The head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles has one full season in the books. I like to categorize it as a “successful” season and not one in which we “over-achieved.”
We know now that his college football I.Q. can translate to success at the professional level. The pace of his offense can be sustained throughout an entire season. Chip can win without a mobile quarterback.
His offensive system helped multiple McCoy win the rushing title. Desean Jackson rebounded with his most productive season of his career. Nick Foles accomplished personal accolades that connects his name with current NFL MVP’s who will one day be enshrined in Canton.
Off the field, Chip likes to stay out of the media as much as he can get away with. When he does talk, it’s a brash, cocky, combative tone and choice of words. He knows football. He wants to keep it to football. All Chip cares about is being successful at coaching football.
This desire to be great, combined with success in his rookie season, helps build the “In Chip We Trust” motto layer by layer.
Much has changed since the end of the 2013 season. Chip played the “majority” role in releasing the most talented wide receiver on the roster. Chip stayed silent during and after the entire ordeal and referring to the decision as purely “football,” it takes a certain type of person.
It requires someone that is confident in his system. A person with trusts the coaching staff and truly knows the talent level with the remaining players on his roster.
No longer are we in that “rebuilding” or “retooling” mindset, our expectations have been raised. We now expect this team to repeat as divisional winners and compete in the playoffs.
Behind the new era of football, is still a “mystery” man to all of us. What we don’t know is exciting.
What will season two of the Chip Kelly era bring to Eagle fans?
They are still rebuilding.
Yes- Co-signed!
This the off-season that we really see Chip Kelly mold the Eagles into his likeness and there will be 2-3 Quality Veterans released or traded
As we they head from the OTA’s and into Camp
He is going to expect & demand a 100% buy in by his Players and for those who are not will no longer be in Philly..
This will be a huge Camp for the following Players
Curry, Carrol, Wolff, Krueger & B Fletcher on Defense (I have Brandon Graham as a goner already)
On Offense, it will be Maclin, Casey Herremans & Polk who all have to elevate their games and assimilate to what Kelly is teaching them..
Of course all the Rookies will be watched very closely and will be expected
To learn the system, retain information and bring energy and confidence to their play even though it may be limited at first
Remember that Kelly comes from the a College Ranks and is used to having Players come and go and expects the next Set of Players to execute at a high level. He will assemble on of the best Special Teams units in the NFL for he now knows how important and a table setter this is during the Games
Last year was holding things together, evaluating whose in and whose not for you can’t get rid of too many Players without giving them an opportunity
To see how they fit under his “System” and now that this has been done
Kelly will hold Players and his Staff more accountable, especially DC Bill Davis who will continue to have to make substantial improvements with his Defense
In terms of defending the Pass, Rushing the Passer and 3rd Down a Stops..
There will be some good Competition all across the Team this Summer
Along the WR group, backup RB & QB Positions as well across the OL
And on Defense, every positional group will have competition
From the DL,LB’s and the Secondary..
These Players they added this Off-Season all have 1 thing in common
And that is they want to play and start in the NFL so players like Jenkins,
Maragos,Carroll, Braman are going to go full bore which is what you want to see in new additions to the Team to raise everyone’s level
I still would have liked to see an Veteran ILB and DT added to the mix,
But you can’t have everything I guess..
It’s way early but I like the make up of this Team thus far, and look forward to the battles in Camp and the Progress from the Rookie Class who I believe will
Add to the young Core of Players added the last 2 Drafts to make a solid Team
For now and in the Future.
as far as the Rookies go, probably Huff makes the quickest adjustment
Since he knows the system somewhat and the slot & return games are natural for his talents and needed by the Eagles
Marcus Smith, Jordan Mathhews, Jaylen Watkins will all an adjustment period to the Eagles System and to the NFL but will develop well under the Eagles Staff, which is a good one..
Go Eagles
Don’t forget Paul, about the Dennis Dixon experiment; Knowing the system didn’t seem to help him make this team……I think Josh Huff, should make his mark with the Eagles as a KR/PR, occasionally making plays ala Jason Avant, but much faster after the catch…..
An upgrade from both Avant, and Damarus Johnson…..
BTW, I LOVE the Jordan Matthews pick. Would have loved for them to have gotten Cody Latimer to pair with him for the future….But, I guess not everybody has a killer instinct like we do when it comes to building a Championship team…..
I still feel we need Linebackers – ILB, and OLB. Also, next year we are going to have to consider the Offensive Line OT and OG, Cornerback, Wide Receiver(again), and we still need another Safety – “Please don’t give me Earl Wolfe”….We need another Safety……
Next year it will be “we have high hopes for Ed Reynolds” after they realize that Wolff is not a quality starter.
Right JBird!!!
Dixon was brought in simply as a Camp Body and to help other QB’s
learn Kelly’s System better and was not looked at as a Player with any long-term potential to really help the Eagles…
Playing QB and contributing at WR/Return Game are 2 different things..
Huff will be the Slot WR, run some end-arounds, bubble routes and contribute with the Return Teams and basically replaced Damarus Johnson who has done nothing in his 2 Years of Opportunities with the Eagles.. Huff will also replace Avant’s role out of the Slot on 3rd Down and basically has the Skills to replace both Players on the Roster saving a Roster Spot for Coach Kelly
No, that wasn’t the thinking of most last year…..Some, even in the media, looked at him as a bridge between himself as a starter, and eventually who some felt was Kelly’s choice to QB the Eagles into the future – Marcus Mariota….with Vick released, and Foles traded..
My point was that knowing the system, or Kelly, isn’t an advantage for anyone, except Casey Matthews…..
Not by knowledgeable Fans Cliff, Everyone knows that Dixon is not an NFL QB and just would not have Success at the NFL Level..
Knowing “Chips System” will be huge for WR Josh Huff and also
for DE Taylor Hart coming in who played under Defensive Line Coach Jerry A while at Oregon..
Familiarity within a “system” means comfort & confidence where players don’t have to think much, it does not replace Talent one iota, but take a Talented Player and put him in a familiar system and that Player has a leg up starting out, now what they do with it is up to them..
Yeah all right we’ll see.
