Basketball hasn’t been kind to Philadelphia for some time now.
As someone who genuinely loves the sport and the 76er franchise, believe me when I say I understand that what this franchise has gone through and continues to go through is not an easy thing for fans to endure and sit through.
Just sit down and think for a second about all of the rotten, disappointing names and moments that the Sixers have gone through ever since their run to the finals about 15 years ago.
We’ve gone through Larry Brown, Randy Ayers, Chris Ford, Jim O’Brien, Maurice Cheeks, Tony Di’Leo, Eddie Jordan, Doug Collins, and now Brett Brown as our head coaches. We’ve watched guys like Chris Webber, Glen Robinson, and Andrew Bynum come to town and steal money. We’ve been letdown by other high-priced free agents like Elton Brand, or high draft picks like Evan Turner. We’ve watched a delusional organization spend more than half a decade trying to sell to us that Andre Iguodala was a superstar that you could build around in this league.
And after going through a 19-63 season that was dedicated to losing in the name of the future, the NBA Draft came and went with the Sixers missing out on the top two prospects and had to settle for an injured big man in Joel Embiid. Not only that, but the Sixers’ other top 10 selection, Dario Saric, won’t even make an appearance in Philadelphia this year after signing on to play in Turkey. This organization had two top 10 picks in what was considered to be a deep draft, and when the season tips off this week, they will have nothing to show for it on the court.
Oh, and reigning rookie of the year Michael Carter-Williams has been battling a shoulder injury and won’t be ready to go to start the season.
To say that its been rough being a Sixers fan is quite the understatement.
We’re looking at another season in the tank, possibly with even fewer victories than what we had a year ago.
However, as difficult as this is to go through, I still fully support what Sam Hinkie and the franchise are doing. I understand the roster that they have right now is mostly garbage, but and certainly a terrible product to watch…but so what? The Sixers have tried to get better “the right way” for a decade and a half, and it just doesn’t work in this league. To those opposed to the current strategy, what would your plan have been for this off-season? Would you have gone out and given Lance Stephenson a max-deal along with a couple of other B-level stars so that this team could win between 38-40 games, sneak in to the playoffs as an eighth seed and then get to play four extra, humiliating games against a top seed?
We’ve read that book plenty of times, and we know very well how it ends. Tanking may not be fun to watch, but we need to be patient and give this strategy a chance to play itself out. While we wait for Embiid to get healthy, and Saric to arrive from Turkey, Brett Brown will do what he can with what he’s given, and try to unearth a couple of gems from the league’s scrapheap.
There’s actually a couple of guys on the roster that I’m a little interested in watching this year.
Obviously, the tandem of the last year’s top picks MCW and Nerlens Noel is something to keep an eye on. I don’t know that Noel can be a star in this league, but the potential is there. He needs to get himself a little bigger to sustain the pounding he’ll take over the course of a season. Second-round pick K.J. McDaniels has been a shot-blocking machine in the preseason, and I’ll be curious to see if that can translate to the regular season. Center Henry Sims played hard once he was acquired in a trade with Cleveland last year, and I want to see what he can do in a full year with Brett Brown.
I have the Sixers down for 14 wins this year.
I’m sorry Denny this argument is a cop out, fact is you and I and anyone is posts here doesn’t get paid to think up a strategy better then this current nonsense and the man who does is in my opinion a certified con artist. Think about this, they are 23 million under the minimum salary floor which means if 150 people show up a night to watch this crap they still make money. A complete and total farce. Trading guys for 2019 2nd round picks this strategy makes no sense whatsoever. No guarantee Saric comes over no guarantee Embiid or Noel can be difference makers but hey two things we know for sure is this train wreck will be historically bad and they will still make money.
I’m still waiting for a strategy Big.I’m still waiting for you to identify a couple free agents and who you would draft at 3.
Still waiting…..
And if they only won 30 with slightly better players you wouldnt watch them either lol don’t be a hypocrite.
23 million below the salary cap minimum, 10 of the 15 guys on the roster who shouldn’t be in the NBA, historically bad and still have people cosigning on what’s going on. the only strategy going on here is how to lose games and still make money.
Im still waiting for the strategy.
Bigs I love you like a brother but IJ is correct in regards to the route Hinke and Co. are taking. By no stretch was I ever a fan of tanking in the TRADITIONAL sense. But seeing as the league, the media, and far too many delusional fans turned a blind eye to the phantom injuries and DNPs by teams with legit rosters for years, I’m all in with Hinke and crew shitting on the league now. at least with the Sixers you’re seeing them actually be upfront with there intent. no stashing stars on bogus IR and extending the minutes of bench warmers trying to win the race out of the last seed into the lottery. I got real tired of that nonsense while everyone pretended not to notice. The Sixers simply played the league by gutting their roster of players that clearly could not help them win, along with bad contracts to boot. They refuse to overpay for players that ARE NOT WORTH IT and are now in the drivers seat with a ton of cap and lottery picks to seal the deal. If we are going into season 3 without a meaningful thrust to mesh what we’ve currently put together, then I’ll worry. But season 2 into this strategy deserves the same consideration we’ve given the prior 15 before Hinke’s arrival.
Great article Denny. You get exactly what is going on and understand what had to be done with the rules the NBA had in play. I love people talk about the strategy then your ask them what you would have done this off-season they have no answer because they don’t watch the MBA enough to closely identify talent our future free agents etc.
There was absolutely nothing on the free agent market that made sense to then outside of over paying Lance Stephensen. Ahh if the young free agents wetter restricted and were not going to be pried away. The ended up with the ROY last year and the rights to the best player on last year’s draft. Cleared horrible contract in Bynum and walked away from mediocre players in Young Hawes Turner. This team had no real talent either than Turner. That damn simple.
