As the Eagles prepare for their third preseason game against the Pittsburg Steelers, there are certainly more questions and feelings of worry than confidence that the Eagles are “locks” to win the NFC East. Forget the 0-2 record; the focal point should be on an area that we dodged for the most part in 2013, “injuries” to key payers.
As Thursday night football approaches, the regular season starting wide receiver tandem of Maclin and Cooper finally appears ready to make its debut. At this point, it’s almost less about being excited to see their potential, but more about the “reality check” of how impactful their presence will be for the offense. Cautiously optimistic as we believe in the fact that coach Chip Kelly puts the onus on the execution of the system, and not the player.
The depth at the wide receiver, cornerback and linebacker position needs some answering; and it has to come on Thursday. Injuries have sabotaged our ability to see what Cooper & Maclin bring as starters. With Nolan Carroll sidelined for the Bears and Patriots game; Roc Carmichael and Curtis Marsh displayed the drop-off in talent once you tap into the depth after Williams, Fletcher and Boykin. Speaking of “thinning” depth at a position; if any of the starting linebackers were to miss significant time, we are in serious trouble. The backup linebackers I anticipate on making this roster are Smith, Graham, Goode, Braman and Matthews. I see a lot more special team contribution than reliable depth at the position.
Here is something that should not warrant our time and attention, but due to possible ignorance on Chip’s behalf, I need to see a field goal of 45+ yards made by our field goal kicker. I’m confident the Eagles can score touchdowns; I don’t share the same feelings about Alex Henery. After the draft, excitement built around the competition that Carey Spears aka “Murder Leg” would bring to training camp and in the preseason. The last sighting of Mr. Spears was when you watched the YouTube clips of him making tackles, the guy has been terrible during training camp, and is not making the roster.
Remember when the Eagles under Andy Reid went into the season without reliable roster positions? Greg Lewis returning kicks; Dan Klecko making the move to fullback? Veteran free agent Rob Bironas, call him, work him out; at the very least, demonstrate the urgency to upgrade a position of need even if there is no realistic plan of signing the guy.
Worried about left tackle for the first four games? You should be if the effort by Barbre the first two games is a sample of what he will provide during the absence of Lane Johnson. He will get tested against big, physical athletes with the Steelers defense, and he must play better.
Bennie Logan and Fletcher Cox are the starters, yet I’ve seen better overall play from Vinny Curry and Beau Allen. No coach on the Eagles is going to convince me with their reasons for why Curry sees limited snaps. When a player has proven every time he is on the field to get after the quarterback, you insert him into the line-up, a steady pass rush is critical for the success of the defense.
The Steelers present terrific challenges for Chip Kelly and the Eagles on the offensive, defensive and special team units. With a more difficult regular season schedule, I think it’s beneficial that the preseason game in which our starters will see the most playing time; it’s against a playoff caliber team like the Steelers.
For those fans that are on the “seesaw” with trying to project the Eagles this season; a lot should be made of how the Eagles play Thursday.
Home game, starters to play into the third quarter; this is a sampling of what we should expect come the regular season. It’s time to put it together; execute across the board and minimize the ridiculous penalties and turnovers.
It’s pretty simple,
Watch the man on man match-up along both
Line of scrimmages this week…
Can the Eagles win the majority of these 1 on 1 match-ups
Can the Receivers beat press coverage and get open
Can the Front 7 get of blocks, penetrate and make sound tackles
Is their a Pass-Rush from the 1st Unit..
Can the Secondary cover Antonio Brown & the Steelers well
Can the Safeties keep the Steelers TE’s at bay
Can Kicker Henerey get his Confidence back
Who steps up in the Return Game now that Huff is injured
And probably out for the Season..
Can Sanchez continue to move the 2nd Unit and look sharp.
Which 3rd RB steps up and remains Healthy
(Tucker, Josey or new Eagle Barner if he Plays)
since Polk is a ? to even make Opening Day Roster
And may be placed on Pup or IR list..
This is what I’ll be looking for…
Will the Refs continue to ruin the Spirt by calling every ticky/tacky penalty in the Passing game for both sides making Offensive Drives bogus
and undeserved..
Quality LB Depth should not be an issue
Look for Quality Back-ups to be cut from
The Panthers,Seahawks, Ravens, Browns & Steelers,Chargers
Lots of Teans in need of LB’s like the Cowboys, Falcons,Colts
So the Eagles better move fast to scoop up a Player or two as well
As CB
It will be more interesting because the starters play more, but to view this game as any litmus test, good or bad, is foolish, in fact we will not know what kind of eagles team we have this year until at least mid season, but I know many here will say this guy is trash, Maclin is soft, and no matter what songs will contribute with his weekly mantra that the quarterback is “ass”
Meanwhile, I’m going to enjoy this season and view the Eagles, under the direction of Chip Kelly, who I believe will prove to be a great innovator, as a team on the rise and building a championship team. This will be the greatest Era of Eagles football.
Paulman, why would the eagles draft Marcus Smith so high , when most pundits.feel he should not have been very high on the board.And not a lot of expierence.I think Kelly and Howie have very sharp minds So ,It is very confusing as to why this happened, Why do you think it was done? Thanks Paulman.
Hey Patrick
I believe the Eagles had a priority to Draft a OLB Prospect to replace the aging Trent Cole and the misplaced Brandon Graham and who is Athletic,Long and Can Drop in Pass Coverages but still be able to get after the QB and that would be good fit in Davis’s “3-4 Scheme”..
When looking at the OLB’s in this Draft that fit this criteria,
there wasn’t a whole lot of Depth after the highly Rated early Selections of Mack,Barr who went Top 10.
