, or Ciggy can’t touch me in terms of identifying talent. You chumps, very often go with your heart – no pun intended – with no insight…
Your wrong all the time, in who you feel are potential players, but you want to magnify my evaluations of Russell Wilson, and Luke Kuechly, to make yourselves look smarter – reality check you’re not..
The same thing that the other Gm’s that didn’t draft him thought…
I’m not shamed by two players that excelled in the last 3 years….What else you got Llarwd???……You’ve been leaning on that for 3 years now, and needs to lean on him, because you know, you’ll never be so lucky…and I still don’t think he’s all that great…I think Seattle as a team is great as a unit.
Cliff , let me ask you. If Russell Wilson was on the Eagles…would the Eagles have won the Superbowl today?….I know the answer…what’s your’s…someone on here said the Eagles would have.
NO..OUR DEFENSE STINKS…He wasn’t the difference in this game- although he was the MVP; Your usual politics…My answer is no Eagle.
Exactly…no way!
Excuse me Mr. MENSA? You never saw me rip Wilson. Don’t know what drug you are smoking! BTW, get your faggot boyfriend, to suck your dick! I’m a real man, with a beautiful wife of 25 years, not a little fag, that lies about being in the MENSA club! Stuff it in your @$$ punk!
Wilson is good larrwd but manning is the difference right now, he stinks
Eagles are not good enough as a Team Yet
They could Play the Seahawks,49ers,Saints, Bronco & Pats 10 Games each
And be lucky to win 10 of the 50 Games Played
Seahawks are young, have a 2nd Year QB
A dynamic Player in Percy Harvin who basically played 1 Game this year
The will lose the Following Players this Off-Season who will Cash in and move own
CB Briwner Suspended for 2014
CB Thurmond will sign a big Deal elsewhere
DL M Bennett will move on
DE C Clemons will move on
OLB B Schofield will move on
WR G Tate will move on
QB R Wilson will get better,
WR P Harvin will give them that Game-breaker
They will OL, TE, another Lb & CB in the Draft and keep rolling
Lucky ? I picked wilson ty hilton wagner kendrick foles .. Im fucking god on this site…
So you picked 2 QB’s from the 2012 Draft
Are you sure about that and maybe you are a member of the
“Mensa Hair Club for Men” GTFOH….
Llarrwd, your lying through your typed teeth…I asked you for a year who else you mocked besides Wilson, and for a year you were silent, because you had nothing……
Say what you want but the GCobb family knows who the players on this site are for insight on players…..I don’t sweat your mocking me. I know I’m good.
Why don’t you switch gears an give me my props for all the hits, like the probowlers, and the recent all ROOKIE TEAM instead of riding Russell Wilson for the rest of your life.
btw, Lane Johnson wasn’t even voted 2nd Team All Rookie team…he wasn’t voted anything; he wasn’t acknowledged at all.
Larrwd- great picks-
GMCliff- you are no better or no worse than anyone else- you are average just like everyone here ( the only difference is you are a louder self promoter)
These are players that I have identified as impact players in the NFL, in the last 3 drafts:
Justin Houston, Dontari Poe, Vontaze Burfict, Patrick Peterson, Colin Kaepernick, Marcus Cannon, Byron Maxwell, Bobby Wagner, Whitney Mercilus (took Connor Barwins spot), Vinny Curry, Kelechi Osemele, LaVonte David, Trumaine Johnson, Brandon Brooks, Demario Davis, Akiem Hicks, Nigel Bradham, Josh Norman, Devon Wylie, Ziggy Ansah, Sheldon Richardson, Jamie Collins, Star Loululei, Jamie Collins, Jonathan Cyprien, DJ Fluker (Should have been an Eagle instead of Lame), Larry Warford, Sio Moore, Blidi Wreh Wilson, Blair Walsh, Marcus Cooper, Damien Stafford, Ty Powell, Aaron Mellette, Keenan Allen, Montori Hughes, DaRick Rogers, and Cornelius Wahington.
Are there some misses maybe, but not fully determined, but as you can see a lot more hits than misses. Paul, Dcar, and Others can testify that these players were identified in consistent mocks, by GMCliff.
