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LeSean McCoy: “I thought it was like a panic move”

DeMarcoMurray&RyanMatthewsLeSean McCoy says the Eagles decision to sign DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews was a “panic move”.

I agree with McCoy that Frank Gore’s decision not to sign with the Eagles caught the Birds front office off balance.  After all they had come to an agreement with Gore and his representative, so they had taken it for granted that he would be on the team.

Once they found out Gore was reconsidering his decision, the Birds started looking for what other running backs were still on the market.  Doing this wasn’t a panic move, it’s just part of doing business in the NFL.

“I saw that they originally were trying to get Frank Gore, and he backed out,” McCoy said on the Rich Eisen Show.  “So then when they got DeMarco and they got Ryan Mathews, I thought it was like a panic move.”

Getting them was a wise decision.  You trade away an outstanding running back, it makes sense to acquire another one or two.

“I thought about that a little bit,” McCoy said. “I didn’t understand it. Chip is a really good coach. I think this is something different for him, kind of managing both, from being a coach, to now managing the team as far as the players they get and they pay.”

Kelly and the organization first came to an agreement with Ryan Matthews.  The Matthews deal is not off the charts.   Then unsuspectingly, the DeMarco Murray opportunity fell into their lap.  It made sense to sign him, but you can’t give him as much money as you were going to pay McCoy.

If there was any panic on the Eagles part, it was the decision to give Murray $21 million dollars of guaranteed money.   Murray has been able to stay healthy throughout only one full season in his career.  He was injured numerous times in college and he’s has been injured numerous times during his NFL career.  Running backs get hurt all the time and that’s why I don’t think it’s wise to give them big guaranteed contracts.

Ryan O’Halloran of the Florida Times-Union, tells us that Jaguars general manager Dave Caldwell said the Eagles paid Murray more than 2 million more than the Jaguars were willing to pay him.  They should have set a lower ceiling for Murray.  There’s no way you can guarantee him $21 with an average salary of $8 million a year, when the guy has a reputation of not being able to stay healthy.

If Murray goes down with an injury in the upcoming year, Chip is going to be “called on the carpet for it”.  I can understand signing Murray, he’s Chip Kelly’s type of back, but I wouldn’t have given him all that guaranteed money.

If Murray leads the league in rushing again and dominates, while Ryan Matthews and Darren Sproles pitch in when they’re asked to, no one will care how much they’re being paid.

Chip Kelly needs these guys to be healthy and productive.

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koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 23, 2015 9:00 pm

Chip Kelly’s moves have on the face of it…been pretty good. Of course, there is a gamble when it comes to making the move. Injuries may play in…but the bottom line is that you can play safe and be good…but not good enough to win a championship….
Chip Kelly is making moves to try to win the big one!

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 23, 2015 10:21 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Don’t like it Kool, you get the same mileage out of Murray/Polk/Sproles and spend that money Matthews money on a safety or guard too much cash spent in the backfield and that’s a bunch of horse shit that LLCB values RB’s more then Wr’s with Cooper stealing money for another year.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 23, 2015 10:51 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

How many championships did we win with Maclin DJax and McCoy?

I agree with Peter Kings assesment. You can win with what you got knowing you’ve Kerry much reached the ceiling with the talent you have or you can try and bust through the ceiling knowibg you may fall on your ass.

Sorry I was done with that mediocre shit with Reid.

They tried to give the moon to one of the best safety in the game…he stayed home. No one else in FA was close to his level.

There were.no Wrs worth the money given out.

McCoy didn’t fit. Move makes total sense. The questionable move is Bradford because we don’t know what to think on the direction yet.

And even with that…Foles regressed and wasnt thought of highly around the league. Even Reid didn’t try to get him…And he overpaid for Alex Smith.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 24, 2015 8:41 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

The questionable moves are Matthews and Bradford just my opinion. McCourty wasn’t the only safety out there and if Mathis is released and they miss on the replacements for the guards then all this making moves will be for naught. But that’s just my view on things, by the way how many championships have Alonso/Murray/Matthews/Bradford been a part of?

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 9:11 am
Reply to  Biglion821

As many as Trent Cole, Lesean McCoy, Jeremy Maclin & Nick Foles were…

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 24, 2015 10:06 am
Reply to  paulman

Or as many as Chip Kelly, what’s the point?

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 24, 2015 10:08 am
Reply to  Biglion821

By the way my asking about those guys winning championships were to Izell’s post which included McCoy and Maclin not winning championships.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 24, 2015 10:10 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Replacing guys who haven’t won championships with guys who haven’t won championships coached by a guy who hasn’t won championships. There see how stupid that sounds.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 24, 2015 10:27 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Replacing guys who ceiling has been reached and that you arent going to go any higher with guys you think have higher potential and fit your plan for the future makes perfect sense.