The Next Group or “2nd Tier” of OLB/DE’s that we left were the Following
#34 – DeMarcus Lawrence – (Cowboys – 6-2 250lbs – Very Athletic but not a lot of College Experience)
#40- Kyle VanNoy – (Lions – 6-3 – 245lbs – More of a Cover Player than a Pass-Rusher, strength at point of attack is an issue)
#47- Trent Murphy – (Redskins 6-5 250lbs- Strong but simply not Athletic enough to play standing up and out in space)
#50 – Jeremiah Attachou – (Chargers 6-3 255lbs – Well Rounded and a late bloomer and may end up as the best of the lot)
So I believe the Eagles felt that by Trading Back from #22 to #26 to obtain an additional 3rd Round Pick from the Browns and to still be able to get a promising and probably the best of the 2nd Tier OLB’s knowing that waiting until to their original 2nd Round Pick of #54 to address this position that the Top #5 OLB’s would all be gone.. When looking at the Depth of the Draft at WR & DB’s, the Eagles probably felt they could address these Positions with quality Prospects in the 2nd/3rd/4th/5th Rounds while they needed to get that OLB early would be my thinking..
P man Good deal , thanks for info
That new LB of theirs is the TRUTH. Foles can fuck around and throw some lame ducks if he wants too, it will be pick city with that kid on the hunt.
With that said the feared Steelers D is still too old and not the fearsome unit they have been years past. So we will see. Should be a good gage where the offense is and as far as the D…well…let’s just hope they aren’t embarrassing.
Yes he is TS but I’ve read on this site he’s too small. LOL
AND they use him as a safety. A SAFETY.
Sigh.
So TS… Since it was a good gage for where the offense is I assume you are now a believer? Otherwise I call bullshit.
And was the defense embarrassing?
And I guess that new LB told a bit of a fib…lol
@Bling
What’s your take on Bortles? You think they should start him over Henne?
I’m still not convinced (though he has looked decent-ish) but unlike Bridge and Manziel he hasn’t played with the ones at all and hasn’t been blitzed or tested much on defense (Bowles forget it was a pre-season game and brought the pain against Bridge in their last pre-season game and Skins brought the heat with Manziel as well.)
I have been really surprised how accurate he’s been, if he can get some reps with the ones I’d start him. Henne isn’t going anywhere. They just throw him into the deep end like they did with Gabbert. Gus Bradley is the truth teams are going to hate coming here to play because his defense is going to beat the hell out of people.
Bortles looks like he can be a good one. Most likely the best of the 2014 drafted QB’s. He just looks comfortable in the pocket and has good awareness. Gus may have made a good pick there at #3
Bridge is the best of the 2014 draft class. He was during the draft. He is now. He got screwed, but Minn will be laughing heartily for years to come.
Bortles looks good – but unlike Manziel and Bridge hasn’t been tested much in the pre-season, only been blitzed once and hasn’t played with the ones at all. So right now I’m giving him the “it’s pre-season” label.
If they give him time with the ones in this third game there will be a better sense of where he stands.
Sigh.
Look, no one knows who will be better…anyone who says so now is just basing that off pure hopeful speculation.
What I don’t get is why you feel you need to lie to promote your guy with the whole “hasn’t been tested” bs?
Week 1 TB entered in the first q, and borts mid way through e 2nd.
Week 2 Borts came in mid 2nd, while TB didn’t get on to the field till 5 mins to go n the 3rd q.
Both have seen a pretty equal amount of time vs #1, 2 and 3 Ds.
Borltes hasn’t played any with the ones. At all. In any game.
Noticed how I said Borltes is the only one who hasn’t.
Borltes has only seen completely Vanilla defense – no blitzes nada – both the other two have.
As I said – I don’t have much of an opinion on Borltes b/c of all the above, but he has looked good.
And no – I’m not basing anything off of pure hopeful speculation – though it is merely just a pure opinion at this point.
Bortles played in the first half the other day. Bridewater didn’t enter the game till 3/4 of the way through the 3rd. Whether it was 1s or not, he faced guys higher on the Chic depth chart than TB did.
Regardless, it doesn’t matter….its just you spinning hype for your guy.
Both TB and BB come into excellent situations for young QBs. BB has what looks like a solid and developing D, and TB has some nice weapons at RB, TE and now WR in Minny.
Both guys get to sit behind veteran QBs that have no expectations for success, so there will be no pressure on either young kid when they take over mid-season or next year. They won’t have to be great, they’ll just have to be….anything is better than Henne or Cassels as far as the majority of the fan base is concerned.
This is in contrast to Foles, who, because he replaced a guy who was a hero to a bunch of you, gets people saying, “if he does;t win a playoff game….and if he’s not great…..!” Soooo stupid.
Look at your expectations.
Bridgewater has a couple nice preseason drives and you are all “Bridge is the best in the class, Minny will be laughing for years to Come!”
Foles goes 8-2 and sets records doing so and you are all, “Look the problems with Foles are same problems he had last year. We know what his lows look like and we know what his highs look like (against questionable competition).”
Bridgewater is already a guy who is giddifingly exciting according to you, while Foles only has some highs against questionable competition.
Funny, when Foles tore the preseason apart 2 years ago, I wonder if you were as giddy as you are about Bridgewater. Doubtful.
“Bortles played in the first half the other day. Bridewater didn’t enter the game till 3/4 of the way through the 3rd. Whether it was 1s or not, he faced guys higher on the Chic depth chart than TB did.”
Yes in game 2 he came in earlier.
In game 1 he didn’t. Which is why I made the point of saying BOTH Bridge and Manziel has overall faced better comp than Bortles.
Borltes has yet to be blitzed or see anything more than the most vanilla of defenses – HENCE my caveat of he has looked good, but without seeing either with or playing against the ones I’ll chalk it up to “it’s pre-season.” for him and nothing else.
odd… all qb all the time still…. lol
I was at the Tampa game Bortles had no time with the ones Tampa was playing the 2’s and 3’s by the time he entered. He has worked a total of three days in practice with the first team.
Paulman,
In the past I have respected posts that you have placed concerning the draft, Eagles and your knowledge of football. But recently you have me wondering about some of your posts.
Recently you put out a post concerning Marcus Smith stating that you thought he played pretty well against New England and that anyone that made a judgment about him after the 2nd preseason game didn’t know very much about football. Then you put a post ranking the top 10 worst 2014 rookie draft picks and now you have a post predicting the Benjamin is going to have 69 catches and 12 touchdowns…………..Can you explain your thinking
Dtime, Paul takes both sides of every issue… It’s what he does he has predicted both Kinney and Barkley will make the roster… When one of then is cut he will crow about it
I am not very concerned about the 3rd QB Roster Spot for it’s a total crap shoot for a Player that most likely never sees the Field.