What is going on here is the systemic breakdown of the NBA– the only way to MAYBE and notice the MAYBE IS IN CAPS is to be historically bad and then HOPE that the 19 year olds you draft are superstars. In the meantime you tank and put out a putrid product, still charge NBA prices and make people over pay for parking, beer and hot dogs. You send a ‘chance to dance on the floor at halftime’ promotion out to every youth cheerleading, dance group in the area so you can sell 50-100 tickets to friends and family who want to see their daughter in the bright lights.
The NBA needs to eliminate some teams to tighten up the talent base.
The Sixers were the first team with the balls to actually TANK legitimately. The old way was 10x worst. But apparently the league and media talking heads were fine with this as long as certain legacy teams or annoited markets somehow benefited. So I’ll let others pretend it’s dumb luck that the Spurs couldn’t beat the Little Sisters of the Poor when Robinson went down; or the Celtics just being in the right place at the right time along with unworldly personnel moves (yeah ok); or the Lakers and…..f-it the list is too long.
IJ i don’t need to speak for big but in fairness he would probably suggest drafting players that can actually play to improve your team. Spend on some mid level FA and try to get in the playoffs. The goal is to try to win.
That said I understand what they are doing and why they are doing it but it leaves a real bad taste in the mouth for sure!
You are correct cigar, this is a total embarrasment on every level, one thing nobody anybody can defend is 23 million under the salary cap floor and 10 of 15 guys who have no business on a NBA roster there is no defending that. And I’m being kind by saying 10 of 15.
I’m still waiting for you to identify the strategy. Your 23 million talking point is clueless and shows you don’t understand the CBA.
No maybe you don’t understand the CBA, bottom line is this who gives a shit what my strategy would be? But we all know what Hinkie’s strategy is and if you want to be a blind sheep that’s your right as it is mine to detest it and criticize it. See I can sit here and say your equally clueless if you think you know how this turns out.
Again like I figured just talking to talk.
Identify them then. I’m all for it.
Seems to me last year’s draft they had the best rookie and drafted the best talent. This years draft the drafted the best talent fixed a terrible trade in Bynum recouping draft picks and have the best international prospect as well.
In a two year span this team went from having a franchise killer in Bynum, a bust letdown in Turner, limited cap space and future picks traded and flat out terrible. To having young Tashkent cap space and draft picks and being terrible.
Sorry but you can keep the mediocrity.
And Spencer Hawes sitting 3ptrs….NONSENSE.
It’s excellent strategy for the current CBA.
Fans complaining are short sighted and don’t understand the big picture.
Just like they would bitch and moan if they were close to the cap and won only 35 games.
If you enjoy mediocrity you’re a clueless fan.
Yea because the big picture is stealing money being inferior in the hopes of hitting the lottery. But your calling others clueless. Hey whatever floats your boat.
Shut up with the strealing money. Clueless statement.
STEALING MONEY, how many dollars you shelling out for this sham Izell? Now if your not supporting this sham by buying tickets I think you need to shut up and rethink that clueless tag.
I already invited GMCliff to come to a game. I’ve been going every year for over 20 years. So again CLUELESS.
Then good for you Izell because your supporting this train wreck. But clueless is spending money on a product aimed at taking your money and not giving you a competive product and really not caring if you show up or not. Because of the low payroll and TV deals they don’t care if people show up or not but again what do I know I’m clueless right? SMDH
What I thought…no plan…don’t understand the CBA…Have no clue about cap strategy that all the teams with a plan are implementing til 2017.
biggie we were terrible at 40 wins we are terrible with 14 wins but at least we know why they doing it u gotta think longrun otherwise wgat u want is medocrity not me i want championships abd u gotta have superstars for that not iggy and injured centers they triex the FA it didnt work
Z, there is no plan. Point blank period how to suck while making money and hope they hit the franchise player jackpot. Great plan.
well then the current CBA agreement and league are a mockery of professional sports.
As I said I know what they are trying to accomplish and why they are doing it.
Maybe they should come clean and say… ‘because of the current CBA and the way the league is structured the only way to eventually MAYBE be good is to tank for 3-5 years and HOPE that the 19 year olds we draft are Kevin Durant. Until then we will charge minor league prices, minor league parking rates. Kids under 12 get an upper deck ticket free when accompanied by an adult who pays $8 for a ticket! “
Short sighted lane brain thinking is how we traded a top prospect sitting right on our bench and ended up having to blow the entire Franchise up and start over.
Vucevic…15pts 23rebs opening night…most peopke talking about the Sixers didn’t even know he was ours or even worse who he is.
That was on Doug Collins for not putting the kid on the floor, what are you talking about?
Oh……So that was a previous regime?
I mean Hinkie has been here 1 year but all there terrible manager that led up to this is his fault right? Lmao….like I said just talking to talk.
And still waiting for a plan.
Ill lay it out.
Only player you have is Jrue Holiday and the 10th pick last year’s draft what do you do that makes this better?
And in 1 year what has Hinkie shown you? What kid of product is he putting on the floor? What in his prior experience leads you to believe this will work?
Lol did Hinkie just come out of thin air? Come on now. Stop taking the easy talking point.
So the Rockets are his blueprint? Come on man stop it.
Lmao how did Morey and the Rockets get James Harden?
Hahaha man you definitely don’t watch basketball
How did Presti and the Thunder get Ibaka Westbrook(Who people ripped when picked) and some guy named Kevin Durant?
