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Brian Baldinger on Brandon Boykin: “One heck of a football player they let walk out the door”

BrandonBoykin25Beneath all of the accusations and controversy surrounding the trading of Brandon Boykin to the Steelers is the fact that Boykin is a very good football player.  He was one of the best nickel corners in the league.  Teams play three wide receivers all the time.  The nickel back is really a starter on the defensive side of the ball.

He was one of the best athletes on the Eagles roster from a speed and quickness standpoint.  I have watched Boykin out-jump much bigger guys for the football.  I believe his vertical jump is near 40 inches, which is near the best in the league.  I don’t think you can simply look at somebody’s height and be able to estimate how big they play the game.

Not only does he have outstanding coverage skills, Boykin is a playmaker on Special Teams in the all important Hawk role.  He runs down on punts and makes a play on the punt returner.  He’s one of the best in the league at doing that assignment.  How much yardage does that compute to in a game?

NFL Network Analyst Brian Baldinger was just on 97.5 this morning with Anthony Gargano and he was in agreement with me about the trading of Boykin.

“I was just in Buffalo’s camp with Rex Ryan and New England’s camp with Bill Belichick and in New York with Todd Bowles and they all say you can’t have enough good corners and pass rushers”, Baldinger said.

“I know JaCorey Shepard and Randall Evans”, Baldinger said.  “I know him I did his games at Kansas State and believe me, they’re not Brandon Boykin.  Maybe they just want them because they’re six feet tall, that may be the case.  Just a heck of a football player they just let walk out the door.”

“I’ve seen Brandon Boykin intercept passes against the Baltimore Ravens, pick off Joe Flacco and I’ve seen him go up 38 inches in the air and he ain’t playing at 5’10”.  When that ball is in the air, he’s not playing at that size”.

I don’t understand why you trade a guy, who has proven he can make big plays in this league.  Remember Boykin made the interception against Dallas to clinch a playoff appearance for the Eagles.  He had six interceptions in one season.  Are you kidding me?  These rookie corners who the Birds just drafted haven’t proven they can do anything in the league.

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clemenza
clemenza
August 3, 2015 9:37 am

This whole “size thing” for trading him is total nonsense as slot receivers are usually smaller and Boykin plays bigger than his height,watch him on YouTube in the slam duck contest .In a passing league you can NEVER have enough good cover guys….Chip has entirely to much power for a guy that got out coached when we were at home against the Saints in the playoffs when we were favored to win

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
August 3, 2015 9:57 am

You totally missed the point with all of this menza Boykin might the height of,a slot cb but Boykin doesn’t want to play the slot he wants to be on the outside and he would’ve never played on the outside here and if they kept him in the slot and let play out the yr they would’ve got nothing cause he wasn’t gonna resign here to play the slot

gmcliff
gmcliff
August 3, 2015 10:15 am

I don’t think much of Boykin’s abilities, he made some plays, but many have a short memory on how many times he was burned on the outside when he was given the chance to play there.

That being said, he is better than any rookie – I agree with Gary. But if was so good, why was it that all the Eagles could get for him was a conditional 5th round pick????…….

They got more for Bryce Brown, who like Boykins, had his moments too. He had 6 interceptions in one season…..How many did he have last year??

I think if he consistently posted those types of numbers – you could make a case for him, but if that season was an aberration…….then maybe he wasn’t as good as that season suggested

– But he is better than Sheppard, or any other rookie they have on the roster right now – so another head scratcher from Chip Kelly

patrik411
patrik411
August 3, 2015 10:16 am

I think we find out this year , if chip kelly is too anal in his thinking on weight, bone size and all of the other intangibles, the nfl hasn,t focused so hard in the past, it may very well be he will fail badly., or the fans will soon love his process.I’m a eagle fan so Im pullling for chip ,but have quite a few doubts, but have learned to keep a wait and see approach, Hard to argue against the experts, though with boykin , He is a a very very good player, Just pray for chip he does not hire a 5/9/ inch white guy to take Boykins place.Then we rrally have something to write about.

paulman
paulman
August 3, 2015 10:40 am
Reply to  patrik411

Eagles Sign “Paulman” a 5′-9″, 185lbs White Guy to Play Slot CB..
Details at 11pm

gmcliff
gmcliff
August 3, 2015 11:08 am
Reply to  patrik411

Pat I think Chip Kelly is stuck in College measurable mode, and on talent evaluation. This is the NFL, the next level. He is lagging behind in what is needed to win on this level in my opinion….

If Kiko Alonso, doesn’t play up to what he was his rookie year, was it a good move to move McCoy fro an inferior talent???

If Walter Thurmond, is as bad as Bradley Fletcher in the Secondary, was that still a good move on his part??