I thought Kinnie going into Camp would really stand out and move ahead of Barkley, but Barkley has outplayed him big-time and will be the 3rd String
I said all along that Sanchez would win the #2/Back-Up Position and have never stated that both Kinnie & Barkley would make the Roster for Eagles as no NFL Teams carry 4 QB’s.. Many Teams do not even carry 3 QBon their 53 Man Roster anymore either..
‘Mark it down, Linnie will beat out Barkley’
Marcus Smith played like 70 Snaps in which he has gassed the final 20-25 of them.. He played pretty well I though in the 1st Half with the 2nd Unit
by the 4th Quarter playing with a hodge-podge of players and being pooped out, he was laboring.. Most Rookies never Play 70 Snaps in any Game let alone the 2nd Pre-Season Game so all in all. I thought he played ok
My Top #10 list of 1st Round Picks that have Disappointed their Teams,Coach’s and Fans needed to have 10 Players on it and I went down the List and Selected 10 of the 32 Selections that have not gotten off to Strong Starts and we maybe struggling with adjustments, speed,Playbook, injuries or Maturity issues for Open Discussion.. It is by no means, any list that definite since there has only been 2 Pre-Season Games and 4 Weeks of Camp thus far… Some players progress quicker than others, some are asked to play and take on different responsibilities and assignments that what they did in College, Some Coach’s and Schemes just fit some players more naturally than others so a host of factors are all involved..
As in most Cases, the real results will be after this Season is over and we can all go back and see who contributed or not in their Rookie Season and whether their Draft Position was worthy by the Teams that Selected them..
For now, just a list for fun and discussion and besides, what else is there to talk about, but when I originally read posts about Smith being a bust,
I wanted to bring to everyone’s attention that there about many other Players that were selected in the 1st Round that haven’t set the world on fire yet either in the NFL…
Will Sammy Watkins or Khalil Mack make good NFL Players, yes they will, are they good right now and ready to make an immediate impact,
no they are not as 75% of all Draft Picks are not ready..
Khalil Mack looks just as overwhelmed so far….but no its Chip Kellys fault lol the stupidity behind some of these posts is laughable.
Rip them if Curry isnt seeing heavy playing time this year. Rip them if Boykin is limited on impact this year because of scheme and subsitituions.
Rip them if Curtis Marsh makes this team lol
But be realistic and stop the overeaching nonsense.
Ertz and Johnson have to make bigger impacts this year. Or Kelly deserves criticism.
Sproles needs to have an immediate impact. Or Kelly deserves criticism.
Marcus Smith just needs to contribute at some point this year. If the 26th pick in the draft had to be an impact immediate player….your team sucks.
The defense does suck, & has sucked for years now! Yes, your 1st round pick has to be an impact player. Wasting your 1st rounder on a reach, that shouldn’t have been drafted until the 2nd-3rd round, is a mistake, especially with better players still on board, at position needs at Safety, CB, & WR. That’s what winning teams, with real talent evaluators do. Pick players that help you immediately & contribute. Look at the Birds 1st rounders over the last 10-15 years, especially since the glorified accountant Weaselman took over. Don’t give me the BS that Reid was picking either! Weaselman has ran the last 4-5 drafts & was solely responsible for the “Dream team”. All reaches, projects, busts & stiffs. Mostly all of which, were mistakes at the time. Again showing your ignorance, lack of knowledge, & low IQ.
Teddy Bridgewater has struggled all preseason. The gap between him and Cassell is wide and he will be on the bench just like Manziel.
I could only imagine if Bridgewater was in Philly by these hypocritical post on rookie status he would already be considered a bust. Hes been an interception fest in practice in Minnesota.
Bortles looks shoulders above the Qbs drafted this year. This may turn out to be a dud year in Qbs like last year.
“Teddy Bridgewater has struggled all preseason.”
Really? ‘Cause that Minn/Arizona game suggests otherwise. Even the first game kid was the beneficiary of several dropped passes/penalties negating positive plays.
He will likely start on the bench, but not b/c Cassel is the better QB.
” Hes been an interception fest in practice in Minnesota. ”
Not during game time he hasn’t. Oh you’re talking about practice. O.K.
“Bortles looks shoulders above the Qbs drafted this year.”
Yeah. Bortles has yet to play with the ones and has only been blitzed once in his pre-season debut (though for the most part he looks to have good ball placement). Compare that to Manziel and Bridge and there’s no comparison.
Best Rookie QB of this Draft, that’s right Connor Shaw of the Redskins.. Ha
Bortles has had a nice Start I think, yes he hasn’t played with the #1’s yet but he looks pretty good in the pocket, game doesn’t look too fast or big for him and he does have a NFL Arm… They will bring him along slowly and he will get on the field around Week #10 for the Jaguars
Bridgewater has struggled. Its documented and written. He had a nice drive against 3/4s. So did Colt McCoy.
Rookies are supposed to struggle. He will be on the bench because right now he isn’t better than Cassel and doesn’t give the team a chance to win. No more no less.
Jacksonville has no talent. Why get Bortles killed when you suck. They can take their time with him.
“Bridgewater has struggled. Its documented and written. He had a nice drive against 3/4s. So did Colt McCoy.”
lol.
Bridgewater has sturggles in practice. Not game time. That’s documented and written too.
Bridgewater looked as terrible as Manziel has in Game 1.
Practice for a rookie is being vital. This isn’t the NBA. Especially a rookie QB where reps mean EVERYTHING.
No he didn’t.
Manziel’s game 1 was okay. As was Bridgewater’s.
Manziel’s game 2 wasn’t okay. Bridgewater’s was very good.
Bortles has had a couple of good ones.
Vikings are taking the same stance (though not as publicly) with Bridge as Jax is with Brotles – the vet is likely to start though I suspect that both QBS will replace the vets during the season.
“He had a nice drive against 3/4s. So did Colt McCoy.””
Oh I’m sorry…Bortles has been feasting on better talent?
No?
Okay.