How did the Pelicans get Anthony Davis Ryan Andersen Tyreke Evans etc?
Here ill give you a clue…
Rhymes with….
“Staph cricks and Mast Trace”…..
I’m going to ask you again because I know the answer, did Hinkie pull these deals off and was the Rockets being constructed his blueprint. If you say yes we have nothing further to even discuss about basketball. But you know basketball.
Big do your homework and stop sound clueless you are better than that. This is getting sad.
Sam Hinkie and Daryl Morey only wrote articles together identifying their analytics approach and how in tandem they worked together to get it done.
Unbelievable that would even fall out of your mouth. Clueless.
Really, Daryl Morey put that together and again what has Hinkie done? You’re sounding either really stupid or naive. Look at the Belicheck tree how did those guys work out? Yea different sports but being in the same front office as Morey don’t mean shit and by the way what has the Rockets won?
Dwight Howard free agent, James Harden trade, yes a great blueprint.
lower level sixers tix go for upwards of $160 with a $20 ticket charge added to it. The Delaware 87ers the minor league team lower tix 8-18 dollars plus a $5 food voucher! LOL– 180 bucks to go see this team hilarious! just hilarious!
I went to a ton of games last two years and I didn’t even pay half that for lower level. Hell and thats with my son and nephew.
someone paid that and because the product was so terrible and they wanted to dump the tix you could buy them cheap as a resale….
I would skip the NBA, the Product is just not worth the Costs..
I rather go to College Games and even some of the Smaller Schools are fun to watch for about $10 A game.. I go see 4-5 Games a Year with the local Schools here in Western NC like Davidson,Wake Forest,App State, UNC-Asheville and Western Carolina, UNC-Charlotte, Winthrop, ETSU
since they are all within an 2 Hour Drive
No one cares we aren’t talking about that.
Sixers have a two pronged attack to getting better. Tank and the draft for a 3 year window and free up cap space for free agents or trade possibilities. You don’t sirens that 23 million on anything but one year rentals if that, and you keep that space until end of 2016 where the free agent class will be full and the estimate cap will jump to 80 million. Of course there are intangibles and he’ll luck that had to go into it but with the state the franchise was in last 5 years before last year it’s the only chance you can take. Unless youre L.A. or New York best route is through the draft.
All you have to do is watch Anthony Davis last night. Your not getting better as a franchise wallowing between 30_40 wins this isn’t the NFL. The NBA is a 1 player turnaround league. Jesus….HINKIE CAME FROM HOUSTON!!!!!
76ers will not be relevant anytime soon, meaning the next 3-4-5 Years..
Professional Basketball is Dead in the City of Brotherly Love
Go Follow the Philadelphia Union and the Sport of Soccer
paul if Embid, Noel and Saric can’t play its longer than that…..
I vote for contrition and the sixers disappear!
Most fans are saying the same thing about the Phillies. Including the clueless attention whore you’re responding to. It ain’t just Fraudman and Dcar that have been complaining about the lack of vision or plan from that org. But you defend Rube and brass to the death (I’ve actually agreed with some of your counterpoints). But somehow the Sixers are the poster-org for all that’s wrong with the NBA?
Cold brew I guess you are drinking IPA 90 tonight… I’m for the tank… It just points to the bigger problem hat the nba has…
Funny this plan the sixers have is the ultimate in having a vision ..it may not work out but it certainly is visionary..
The salary cap floor is 56 million the Sixers right now are 23 million dollars under the cap FLOOR not the cap. Totally ridiculous and unacceptable, they will make stupid trades during the course of the year and take on salary because the money has to be distributed before the end of the season.
So Oklahoma City is the blueprint or Houston that’s the only examples of how to get a winning franchise? How about Portland’s approach of identifying and drafting real good basketball players and putting a team together, how many seasons did they tank to assemble that roster? How about using some of that advanced statistics background and putting something watchable on the floor.
Jesus Christ do your homework or just stop talking about basketball.
Lets talk about the Portland Trailblazers.
Three best players
1. Damon Lillard
2. LaMarcus Aldridge
3. Nicolas Batum
The have drafted in the top 10 since 05….a ten 10 year window just about…5 TIMES….with two additional top 12 picks.
Two best players were drafted 2nd and 6th respectively.
When the only one 21 games….I REPEAT 21 GAMES….the next year they were able to fleece the Bulls to trade Tyrus Thomas for Lamarcus Aldridge.
When they only one 28 games…they were able to draft Damian Lillard.
Thats not mentioning having the no.1 overall pick….and drafting in that ten year window with first round picks
1. Nolan Smith
2.Martell Webster
3. Victor Claver
So you were saying about the draft etc. ?
Dont talk to me about basketball unless we are going to talk real basketball and not hype.
Again how many seasons did Portland tank to get that roster? You really don’t know basketball like you think you do, but like I said there is no excuse for this roster. None you talking about kids like Towns so what are the chances he pans out in the NBA and winds up here? What the chances Saric turns out to be a player in the NBA? It’s all speculative just lie this dumb ass tanking.
Dude biggie there is nothin left to try u have to know this organization has tried everything else tank for hopeful superstars is all we have left cime in man y dont u understand
Z you draft well develop guys and compete and hope you can entice a free agent or 2, there will be at least 25 dudes wearing Sixers uni’s this year how is that developing talent?
again biggy we gottA be bad to get the best talent cuz the top 5 is the best for a reason i dont want any more role players i want superstars
Please dont even come to the table about basketball Big. Hell I gave you your own facts. Shut up already.