I predict that Taylor Hart will be another political roster move like Casey Matthews, and won’t mean crap to the Eagles in the long, or short run…..
or Curtis Marsh, funny how you skip over the bust 3rd round pick who is still on the team that went a whole round earlier than Casey Matthews who sees less field time than him.
Maybe, maybe not! The guys that we havent seen play on a pro level always seems better than the bench guys we have that we have seen and have not performed up to expectation. Demarus Johnson is almost has fast as DJax, we saw him make one or two plays in exhibition….but for some reason he didnt perform well. We cant predict how well this draft class plays until we see them on the field
We need to get something in return for Brandon Graham. We already lost DJax and got nothing in return. 1st round pick & 2nd pick out the door. Pathetic
I think its a HUGE year for Fletcher Cox. With Krueger coming back from injury and reportedly gaining 20 pounds of muscle he is up to 290 lbs at 6’6 and the addition of Hart who will need a year to get stronger and his body type redefined who Chip loves I think the top 15 pick Cox has 1 more year to justify his salary and spot on the team. There will be no longer the adjusting to the 3-4 for him. He better wreak havoc on the dline to justify his draft position. I can clearly see them going with Krueger and and Hart in 2015.
When your best dlineman is a UFA (Cedric Thorton) and you draft a D tackle in the 5th round this year and 7th round last year that may give you the same production as your top 15 pick then you have a problem. Cox better be bringing the “heat” this year.
Cox is a 4-3 tackle not a 3-4 end, he’ll be playing elsewhere in 2015, what I expect in year 2 is a continuation of year 1. A division title and a playoff win if they do the same as last year that’s fine as well. Don’t want to here anything about going backwards or they may have a better team and a worse record. That my friends is a heaping pile of crap. There are no prizes for being better without winning. Period.
Agree with you BL. No going backwards.
we should have grabbed Nix from Notre Dame in the third round…he was there for the taking…Cox wont be productive until you get a stud space eater in the middle
Dag, I see all of them, Krueger, Long, and Hart, being totally irrelevant in their careers for the Eagles. Perhaps one of them may be a replacement for Brandon Graham, but I don’t see anything there to rationalize about. I feel all three of them stink.
Being big doesn’t mean they can play…………
Cannot argue with you there…..
Thank you Cliff, my sentiments exactly.
True GMCliff but what would you rather have a Cox who is a 1st round pick and will be up for a long term contract who cant play or 2 cheaper low round picks who cant play? Im not going to compound my mistake by giving Cox a long term deal.
Logical, as usual Dag….I guess the plan I would have for that, would have to be to either trade Cox after the season, for a draft pick, and find his replacement in Free agency, or a trade.
This is why, I was so hard up fro them signing Lamarr Houston – who would have been the perfect replacement, or a trade for Ndomukong Suh.
I mentioned right after the season that Kruger put on muscle and is looking to make a huge impact come camp. And that was sort of a “phantom injury” they knew the rookie wasn’t ready for action, he still had a college body etc, so like the Steelers, they stashed their rookie, got his body fat down and muscle up and now the following year is ready to make an impact..
He knows the system and what will be asked of him so I expect much from Kruger who does have a brother in the league that can play also, Paul Kruger..
We’ll be talking about Joe Kruger this yr, for positive things..
Okay JH, we’ll see brother……
The 2nd team dline will be hart,Allen & Kruger I think vinny curry gets traded and if they need a pass rusher there they will slip trent cole down there and I think Brandon graham stays for that reason. Wouldn’t shock me if they end up starting Boykin this year opposite Williams cause if they don’t I think Boykin is out of here when his contract is up.
Keep in mind that Vinny Curry, is your best pass rusher, on a team with still no pass rush Smitty……..Why shoot yourself in the foot?
And neither Hart, nor Krueger are going to get more time than Marcus Smith.
There isn’t a team out there that has 20-25 studs on the team. So why does everyone just beat on the Eagles? I bet everyone they have drafted the last 2 years would be picked up by another team if they were cut. Everyone they drafted had a draft grade and none were UDFA grades.
This isn’t Madden, its the NFL. Teams have a few studs, some very good players, some good players, and some role players.
The Eagles are the defending NFC East champs, and they have improved this off season as much as any other NFC East team.
Great post Iggles.
Not on Defense they haven’t…….
Cliff, why do you say that? I thought you liked the Malcom Jenkins signing. Also, the fact that they cut Chung alone means the defense has improved.
BTC, Malcolm Jenkins, Safety spot, is just one of many spots on Defense that has to be upgraded. Its silly to assume they have improved because of the presence of one upgrade.
Yes they cut Chung, but Nate Allen, is still on this team, and some are still rationalizing that Earl Wolfe, is a true starter. On top of that we still DON’T have a Pass Rush; We have to wait assumingly 2-3 years for Marcus Smith to come into his own.
I like Watkins, but he still needs to learn the Defense. That being said, our CB’s are the same as they were last year. We cannot continue being content with those two playing over their head, or a lucky bounce here, and there.
hey haven’t improved, – referencing Chung as evidence of improvement, is just shortsighted……..because, outside Malcolm Jenkins, and a below average Wolfe, we still have the same talent starting….
I had to log in and personally shake Iggles hand!! WTF is wrong with this fanbase? If we don’t have the second coming of somebody that player is always trash!! Seattle did not have studs at every position. But they had players who were hungry and competed with coaches who put them in position to shine and make played. Cox is a very good player. You can’t have 3 defensive coordinators in 3 years and expect that player or defense to be elite. Cox is still 22-23 years old. His ceiling hasn’t even begun to be reached. Just enjoy the ride and think this way Pete Caroll did it his way and won a ring. Harbaugh built a time sort of his way and has been contending every year. People chill. This team is gonna shock again
Last year was an 8-8 team that got lucky. 10-6 and competetive loss in the first round is still actually progress. Foles rounds into form as new WRs and Ertz ascend. Smith, Hart and Watkins prepare for their starting roles next year in a defense that is much improved if Cox and Kendricks find consistency this year.
JBird, that is more true than some would like to admit……
2015 will be special.
2015 will be a major disappointment. 7-9 no playoffs…book it and I’m owning up to that prediction…hope I’m wrong and you guys can bash da hell out of me….but we have taken a major step backwards and I dont think we drafted that well to change my prediction!