To answer your question from earlier, Bridgewater is the class of this QB draft with Bortles being a close 2nd. ( Still want to see Derek Carr I think he can be a beast)
Manziel as I’ve been saying for a while is going to bust. This guy is a poor man’s Mike Vick, and lets remember, Vick is no Tom Brady or dare I say… Nick Foles 😉
“Still want to see Derek Carr I think he can be a beast”
I think he’ll end up with the starting job (at some point) in Oakland. He looks VERY promising and I think he’s better thatn Schaub and McGloin – or will be at least.
“This guy is a poor man’s Mike Vick, and lets remember, Vick is no Tom Brady or dare I say… Nick Foles”
Yeah baby, I’m not taking that bait. Nice try though. 🙂
Bridgewater and Manziel have looked average at best. Please stop. Add to that have both been underwhelming in practice protecting anything from either riiiiiiiiiiight now is a stretch. Is the Vikings are winning with Cassel Bridgewater won’t see the field barring injury or garbage time. The Vikings have Jennings and Patterson at Wr good TE play and we don’t even have to name the RB. If they are going with Cassel its because Bridgewater has not shown enough. Its Matt Friggin Cassel we are talking about.
“Bridgewater and Manziel have looked average at best.”
Says the man who say Bortles has looked great.
Okay.
Lmao see hypebeasts no one said Bottles looked great I said he looked head and shoulders above the rest and by the looks of this class that not saying much right now.
Typical hypebeast…or did you think I was Vinnie and got confused
Lmao gtfoh
You’re very Vinnie-esque.
So if I had made the mistake it would have been an honest one.
Think I will refer to you as Vinnie-light from here on hard.
You see to have as big a hard-on for me as he does.
Trick please lol no one has a hard on for you. You can’t handle being called on your shit and keeping shit on topic.
If you don’t want a response….DONT POST lol its football forum…not everybody agree with TSFlipFlop.
Or TsFinePrint ….. Because everything you say is always followed by a caveat or a backtrack.
You haven’t called me on anything.
All you’ve done is make yourself look like the total jackass you are – just like your buddy Vinnie.
Hypebeast settle down and keep quiet. All you do is throw a bunch of shit against a wall and when something finally sticks run your mouth.
Youve been backpedaling since last year TsFlipFlop. You talk hype no more no less.
I already pointed out all your dumb ass proclamations that you have been consistently wrong on.
However you hide behind the race card or point to arguments with other that have no relation to the topic at hand because ultimately you dont have shit to say.
Lol shouldnt you be researching mobile Qbs that make the offense better since you werent referencing Vick?
GTFOH LMAO
Wah Wah Wah Wah…
It’s like the teacher on Charlie Brown.
Until a QB gets a few starts in the regular season, you don’t know how good or bad he is going to be. At least that’s what I have seen over the years.
There’s a lot of guys like Brandon Weeden, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Tim Tebow, Josh Freeman… and the list goes on….
There’s not too many Russell Wilson’s….
Too often when people say a QB looks good or bad they talk about stat lines.
I’m not.
It’s like so many on here says how good Foles looked in the Patriots game…and all I could think was his stat line looked good – but he didn’t.
Bridge looked anything but average getting blitzed to death in the Cardinals game. Yes against 3s and 4s but he was throwing to and playing with 3s and 4s himself.
Bortles has looked as well BUT at this point both Manziel and Bridge have been tested more than he has. Most QBs can look good with very little pressure – though Bortles has had pretty good ball placement thus far and that’s a plus.
It’s why folk see Sanchez and say he looks good – things like decision making, ball placement, foot work, resonate whether you’re playing with ones or twos.
So no, some of those guys you mentioned, never looked good..they just had good stat lines. And there’s a big difference.
Y. Clearly you are one of the geniuses who can just ‘tell’ a guy has ‘it’
Well, over the past 3 years you’ve been up pumping Vick, Newton, and RGIII as guys who have it.
Yuck. Pretty dismal track record TS.
Now you’re all over Bridgewater. And….did I read that right? Sanchez?
Do You hate Foles soooo much because he replaced your hero, that you’re now excited about Sanchez?
Vikes will be laughing for years after TB has a couple good series.
Foles has limited upside, and that only because of inferior competition he faced
The TS way.
lol.
Notice my comment had nothing to do with Foles.
I’m not even an RG3 fan but your small mind can’t stomach anyone saying anything about a QB you don’t like.
I said Sanchez looked good in pre-season. I’m hardly the first to say that. I suppose you’re going to tell me I’m wrong there too.
You’re still bitching about that Kaep experiment. And telling us how running QBs don’t win championships. Gotcha.
Oh now I get it Foles 27/2 and 110 qb rating didn’t mean anything, he didn’t look fancy doing it? Interesting.
So no, some of those guys you mentioned, never looked good..they just had good stat lines. And there’s a big difference.
Well they must have looked good to those less knowledgeable than you… like the NFL GM’s that choose those QBs in the 1st round…
Someone with your talent could be a great addition to an NFL war room. Because a lot of 1st round picks get wasted on garbage like Vince Young, Brandon Weeden, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Tim Tebow, and JaMarcus Russell. You could view the college tapes and see right through the stat lines….
Some of you guys go after TS it seems to me just because she’s female I might be wrong but it’s a blog not a damn boys club. Go after some of these other idiotic ass posters like you go after her. Can’t respect none of you cats for this shit. Irish since when do you have to work for a team to express your opinion? Cigar how come established football people aren’t sold on Foles? Vinnie go watch some damn hockey.
She is welcome to have an opinion, and so am I….
All I know is that I said – “Until a QB gets a few starts in the regular season, you don’t know how good or bad he is going to be.”
And TS said – “So no, some of those guys you mentioned, never looked good..they just had good stat lines. And there’s a big difference.”
I just pointed out that some NFL GM must have thought they were good to pick them in the 1st round….. Am I wrong? Too bad the GMs are not as laser focused on talent as TS claims to be.
I know on thing, it’s a surprise to me when a guy like JaMarcus Russell fails and a guy like Tom Brady becomes a star. I’m not ashamed to admit that I can’t pick the next super star by watching them in college or in a couple pre-season games.
And I respect your opinions Irish, I just sense a lot of nonsense directed her way at times.