Some of these names, some on here never heard of before the combines, and the Senior Bowls, but were identified as Major Talents, before the end of their seasons the year prior, by GMCliff. Other than Pau, and DCar, I didn’t hear a word from most with any insight into the talent available.
This year : Khalil Mack, Kony Ealy, Austin Safarian-Jenkins, Antonio Richadson, Gabe Jackson, Kyle Fuller, Jeremiah Attaochu, Paul Richardson, Jimmy Garrappolo, Cyril Richardon, Logan Thomas, Daniel McCullers, Andrew Jackson, Pierre Desir, Walt Aikens, Ethan Westbrooks, Aaron Lynch, Jeremiah George, Cory Washington, La’el Collins, and Nickoe Whitley.
These players may, or may not be drafted by Howie, but will still have very good careers, and could all be helpful, and productive for the Eagles……
I want to hear from my critics who they have identified, so I can make a record of your selections, before the Combine, and the draft itself, so I can hear how good you are…..So, lets have it fellas; show me how good you are. or do you all yield to Howie?
Oh, and you cannot select ANYONE that I have already identified….best to you….LOL!!!
didn’t you trade all your draft picks away last year for Mantie T’eo whom you predicted would go no lower than pick 8?
Manti Te’o was a JH Pick –
GMCliff, Dcar & I all thought and stated that Te’o was overrated
and a marginal NFL Starting Player at Best, if my memory serves me well..
GMCliff spewed from October 2012 to January 2013 how great Manti T’eo was and it wasn’t until Alabama ran him over that the nonsense about trading 2014 and 2015 first round draft picks to acquire T’eo stopped — GMClueless knows exactly what I’m writing about–
The result are in for 2013 – GMClueless hand picked head coach Gus Bradley was a bust ( additionally Seahawks better without him) and his 2 whipping boys ( Chip Kelly and Mike McCoy made the playoffs )
Maybe your right EOSB..
I don’t recall everyones past Posts 100% like some of you do…
All I do know, was that I was not a supporter of LB Manti Teo’ very much and stated early on that he would drop into the 2nd Round which he did.. I just never thought he was big enough or strong enough to be an Impact, Inside NFL LB and still don’t
Wrongman Fraudman, I never said Teo would be a top 10 pick or a pro bowl player. All I said was that the Ravens would draft him towards the end of the first as a future replacement for Ray Lewis (which in hindsight should have been their pick, that defense seriously struggled because they have no leader in the middle of that defense, then you watch the chargers excel defensively towards the end of the year, make the playoffs and won a game) And I wasn’t far off at all..
i agree JHm, you said Teo’ would be a late 1st Roudner and stated without a doubt that the Ravens would select him if he was still on the Board when they got to Select at #32 to replace Ray Lewis or possible even move up a few Spots to ensure that they got their man..
I correctly stated that the Ravens would be not be interested in him with their 1st Rond Pick for Teo’s simply did not grade out as a 1st Round Prospect..
I was right, you were wrong… No big deal JH, it’s not the first time nor will it be the last time, You like Teo’ which is fine,
I just don’t believe he has starting Talent for the NFL..
So fraudman don’t come off like I was so high on Manti Teo. We all know that your wrong the majority of the time, but don’t try and put me in the same category your known to be in..
SN: Teo was in the playoffs starting in the middle of that Chargers defense, where were the Ravens and that terrible defense? I’ll let you answer that..
Jon hart
April 24, 2013 – 8:40 pm
**Early Draft Buzz News**
Some shocking news I received today from my superior sources, the Baltimore Ravens are looking to trade up from 32nd overall all the way into the top 10 anywhere from 4-10 in an effort to take OT Lane Johnson.