You mean this Season KB, in 2014 or are you writing off the 2015 Season as well already…
2014, typo
Kool if they take a step back it won’t be because of this draft class, it will be because they haven’t addressed the defensive needs as aggressively as they should have.
The Eagles are rebuilding this Defense from the Ground Up and are not, let me repeat, are not going to add any big-name Free-Agents to this Side of the Ball.. It’s not what Coach Kelly or GM Roseman will do and have stated so many times over the last Year
Instead they Draft them, Coach them up, Create Competition and continue to build a Roster of Quality Players, who are smart, athletic, a strong work ethic and big…
In Recent Drafts, they have added Cox,Logan,Kendricks,Boykin & Wolf & Krueger now this Draft, they add Marcus Smith, Jaylen Watkins, Taylor Hart, Ed Reynolds & Beau Allen
Anyone who thinks the Eagles were going to go out and Sign a Jarius Byrd or pursue CB D Revis or A Talib just doesn’t understand how Kelly/Roseman are going about reshaping this Roster
Keep Building up your false hopes for help to come thru Free-Agency for it’s not going to happen as long as Roseman/Kelly & even Lurie are around..
Whatever then maybe they need to find some better players the defense as currently constructed isn’t a very good defense and adding a bunch of marginal talents isn’t going to win you anything either. Just because they have a vision doesn’t mean it’s the correct one. But keep drinking that kool aid.
LOL!!! You’re right Biggie…..
I don’t Drink Kool-Aid, I am just telling you
both how they are going to operate under this Kelly/Roseman Era and to hope for otherwise is just foolish and Shiws that your not paying close attention to the Team you say you support and love ..
Paulman my critiques are because I am paying attention and not regurgitating the company line. You pay attention when all these if’s don’t pan out. If I found Doc Brown’s Delorean and travelled back in time I could fix all the problems since JJ left but that ain’t happening either.
I agree Biglion…I am saying that nothing they did in the draft makes me change my prediction-7-9 is what I predicted before the draft and now after the draft. They were not aggressive enough in free agency
We’ll get used to KB,
Eagles will not be big players in Free-Agency
anytime in the near Future..
Key Term is “Targeted Veterans” to add Depth & Competition,
Which anotherwords, means more 2nd Tier Players
Like Maragos,Barman & Carroll that the signed this year..
Safety Jenkins was the only real Starter/Big Name they signed
and even he was considered a middle of the road Safety by most NFL
Observors..
Hey koolbreeze, when will you “own-up” to some of these stupid statements that you made last year? Anybody who cares to can go back and read all your unenlightened remarks from last season and see that you have zero credibility……..
koolbreeze
November 9, 2013 – 12:38 pm
Mariotta is clearly amongst the top rated Qb’s that would be in this years draft…that indicates to me that many of the QB’s who will be available for the Eagles are not ready. Foles has a shot…if Vick remains injured…Foles has a shot to get this team in this weak division in the playoffs…we have two games coming up against teams with injuries and a weak defense (Washington)….lets see what Foles got! I say he will fall short and we will need Mike Vick to come in and give us a shot for the playoffs!
koolbreeze
November 5, 2013 – 6:38 pm
I disagree with G about Vick…I think Foles will fold and Kelly will put Vick in if for no other reason to vigorate the running game! Foles has a chance…but I don’t think he is up to the challenge!
what’s to own up to? I said he has a “shot”…he took the shot and made it last year…and we barely got in the playoffs and lost.
What’s to own-up to? How about this:
“I say he will fall short and we will need Mike Vick to come in and give us a shot for the playoffs! ”
We all know that you missed the mark on that call. Or this:
“I think Foles will fold and Kelly will put Vick in if for no other reason to vigorate the running game!”
And of course, that call was also incorrect.
You pretty much promised that every week was going to be the week that Foles was exposed. But, that week never came….
Foles brought the team back in the fourth quarter of the playoff game (walked off the field for the final time with the lead), only to have the kicker and defense give the lead back with no time on the clock.
Foles then went on to be the pro bowl MVP.
And then, to top it off…. the guy who you predicted would be our savior, and in your words, “give us a shot for the playoffs!” – ” vigorate the running game!”…. instead got splinters in his ass, then tossed to the curb.
LOL
And I said Kruger and hart are the 2nd team de’s cause Kelly wants size and curry doesn’t bring that and there spots have nothing to with smith, cause you can slide trent cole into Curtis spot in padding downs and have smith,graham,Kendrick’s and Barwin all on the field at once
He’s 6-3 275, quick as a cat for a man his size, and better than all 3 that you’ve mentioned hands down…..What are you talking about Smitty??
and who is Curtis??
7-9
Defense will get smashed right up the gut and teams will continue to pass right over the “soft” middle of the secondary.
That’s what we can expect in Chip’s 2nd year.
The Eagles will dread the year they passed Manziel for a stiff named Foles who everyone in the world will forget played for the Eagles 10 years from now.
Foles just don’t have the “it” factor.
He’s just a guy.
Easy Richard, stop hating on the Eagles so much.
Another fool on this site said the same thing about foles. He doesn’t have “it”….
What are you really saying and have the temerity to say it songs, tell us the truth, why doesn’t foles have “it”
No Jake a fool is looking at you every time you look in the mirror, if having it means having one good season and losing in the first round if the playoffs then yes ole Nick has it, now if he keeps it, is still to be determined. LOL
Nobody envisioned the Eagles even making the Playoffs and winning the NFC East,especially after their 1-2 Start to open the Season
You guys crack me with this Super Bowl or Bust Mentality as if that’s really going to change your live’s .. It’s Football, it’s the Eagles and they are building a Fun and very competitive Team, so let’s enjoy it while we can..
Speak for yourself, real talk, myself and a few others were on here saying we thought they could win the division based on the other teams in the division, so try again buddy.
And it still means nothing Biggy,
The Eagles are not ready to compete with the Big Boys of the NFC for at least another Season or Two..
Seahawks,49ers,Packers & Saints are heads & above the Eagles right now who are 2nd Tier along with the Bears,Cardinals,Panthers
It’s what it is with Teams like the Rams,TB Bucs & Giants Vack on the rise…it should be an exciting Season..