You just throw out talking points with no substance. Let me hear you talk about money and culture and jack shit about players talent etc.
Then when its pointed out to you that every team that has a superstar pretty much had a 2-3 year of tanking before they got that superstar you talk about something else.
Do your homework and be quiet.
God the sixers starting 5 tomorrow is the most embarrassing roster in philly sports history. Pg Wroten sg Hollis Thompson sf kj mcdaniels of nerlins Noel center Henry Simms DISGUSTING
No way in hell that lineup could beat Kentucky. Shit Villanova might give that doo soo a run
SIXERS MISSION THIS YEAR HAS TO BE TO FIND A WAY TO GET KLAY THOMPSON
Klay Thompson definitely has a chance to be available
KT won’t come to Philly..
He’s looking for brighter lights and will likely end up in NY/LA
Fraudman you really think NBA draft picks have a say? This isnt the MLB. In a slotted draft and with the restricted free agency process no top player is giving up the money by sitting out a year etc.
HOUSTON ROCKETS FUCKIN STINK
WHO ARE WE TANKING FOR???
MUDIAY?
OKAFOR?
TOWNS?
OUBRE?
LEVERT?
ALEXANDER?
OTHER?
MYSELF I WANT TOWNS, PAIR HIM WITH EMBIID AND TRADE NOEL OR MAKE HIM A BENCH PLAYER
OR
TRADE OUR PICK UNPROTECTED AND NOEL FOR KLAY
My Gut has the 76ers targeting the Following Players
1) Kristaps Porzingis – PF (Latvia 6-11 220lbs)
2) Mario Hezonja – SF/SG (Croatia 6-7 200lbs)
3) Justice Winslow – SF/SG (Duke 6-6 225lbs)
4) Bobby Portis – PF (Arkansas 6-11 235lbs)
The targets are High school all American College Freshman – all those guys you mentioned are top 30 players that will be drafted later with the exception of Hezonia ..maybe
I never said these Players going to be early 1st Round Prospects..
WInslow/Portis are late 1st Round/Early 2nd Round Prospects..
Remember the 76ers will have Multiple Picks
I’m not mocking you Paul, just responding buddy…I agree with you on that point.
Towns looked like an absolute monster the other night. That top 3 for Thompson straight up I would do in a heartbeat.
Portland won 21 and 28 games while fielding legitimate NBA players and competing traded for assets and drafted well. Now what do we have here MCW who’s injured and won’t be here long term. Noel who might be defensive player of the year material. Embiid who might turn out to be a franchise player and Saric who might play here in a couple of years. And KJ another defensive player of the year possibility. Bright time ahead indeed.
and trust me big when the time is right we will make a play for key free agents as our team evolves but u gotta give it time u hate it before it really starts
Portland won 48 games in two years before they could get their hands on the no.4 pick in the draft to trade for LaMarcus Aldridge at no.2.
They were terrible.
Now I know you dont follow basketball at all.
Dude what are you talking about they developed the roster while competing they didn’t tank they made a couple of really good trades and drafted well. They didn’t field a roster full of NBDL rejects.
during the summer league Nerlans Noel was attacking refs about his defensive fouls and lack of calls committed against him on the offensive end. It was Evan Turner-esque. He didn’t seem to do it in the preseason though which is good. I hate that petulant child whining. That was one thing I admired about Thad Young, he never complained about calls.
Joel Embiid wanted to go to the Lakers, his agent wanted him to go the Lakers. Will the Sixers be able to keep these draft picks? These players see Philly’s arena seats empty then go on the road and see SA, LA, OKC, Chicago packed with active supporting fans.
Yep
We have no choice but to pay for the Sixers. Comcast forces me to pay for CSNPHILLY, Espn, TNT, TBS. It isn’t like I have a, a la carte viewing option available to boycott their product. Josh Harris gets his TV cash whether people view his team or not.
How about letting fans come watch this garbage, on the premise of a rebuild, like the sixers did in the early 70s, you get in to watch with a snickers bar wrapper
other than that it’s pure thievery
during the draft when the sixers drafted Saric, Jalen Rose and Bill Simmons started laughing at the Sixers — Simmons said the Sixers are going to be in the lottery again next season and Jalen said you can buy an entire row of tickets for $15.00 on stub hub.
noel looking good he got 3 blocks already he will have a double double tonite
Noel certainly looks good for his first game at half time defensively and on the boards. If he could hit free throws he would average a double double but his outside shot is so bad they play off him negating his speed on the dribble. If he can develop a 12 footer he would average 18 pts.( without it he is only a 9 point a game guy)
Man if we could make free throws we would be up by ten at least
man i luv t wrot just a stat machine
good finish at the half wroten and these no name guys carrying the offense while noel abd kj playing great dfence
Z – did you see that weak flagrant foul on the sixers — David West will get kicked out of the league if that is a flagrant when he gets healthy-
hell yea weak ass call
I dont care what people say nerlean is fun as shit to watch when he gets his offense together he will be At least a 16 12 guy with 3 blocks a game easily
Embiid will steal most of the boards from Noel so I’m not sure about 12 a game when the twin towers gets going but his points will go up once MCW, Embiid, Saric and soon to named top 5 pick in 2015 comes.
probally right i see him at least getting near dion jordan numbers
They battled all game. Made young mistakes but effort was there. Need to run more. Shved could be a nice gunner off the bench.