My Thoughts: Will this happen? It would be rather difficult for them to pull this off, but if they call the Eagles at 4 and Johnson is there and the Ravens offer players and or picks, do they Birds turn that down? This will be very interesting to see so stay tuned..
great source hahahaaaa
Jon Hart
April 25, 2013 – 11:05 am
This is what I think they will do, the Birds will look to trade back and acquire more picks. A trade with the Jets is a possibility. Then the Birds will have 2 firsts. With the first pick I see them selecting either Star, Jordan or Joeckel if he falls. Then in a shocker the Birds will select Geno Smith with the 2nd first round pick they will get… You heard it here first
Joeckel or Lane Johnson, then Geno with there 2nd 1st rounder. They will address both offense and defense in the first round. Heard it here first.. “JH has spoken”
Jon predicted the eagles would trade the 4 for the jets 9 and 13 and take Luke Joekel at 9 and geno smith at 13
hahahaaaaa
Jon hart:
April 25, 2013 – 2:40 pm
Everyone needs to keep this in mind, Chip Kelly obviously doesnt mind having former players on his roster or guys his coaches are familiar with. That brings me to more of my speculation that the Birds could very well select former Oregon standout star and former player under Chip Kelly Dion Jordan with their first pick. It makes sense, a guy that Chip knows very well and a guy who could possibly be in the same mold as an Aldon smith who Tom Gamble had a hand in drafting when he was part of the niners staff. When I see Jordan I see alot of Aldon Smith, that new hybrid type of OLB/DE. I have a strong feeling that Gamble sees the same thing… Then, if he falls, they go Geno with their 2nd first rounder or Tavon Austin.. This of course will be possible by them trading that 4th overall pick to one of the lower teams like the Jets or Dolphins etc etc..
Btw, both Dion Jordan and Dee Milliner will start camp on the pup list so both will drop in the draft.. Stay tuned
hart also called paulman a racist because paulman thought geno smith would be an nfl bust
no….and I addressed that with you last year…You took an early prediction during the year and tried to hold me to it..after months of adjusted mocks…so no I didn’t trade it for Manti Te’o’
You are totally inaccurate…Go find those post with the dates, and when you find it…Shut up…because you’re wrong
You do notice you’re the only one saying that?
My question is… are you, Ciggy, JH, Vinnie, LLawrd, and others going to accept my challenge?
I haven’t seen any one of you jump to accept my challenge, sense we are all equal in talent evaluation …right?
Let’s go cowards!!! I going to shut that mouth this year. Who are your prospects for this years draft?
no mock drafts, just a list of prospects, what positions they play, and what schools they attend…
I’m making it easy for you. Not a draft based on what Howie did his draft, or how GMCliff would do it…but just a list of Prospects that you see as potential impact…..So, lets hear it!!!
BTW, This why I recommend you to go back, and read my article. You spew things based on your obsession of trying to discredit me, which hasn’t worked.
My article flat out states hat my first Choice was Bill O’Brian. But because he was staying at Penn State, my next choice was Gus Bradley..
I didn’t like Chip Kelly as our coach because of the history of success of College coaches, coming to the NFL….Most were suspicious of him…That being said, I think Chip is a very good coach, and the right man for he job…I have been convinced, and I can admit that
Thank you for posting those JH Quotes Big Mhenski!!!
This is why I want you critical guys to respond to my challenge so Paul, Dcar, myself, and others can call you on the carpet when necessary, and point out your lack of so-called knowledge….
I’m waiting……
mHitler, what exactly did that prove? I gave my news from my source as always, and I said the eagles may trade back and get Geno or Austin. That was one of many things I heard and said. I never projected anyone as being a future superstar or a bust. What you posted didn’t show anything but that you have too much time on your hands oldman…
ANSWER MY CHALLENGE YOU BIG MOUTH COWARDS!!!!
gm, why are you acting like a maniac? Chill out bro. You projected Russell Wilson to go undrafted, big deal, a bad miss but not anything to lose sleep over..
figure if ur going to attack people for a mistake in draft analysis or player analysis I might as well prove how dumb u and ur sources are.
to summarize:
you had geno smith as a first rounder – wrong ur stupid
you thought Joekel would drop to 9th or lower – wrong ur stupid
u thought eagles would trade the 4 for the jets 9 and 13 -wrong your stupid
your “sources” (more than one) said ravens were gonna trade up – wrong you are stupid and you don’t have sources
you thought Austin would drop to the 2nd – wrong your stupid
you said Jordan and Milner would drop – wrong your stupid
you called paulman a racist because he said geno smith wasn’t gonna be good- wrong Paul’s not a racist, you have some kinda weird race obsession and geno blows
and that’s just a sample of how stupid you are. everyone laughs at you when you post. nobody respects you , your opinion , and your “sources” that are always wrong or report 45 minutes after the whole world already knows. ur the biggest joke on here outside of songs and kool and everyone knows it but you.
thanks for the comedy though. I love laughing at you. I also love laughing at others laughing at you. I also love that you don’t understand that everyone laughs at you. it’s great, your great. keep up the bit
JH, I’m not concerned about Russell Wilson. I still say he’s not that good. ….and trust me I’m not losing sleep over anything said negatively about me.