Thats literal Business 101 when taking over a failed franchise/business.

You trudge along with the same names etc that basically got back to back losing ceilings under a previous regime and thinking magically they will change is pure nonsense.

What Kelly did do was take the previous regimes talent and go to the playoffs and pretty much had the same result as Reid in the playoffs…because they were a flawed limited team that couldnt get over the hump.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 24, 2015 10:52 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Izell we agree on this point, I actually wanted Kelly to come in year 1 and blow this whole thing up, so I have 0 problems with replacing guys I just hate when people equate being good with winning championships as if championships grow on trees. That is making lazy statements.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 24, 2015 11:00 am
Reply to  Biglion821

BigL we are lock step with each other. I agree the same way…championships dont grow on trees…takes a bit of luck…a bit of circumstance…and proper planning and direction.

My point is the previous regime of players actually got us to Chip Kelly. None of them were god sends to me IMO. I was the biggest Maclin fan on this board….but at best he was a Jordy Nelson level receiver….and he would have been great to keep…but deep down he wasnt a championship piece.

Andy Reid moved on from the greatest QB we have had in decades and was willing to move on to Kevin Kolb…..Kevin Kolb lol.

This happens all the time when you reach point and deep down you know its not going further.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 24, 2015 10:22 am
Reply to  Biglion821

IMO big McCourty was the only safety of consequence out there….and I would have gone McCourty draft a CB and went after a cheaper alternative at the other CB(wasnt a Maxwell fan).

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 23, 2015 11:47 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

We keep thinking about the money…who is out there that we really want but cant get because of money? What safety or guard is now available that is really worth significant money?

I think we are in trouble with regards to the safety…as far as guards we can address that in the draft…I have no problem getting the Oregon kid, Jake Fisher for a guard spot…

The bottom line is stand pat and hope that maybe you can get better when you know you didn’t have the talent at QB…

or take a chance and a gamble with talent!

I’ll take the second option every time…

Again…there are no guarantees…none of it may work.

Maxwell could be a bust, Bradford may get hurt again…none of it may work out…but what was the option?

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 8:36 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Don’t you think that if Kelly was 100% Sold on QB Mariota being the QB to take this Team to the Championship Level that he would have packaged his best Trading PLayers in order to Move up to get Mariota..
WHy Send McCoy to Bills and Foles to Rams when both could have been packaged alons with Draft Picks to Really move up and get your QB if you felt that strong about him… Would a Tennessee Titans Team who have holes everywhere and had $$$$ entertain a Foles, McCoy, M Kendricks plus a 1st & 3rd Round Picks for their #2 Overall Pick ??
I believe in the end, that Chip Kelly thinks he has a better chance of WInning with Sam Bradford than he did with Foles and it was no secret that MCCoy was going to be moved this Off-Season.. He just isn’t Chips Style of RB where Chip wants North./South RB’s … Heck last Year was the writing on the wall where Sproles Replaced McCoy on 3rd Downs most of the Time and Polk took the Carries in the Red-Zone… There was no way McCoy and his $10.5 Million Contract was going to remain in Philly.. I called this last Off-Season that McCoy was the final Piece of the Big 3 to be moved (Vick,D-Jax & McCoy) from the Eagles

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 24, 2015 9:04 am
Reply to  paulman

I don’t think it’s about Chip not being sold on Mariota, he speaks of him to highly as a QB, football player, and person. I think Chip realizes that the possibility of getting him is slim. However, if Chip said he believes mariota is the best QB in the draft and compared his mental processing ability to Peyton Manning, what more could he say to let you know he is sold on him. If Mariota fell within reach, I don’t think Chip would blink twice to get him….hell, he would run the card up there himself from the Novacare..that’s how damn fast he would be moving the LLCB!
The only person I have heard Chip speak more highly of than Mariota is DeMeco “Mufasa” Ryans. Sometimes it just is what it is…some people thought Chip thought highly of Foles as a football player when there was nothing Chip said or did indicating that.

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 9:27 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

His actions should don’t reflect this by Trading away his best “Trade Value Players” and not using them in a Package to move up to get the Best QB in this Draft tells me more about what he really thinks about Mariota than what he says to the Media…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
March 24, 2015 10:31 am
Reply to  paulman

Or Paulman he may love Marriotta but he is smart enough to know gutting the team of draft picks to get him leaves him no shot in winning because the talent base here was limited.

If like you said some time ago…if Marriotta somehow drops out of the top 10…I believe he moves up. I also think since Bradford knew about the trade for weeks that the reason they have not renegotiated his contract yet is because they laid that possibility out to him in advance.