They are much more aggressive defensively when Noel is roaming off ball. Played within himself liked what I saw outside of the FT.
they definely battled but 13 miss free throws and a lot of missed layups willwill kill u but their young and this shved guy is like a jr smith type cocked and ready to fire and dam pacers had a block party
the sixers have one legit NBA big man on the team. Nerlans Noel — the rest of the players are sub par & really bad ( Davies, Thomas, Sampson) Sims is border line NBA but the other 3 don’t belong in the NBA
Not a coincidence the Went on a run in the third when he went to the bench. I like the Davies kid a little. That three he took though on an airball pissed me off though lol
a sleeper team that could make a surprise playoff push is boston thwy got a lot of scores and rondo looks like the old rondo dishing the ball everywhere
dudes like sullinger and olynyck who the sixers should’ve targeted
Rondo healthy they have a chance Rondo not healthy no one can create shots on that team until we are more from Smart.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Absolute rubbish! I wouldn’t contribute a penny, to watch this fraudulant slop, put together by the snake oil saleman, & the conmen ownership! I hope they expunge the team, or move it! I bought season tickets for 16 years, & they won’t get a penny from me again!
what? this is your plan being implemented. The only player left is Jason Richardson who they can’t unload on anyone because of medical issues. This is rock bottom, this is the starting point. This is what you called for; the complete dismantling of the 2012 Philadelphia Sixers and the termination of the entire Front office and scouting departments. ( Thorn, Dileo, Collins, Snyder all gone) You called for Turner, Hawes, Young, Brand, Iggy, & Lou Williams to be removed and to start from scratch. You are like the Home Alone character Macaulay Culkin who wishes his family would disappear and when his wish is granted you change your mind. You wanted this!!!!!!!!!
oops! LOL
Stop EOS youre making sense. You understand basketball in the millennium.
the faux logo Denny put up as the season outlook picture is hilarious
Do you really need to be a genius to tank a basketball season? What is genius is Hinkie has convinced fans that they should be pay good money to watch them do it.
Thank you dtime, for trying to lead the blind sheep to safety. LOL
no free agent wants to play here and its been like that for a while now so guess what we have to tank to get top 3 talent then once our talent grows then we we get key free agents why the hell yawl dont understand baffles me its how the nba is just give it time ill take 3 to 4 years of terrible to be great for ten
fuck the money its about seeing the future everyone who watches and goes to the sixers games understands the plan
That’s exactly what Hinkie is banking on Z, doesn’t matter who goes to the games they are going to make money on this disgrace of a team. Do you honestly think this would be the PLAN if they were losing money? Seriously think about that for just a minute.
And that exactly why all these you don’t understand basketball posts are to steal a word. Clueless but hey what do I know, it takes a Stanford grad to come up with this current plan. LOL
I dont know if they would make money and i dont care i just understand why they doing it it and after watching sixers for the past 20 years all we ever had was ivwrson and if we can get 3 quality stars in 5 years thats something we have never had and that is definely worth it
big the previous regime plan was terrible This is the rebuild we should have had after iggy was not a superstar we were hoping for
Z, I can’t waste anymore time on this. It is what it is. There are no guarantees that any of this crap will work. Not one time has tanking at this level worked. I’m just at a loss of words how anyone thinks it’s okay to build a culture of success by purposely sabotaging your roster to lose games in order to get better, and I might add by taking money from customers and profiting at the same time. That is the genuis of Sam Hinkie.
Dont waste time, you sound ridiculous. If there was a guarantee everyone would do it. You just want to hear yourself speak on this. Teams have been tanking for decades. Only difference the Sixers are going to the extreme and being obvious about it.
Culture of success…lmao shut up already.
I give up on u big u worried about fucking money We have tried everythibg else big this tankibg is all we have left and u havent said one thing but develop talent and thats dumb cuz u wabt to win 30 to 40 games for what 15 to 20 talent we need top 3 talent to develop. i want durants not iggy
You dont understand basketball. The only thing that comes out of your mouth is money like your Robin Hood. Shut up already about it. You look even dumber when up the road in NY there is an even bigger debacle that charges the fans twice as much as the Sixers are over the cap and are just as bad.
CLUELESS.
Are you serious? Who gives a shit about what they do in New York, oh you want me to shut up because your one of the clueless who spend money on this disgrace of a franchise? So let me give you a better spelling for clueless, it’s IZELL. One question what actual strategy is being displayed here? Oh yea lets keep losing and we’ll eventually get the franchise guy and if not well lets keep losing until we do because dudes like Izell will keep spending money.
Negro please. Again show me a strategy. Talk basketball. You talk nonsense. No strategy? In two years we went from nothing to 4 picks in the top 10.
Guess who did that as well.
Oklahoma City.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
I will keep spending money. I have it. Lmao only small pocket fools complain about someone elses money.
I don’t know basketball huh? So that’s your answer dude I’ll x and o you to death on basketball so please stop acting like your the only person on this board who knows anything. You want to talk basketball we can talk basketball but the shit that’s going on here isn’t basketball.
This fool brought up Portland…then when proven wrong looked stupid…went back to arguing about money.
Then he brought up OKC…then when proven wrong looked stupid…went back to arguing about money.
Then like AN IDIOT…..referred to Hinkie as a guy who came out of nowhere had no part in Houston rebuild….then when proven wrong…went back to arguing about money and fan.
LMAO….STOP TALKING.
Yea so I guess the next Westbrook and Durrant is ours. Is that how it works?
Please an x and o hasnt fallen out of your mouth yet about basketball.
However if you really want to talk it I will be in Orlando and Miami for a couple of AAU tournaments….let me know lmao.