This is about shutting up guys who love to criticize, but don’t have any knowledge them selves, including guys who claim to have sources…that aren’t sources. Perhaps their sources can help them identify talent.
Are you going to answer the challenge. This is especially for Eagles0Superbowls.
Do you notice fellas how silent they are? Silence can be very loud. It also can be a confession….I want you to step up.
GM, the kid just won the superbowl lastnight for goodness sakes. The only flaw in your evaluations is when a guy that you said stunk turns out to be a player you still stick to your previous evaluations which doesn’t make any sense.. Im not here challenging you cliff, just try to adjust your stance a bit and be more realistic, esp after you’ve been proven wrong. No offense to you buddy, your actually one of the guys I enjoy reading on here, there aren’t many..
Wrong JH, The Seattle Seahawks TEAM, won the SuperBowl…
WOW, now you are God? First your were in the MENSA club, now you are the Almighty! The delusional, imbeciles, & retards, never cease to amaze me on this site, with their assclownery! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The Seahawks saved their best game for last. What a year. They will be right back in the hunt next season.. How about the coaching job that Pete Carroll did?! If this guy isn’t one of the best coaches ever then who is.. This guy has won on every level. Outcoached John Fox. He has an extremely young team but their also hungry as heck.. This team is made up of 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th round some undrafted players that have a chip on their shoulders looking to prove something. they’ve built their careers off of this..(But both of their safeties were drafted in that 2010 draft early)
I like how the Seahawks act like they’ve been here before, they’re very nonchalant, almost like they expected this.. They will be in the hunt again next year…
I believe Cam Chancellor was a 4th Round Pick
Of Seattle, maybe a 3rd (the extra pick the Eagles sent them in the Brandon Graham a Deal perhaps)…. What a Steal
I remember a few if us talking about Chancellor out of Virginia Tech during the lead up to that Draft..
Kam was actually a 5th round pick, 133rd. 21 of the 53 players on Seattle are undrafted guys. So its not all about getting high picks all the time. Your team needs to have an identity. Fast, aggressive, tough, and smart as heck. Everyone either on the defensive side or the offensive side know situations, realize what the opposing team is trying to do. Also superior coaching plays a huge role and Pete Carroll is one of the best all time on any level..
Now when it comes to the safeties position I say if you want a future probowl type then you gotta snag him early in round 1. Calvin Pryor may be long gone when the Eagles pick. Teams are watching what Kam Chancellor did at 6’3 225, fast smart aggressive play. And let me not even mention Earl Thomas (what a terrible decision the eagles made passing on this guy).. Let’s get this position righted once and for all.. Just draft two young guys.. draft two young guys or sign Ward or Byrd then draft a young guy.. At this point I want them to draft two young guys and let them grow together in this defense similar to what Seattle did..
There are so many holes in our secondary to address.. some may disagree but I want two new corners as well… Williams and Fletcher arent the fastest guys, and they get flagged alot for holding because they are trying to slow the WR down and prevent him from flying pass them. Theyre always getting beat, and theyre not the youngest guys either. Williams is almost 30 and Fletcher is 28. Time to get two young corners, tall/long fast aggressive cover guys that can tackle too.. Any guy they draft will be 6ft and taller, nomore smurfs..
I remember that Paul, and Foles as well…
eagles I said IF he is a team distraction which is like a cancer for a team cut it out.hes been here 5 seasons mac gets hurt and he has 1 big yr out of 5 please give me a break and stop the bullshit eagles I aint calling him a thug just saying the way it is so stop being a fukin martyr 4 him and yourself! The guy is undersized wr that shows up when mediocre dudes cover him and disappears with good physical dbs tired watching him catch a pass run to sideline,or drop to ground scared to get hit, no yacs now he wants his contract restructured after this 1 seasonhey aint my money do the deal then but all i’m saying is i never thought he was atypical all around complete receiver the whole package mentally and physically my opinion short and sweet you dont like it then dont read it big guy!