Stop paulman there isn’t a guy in that locker room who doesn’t think they are Super Bowl bound and that’s the way it should be, they were competing with the big boys last year. You play the games and if your lucky enough to get to the Super Bowl so be it. Building programs is for the NCAA.
Yup! I agree..but after Foles folds this year we may be able to re-coup and get a QB in the upcoming draft
The eagles have released Eagles release WR Arrelious Benn.
Gloomy is this how you see the week one receiving core too?
1. Maclin
2. Cooper
3 Matthews
4 Huff
one spot open maybe 2. Who gets the spot?
Jeff Maehl for sure, he’s a Chip Kelky guy..
as long as Mike Vick is gone the Eagles have a chance to win every game. That stiff’s presence was a disaster and laugh every time I hear NFL or ESPN give Mike Vick a vote of confidence as the NY Jets starting QB.
I get a laugh at you everytime his name comes off your keyboard. I guess we all have something to laugh about. LOL. One thing I don’t laugh about is his bank account compared to mine and I feel safe to say yours as well. I guess Vick has the last laugh. Whatcha think?
LOL yep Vick and that thug DJax.
Yeah that is how I see it with brad smith or damauris Johnson on the 5th spot.
Eagles vs Colts week 2 just got easier. Pro Bowl DE Robert Mathis and his 19.5 sacks has been suspended 4 games for PEDS.(Hes claiming it was a fertility drug and will appeal). Wow what a shock! His previous career high was 11 sacks. Every player in every sport whose production sky rockets after the age of 30 in even sport should be tested for PEDs because it just isn’t natural. Hell ever younger players ala Freddy Galvis who are career .200 hitters and all of the sudden are smacking the ball all around the ball park. Hell I remember when Raul Ibanez had 25 HRs by the all-star break a few years back at the age of 38.lol. Then there were rumblings about PEDs surfaced and all of the sudden he doesn’t have 20 HRs in the last 3 years combined.
saw on the evening local news Rookie Camp video jersey #’s
#81 Matthews
#11 Huff
Paulman is wearing my lucky old Number of
#37..
They are a 9-10 win team. Division champs. Bounced round 1 of the playoffs.
7-8 win team if they don’t care of business in the division.
I Kelly’s scheme is a good regular year scheme particularly in a weak division – but not very good (particularly with this defense) come playoff time.
If the Skins or Giants catch lightning in a bottle look out. Could be a long year for the Eagles.
This team is still rebuilding. They have changed from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense (Thankfully-it’s better for the modern NFL)It takes time to make that transition.
When you Hear PASS RUSHER they now mean an OLB not a DE.
This team will play hard – I expect a few surprise cuts of veterans of trades if the rookies and second year players start pushing for playing time.
You can only hope racist tsjohnson
Eagles in the nfc championship game
Go talk to biglion
Yeah ’cause the Eagles are likely to beat:
San Fran
Seattle
Arizona
Rams
Carolina
New Orleans
On their way to the NFC Championship…
K.
Let’s examine the end of last season closely.
Eagles played Green Bay without Aaron Rogers – W
(Green bay would be a 5 win team without Rogers.)
Eagles played the Vikings without Adrian Pederson and a garbage QB.
Lost 48-30
Played The Cowboys without Romo and Ware, barely squeeking out a win 24-22.
That speaks volumes, yet apologists want to front as if Foles is the next Tom Brady.
I can’t wait to see Foles totally exposed this coming season only to hear the apologists csay…”We all knew Foles couldn’t have the same TD to interception ratio 2 seasons in a row”.
or
“Foles took a step back but still have upside.”
I’ll say it right now!!!!
We have seen the best of Foles and he will be atrocious this coming season and will never get close to what he did last year.
The end of last season showed us the true Foles.
Scared as hell, throwing intentional grounding balls to the dirt.
Dink and Dunk.
I really hope Chip have his QB in mind for next year’s draft.
We’re going to need him.
Tim Tebow…
Who are you calling “WE” you loser fraud?
You are a Redskins fan who likes to troll this site. Go spout your bullshit with skins fans, we see through your stupid comments.
Screw yourself FraudSongs. Take your pathetic attempts and homophobic rants to a ‘Skins site. We have grown tired of your trolling act.
Choice A) Nick Foles 8-2 as a starter in 2013–
Choice B) Mike Vick 2-4 as a starter in 2013–
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is the only stat I need to be happy that stiff Mike Vick is GONE
Here, Here..E0SB
EOS lets be fair here. What would Foles record of been if he started vs Denver and KC early in the season?
Im not saying Foles didn’t have a great year minus the 30 let me take a 15 yard sack and take no chances mentality as he ran around like a deer learning to walk. He clearly played well and is our QB to lead us forward. But the 8-2 vs 2-4 record is fine but you must tell me who they both played. Just curious.
Foles would have beaten the Chargers early on
Vick f-d the entire final drive up as well as Coach Kelky did..
Paulman I can play that game to. Vick may have beaten the worst defense in the NFL the Cowboys twice and not struggled.Every QB in the NFL lt them up. Almost every QB.
And what does this matter for the 2015 Season Dag?
Vick is gone, the Team has moved on and it’s a brand new Season upon us, why bother regurgitating last Season for it has nothing to do with the here and now..
shut up songs, it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Paulman I have question for you. Out of the last 10 games last year which team besides the Cardinal do you consider a good defense? Better yet a top 20 defense. Are these the bottom 8 worst defenses in the NFL? Just a question. Those were the Eagles last 10 opponents.
Cowboys
Giants
Raiders
Packers
Redskins
Cardinals
Lions
Vikings
Bears
Cowboys
I can gladly but there rankings by there names if you like. The only way the Eagles could of played a easier defensive schedule is if they played themselves.
None of them were too good as the Eagles Defense wasn’t that good either but did a better job of keeping Teams out of the end zone and created more turnovers than recent Eagle Defenses so there is hope and a foundation to build on after their 1st Season in a 3-4 Scheme with 5-6 new Players contributing..
Here’s my question,
How many Teams last Season truly had a Good Defense
I count 4-5 Teams
Seahawks, 49ers,Cardinals, Bengals, Panthers & Saints
And that was about it in the NFL
Broncos,Patriots,Ravens & Steelers all had Defenses with holes
and weaknesses.. Just like the Eagles did
Chiefs Defense faded down the stretch
Bottom line, the Eagles the last 8-10 Weeks of the 2014 Playoffs were
Playing as well as anyone in the NFL, minus the Seahawks, Broncos & Chargers were..