Biggy I get that same feeling reading some of the back and forth on here. No doubt that Sherel (sorry if I am spelling it wrong, I suck at spelling) had displayed her over the top adoration for MV, but she has also shown that she has a good knowledge of the game and the players. I think that way too often on here the responses are based more on the person who wrote it rather then on the actual comment. I know that I tend to do that with crazy Songs, rarely ever read the stupid sh*t he posts, just keep seeing him as a turncoat and troll…..so I am just a guilty as some of the others with TS.
I’m glad you pointed that out Greenfan, because I can be guilty as well when it comes to certain posters. Looking directly at Vinnie. LOL
If she didnt have a picture most people would rip her nonsense to shreds.
She is TSFinePrint because everything she says has a caveat proceeded by it. A but…A only because….
Shes been backtracking since she spelled the demise after the Vick injury and has looked like a dumbass since.
Not really Izell we had one idiot who basically cyberstalked her and put her info on this site. I’ll be nice and leave that idiot nameless.
Big I dont get caught up in the personal attacks and nonsense. I debate strictly on the team.
I seen fools talk about gun play etc on here…dumbest shit ever.
But I dont want to hear her cries about other fools on here then shes cosigning a flame war with SONGS….lmao gtfoh
Oh and if someone did do that to her post his name….we can find his IP and his information easily.
I see I’ma have stick you in the mhenski | Vinnie box.
Your vitriol towards me has no basis. You come at me for in convos that have nothing to do with you, to bitch about something I didn’t say in the convo that was going on.
As Big noted some of you fellas have a serious issue with a girl talking on a sports board – this wouldn’t be the first. It’s common across sports board and very common on this one.
“Shes been backtracking since she spelled the demise after the Vick injury and has looked like a dumbass since.”
The only one looking like a dumbass is you.
But hey you can join the club with your brethren.
If you think because I have a problem with you because youre a female youre clueless.
Anything I pointed out to you have been strictly about the team and your viewpoints. However you love running your mouth about what another nigga in the thread said to you that I could care less about.
I told you once I’m not Vinnie. I can agree to disagree…hell me and Big cant have more different viewpoints on the approach to the team.
However anytime you post and the convo turns on you, you lump everyone in with some race bait flame war I could care less about and never address the topic.
Wah Wah Wah Wah…
Maybe I should call you Charlie Brown…he couldn’t ever kick the football either.
Perhaps Lucy would be better though (you do bitch like a woman – no offense to my gender) though that’s insulting to Lucy who clearly has bigger balls than you…
I should probably go the Larry, Curly and Mo route (Dumb and Dumber would work as well) since you and your buddies are very much the 3 stooges of this blog.
Lol the biggest one bitching about personal attacks now is personal attacks
HAHAHAHA
Settle down hypebeast when you say dumb shit concerning the Birds your gonna get called out on it.
But mama Vinnie said…..
But mama Mhenski said….
But mama but mama
Dumb ass stay crying.
Wah Wah Wah Wah…
You’re just like them.
Wah Wah Wah
You claim to talk football – but you don’t.
Wah Wah Wah
The only one bitching is you.
Wah Wah Wah
I didn’t say anything to you and you come co-signing some shit Vinnie said. VINNE.
You claim I was co-signing Songz – I’m the one told him to let that shit go…but okay…you just like your buddies Mo and Curly.
You ain’t gone hard on a dude on this site yet. No one. And there are plenty who say real dumb shit on this site on a regular.
But Okay..Wah Wah Wah. You talkin’ football alright. Wah Wah Wah…
Lmao I guess you didnt see me going in on Cliff for copy and pasting articles and then editing them to be right.
See hypebeast….you just stay talking.
And as far as personal attacks…
You started with me. Not the other way around.
And while two wrongs don’t make a right, it damn sure makes it even.
See Sista Souljah I dont get involved in these race bait flame wars. I already called it out.
I’ll argue with you about DJaxs importance to the offense and why him getting cut wasnt a big deal…but too many of yalll wanna get in on the innuendo bait game and that aint my shit.
If I co sign anything someone says its a football point…not some other shit.
You take that as everybody is in the same boat etc…thats yo shit not mine.
Just like a few months ago when the topic of Michael Sam came up and fools posted some ignorant shit and I believe you posted something about having family members etc. and fools went in on you disrespectful, I went in on them and I respected your viewpoint because I had the same.
But nah you right…..everybody the same. Im just gunning for you…
lmao come on now.
The problem with you is this…I’m lumping you in the boat b/c you behaving like the fools in the boat.
You can’t even quote the stuff I allegedly said correctly…
DJax for example – I’ve said A GAZILLION times that the issue with DJax was HOW he was released and less that he was released.
To pretend like Djax wasn’t important to the offense is bullshit and to say that it is all doom and gloom now that he’s gone is also bullshit.
So no – you don’t want to debate me on anything I actually said. If it was just about football you would have kept it at that. But you didn’t and you did so on a convo that didn’t have a damn thing to do with you – and then started to go in on shit that didn’t have anything to do with the convo you intruded on.
You don’t want to be lumped in the boat than stop acting like the mutha fuckas in the boat.
Bet I can dig it.
If I go in on a viewpoint its simply that the viewpoint.
Like Bridgewater is the best QB in this draft…. GTFOH 🙂
Dude.
Bridgewater is the best QB in the draft.
I will be proven right on this. You will be proven wrong.
And then I will gloat.
🙂
This was a weak draft class for QBs. Bortles reminds me of Flacco.
“Bortles reminds me of Flacco”
Um…that’s not a ringing endorsement.
I’m a huge Flacco fan. Hes good QB. Maybe not superstar but he’s a winner day one and he has a canon on his arm. Baltimore had consistently neglected the offense for years and his weapons have been suspect. He’s already got one Superbowl and if Lee Evans wasnt a bum they would have two.
TS… Ray Lewis, Ed reed and the wife beater would disagree with your flaccid sssessment.
Because he has had 3/4 of a good season that’s why… There have been plenty of QBs that have showed flashes, won some games and turned out to terrible. Many get mentioned on this blog as guys that should be sought after backups.
Questioning whether or not he’s the real deal is fair… But ignoring the success he has had and belittling it by talking about competition or other phantom arguments.