It’s not about whether I like what you posted…it’s just my response to your post. Get over yourself. How would I know whether I liked what you typed unless I read it. I don’t recall criticizing any of your previous post so I think you are a little premature in your remark.If you can’t take being critiqed, then perhaps it is you who should not post on GCOBB, as your gutteral response to my response to you demonstrates a fragile ego of childlike emotion on your behalf. I think the word martyr is a bit extreme…perhaps an advocate. All the cursing is unnecessary Don…it just makes me question your vocabulary…or maybe lack there of. Short and sweet….stop whining and deliver a cogent and concise argument. You made some points…but in your attempt to be a keyboard gangsta, your message becomes less effective. Save that nonsense for someone else. I laugh at that keyboard gangsta machismo, as I am underwhelmed by your potty post. Use your intellect with me Don….this isn’t the WWE!
Jon hart how old are you, seriously, you sound like my children with unauthorized Internet access, breaking news this, bullshit predictions, do you realize what a clown you sound like
Go to school, learn some history, study the civil war perhaps, get some perpective on life
Man you know what some dudes on here has much too much time on their hands. Cliff I would love to throw some names at you for comparison sake but damn this is ridiculous. I watch football because I enjoy it I played it coached and have evaluated it. Everyone has their own opinions about who can and can’t play personally it doesn’t take me but a game to know who can and can’t play. Jake kiss my ass I was wrong about Foles. LOL but I can admit that just like I wasn’t in love with Chip Kelly. Here is a prediction for eveyone who laughed at the season Gus Bradley had here in Jacksonville, they will be GOOD sooner then later because he can flat out coach his ass off.
I wasn’t really referring to you Biggie; My Friend….
I talking to the finger pointers, and GMCliff Criticizers..E0S, Ciggy, Llwrd, and to a small degree JH.
Biggie a lot of us, and media, had concerns about Kelly coming from College. I love Chip Kelly’s innovation, and think he has what it takes, to lead us to a SuperBowl. I’m not ashamed that he was successful in his first year.
What irks me, are the ones that claim they always knew it. Well, I’m giving them an opportunity to show what else they know before it reveals itself….or shut up….It’s a put up or shut up challenge…and they are afraid.
Why doesn’t that surprise me?
I hope Gus does get fired in Jacksonville, because he will be coaching our Defense within seconds..
Bill Belichek, would have had a losing season if he coached the Jags this year. I too feel Bradley is a good coach, but in a bad situation.
I know Cliff, value your opinion and would love to get your thoughts on some kids. Brad Smith out of Wyoming, Lamarcus Joyner out of FSU and Luis Nix from ND, I have few more Walt Aikens out of Liberty a CB and Enrique Willims a LB from South Alabama, and do you like Craig Loston from LSU?
Biggie , I will give my evaluation of the players you’ve mentioned after these….Armchair hecklers, answer my challenge, and I expose them. I’m not giving them any advantage, or leverage….
I’m gonna have no mercy, on them by verbally whipping there asses, on their so called knowledge….
BTW, I’ve already named Walt Aikens Biggie…..
Okay I hear you, Walt Aikens will start for someone by year 2.
GMCliff – your challenge is preposterous- you took the first 21 bites out of an apple then want others to make an apple pie out of the remaining core
Does that mean your scared? Because there is nothing preposterous about it. The ones I took are the ones that I have already Identified prior to the end of last years College bowl games, and you get no credit for them.
There are thousands of Prospects E0S, some I actually believe that will make very good Pros, that I didn’t name, and some that most on here overrate, and will be bust. The question is can you identify the players, from the pretenders.
Surely you can name more talented prospects then my eye can see…right?
I don’t even like some of the more popular prospects, so you have a lot to work with. Perhaps you don’t have the ability to identify who they may be? I understand E0S……..Your all talk….