It’s how you finish down the stretch as a Team which is most important
So the bottom line is if you play the worst 8 defenses in the NFL your odds of putting up numbers is a HELL of a lot easier than putting up numbers versus say the top 15 defenses couple that with a freak snow storm, no Rogers, no Romo, a gimp RGIII and a historic turnover machine in Eli, Then throw in a momentum changing insertion of Cutler you start to wonder is the glass half empty or half full. That gives some reason to pump the breaks just a bit don’t ya think.
don’t worry about that, Mike Vick will get a fair and square chance to be the starter in NY and then that weak fragile tiny body of his will limp off the field week one and play at 50% for the next 4 Jet games until the stretcher carries him off permanently this time
E0S, so what he doesn’t play in Philly so why is it an issue? I guess you have to take up the battle now that Vinnie has moved on.
The bottom line is to Win more Games over your Divisional Opponents
So you can make the Playoffs, how you do it, who Plays or Injured or bad calks or bad weather is irrelavant.. Why are u being so negative!!!
The Eagles went 10-6 in a brand new system in a first year with new Coachibg Staff , with an average Team…
What are u bitching about?
we’re bitching because the Eagles could have done more to compete this off season.
They continue to sell this fan base that likes of Nate Allen when Jarius Byrd is right there for the taken.
With a shit load of money they sign a saints cast off that got torched last season while the Saint improve their defense with Jarius Byrd.
The Saints are not content with a one win playoff appearance!!!!
you get it?
Maybe a fan base who are use to losing feel last season was a success that don’t fly in winning cities.
The Eagles are in no position to think they invented football.
They continually lack a key piece or two every offseason and go the cheap route stuffing Lurie’s coffer.
That’s why we’re bitching.
What’s it going to be paulman, scroll up you were debating me and saying the exact opposite. Not ready for the big boys and all, that was you right? So your taking both sides of the debate?
Playing both sides of what… The Eagles are an average Team as I have stated numerous time and probably with be a 8 to 10 Win Team in 2014
and compete for the weak NFC East Crown and then get bounced in the Playoffs versus the Top Team.. So what, tell me something I don’t already know…but what I am telling you that you can’t seem to get thru your thick skulls is that the eagles under Kelly/Roseman are going to buikld thru the Draft and not plug band-aids with High Dollar free-Agents.. They both have publicly stated this, and this is there Plan moving forward, so why do you keep expecting something different..
False hopes for you guys… I wil lenjoy this 2014 Season and see this Young Roster Improve and grow in their 2nd Year under Kelly and whether they win 8-9-10-12 Games and get bounced out early, or make a deep run or miss the Playoffs entirely, is not going to cause me to lost any sleep or hair.. It’s Football… You guys act like it’s life or death, likes it’s your $$$ or something, and if they Win a Championship that somehow your Life is going to Change.. .. What wacko’s, You guy’s crack me up…
You have lost your mind, are you actually talking to yourself? The same logic you’re using I could throw right back at you. Why do you care who they sign or draft or what money they spend? Or what philosophy they choose in doing so? Why were you hoping and praying they got rid of Vick or DJax, did that make your life any better? So who’s the wacko?
I am telling you how things are run down at Novacare in 2014 and beyond (while Kelky/GM Roseman are here) and you seem to not be able to understand or accept it..
LOL dude you don’t have to tell me anything I can see that on my own. I’m telling you I don’t have to agree with it or that it makes them right, so I will type my opinions where I see fit. What part of that don’t YOU understand?
That is your right as a Fan, Biggy..No argument from me,
But you guys keep living in the past and the continual
Coulda, woulda, shoulda crap is so deep that you distort reality
Of living In the here and now..
To each their own…
I thought this blog was about debating and talking about what moves the team makes, the endless debates about which players pan out and what players are bust? You aren’t apart of those debates? The woulda coulda debates on who should have been drafted? C’mon man that’s what this site is all about.
Not any longer Biggy…It’s Chips’-World & Team Now,
We just happen to be in it … Ha Ha
In Chip we trust. LOL
LOL. Almost the EXACT same thing I said to someone last night. I was basically like:
We played bottom of the league defenses and played a gimp, a turnover machine, and an injured (back) QB twice – as well as playing with No Rodgers and no Bush (in the snow) and got real lucky on a call in Arizona.
I’m not looking a gift horse in the mouth…but I’m not expecting that same horse to be so giving this year.
Excellent and well articulated points daggolden.. the glass is half empty in my view! Its important to contextualize what we are saying. Is Foles a lousy bum who cant play at all? Hell no…he is a good solid player. My question is he the guy who can lead this team WITHOUT a dominating defense to a SuperBowl…my answer to that is HELL NO. He is no Tom Brady, he does not throw pin-point accurate passes to partially covered receivers, he doesn’t handle pressure well, he doesn’t like to take chances.
He had great stats against the worst defenses in the NFL…
Well keep Bitching Songs all the way to Washington DC
The Eagle are not for the last time, signing big name, high $$$
free-Agents for that has not worked for them in recent Off-Seasons, so suck it up and get used to it and either Support your Team or go to
DC to fondle your RGIII & D-Jax..
You go and support RG3 and Djax..I’ll continue expose this shit organization until they get competent people in position to win it all.
and what happens afterwards when they Win it all Songs… What changes .. The Next Season will come and go, we all get to gloat for a couple of month’s.. It’s the chase that makes it’s interesting … expose the Eagles for what, competing year in and year out for most of Lurie’s Tenure..
Lot’s of things have to happen on they way to a Championship,
that’s why they Play the games… Enjoy it while it passes you buy..
This Super Bowl or Bust Attitude is childish & stupid and means nothing to real Eagle Fans which just proves what a Bandwagon Fan you really are deep down and a Disgrace as a Sports Fan..
Go get Innoculated or Vaccine Shots, Songs.. We are tired of you..
careful paul some will say you are a leming!
this is some of the most rational posts you’ve ever made…although in general you tend to float all over the place!
I am taking some new Medication HAC, don’t tell anyone ..