Thats my tin foil hat theory though…..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 24, 2015 2:50 pm
Reply to  paulman

Everyone thinks you can just so easily put a package of players together and …presto…you got a deal…Its not that easy people!!!
No one wanted Foles, the Titans didn’t want Foles…and would Tennessee’s salary structure allow them to take on Foles, McCoy, and Kendricks.
I was all in on Chip Kelly doing whatever he had to do to get the Mariota IF that is who he really wanted…
Chip obviously is not going to deplete the roster to get Mariota…and so he has made moves to improve the defense, got a QB who he thinks is much better than Foles, and placed more emphasis on North-South runners…
Chip is going to sink or swim with players and styles that he believes in…its his neck that’s on the line….I agree with moves and think they give us the best chance to win

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 3:33 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I think the Moves Chip Kelly has made will make the Eagles more Competitive in 2015, as far as the Future goes, who knows..
Kelly is a College Coach and he’s going about things on a year to year basis.. He was unable to purge much last Off-Season since they won the NFC East and went to Playoffs in 2013 which was not expected.. Now its a fast track for rebuilding which he’s done a lot to turn over the Roster this Season which was needed

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 24, 2015 3:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

it all falls on bradford– there has been all kinds of bradford love and spin the last couple of weeks–‘mind like a computer’ etc—
listening to lurie today– he talked extensively about a franchise qb– and a qb, coach are the key to SB– we shall see– i can’t see such a failure as bradford magically turning it on… 5 sub par seasons and now he is ‘the best qb since manning’ — blah blah…. i will believe it when i see it…

DCar
DCar
March 25, 2015 4:04 am
Reply to  paulman

Wow, havenoclue, is that a smidge of skepticism & criticism, that I see in one of your posts? Dam, I’m impressed. Somebody else has to be using your keyboard??

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 25, 2015 5:54 am
Reply to  paulman

how can anyone be optimistic about bradford… even if you take away the knees– say he is 100% healthy –a super computer at QB can make a bad team pretty good — look at what luck did -shitty team gets wifi qb with all the intangibles and bang–make the playoffs– bradford not so much…

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 23, 2015 10:16 pm

This is old info Gcobb is cool, but he’s late on current info. See jakedog you pussy Gcobb is late on everything, but he’s a racist, and we all should boycott him you fucken loser.

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 23, 2015 11:35 pm

Kool Izzell ..you suck the green Kool aid both of you ..one has it with an I hate Nick chaser ..What this guy did isn’t that abnormal , he purged another guys ,guys and the organization that paid them …he wants full control.Doesnt mean he’s moving on from mediocrity but two 10-6 seasons.thats what’s more unprecedented ..He wants so badly to obtain the “I did it my way ” monicker .As a fan I don’t have a choice but to watch it play out ,however we are minus a number one receiver in back to back seasons ,having received zero compensation ,and he kept two skill players around ..riley Cooper and Celek …he spent (so far) 18.4 plus million on the qbs In the next two years on a rehabbing gimp 1 yrs 12.9 and Mark sanchez.(2yrs 5.5 ) ..he’s definitely not done ,because when rivers is out there at 17 mill…he has all the tools …and two non surgically repaired knees

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 24, 2015 12:03 am
Reply to  deserteagle

desert, your problem is that you drank the Nick Foles kool aid. You thought he was the franchise QB. You, Vinnie and others wanted to give that bum a long term deal similar to Kaepernick.
If Chip would have made that move and been ‘patient’, we would have assured our spot as a mediocre team for the next few years.

The reality is what I have told you all year long….its what the vast majority of the NFL sees about Nick Foles

He’s not good enough!

So Chip didn’t give away a QB with any significant potential…he had no value to most of the teams in the league. So the gamble for Bradford is a very good one!~ Take a chance on talent as opposed to a mediocre player.
I dont like Riley Cooper either…and he will be replaced soon…lets see if we can get a wr in the draft who can take Cooper’s job.z

I’m not disappointed over Maclin either…he’s not worth 10 million…he’s not that tough…he’s not as good as DJax.

The bottom line is that we are taking a gamble…I realize it can go bad…but standing pat and waiting around and hoping Foles got better was a bad option….so I agree with Chip…

deserteagle
deserteagle
March 23, 2015 11:37 pm

Another haste makes waste ..

tua14768
tua14768
March 24, 2015 8:33 am

I think McCoy needs to focus on the Bills and stop talking about the Eagles. He no longer plays for the team. I enjoyed his time here, but I am not devastated he is gone.

I have been saying through the course of last season that the Eagles need a power run game. The offense would function so much more efficiently with power backs. McCoy is not a power back. He is talented and can make people miss, but does not break tackles.

What we have now is an upgrade at the running back position. Yes they both have injury issues, however with splitting the carries I think they can overcome this.