Lion maybe you think I blindly support the coach, I don’t… I simply don’t spend enough time watching the Tampa bay v Jacksonville preseason game to truly make anything close to an informed comment. I figure these guys do it for 100 hours a week, with access to real information and not relying on media reports and are held accountable by their bosses.i guess I just like to watch my teams play.
I think Nick Foles will be a QB that can last, I find amusing that analysts act like 27/2 is done on a regular basis I will shout this out if you go 27/2 against division 3 competition that means something. He did it against NFL competition so where does the wait and see crap come from ? This ain’t Dom Brown. Last thing is this if he fails will it be his fault or teams catching up to Kelly’s system? If McCoy doesn’t rush for 1500 yards will it be his fault or because there is no deep threat?
Long as she keeps coming on here telling me how limited Foles upside is. How he looks like shit and only put up #s cause of the opposition.
As long as she keeps coming on here telling me how much better( insert QB de jour that TS proclaims is better than Foles, when in fact is either shit, or too early to tell) is than Foles….
Well.
I’m going to call her on it.
Sorry if that makes you so upset Biglion.
Fact is she hates the starting QB of the Eagles. I’m just pointing it out.
Ts Johnson and Jon hart are the biggest dumb shits on here. 1 has a dick and the other may or may not who knows. Either way they’re both idiots.
Everyone of tsjohnsons eagles predictions were wrong which makes me believe we won’t win the division this year. Some ts highlites ‘McCoy can’t run with foles at qb’. ‘Foles is a game manager ‘ ‘foles is an Alex smith clone’ ‘foles can’t throw a deep ball’ ‘Vick puts buts in seats’
Whatever dick I have is bigger than yours Mhenski.
Balls do. We’ve already established you have none.
Along with your brothers Vinnie | Izzel
Vinnie you haven’t called me on shit other than to cement your troll status.
I don’t even mention Foles or Vick or Djax and somehow your response to me has Foles or Vick or Djax in it.
Go watch Hockey like Big suggested.
I call you on all your shit.
Perhaps I wouldn’t if you stopped saying shit like this:
“I didn’t even mention Foles…..”
Right after you posted shit like this:
“Look the problems with Foles are same problems he had last year. ”
“We know what his lows look like and we know what his highs look like (against questionable competition).”
“Foles is an okay QB who can do well with a stacked team around him and a solid running game. And there’s nothing wrong with that.”
(but clearly nothing good either…)
“Foles can fuck around and throw some lame ducks if he wants to….”
But hey….stick with your “I don’t even mention Foles….” lies if you want…”just be prepared to be called son them.
You hate Foles….just admit it….just admit it …you’ll feel better about yourself.
And look. I don’t care that you hate him because he took your hero away…..but I will point out that you are wrong.
You were wrong about Vick.
You are wrong about RGIII
You are wrong about Newton.
You are wrong about Mesean.
You are wrong about Foles.
Don’t worry….one day you’ll be right about something.
Ditto Vinnie
*****Steelers News*****
Both RB’s Lavonte Bell and Lagarrett Blount were arrested today for
Possesion of Marijuana and Bell was also sighted for a DWI
Very unlikely that either Plays as Owner Rooney Jr, GM & HC Tomlin are livid,
Embarrassed and trying to figure out what to do..
Blount has has multiple issues while in College and down in Tampa Bay… They and is probably on a very short leash and will probably be released..
As the will be in the Market for a RB
Blount did Play for Coach Kelly at Oregon
A few years back…
No injuries tonight….rookie play.
As far as what to watch for in this game – the zebras. How are they throwing those flags. While some call it the LOB rule, it seems more like an Ealges rule with the way the Ealges were getting with those penalties last couple of games (also hands to the face and I beleive some oline holds as well) – it will be good to see if the Ealges have adjusted to the new emphasis or if the new emphasis is emphasized less.
Be nice to see the first unit put some drives together and the defense look like they have a clue. I want to see Marcus Smith let loose as a pass rusher and no injuries.
BigL Marcus Smith will be the center of attention tonight no doubt. Too much been said about him all week so it will be interested on how he responds.
As for the offense, outside of line play I really dont care. We are not seeing any semblance of the offense they will run week 1, and we have seen nothing of value with the use of Sproles etc.
Oh and Ahmad Carroll….Curtis Marsh and Roc Carmichael could not have highlight the problem this team will have if any of the top 3 CBs get hurt. Outside of Boykins both are C starters….I dont want to see one of those fools ever this season on the sidelines.
On a side note that has nothing to do with the Ealges:
I’m all for teammate bonding…however…
1. You couldn’t wait ’till you got home to smoke?
2. There are 3 of you in the car (2 of you play football) – why everyone had to take the blame for the weed? Couldn’t ya’ll decide on who would take the blame and then make sure that person gets bailed out and a good lawyer?
lol/smh
LOL you would think the Oregon Duck would’ve been the smart one.
Clearly he’s not a high character guy. So I guess not.
lol
5-6 Players to Watch on Offense
1) QB Nick Foles – I would like to see better footwork, quicker decisions,
and more decisive throws and clean exchanges with the RB’s.. Square the Shoulders & Hips up and use those Legs when Passing
2) RT Alan Barbee has his best week of Practice per OL Coach and OC Shurmur.. Let’s see how he does 1 on 1 versus an active 3-4 Scheme
3) WR Cooper & Maclin – See how they look in their First Action, which I expect them both to be a tad rusty, but are they getting open, running clean routes and not afraid of the “live Action” and Hits that will be coming their way
4) WR Jordan Mattews – Can he continue to build on a strong game last week and develop the consistency and nice runs after the catch…
5) RB Josey – Can he win a spot, be that 4th RB/Scat Back/maybe Returner and the eventual Replacement for Sproles in 1-2 Years time .. I think he can be.
5-6 Positions & Players to Watch on Defense
1) DT’s Logan and Allen — Can they get off blocks, Penetrate and make plays
2) DE’s – Who is going to supply a Pass Rush besides V Curry and Brandon Graham…
3) CB’s – Can the Eagles Top 3-4 CB’s cover without all the Penalties, then can they tackle, force turnovers and play Physical Football
4) OLB’s – Want to see more from Cole,Barwin,Smith, Long and Braman
5) Safeties – Who behind Allen & Jenkins is in the mix, Wolffe,Maragos or Reynolds..