Don’t be scared – Put up or shut up…
removing 21 of 254 ( last year’s class) is 8.25% but in reality your 21 bites are top heavy so more realistically you removed 21 of the top 60 prospects or a third —
I’ll pass on your stacked deck challenge.
You’re a coward that knows nothing, that’s why you’re scared to take it on.
Ethan Westbrooks, Jeremiah George, Cory Washington, Nickoe Whitley, Logan Thomas, Andrew Jackson, and Walt Aikens, are among the top 500, not top 60 – There is already a sign of a lack of knowledge, on your part that I makes me laugh…
Stop Bitching Coward!!! and step up, so I don’t have to hear anymore bullshit on your part all season, when I expose YOU, for the fraud that you are…….You’re all talk…
That broken down for you is: 4 in the top 60, 8 in the top 100, 4 in the top 300, and 8 in the top 500……Evenly spread out, leaving plenty for you to mock…
I bet you, Paul, Eaglehaslanded, Biglion, Nugreenbol, Real Talk, Greenfan and DCar, could come up with some prospects that I didn’t mention that they are confident will excel in the NFL…..
It’s only a real challenge for those that really don’t know, but love to criticize the choices of others…This time I want you to be proactive, and choose.
Lets go coward….
LOL, those deer are out of season besides you are only interested in shooting this here feral hog eating your peanuts and corn crop
Look below at the responses….Again you are all alone in your opinion.
Warm up those little nuts, and get to giving me some names….
You didnt name me but I’m going to tell you who will be a STUD in the NFL, though I’m sure you already know. Ka’Deem Carey from the University of Arizona… he will be a top 5 running back in the league, maybe not rookie year, but he will be.
Welcome aboard anti trust….
I welcome all brother. Give me a list of your studs – excluding my players.
I have a few:
Dominique Easley from Florida… if he heals well he will be a very good pro
Ka’Deem Carey… this guy is awesome, he will be a 1000 yard + producer for many years
Anthony Barr – noticed he wasnt on your list, should be a good one
Brandon Coleman WR – If the Eagles could get him in round 4 or so, I’d be very happy… great size and athleticism, very good blocker for a WR (chip likes those), and I think Chip could help him take it to the next level.
See that …….That’s what I’m talking about Trusty….Thank You!
Eagles0Superbowls, is crying, because he feels he’s limited in his choices. I mentioned, I didn’t name a lot in the top 25, and Anthony Barr, was one of them.
I have noted your list, and I will keep an eye on their progress, or bust potential, because you have some on that list…….
Well Easley had a major injury so you never know how a player will recover… but if he comes back 100% i think he will be a beast
Ka’Deem Carey, IMO, will only be a bust if he gets an injury, knock on wood
Coleman could very well be a bust, but I think he is worth a pick between the 4-6 rounds because of his potential, size, athleticism and red zone threat. I think he could work well with Nick Foles, as coleman doesnt have the best of hands, but Foles throws a very catchable ball.
That’s true Trust…we’ll keep an eye on him…best to you..
This apple has more room on it for more than 21 bites…stop bitching, and get to giving me some names…..
LOL (I’m gonna take a bite of that apple)….you definitely left a lot of players to work with. Here’s my list. I’m not identifying rounds.
Stanley Jean Baptiste CB
Calvin Pryor FS
Deone Bucannon SS
Kelvin Benjamin WR
Justin Ellis NT
Christian Jones ILB/OLB
Dee Ford DE/OLB
Darqueze Denard CB
Anthony Barr OLB
Sammy Watkins WR
Aaron Colvin. CB..(if he recovers from ACL injury which he should. Not impact this year due to injury).
Kyle VanNoy OLB/ILB jack of all trades
Telvin Smith LB
Yawin Smallwood ILB
My Diamonds in the Rough
Cassius Marsh DE UCLA
Jordan Zumwalt ILB
Dri Archer WR/KR
Shaq Evan WR
Few more names I will add later who are from smaller schools.
Thank you Eagle!!
I’ve already mentioned that you, and others with insight could give me a list, whether I agree with it or not.
But do you notice, that my critics, haven’t wrote a damn thing, and are crying about I’ve taken some players off the board.