Paulman don’t waste your time with the Troll. We all know that he is a Redskins fan and closet homosexual. He will forget this site existed once the Birds start winning and the ‘skins return to their dysfunction form. FraudSongs is a loser, don’t even bother reading his posts.
Fools. Racists. Just wait for this season
Another idiot are you looking in the mirror Jake?
Sorry Big but Jakes right. Songs TS and the other Vick apologists were so happy with Chip Kelly when it looked like he was gonna keep Vick and draft a mobile QB. Now he doesn’t follow their play book the whole organization is incompetent. To watch the simpletons exchange notes back in forth on lucky the Eagles were last year makes me laugh. It’s retarded how songs and others can say with such hate how badly Foles will play this year. It’s hilarious how there are a million excuses why Foles was historically successful and a billion why Vick could never win from the same people. Reality is funnier than fiction. Quite frankly I wish this was all about football but it obviously isn’t. I only comment now because its impossible to not call people out.
Um…
What are you talking about?
I’ve CONSISTENTLY said they should win 9-10 games this year? That’s wishing for failure? Saying we’ll have a winning season and be division champs?
That’s new.
But you are right on one thing…any head coach who dismisses the best wideout for no sane reason – doesn’t make the moves to replace him, doesn’t do much to fix the shoddy defenses and presides over a questionable draft is going to get a strong side-eye from me.
Oh and not one comment did I mention Vick…the only one talking about him are the ones who claim to hate him so much.
But keep drinking that kool-aid.
So what youre saying is Huff Sproles Matthews are not moves to offset the loss of Djax and make the offense better.
Sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever.
what do you mean they didnt make moves to replace him… Our WR group in 2014 will be better than 2013, we are deeper and better at WR this year.
X, Jake is never right about anything and he should never ever call anyone out withe the crap he posted on this site.
If I had to guess what season two of the Chip Kelly era will be like……
1 – The offense will be very hard to stop… Foles & McCoy will be pro bowl caliber players. Maclin, Jordan Matthews and Zach Ertz will be big contributors. The offensive line will continue to be among the best in the league. The Eagles offense will be top 5 in the NFL.
2 – The Defense will be improved over last year, but will continue to be the teams weak spot. Look for Jaylen Watkins to be the surprise star of this draft class. I predict that Jaylen will have a better rookie season than his brother Sammy….. And he will do it at the safety position.
Prediction —– 11-5
Let’s wager.
I bet the Eagles don’t win 10 games.
You set the terms of the bet.
Who me?
You want to bet me?
Okay – I’ll bet $1.00 that the Eagles win 10 or more games. Give Paulman the dollar to hold….
A “Silver Dollar” has been whisked away in my “Study Room” and placed upon my “Book Shelf of Bets” with the label Irish vs Songs (2014 Season Eagles Victory Prediction)
Songs why even cheer for the Eagles seriously!!! Man you are never satisfied!!! Be the GM in Madden build a team and do it on Mars
Thanks
Eagles Nation
Its the same horseshit with some of you on here lol. The agenda is obvious and no matter the bitching will commence.
Even if they win it will be another bullshit excuse about why. Now they only won last year because the defenses sucked. Or this person or that person was out.
Same people in the middle of season I saw on here pissing and moaning when Vick got hurt. ITS OVER. McCoy will suck. Foles is trash. BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Then they start winning. ITS LUCK. Its this its that lol…stupidity at its finest.
One ass clown on here just said Foles doesn’t like to throw to receivers who arent wide open. LMAO THE KID THREW THE BALL UP FOR GRABS SO DJAX AND COOPER COULD MAKE PLAYS ALL SEASON LOL.
He doesnt have accuracy….70% completion rate to his no.1 receiver tops in the league.
LOL Stfu already with the nonsense. Season isnt here yet. None of us know jack shit on how this will play out.
If a guy goes back to back years with winning seasons there isnt shit much you can say. Especially when he is taking a team that was an utter clusterfck 3 years previous.
Racists with their hidden agenda aside…if you thought Vick was a viable QB that was going to win you something you know jack shit about football.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
IJ,
The funnest thing was last year in the GCobb fantasy league not one of these people who wanted Vick to be the Eagles starter choose him to start for their fantasy team….He was not picked until after the 100th pick…. What’s that tell you?
I know what it told me… they didn’t give a shit if the Eagles won, as long as Vick was the QB…. but they wanted their fantasy team to win
Ridiculous! Defending Nick Foles by way of Mike Vick wont work anymore. Vick is not on the team…he kicked Foles ass when they went head up for the job- when the pressure was on both of them to perform. Vick got hurt, tried to come back hurt and made his injury worst. Foles came in and played very well against some of the worst teams in the NFL. No one who supported Vick last year has argued that Vick should still be on the team, none of us argued that Kelly should have given Vick the job back after he had missed all of those games being hurt and Foles played well. And no one argued that Vick should be the QB of the team this year.
So why do Izzel, Irish Eagle, haveacigar and others keep dragging up Mike Vick while some of them cry ‘racism’…
Stop it…it wont work!
This is Foles team now and bashing Vick wont save Foles ass. He is due all of the same pressure that every other QB that has played for the Eagles. No breaks! True Eagle fans see his flaws just like we saw McNabb’s flaws. And McNabb won playoff games here.
The kid gloves are off, the training wheels are off…Foles has to get it done!
Foles piled up a bunch of stats against bad defenses. We should have beat the Saints but Foles had numerous plays where he missed DJax running wide open in the Saints secondary.
This year he will be going up against tougher defenses where the QB is going to have to make some plays for us to win. He is going to have to throw the ball into tighter windows instead of holding it all day long and taking sacks!
The Vick issue is over and done with.. We are now in the Foles era and he should be subjected to the same standard that every other QB in Eagles history is judged by…playoffs wins!
What are you talking about koolbreeze?
Foles doesn’t need defending.
In his first year as a starter he had the best TD-INT ratio in NFL history. He had the third best QB rating in NFL history. He won the Pro Bowl Offensive MVP award.
It takes a special kind of moron (like you) to consider what Foles did last year a fluke.. Never in the history of sports has a fluke hit such heights and lasted 3/4 of a season.
I wish I could hand out trophies for this post, good on ya Irish.