Return Teams – Who will handle the Return Duties with Josh Huff probably out for the Season (I heard he will have Shoulder Surgery)
Kicking Duties – Who can kick the ball into the End-Zone Consistently
Hmmm…we actually may agree on something Paulman.
Miracles never cease.
Ha Ha.. Let see if you agree with my “Cheerleader Watch” down below..
Your Ok in my Book TS… I enjoy reading your Opinions on the Game and Teams.. Keep it up …
I want to see the kid Tobin at RT if Babre is still struggling. I thought we could get by with Babre but now I am second guessing that one.
Also want to check on the Cheerleaders ..
Is Sonja a worthy Cheerleader, He releasse, pom-pom waving is out od time, late and unenergetic..Is Justine’s Boobs real… and why does Natasha have a Mustache and Underarm Hair… I hope they clean some of these things up
lol.
Oh goodness.
Boys will boys I suppose.
Disagree.. They were on their way to a business appt., it doesn’t matter who was or who wasn’t smoking. These boys should be suspended for stupidity. This you take the blame because you aren’t a football player is I hope simply a joke on your part
Oh yes Haveacigar, because we know that weed is the most dangerous drug in the world. If you smoke weed and drive you are bound to kill someone. Its 100x worse than drinking and driving. Suspend these cats for the entire season!
Unreal I never said weed was bad … I think the nfl is over board on weed and under concerned with more dangerous things like wife beating. Point is these two idiots smoked weed which their employer frowns on…. Stupid fucks that think they are above if all
I just want to see the Eagles beat the Steelers for once in a blue moon. We always lose to this team. The first thing I thought after we lost the 2008 NFCC was “we weren’t going to beat the Steelers anyway so who cares.”
I also think if the Birds are going to move anyone this is going to be a showcase game. If you see a ton of Brandon Graham early with the first team defense then he is probably out of here. Same thing with Casey on offense.
Be honest all of you local guys…
Will you be watching the Birds or Tanney LL tonite?
I’ll be watching the Eagles, my boys will be watching Taney their cousin is Scott Bandura the catcher.
I don’t see anyone trading for Casey, especially for the 4mil per season on his contract. Why was he brought here in the first place?
My focus is on the defense as it always is. Will Davis send out a 4 man front more often on passing downs? Will the defense be able to get off the field on 3rd downs?
As far as Graham, I don’t see how you trade one of the players that gets consistent pressure on the QB, when given the opportunity, when pass rush is one of your biggest weaknesses.
Real Casey was bought in two be the 2nd TE and a weapon but on n round 2 Ertz was sitting there which they didn’t expect so they took best player available. I think Ertz is a star in the making.
Boykins not playing due to hamstring injury.This is the year of the hamstring. I can remember last year Dallas was hit with a plethora of hamstring injuries and the Eagles virtually had none. There was talk about the sports science being a factor I guess its just the luck of the draw.
I’m sure all you non Eagles fans and haters are loving this. 2nd time the Eagles have had the ball and haven’t scored 3x yet……FIRE CHIP KELLY and cut everyone!!!!
The defense is the worst in the league…they gave up a 1st down!!!
Lets hear it haters!!!
Ut oh, took way to long to score….the league has Chip figured out
Jason Kelce in space up the field is a fucking MONSTER.If you truly know football what he does down field blocking is an art
Celek makes big catches and holds on to the ball even after getting rocked BUT they must cut him bc his helmet keeps coming off!
Isn’t that right you whiny haters?
Two bad passes to start the game one good one to cooper missed maclin missed Mathews first down drop to cooper was high and away still should have been caught.
Nolan Carol sighting good D better throw by Big Ben, Jenkins big hit no wrap on Bell. Dumb penalty by Ryans aim lower. Finally off the field on 3rd down
Foles keeper up the middle?! nice reverse field by shady. Nice quick decision by Foles on 3rd and 5, nice seem pass to Celek off the fake Celek Helmet pops off as it always does lol, Barbe beat again smh, Sproles drop wouldn’t have been a first down anyway but the refs save the day, Foles stands and throws under pressure great job even tho it wasn’t caught, Foles Misses Celek wide open smh, great screen play design for shady double screen a chip Kelly score
Good blitz up the middle close to an INT, bullshit illegal contact I guess you can’t touch the wr at all ref have to use discretion, D making good initial contact we have to wrap up, Fletcher misses an INT chance on a bad throw by Ben, another 3rd down stop wow,
Good quick pass by Foles, no room for Sproles, Great pass by Foles to Cooper in tight coverage Cooper hard to reach around, few good runs by Matt Tucker, great 3rd and short conversion with the run good to see, good catch by celek but why does he always get crushed?, foles just missed Cooper but had Mathews break open bad PI call against Coop. Solid first quarter
Foles is ass! Lol
So funny….all the people that has been tearing the Eagles apart all week are pretty damn quiet! Guess their wives/husbands won’t let them on the computer now.
Initial impressions after 1st q in the only PS game that matters:
1 Foles is fine (TS upset)
2 Celek needs to find a hamlet that fits
3 Cooper with a bit of the dropsies, but not really concerned.
4 Henry with a kickoffs into the end zone?!?!?
5 oline loonikg good
Eagles will be fine.
No fuck that. Preseason means nothing this showing means nothing. You cant say when they are bad it means nothing and when they look good it means something. This means nothing
I have been (as always) very consistent.
PS is Mostly irrelevant, save the first half of game 3 which matters because it is the only semblance of a real game.
You stay hypebeasting
Some negatives….Foles not putting his mouth guard in….something I used to rip Vick for (because he always forgot).
Hopefully he’ll fix that next possession.
I think Celek has a concussion.
Read that McCoy got X-rays on his thumb.
Kendricks is everywhere.
What does Eagles will be fine…mean? Eagles make the playoffs? Eagles end with 8-8 record? Some fines want a little more than just “fine”…
But its great that you take that all from watching last nights game…because in your opinion “its the closest to a real game”….Pitt may have been the weakest competition we’ve played in the preseason thus far. I need to see what happens when defenses start cranking up the blitzes, game planning, and offenses really try to test the secondary. The fact that you are highlighting what Cooper did, is laughable…Cooper don’t matter..