There are thousands of Prospects, and they haven’t given me nothing yet…..I don’t think they can, because all they CAN DO, is heckle those who actually have a real grasp on talent, and don’t want me to call them on the carpet for fear of embarrassment.
Yet I do believe half of your list will be bust…Thank you for your participation Eagle…..
LOL …it’s all good. I forgot Martaivis Bryant too. The beauty of this is that we can watch our prospects either flourish or become busts.
I got you Eagle….That’s right……E0S, doesn’t want to name anybody, because he knows I’m gonna bust that ass when he’s wrong..
gmc, why are you even getting all fired up over these know-nothing, ball-less, biased, agenda based morons on here? They do nothing but, go out of their way to irrationally argue with, & to rip someone, who has the balls to criticize the warranted, & have the smarts to have an eye for talent, although not a professional talent evaluator. Although, some of your trade scenarios are off the wall, & not likely, you have a very good eye on College talent, & have been on the ball for the last 3 years, I’ve been on here. The problem with these nitwits on here, is they think because we ain’t professional talent evaluators, or in any teams FO’s, that we don’t know what we are talking about. You never here them bring anything of value to the table, as to how to make our teams better, or how to improve upon past mistakes, only to come on here, & rip us for being so-called armchair GM’s. I’ve been spot on about the Phillies for 3 full years now, but get crucified annually, by the internet nazis, & correction officers, although I’m correct 99.9% of the time. Although I’ve been wrong about Kelly & his staff, I’m still correct about Weaselmans talent evaluation, that he is a glorified bean counter, & shouldn’t have the position he has. He tries to brainwash people into thinking he had nothing to do with anything prior to last year. It’s BS! All but 2-3 players he signed last year, were flops, & wrong signings. Especially still being under $20M+ under the cap. It must be nice being the Salary cap Bowl Championship every year? I’ll be happy, with being a brutally honest, truthful, insightful, fact based person, rather than being, a pom-pom waving, fearful, brain-less, ball-less, lemming. Don’t get too aggravated, that’s what the condescending trolls want!
GMCliff, I’m not the jackass who ruined their Eagles season DVR rewinding Lane Johnson plays searching for that “Gotcha” mistake – that dingbat was you. I once played fantasy football but stopped when I was cheering for Jay Novacek in Vet stadium to score a TD.
Nobody has to do that, and neither do I. When you watch the game impartially….you just see it in reference to Lame Johnson.
Enough of that bullshit..Gimme your names……
and yes you are a Jackass…..Believe it
I’m not fired up DCar. I’m not even arguing. Not at all.
I’m challenging them to be proactive in there talent evaluation, instead of waiting for an opportunity to be critical of the ones that are more insightful when it’s convenient….This year it’s put up or shut up…
You notice they are avoiding taking on the challenge right?
That’s what they are good at! Criticism, with no context, reasoning, nor rational thinking. They bring nothing to the table, only BS comments, & irrational arguments. F^#@ EM all! I have fun talking about draft, FA, & ways to make my teams better.
My Man!!!
I rarely pick names of draftees Eagles will select. That’s a fool’s game because I have no idea what the other teams are going to do.
I amy like certain players….for example over recent drafts I’ve touted Kuchely, Ertz, Cousins and others. (See, I wanted the Eagles to select Cousins – I didn’t know much about Foles – but didn’t “mock” him to the Eagles because I am never going to pretend to guess what the other teams are going to do)
Besides only 30% of draftees make it.
I will however, tell you which positions the Birds will draft first couple of rounds, exactly like I did last year, when I wrote:
“Not going to name names, because less than 30% of draftees work out….so just positions….
1 – OT (whichever of the 3)
2 – Whichever of ND or Stanford”
I had the Eagles choices nailed exactly while 1/2 this board was rambling about trading down, and Star Lauouille, and Geno Smith.
I knew where the Eagles were going in the draft because I understand the coach.
Of course, this prediction was met by derision and petty jokes, even though it was exactly what happened.
I will do the same this year. Right now I believe the Eagles will again go OL with the first pick, (everyone on here disagrees – which makes me even more confident in the choice) but I’ll have a better feeling as the draft gets closer.