It’s about having the opportunity to have a chance at those players. Anyone with any knowledge and follows the NBA knows that. The NBA is a one player Franchise changing league. Basketball in general is one player team changing game. Ive talked to you more than once and I know your primary background is football. You are approaching everything they are doing like they are building a football team etc. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
Miami tanked for almost 3 years just to have the chance at Lebron. Could only do so because they already had a top 5 drafted superstar on their team. Out West Spurs arent the Spurs without the ping pong ball falling in their favor and getting Tim Duncan. Top 5 teams in the West….all have a franchise player drafted high in the NBA draft.
You think Lebron is going back to Cleveland if they dont have Kyrie Irving and multiple no.1s to trade?
And like I mentioned already….theirs a team right up the road…that shows you spending money without the draft DOES NOT WORK.
Maybe you can stop over in Jacksonville during one of my practices and run one of the for me, we don’t usually allow AAU coaches around our kids for you I’ll make an exception.
Lol this isnt football. AAU is High School basketball. Jacksonville Nets would be the only reason to look at basketball in the Ville area.
Bruh…..quit while youre ahead. LMAO
Dude you are ridiculous, like I said we don’t deal with AAU coaches in both programs I’m involved in. My Church houses a prep program for kids in between high school and college that helps try to secure JC programs and I coach in a association for kids who because of grades or whatever don’t play high school ball ages 15-16 but yeah you know everything. Ridiculous
If you stop thinking you know it all, you might be okay. Like I said the invite is open let me know I’ll send you my contact info.
Quit while your ahead bruh. No one needs your justification for a house league in Jacksonville…lmao
I dont know church leagues lol that I will say hahahaha
And the last comments are jokes….you may be clueless about the Sixers….but commend the work even if I dont know you.
Hmmm trouble comprehending who said anything about a Church league? It’s all good continue to waste your time and spend your money on the Sixers like I said give me a holler when you come through.
Only how you will over find me in Jacksonville is if I’m on the run from the Feds. Nothing in Florida past Orlando with seeing lol
You can’t go to a Sixers game, nowhere to hide with only about a hundred people in the stands unless you dress up as a empty seat.
I think the Sixers strategy is going as planned so far.
It will take some time and luck to see if fully realized. As any plan, there is a risk that plan may not turn out in the Sixers’ favor. Injuries and players not developing are the two biggest concerns. However, if these players do turn into what we hope they will the Sixers will be in great shape.
The Sixers need a scoring wing. I hope the Sixers get Mario Hezonja out of Croatia. I think he and Dario would be great together on this team.
As with any long-term plan, it will take time to develop.
Tua you are correct. Sixers had absolutely no assets outside of Jrue Holiday before last year like EOS stated above.
Keep hearing this nonsense of “you have to draft well and develop guys” that BigL and other dolts like to spout on here….yet it is exactly what he is doing. He flipped our lone asset in Holiday into a top 5 talent in the draft and at 10 drafted another asset in MCW. This year due to circumstance he got his hands on the best talent in the draft again. Of course its a crap shoot…Greg Oden went no.1 over Durant.
There was nothing being developed before this new regime took over but in one year the clueless fools on here expect a roster full of assets and young guys like there isnt any other teams in the NBA doing the same thing.
Or better yet…the Robin Hoods…shouting “They are stealing from the fans!!!” Lol when anyone who knows anything knows the Sixers make their money off the Comcast deal, they can survive an empty arena….they wont survive going into the next deal with a bad team. They are trying to put a real winner on the floor. Literally starting over from scratch…but after 1 year fools want to say it doesnt work. SMH
I think there was a stipulation in the sale to Josh Harris by Comcast that the Sixers have to play in the Comcast owned arena (the wachovia center) and be televised on comcast for 25 years.
Izell you know everything to know about the art of tanking and rebuilding rosters so continue on buddy the Sixers and Sam Hinkie love you.
More than anything I know what mediocrity does to a franchise and I watched for the entire post Iverson era and your misguided fustration I had when we foolishly destroyed this team with deals to Iggy and Brand and throwing away players for Bynum like Vucevic. Or with the 2nd pick in the draft taking Evan Turner when the best player was DeMarcus Cousins.
Unlike you and many on here I still follow this team religously. The Birds are my squad and rep Philly but I grew up with Barkley posters. I learned how to shoot foul shouts at Sixers camps at the Spectrum with Ron Andersen. I had a Shawn Bradley jersey. I know bad. I know Sixers bad. The team may be bad but the direction and play is not. Especially not in todays NBA. Look at the talent that is set to be in Free Agency within the next two years…there is opportunity there. We finally have a chance to be involved in that opportunity. As a real fan thats all you want.
Or you can trade for Jason Richardson who sits at the end of the bench collecting checks and never playing. He should be the sole reminder of what mediocrity and piss poor planning can do to a franchise.
So after all that your going to hitch your hopes and dreams on Sam Hinkie’s master plan. I hope for your sake it pans out, just don’t hold your breath. Let me ask you a question. You don’t think Lebron goes back to Cleveland even though he’s the drawing card and guys will line up and play with him?
let me ask u a question big do u like any coach or gm the sixers or eaglez have u seem to discredit or disagree whatever they do
I like Brett Brown, and I’m an Andy Reid guy I don’t like Chip Kelly. Other then that I really don’t know why your asking me that question Z. I criticize where I see fit and I give credit where I see fit. So Z like I said I don’t understand the question.
LeBron left for that exact reason. Wade and Bosh both told him they wouldn’t go to Cleveland. They had to trade for Kevin Love. He’s not going to Cleveland with no hope winning a title.if they don’t get the first pick in the draft 3 out of 5 years they have nothing to lure him back.
He’s the biggest legacy freak in the game. Hes not going back to be a 6th seed or hoping guys come.