What I find funny is when people talk about Vick they continually talk about how bad of a QB he is and he can’t play but he’s still playing which means NFL coaches think he can but you guys know better, but when other people question the coaches decisions and such they’ll say I’ll take the coaches word over yours they know better. I don’t like Chip Kelly and he loves Vick but he don’t know anything right in Chip we trust. Fact of the matter is if Foles didn’t go off when Vick got hurt, Vick would probably still be here and the Eagles pick would probably have been Johnny Football. Funny how that works.
And IF the queen had balls she’ be king.
There a lot of terrible QBs kicking around, Vince young got another shot and I think Matt leinert is still I. The league… Vick kicking around on below average teams is not news
Ah but you didn’t address what I said the NFL is the NFL, so know you don’t matter if you don’t play for a winning team? Priceless response. As much as I hate our 2 back up stiffs guess what? They draw NFL paychecks period.
You are right I am wrong Vick is fantastic, top 10 qb in the league just a bit misunderstood.
You were touting. Ick because he is on an nfl roster… I was pointing out that there are many stiffs on nfl rosters… He’s just one of them
Let’s be real these guys are professional athletes so no the stiff label doesn’t apply especially when a guy plays over a decade, but I digress certain people claim coaches know better then fans but fail to acknowledge that when it comes to certain players and you know this. And by the way where did I say Vick was top 10?
Biglion its simple…these guys are assholes. Kelly saw Vick and Foles everyday during training camp last year…they went head up and competed for the job…Vick kicked Foles ass and Kelly gave him the job. The offense was new, the defense was new and we played 3 games in 12 days against playoff teams…Vick still played well but we all saw that the defense sucked.
Vick gets hurt…the teams we played against sucked…the defense gets better…Foles comes in and plays well against the worst teams in the league.
There is no more hiding and whining about Micheal Vick…he is no longer on the team…he will be starting for the Jets.
Nick Foles will be the starting QB on this team and I dont want to hear the apologist who are talking about this is a ‘rebuilding’ team…NO WAY.
The apologists for Eagles management says-;’losing Djax means nothing…we got Foles and some new rookie receivers that will take DJax place’
Ok..fine…there will be no room for excuses for Nick Foles-none at all!
Interesting version of recent history.
If Vick destroyed Foles so badly why didn’t Kelly resign Vick for this year?
I am sure you have some great conspiracy theory…can’t wait to see what excuses you have.
Big, Vick suck elephant dick, & is an overrated loser. He’s a figment, of ESPN’s imagination, & a character of the Madden games. Always has been, always will be. Get over it. Anybody that still supports, & makes excuses for the bum, needs to get their heads examined. F^#@ him, he’s gone, & we have a good young QB to support. Enough said. Other than the alter bowers, you are the only one who still supports him. SMH….
You are so on point…..I heard these same losers talking about Matt Ryan was better for Atlanta, yet he couldn’t take the team as far as Vick even though he have better talent on offense.
You’ll never hear people talking about Ryan’s bum ass.
Why?
I don’t want to hear a damn thing when Foles gets “jacked up” this season.
This is the “no excuse” year.
Vince Young got a tryout with the Browns. Just because a guy is playing doesn’t mean jack.
Matt Flynn played last year.
Jon Kitna was signed last year.
Vick sucks. His one redeeming quality was that despite all his troubles he handled himself like a professional on his second Chance. He handled his demotion like a boss.
Outside of that…. He sucked. He had 8 fools gold games that Andy Reid sold his should for because he was grasping to hold on to his job and win.
“Chip doesn’t care about this defense. 3/4 of all draft picks and free agents have been defense related.”
Stop the nonsense already.
This his prove it year is the dumbest line of thinking I’ve heard yet. Lol 2nd year. SuperBowl or bust.
Lmao
Filling your roster with 2nd tier defensive talent and trying to mold them into a top flight defense might or might not be fools gold and playing QB for over a decade and compiling a winning record as a starter is more then sucking. But hey to each his own, I’m quite sure the defensive coaches and players he played against will have a different opinion than yours.
Again longevity means nothing in a league that retreads Qbs over and over again.
Winning record as a starter? He’s 10 games above .500 as a starter. That’s slightly above average. Numbers don’t support your argument. He’s a 56% career completion percentage again doesn’t support the argument. And I’ve been around numerous former players all day the same thing best athlete to play QB. Force him to be a QB and he can’t hurt you.
Now its 2nd tier talent lol but hey to each his own.
Yep and I’ve been around numerous players who said he is a nightmare to play against. Longevity means nothing to you, but again he’ll be starter in NY until he’s injured in what is this year 13. And yes it’s 2nd tier talent the Benny Logans and Malcom Jenkins of the NFL. They upgraded the special teams I have given them credit for drafting 5 of 7 defensive players even though only one Jaylen Watkins is worth a damn.
***NFL News***
The Green Bay Packers Sign Undrafted Free-Agent TE Colt Lyerlie of Oregon
Today after an impressive workout & interviews with the Club
Lyerlie has a great chance to make the Packers who are very thin at the TE since J Finely’s injury a Season ago and reports are they are not close to
Signing him back with his neck injury and attitude problems
Lol… and we are back to the stupidity. Bash Vick… back foles
. Stupid stupid. Never fails.
Facts… Mike Vick was the best qb on the eagles at the start of last season
Nick Foles capitalized on a great opportunity and sealed the job. Best players play. Always.
Now… its 2014… move on… let go.
Vick is on the jets…. who cares about Mike Vick? Not I.
Fuck you Stevo, you douchebag.
What’s stupid is you and your schoolmarm dribble…. What’s next – you calling people simpleton’s?
But I notice you always say enough to declare your side in the debate….
If you don’t like what you are reading, don’t read…
Sounds good irish.
I just dont get the argument. Never did. Simpleton stuff. Guess what… both qb’s played last year and our D STILL came up small.
1 year later… qb issue is dead (except for songs) and we STILL have not a D to speak of.
in preseason and training camp when quarterbacks rarely see pressure or get hit, yes Mike Vick looked very good, Foles also looked very good. Thankfully, when they were both healthy later in the season, Chip knew what was up. Something about tea bags in hot water. Foles is just the better tea-bagger.
This O will be high flying again… this D will be trash again. I am praying i am wrong about the latter.