As for your ‘challenge’ GMCliff….I’ll give you some names of players who wil be successful whereever they go….and I’ll do it before the draft,
…..but your little “you can’t pick the same players as I’ve mentioned” caveat is ridiculous. Why the hell can’t anyone else pick the same guy? You have exclusive dibs? That’s stupid.
Give them to me right now Vinnie. Why wait?…I’ve been told, that all of you, are just as insightful. I want all of you to prove it to me.
You haven’t been limited, there are too many other draft picks that some think highly of, for you guys to be bitching about it…LETS GO…
Before the combine Vinnie….
I don’t want you, E0S, OR OTHERS pretending that you have a clue, based on the opinions, of Mayock, Kiper, and McShay…….I want to hear and see what you know YOURSELF……..so I need your names before the combine.
I’m waiting..
Listen…As I have mentioned about 50000x, I am in Scotland right now. I did not watch one College game this year, so right now I am well behind in any predictions about what will happen at the draft or what players will grade out better than others.
And frankly, I’m a little too busy at the moment with other project than to spend hours pouring over scouting analysis over a whole NFL drafting process that I, in no way, influence.
So I’l start naming a couple guys when I get around to it…..not when you “demand” it. And they may, or may not be on your “dibs” list because I am not in grade 5 anymore and could care less whether you “claim” them as “your” selections or not.
I will tell you this…..Eagles; fans might be a little suprised if either Ebron or Seferian-Jenkins is still available when the Eagles select……though for now I’ll stick with the Eagles’ first pick being a o lineman
But I have noticed you have time to comment on other post on GCobb.com. So, you have time to give me your players, whether you’re in Scotland, or Tasmania.
I’ll take that as begging off,…..
That’s one more critic exposed fellas…knows nothing, but wants to criticize….
I will give a list of Names of Players who I like
in this Draft who I believe will become good
NFL Players in a little bit..
I know you can Paul, and please do. So when you are wrong I can remind you too….LOL!!!
Thank you my friend….
Ha Ha — I am sure I will miss on some, I always do…but I’ll hit on a few too..
I will go with 5 Prospects for each Round that I like as good fits for the Eagles based on Schemes,Smarts,Toughness & versatility and to add depth and starter potentions to Positions of Need …
I will not include Players who I feel won’t be even be on the Board for the Eagles to select (like J Clowney, S Mack, A Barr,etc,etc) for then, the list gets too large to manage …
So my list will stay with Potential Eagle Selections and not who can be a Good NFL Player for there would too many to list for some Players I feel will be good NFL Players, but are not a Fit for the Eagles Scheme
How does this format sound to you…
Paul, this isn’t just for the Eagles. You’rer providing names of those who you feel are going to be impact, and or Potential Superstars.
Paul, the point is we ALL do miss, nobody gets it right 100% of the time…it’s impossible.
but when year in, year out, some point out the few that you missed, it gets to be annoying knowing that they don’t have half the knowledge of some.
Go ahead and list them..3/4 of your list will be bust anyway….LOL!!!!
This is called nipping that shit in the bud for these other guys….
I can list good overall Player Prospects, but i rather Focus on who best fits the Eagles and who they actually have potential to Draft
I can get another list of Players who I feel will be good NFL Players regardless of what Team or where they are Drafted..
It doesn’t matter Paul, just give the names…
GMCliff – why are you interested in setting a rigid time frame and personnel restrictions?
You sound like a defeated man already.
What rigid time frame? Some have already given names, and have no problem with it.
What personnel restrictions? Those are players identified by GMCliff, = I’ll be damn, if you share any credit with me for anything.
Look, stop your whining, and bitchin. Last year, I had to inconvenience myself, and do a mock draft based on how Howie did it, knowing the best thing for the Eagles was to trade down.
So you can do the same….Before the combine, and preferably now, sense you put your foot in your mouth, and said I was average like the rest of you….Well Big Mouth, put up or shut up….with no help from the media, or combine so- called experts….
Like I said put up or shut up……All you’ve done is Bitch – Give me some names or shut the hell up.
did those players already sign a letter of intent with you, if so what office did they submit the paper work to so I can verify your ownership?
Stop Bitching, and write the list of players..
You don’t want any of my players anyway…right?
Put up, or Shut up………