Even funnier…..lead page of ESPN.
“LAKERS SHOULD TANK AND TRADE KOBE”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Kobe was right. They are idiots.
No one will take on his salary.
Take the Points and New Orleans Saints tonight in a Thursday Night Blowout.
this time it will be the Road Team with the big win..
Whoever wins versus the Saints/Panthers goes to win the Division,
the Loser misses the Playoffs and finishes below 8-8 for the Season..
last season Green Bay made the playoffs at 8-7-1 — this year Carolina might make the playoffs at 7-8-1.
Panthers can’t Run the Ball, are not getting Sacks or Creating Turnovers on D like they did last Season.. They have no real deep, big-play threat for fastg or east Scores like last year with Steve SMith and Ted Ginn
They have to grind out 10-12 Play Drives with smart,effiicent execution led by QB Cam Newton and a spotty OL and WR Corp (Outside of Benjamin/TE Olsen) but no one to stretch the field or no RB who can break a long one.. They will struggle to so 14-17 Pts a Game
I think the Saints roll them over tonight (38-13) and get on a Winning Streak and take the weak NFC South at 10-6 while the Panthers Finish 6-9-1
Kenneth Faried had 22 points and 17 rebounds equaling the insane great accomplishment of Nic Vucevic 15 points and 23 rebounds in this insane great first game who is better dual ( wow both players look great !!! )
Yes both off to great Starts,
Vuc Is a very good “Big Guy” who if he stays healthy, will be a consistent Double-double for the next 10 Years in the NBA..
I just give the edge to Faried who has more energy, athleticism and plays overall better Defense
Imagine if 76ers Kept Vuc and then use some of the Top Draft Picks on
PF/SF instead of Noels/Embiid the last Drafts.. Coulda,Woulda, Shoulda…
Vuc is the better player. Once they figure out the PG situation in Orlando he will be even better
And I like Faried. You can find high energy like him though. He’s a transition monster and great running. Vuc is a player you can build an offense around.
The strategy is simple. Get high draft picks. Get young stars. Then be able to attract high level free agents. Its what happened with OKC and Clippers. The Thunder got Ibaka, Westbrook, Durant, and Harding through the draft because they were bad for years as the Sonics. The Clippers got players like DeAndre Jordan and Blake Giffith through the draft which then made the organization attractive for players like Chris Paul to come over by trade.
The Sixers are using this model but doing it in an excellerated manner. I say kudos to them. MCW, Noels, Embid would never of touched the Sixers in years past. I say get another lottery pick, have enough cap space to give out max contracts to high level free agents and then do some real damage.
Milwaukee vs Philly tonight —
looking at the buck roster their guards are bad ( Knight, Marshall, Mayo) it looks like they have two young inexperienced small forwards in Parker and Antetokounmpo. Sixers should look to pluck one of them off the buck roster in the future since both won’t resign in Milwaukee because the other will be the starter much like Iggy and Turner couldn’t co-exist on the floor together and Stackhouse and Iverson couldn’t play together either as both were shooting guards.
You’re overlooking Kris Middleton. He starts at the 4. He’s actually good. Kidd started Giannis at the two the other night to bring OJ Mayo off the bench for sorting on Monday. His squad down the stretch vs Bobcats was knight mayo Middleton parker and the kid Larry.
J.Kidd actually did a pretty fan hours coaching job.They could score but couldn’t play defense and let Bobcats back after they were down big.
Interested in seeing Noel vs Middleton who’s athletic and will make him work. Parker could show out.He struggled a bit with speed at the 3 and couldn’t play 4 because he would get abused by Al Jeffersen.
Our 3 spots is terrible. Davies will get physical with him. Wroten well struggle mightily today IMO.
I got news for you…OUR 4, AND 5 STINKS TOO….
Awww are you upset because every time you talk basketball you look stupid?
Giannis looked awesome passing the forward spot the other night….oh wait he didn’t…
Showing you just throw out obscure names etc so you can sound like you know something hahaha shutup already
Yada yada yada,……Noel still stinks
Like you’re fake basketball knowledge lmao looking dumber and dumber by the game.
How’s that starter Giannis….oh wait….
Jared Dudley started over him….
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
CLUELESS
u judt want him to stink becuz u want to be right he is looking ok so far for a rookie give him a chance
Cliff was wrong on Noel as soon as he played his summer league game.
He knows nothing about basketball. He doesn’t even know the positions the guys he throws out there.
The last time I proved him wrong he got do mad he copy and pasted an article then added words to it to be right.
Hahahaha….
Best rookie on the floor last night was Noel…
And it pains me to say this as a Duke fan….Parker is Evan Turnerish….skilled but athletically not on the same level and without a true position.
Ok Izzell and Cliff, enough with the back and forth. Save that for Dcar, Fraudman, MHitler and myself ha ha ha
I digress, Klay Thomson may be available this offseason, Kawhi Leonard too. I actually like both of their games. Both are good all around players and haven’t even scratched the surface potential wise
If Klay and Kawhi don’t resign (which is a strong possibility at this point), the Sixers could offer each a max deal and have $25m to spare.
Starters:
MCW,Klay,Kawhi,Noel,Joel. I’d love that..
I can dream too haha
JH that lineup would be awesome get a good backups from free agency and high draft pick next year shit thats a great team depth and young
Lol I would overpay for Klau Thompson I think he’s a better version of Joe Johnson, I want nothing to do with Kawhi Leonard. I like his game but he’s Iggy with a better 3pt shot and if I’m spending bag I want a go to shower. Plus Klay is a true floor spacer. If GSW struggled etc Klay will be on the move and GSW is making you take back Bogut or Lees contract but it’s worth it.