But I will thank Dick Lebeau for not blitzing like he usually does so we can get in rhythm.
they blitzed plenty it was good pick ups foles recognized it and audibled out
Interpreted…. Files looks good with an asterisk… What transparent bias
he looks ok not bad not great but ok which is fine because the bigger point is receivers that he missed were actually open and he will hit more than he misses. Just glad receivers are getting open.
You can’t be serious with that bullshit.
Funny in Pitt, they were saying they used more blitz packages but still not getting to QB..oops, truth getting it he way of your agenda!
Maclin once again hurt smh lets hope its just a hyper extension wtf nobody touched him
One thing is for sure Nolan Carroll being inserted in the lineup has locked down his side of the field. Ben cant find no one his way. He definetly needs to start that’s why fletcer is getting a lot of work
Y Carroll has been a pleasant suprise. Kendrick’s is everywhere. They’re forcing BR to throw a little early.
Ok let me great this straight
1. Foles sucks bc Pitt isn’t blitzing every single play.
2. Th eagles defense sucks bc Pitt is playing their 1st team offense
3. Maclin is tissue paper bc he scared himself when his knee buckled BUT he came right back in so he must be fragile.
Hows that analysis haters?
27, some have a very transparent agenda when it comes to the qb position. Others are equally transparent when it comes to draft picks…
Oh I forgot….
4. Fletcher Cox is the worst DL ever!!!! Is only holding up blockers and making tackles.
Good pass to Ertz then Maclin twice, Foles getting a rhythm, good pass to Cooper dropped Illegal contact once again, good swing pass to Maclin score chip doesn’t challenge prob for reps great play considering pitt was way off sides, sproles score
Nice open field tackle by kendricks, tight window throw by Ben good D but make the tackle, illegal contact again smh, football being ruined, Nolan carol great hustle for the int on a bad pass,
good pass to Ertz, maclin goes down untouched, sproles trips on screen pressure on Foles throws a blind pass int bc Troy is a HOF not many make that play
Kendricks with another monster tackle, great plat by Malcolm Jenkins, its been quiet on the back end Jenkins playing well deep.
Maclin back out making a catch good to see he was just scarred for himself, throw away series matt Tucker couldn’t convert short yardage
Cox in the spotlight good run D, pitt trying ground and pound, Barwin doing what he does knock down passes
Mathews sighting screen pass trying to get him involved good gain, Sproles loose for a few great blocking, Maclin getting comfy, Cooper hard to tackle on short screen, Foles just missed the short Sproles, flat pass to Mathews for nothing, would like to see him catch something down field,
Graham can really pass rush a shame he can never get a feel lol
You forgot to add….
Foles threw an int and it had nothing to do with Sproles falling down….
And
Foles threw an incompletion and it had nothing to do with Cooper running the wrong route that the two of them joked about afterward.
Eagles looked solid this half. Sky isn’t falling, and that’s upsetting to a lot of people in here.
No the problem is with fans in here is when the Eagles play bad no one can criticize them like a few of you invented the rules. So if Foles sucks we will say he fucking sucked that game it doesn’t mean we hate him or any other player not playing well. When they play well I will say they played well. This idea that fans cant say anything negative aint happening. Saying all that the offense, defense and ST played well tonight and were impressive.
Its called having your own opinion and having a discussion. We all aren’t different. It doesn’t mean we don’t have the same common goal we just have different views.
You go out your way to pick at everything lmao hell the other day you said that it marked the day Chip turned on McCoy and wanted him it off town… Lmao because you read a twitter post about a sarcastic press conference quite. I mean come on criticism is warranted…. However you be on the some OTHER SHIT.
Actually living her and see a lot and hear a lot. Not just one source. So when I come to the table its coming from many sources from people actually around the team, beat writers, etc.So like I said we all have our opinions. Its not like Im in the locker room or around team its what others report so I will keep listening to them until you get a press pass then I will listen to you.
You read and see hear everything everybody else hears…lol I get every beat writers twitter post etc etc etc lol But Dag you be getting hyped up to go at some of the dudes that go after you then you go off the deep end.
Im still tripping on Kelly getting rid of McCoy though….they got you on that one lol
Now that is true lol
My opinion… Foles is ass!
Hmmm..where have I heard that before? Funny he is conspicuously quiet when Foles performs well…or he will chalk it up to a poor defense.
Criticism is not the issue. Legitimate criticism is.
No one here is going to bat an eyelash if you bring up the kicker, 3rd down d, pass rush, Smith, the back end, the RT replacement etc.
But……
Start telling me (us) about how much better the Redskins QB is? How terrible Foles is? That’s going to produce some negative responses…
Who determines what legitimate criticism is? You? Iggles? Yeah ok we will ask your permission what you deem is legitimate and what isn’t. LMAO
Yes, me.
I have been right on just about everything Eagles, so I am a good barometer.
It’s so true.
I am literally sitting here laughing my ass off, play by play cats are coming on here crowing about a good play or a bad play, it’s like third grade in here, wait Marcus Smith made a play he’s going to be great oh no Jaylen Watkins just got beat he sucks. SMDH.
90 just made two nice plays.. Dunno
Chris Polk is in trouble. Tucker may have sealed his fate
Very surprised the steelers still rolling with BR……mid way thru 3rd….wow.
Tomlin wants the Steeler first team offense to put a positive scoring drive together.
Positive news. Sanchez playing vs Steelers 1st team defense to. So I guess we cant say he played vs backups. He looks good. I guess the he is playing backups argument aint working this week. lol. Good QB situation. Is it wrong to praise Sanchez(another Eagles player) or is that tabu?
I have a Chris Polk Jersey for sale….1 dollar.
You may have to pay someone a $1 to take it IJ..
Is it just me, or do the Steelers suck? Our 2nd team offense moved the ball with ease against their #1’s.
Good 3rd game for the Birds. Many positives to build on. A couple tough decisions for the coaching staff. Tucker looked good, Travis Long too. I thought Smith II played better.
No Greenfan your not seeing things that defense is horrible.