76ers get the 5th & 12 Picks after Lottery Tonight and Select
#5 – PF N Vonaleah (Indiana)
#12 – SF D McDermott (Creighton)
2nd Round they load up With Foreign Players to stash away
For a year or 2 and add a back-up PG
You go negative every single time bro… jeez.. that’s the worst possible outcome going 5th and 12th…
The Sixers will get the 1st overall pick, if not the 1st they’re getting the 2nd, if not 2nd they’re getting the 3rd..
So top 3 tops.. They will get the 1st..
I’ll take that. An athletic 4 with a jump shot and probably the best shooter in the draft.
These 2 Players would fit very well with MCW, Noels, Thadd Young & Wroten and what Hinkle is trying to build for the 76ers..
I am calling for these 2 Players to be selected by the 76ers
and If for some reason N Vonleah is gone, then substitute Aaron Gordon of Arizona in his place…
If McDermott is gone with their 2nd pick, then look at PF Dario Sarcic of Croatia or SG Gary Harris of Mich State in his Place..
I would rather they took Randle than Gordon and Stauskus than Harris. Both of those guys are better shooters.
Randle will struggle to get shots off at 6-8 Ft from the Basket as he did he College I think and like his upside as a NBA Player the least out if the Top 10
Prospects and would stay away, does not move very well without the ball, nor is he able to create much from handling the ball with that high bouncy bounces to himself.. I see him as a 2-3 Project Offensively, though he will crash the boards and play some Defense
Stauskus game I am not sure about at the NBA Level,
Had a great season last year just don’t believe he has the strength,
Defense or all-around game to be much more that a pure shooter off the bench which he will be good at.. But not worth a Top
10-12 Pick if the Draft to do.
I disagree completely about Randle. Gordon is your 2-3 year project. That guy has slim to no offensive game. He is uber athletic, but that is about it. He also can’t shoot a lick. Everyone wants to project Blake Griffin on this guy. Maybe, but I am not so sure.
And though you may be right about Stauskus, I don’t think that Harris is going to be a reliable enough shooter to play the 2 in the NBA. 43% from the field last year and 35% from distance.
Your right bugs on Gordon, and Harris……..Paul, is crazy about Gary Harris. He’s not an NBA Player……Gordon should have stayed in school, as well as Embiid…
everyone of them should have stayed in School.. It’s not how it works anymore and the Player, the Pro Teams that Draft them, the fans who follow them and the College Programs that lose them are lose out.. None of these Players is making an impact until Year 2-3 of their Careers..
I do like Gary Harris, I think he will blossom as a Pro NBA Player once getting out of that strict style of Coach Tom Izzo and is able to showcase his athletic ability, has size at 6-4 220lbs, and is physically strong and doesn’t mind mixing it up and playing Defense.. You watch, 2 Years from now, people will say, wow this Gary Harris is a Good Player, where did he come from…
I am tired of hearing about guy’s athleticism honestly. That is just a way to hype a guy who can’t shoot. I want a guy who can shoot and this guy wasn’t a great shooter in college, so why would he suddenly get better at shooting the basketball?
…in the NBA.
I do strongly disagree with your statement about no offensive game though. He might not be making a ton of shots besides interior shots (which he is good at), but he is a good, strong offensive rebounder, and can handle the ball well for a PF. Offensive game is not all shooting, and this kid has game.
Gordan actually has a very nice release, and in practice he was an 80% plus free throw shooter, his free throw shooting is all mental right now, but he’s also a kid. He has a great touch around the basket. He is such a great defender and rebounder (and offensive rebounds), makes some amazing passes, dribbles very well for a PF, and his shot will just improve with time. He might be 2-3 years away, but most of them in the draft are except maybe some older guys. Wiggins is 2-3 years away though also with very high potential.
I respect your opinion Anti, but we have seen a lot of players in Philly whose “shots will improve over time.” And Shaq used to make a ton of his FTs in practice too, but he was never good during the game. Probably Dwight Howard is the same way.
I wouldn’t be upset if they drafted Gordon. He seems like a good kid and he has a ton of potential, he is just really raw. Same thing with Wiggins. I just really want to get a lot of production out of the 4 and in my opinion you will get more from Randle and Vonleh than Gordon on the offensive side.
I would be happy with any of those 3 though.
This is how the NBA crapshoot works though. We see these kids for an instant and have to project NBA careers on them.
I do like Randle and Wiggins, and if we get a top two pick in the lottery (which we should) we need to take one of those guys… if we get a later pick than 2, though, i’d be thrilled with Gordon, him and Noel will make one of the better interior defenses in the league.
Gordon (and Wiggins, Randle and others) would have really benefited with another year at college, though I understand if you are a lottery pick you just have to declare these days.
sorry meant Parker and Wiggins. I like Gordans game more than Randle’s.
Vonleah & Gordon have the most upside as PF in this Draft in my opinion
and could end up as 10 Year Players with multiple All-Star Appearances if they can get on the right Teams with good Coaching
I stay away from Wiggins,Parker & Embid…
and Randle & Stauskus
paul you drunk?
cant trust a bad back with a huge guy… I agree about Embid… but I disagree with you on Wiggins and Parker in particular.
aaahahaha unreal.. paul youre getting worst man no offense..
do you not know the difference between worse and worst?
if we get the #1 or #2 and #10 i think the plan has to be to get wiggins or parker then move up a few slots from 10 to get gordon. having noel and gordon defend the paint with parker or wiggins, mcw and another shooter not yet on the roster to take the 5th starter job. with wroten as the 6th man, i think we would be a well rounded team for years to come and exciting starting this year.
Trade Thad and the #10 to move up??
unsure what it would take but if that got u gordon i would do it. i just dont think that would be enough. cant be trading future 1st rounders though
Already posted that guy hours ago…
Jon Hart
May 20, 2014 – 1:51 pm
The most realistic outcome is the Eagles drafting at 1 or 2 Wiggins or Exum then with the second 1st round pick and Thad, they move up to get PF Aaron Gordon…
Getting Wiggins or Exum then turning around and moving up to draft Gordon would be phenomenal..
because of gordons defensive prowess i think gordon could easily go #4 or #5 though, so this may be unrealistic
Don’t hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.