The guy thinks his former players are better than what they really are on this level. Nothing will surprise me this year.

paulman
paulman
August 3, 2015 1:33 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I think Chip Kelly’s Problem and that he’s so used to have new Teams with New Players every Year in College playing against other Teams in similar situations with new young Players and New Coach’s that he forgets that Other Teams in the NFL have game Tape and Coach’s & Staffs & Players who have been around and and build Schemes and continuity to overcome any athletic deficiencies they may have where as every Team Chip Kelly is Playing against is not starting brand new like Kelly seems to enjoy doing doing…

gmcliff
gmcliff
August 3, 2015 3:18 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s possible Paul. That’s a good point…

paulman
paulman
August 3, 2015 10:20 am

Boykins is a good Solid NFL Player in the mold that Juselio Hanson was for the Eagles a few Years back… He had a so-so 2014 Season but alot of that could have been the crappy Coaching and Scheme from Previous Secondary Coach.. He is replaceable and did not fit the Future Plans for the Eagles and would have left via Free-Agency after 2015 Season anyways where the Eagles would have gotten nothing in Return so getting a Conditional Pick which should end up as a 4th Rounder from the Steelers is a good Deal for the Eagles and a Good Deal for the Steelers
I always thought Boykins would excel as a Punt Returner in the NFL as he did in College but never seemed to want it at the NFL Level and was very tentative the few chances he had earlier in his Eagles Career…

paulman
paulman
August 3, 2015 3:41 pm

The only thing I can see Boykin being upset over is that he was told he would get a fair chance at competing for an Outside CB so he could be a Starter and was never really given that chance by Davis/Kelly… Bottom Line the last 2 Eagles Coaching Staffs have deemed that he was best as a Slot CB.. Lets see what he plays for the Steelers who have needs at Outside and Slot CB..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
August 3, 2015 10:02 pm

Baldy you are overrating Boykins…He is a good solid player no doubt..but I have also seen him over powered and abused in the run game. He also slipped last year from the previous year…he was unhappy, we got something back for him…solid move…good luck in Pittsburgh-Boykin…you did a solid job here

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 6:28 am
Reply to  GarryCobb

I agree G-Man… One thing we have all learned is that no Eagles Player was very impressive Last Season under Former Seconday Coach John Lovett who seemed slow to mix up Coverages and give Teams/QB’s different looks…
MalcolmJenkins was probably the only Player to have a “Average” Season last year while the others all looked lost and in bad positions which some lost goes to Lovett & DC Davis in my opinion

zilents44
zilents44
August 4, 2015 10:04 am

G you are so right about boykin giving up 1st downs last year and it was too mediocre 3 receivers i think cole beasley even abused boykin in coverage so yeah he can be replaced but I loved boykin the year before…..they got good value for a1 yr player

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 10:16 am
Reply to  zilents44

Can anyone name 1 DB on the Eagles from 2014 who had a Good Season?
Even Malcolm Jenkins who started off playing real well, ended up with an Average Season..

zilents44
zilents44
August 4, 2015 11:42 am

Malcolm jenkins could have had a great season if he didnt drop so many ints especially in the seattle game

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 12:02 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Which is why the Saints converted M Jenkins from CB to Safety to begin with was due to his bad hands.. Remember that Jenkins was the 14th Player Selected in the 1st Round by the Saints out of Ohio State in the 2009 Draft

zilents44
zilents44
August 4, 2015 12:35 pm

Yea I remember……he is a good player but not much impact besides almost making big plays

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 1:06 pm
Reply to  zilents44

MJ is much better at Safety than he was at outside CB where he struggled big time.. Outside CB at the NFL Level is probably the most demanding Position in all of Football to be honest.. Maybe LT is right up there with it as well as QB

gmcliff
gmcliff
August 4, 2015 3:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

Would you give Kendricks a shot at Strong Safety with his speed, and instincts??

I would… I suggested that a few years ago as well….

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 3:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Not now for its a too late I beleive to transition Kendricks to the Safety Spot
Kendricks has not shown to be very effective in Pass-Coverage Skills at the LB Position at this point of his Carrer so making a Transition to Safety where he would have to drop 20-25 Lbs and increase his Agility, Drop Back Skills, Ball in Flight Skills and I just don’t see happening at this stage of his Career..
I would focus more on what Kendrick’s does well and his natural best which is rush to the backfield from either from the Inside or Outside LB Position’s and would let him continue doing that .. I would line him up over Center, Guard, OT, TE and move him all around the Formations and send him after the QB on almost every play.. He is not very good backing pedaling
Kendricks has great burst and tremendous straight line speed but at Safety you need that great vertical, stop and start, flexible hips and turn and go type of skills that Kendricks has struggled with in covering TE’s at the LB position.. Dropping back 20 Yards with WR’s bearing down on him is probably not a good thing…

gmcliff
gmcliff
August 4, 2015 9:17 pm
Reply to  paulman

I disagree….

zilents44
zilents44
August 4, 2015 3:55 pm

Great analysis pman I believe kendricks has been a lb his whole career in college and of course pros, he is ok coverage wise but it is too late to change his position now

zilents44
zilents44
August 4, 2015 3:57 pm

The best thing about him is his blitzing he cant be blocked with that speed

paulman
paulman
August 4, 2015 4:35 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I am a proponent of letting Players do what they do best and in Kendricks case, he’s much more effective when Rushing and moving Forward than dropping backward, so I would have him Rush,Rush,Rush every chance I could even if it’s in Run Blitzing Defensive Schemes or Calls.. I do not have him stand still or back-pedal.. I have him rushing forward to blitz a gap against the Run, to break up a lead block on a run or to get after the ball carrier or QB… This is when he’s a beast and makes Play’s