I spoke too freakin soon guys, we just got F’d
Thompson and the Warriors just struck a 4yr max deal 70mil
He’s worth it. They would be fools to let him go.
Yes hes a very good young talent
ld still take a shot at Kawhi Leonard if he becomes available
Leornard’s not going anywhere
Both Parker & Ginobli are at the end of their
Careers, Spurs lock up Leonard, no doubt..
Paul I’m not saying they wont because they should. What I’m saying is dont dismiss the idea of him possibly joining the Sixers
Remember who helped develop Kawhi Leonards game? Coach Brett Brown. He’s was on the Spurs coaching staff for many years. There is a familiarity there, a comfort level there between the two, and the Sixers run the same exact system as the Spurs
So if there was anywhere Leonard would go besides back to the Spurs, I think it would be to the Sixers
If he doesn’t sign back with the Spurs, I think the Sixers will make a run at him and will offer him a max deal..
Spurs are smart and there’s a reason they supported againstlottery reform and the draft. If they don’t think he’s a true sparse they aren’t resigning him. At best to me he’s a Pippen clone…However if they don’t have Jordan on the team why sink 70 mil with him. They have their eyes set on a Duncan replacement….I think that’s why they are hedging on Leonard.
another player i really like is jimmy butler from da bulls notsure max offer
Butler is a nice player but he’s basically Iman Shumpert, who if the Knicks fall apart and they want to get rid of Amares contract Sixers better get along with him
Nic Vucevic 23pts 12 Rebs last night. He’s going to haunt me all season.
Nerlans Noel is an NBA player — after 2 games you can see the talent, no doubt. He is making a ton of mistakes but that is expected learning the NBA game. Averaging 10 points, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks while playing 35 minutes a game. The sixers nailed the selection especially considering the inferior talent drafted before him. ( Otto Porter, Alex Len, Anthony Bennett, Cody Zeller ) Brett Brown says he will start to limit his minutes from the 35 he is playing now to 24-28 minutes a game. After seeing the talent in Carter Williams and Nerlans Noel compared to their draft class peers I feel good and believe in Sam Hinkie ability when projecting Joel Embiid and Dario Saric especially after watching MCW and Noel out perform their draft class.
When MCW comes back he will blossom even more. Written is a turnover shoot first player. I like him off the bench add a spark plug. However he doesn’t get ready baskets for his big men and is not a good decision maker in transition. In transition is where MCW will make Noel shine.
**Sixers News**
According to a source, D-League reigning Rookie of the year Robert Covington will be signing a long term contract with the Philadelphia 76ers
Covington is 6’9 215 with alot of talent, hes only 23 years old with a high ceiling
Can score in a number of ways, can shoot the mid range and 3, post up, drive etc
We’re starting to see this team really take shape. Now MCW will be returning tomorrow night playing along side NN, we’ll get a chance to see how they gel, and lets get Covington out there too
This is going to be a long, lanky, athletic, smart team. I love it
TogetherWeBuild, ShowYaLuv Philly!!!
“D League rookie of the year”– Thats like being the prom queen at a mens prison!
hahahaha….team shaping up with Dleaguers, injured players and guys no one has ever heard of. You actually have to buy a program every time you go to the game to know who is playing.
I heard GM Hinkle reached out to DCAR and told him that when he loses 30lbs to give him a Call for a Workout.
don’t do that, Sunday in Toronto the Sixers were down to 2 big men total at tip off ( Henry Sims and Brandon Davis) Load DCar up with a couple chilli dogs, a donut, a beer and some Halloween candy to throw some weight around for a 10 minutes a few rebounds.
Dallas up by 57…. I said fifty fucking 7… Bull fucking shit!
Hope everybody’s happy
the nba is a complete f.ing joke…no ifs ands or buts– a JOKE! and for those that are referring to this tank 2.0 it is really 3.0– three years of the ‘coveted high lottery picks’– a freaking travesty- anyone who pays 1 penny to see this is foolish!
Izell don’t kill me but it doesn’t matter if anyone pays a penny because of the low ball salaries they’ll still make money. Show your luv 0-82. We ain’t tankin we stankin.
haha… i looked at the schedule and tried to find a win there. Didn’t have any luck.
Lol, that was bad. If you’re Anti Tanki lol that pissed you off.
I was more pissed at the lineup changes. They still were gonna lose but I think Brett Brown got a little to damn cute with the small ball early.
Lol see what happens tonight
Izell I know the guys are trying their best but this is bad, I was afraid of losses like this because that was beyond embarrassing, there is nothing gained by putting a product like this on the floor. Do you think Brett Brown survives this year?
Oh definitely. Dude Brett Brown is the guard whisperer. What he’s done with Tony Wroten is amazing. He’s not my type of player but Brown is refining him.
Brown isn’t gone until the first crop of real free agent signings start with this team. That’s probably 2 years away. Although I think they are players this summer.
Brett brown I believe is considered the long term coach… I think they brought him in here with full knowledge of this three year tank. He will not get fired for losin big lion… He is suppossed to leave. I bet he gets an extension… Which he deserves frankly!
lineup changes didn’t make any sense. KJ McDaniels is awful against smaller players and Brett Brown had him guarding Monte Ellis instead of Chandler Parson. Then he started a 6’9” Henry Simms and 6’8” Mbah a Moute against the Dallas’ twin 7 footers.
Embarrassing. No other word to explain it.
Inauspicious beginning to the MCW/Noel show.