I am disappointed Maclin is gone. I think he has been a better receiver than what this City gives him credit for. I think all around and overall he is better than DJax because he is not simply a deep threat. Instead, he’s good running multiple routes. It will be hard to replace him.

Overall all of the moves so far seem good (risky but good) for the exception of letting Maclin walk.

Butch007
Butch007
March 25, 2015 12:37 am
Reply to  tua14768

Reporters are going to ask players embroiled in controversy about the teams they just left that are making questionable moves it’s going to happen…deal with it.

You really think exchanging relatively healthy players fro brittle ones is a good idea? I have a very special all ailment curing liquid remedy to sell that I think you’ll love…lol

tua14768
tua14768
March 25, 2015 7:29 am
Reply to  Butch007

@ Butch.

I absolutely agree that reporters will ask players about their former teams. However, that is not what I was talking about. Instead, I was discussing McCoy’s response to the questions. I am not upset the question was asked, I am disappointed in the response.

A professional would have answered by saying ” he does not know what the team is doing and that he does not really care because he no longer plays there and has since moved on with his career.” He could have even said that if they(media) wanted to know they can ask Chip or any of the current Eagles. Instead, we saw a bitter and pouting McCoy who tried to say the Eagles were “panicking.” I don’t understand how that is possible when one of the players acquired to fill the spot he used to occupy had arguably better stats over the past two seasons. Additionally, Chip now has the north/south runners he likes instead of the “dance in the backfield” style McCoy plays with.

To address your second comment, if the players who are acquired are better, or fit the system better, then I think it is a good idea to take the risk. Players recover from injuries all of the time.We just lost a receiver who came off of an ACL tear to have a career year. It is risky, but I rather take the risk in order to become great as opposed to keeping the status quo to stay mediocre. The “relatively healthy” players, outside of Maclin, really didn’t fit what Chip wanted. Therefore, Chip got rid of them.

I don’t know what’s so hard to understand about any of this. I guess its harder for some than others.

DMAN
DMAN
March 24, 2015 12:45 pm

What’s up with the Eagles trying to trade away Mathis. Who is going to take over his spot? If they trade him or release him then that’s 2 holes to fill at the G position. He’s only due what $4.5M? I’m sure they can address this through the draft, but the guy is a solid player and knows the O. Just doesn’t make sense

Jeff Kolsky
March 24, 2015 1:31 pm
Reply to  DMAN

If they cut a “starting” offensive guard instead of releasing Ryans who is recovering from a major injury and a back-up at this point, it’s a terrible move by Chip.

Get rid of Ryans, keep Mathis who is still one of the best at his position.

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 1:42 pm
Reply to  DMAN

Mathis Due $5.5 In Salary for 2015 but Counts $6.5 Million toward the 2015 Cap due to his Prorated Bonus $$$ .. If Eagles Cut/Release him by June 1st, then they will knock $4.5 Million off their Cap Space… In other Words, C U Later Evan Mathis

Eagles have Tobin, Gardner and will use 2 Draft Picks on OL early in the Draft to Compete at Guard

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 24, 2015 1:13 pm

Dman they are cap strapped right they need all the,money they can get cause they are paying Bradford 13million

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 1:49 pm

Another for whatever it’s worth Dept about the GM Decision’s that Chip Kelly Is making..
Buffalo Bills HC Rex Ryan just said he and his Group were “shocked to learn that McCoy was available” and said that great opportunities like this don’t happen very often in the NFL and that the entire Deal took 30 Minutes to consummate from the initial call to complete the Deal..
Did the Eagles even ask for anything else outside of LB Kiko Alonso ?
I am sure the Bills would have coughed up a 5th or 6th Round Pick to acquire a Top #5 RB in all the NFL
Was there a prep work done by Kelly and his Team to sense a Market for McCoy..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 24, 2015 3:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

The Bills wasn’t coughing up an extra 5th or 6th rounder for McCoy…the trade off is that they were getting an All-Pro established running back with a massive salary and we were getting a very good young linebacker..at very low cost.
The salary structure puts deals in a whole different dimension…
Kelly did his homework…we haven’t come up short in any of these deals at all

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 24, 2015 3:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

The vikings said something similar when they got hershel…
if you for one second don’t think ‘prep work’ is done by kelly and his people then you’ve not paid attention…

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 1:52 pm

****New Rumors have the Eagles Trading WR Jordan Matthews, LB M Kendricks & RB Chris Polk to the Vikings for RB Adrian Peterson…

More Trades to Come per Sources at Owners Meeting in Phoenix

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2015 1:55 pm

**NFL News***

JJ Watt of Texans Re-Structures his Deal to free up $8 Million
worth of Cap Space as Texans remain aggressive to improve their Club