• September 30, 2022

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Eagles Make Too Many Mistakes, Lose Winnable Game

I thought the Eagles showed a lot of positives in today’s loss, but the mistakes kept piling up and ultimately cost the team a valuable win.

The biggest thing that jumped out to me today were the penalties. The Eagles racked up an astounding 14 penalties for over 111 yards. The most crucial of which may have come in the fourth quarter, where a holding penalty on Brandon Brooks wiped out a 20+ yard run by Ryan Mathews that that would have put the Birds in the redzone.

Throughout the game, it seemed as though the Eagles would always commit a penalty whenever they were able to come up with a third-down stop, or came up with a key play on offense. There were even two delay-of-game infractions, which were frankly inexcusable.

On top of the penalties, the Eagles’ offense committed their first turnovers of the season, both within the final two and a half minutes of the fourth quarter. Ryan Mathews had an absolutely egregious fumble, which set the Lions up with a short field, and Carson Wentz threw an interception on the team’s final drive, a play in which Nelson Agholor made no effort to break up the play.

Skill-Position Players Weren’t Good Enough Today

Through the first three games of the season, the Eagles had been getting solid, though unspectacular efforts from their skill-position guys.

Today, the backs and receivers didn’t do a lot to help Carson Wentz.

It’s scary to think about what Wentz will be able to do once he has a couple of truly reliable targets. Nelson Agholor and Dorial Green-Beckham both dropped catchable passes that should have gone for touchdowns in today’s game.

Wentz put the ball in perfect spots on both throws, and neither wideout was able to make a play.

Agholor just continues to be frustrating. There’s nothing special about his talent, and he doesn’t seem like he can be anything more than just a guy in this league.

In Green-Beckham’s defense, it appeared as if he may have been interfered with on the play, but it was still a catch he absolutely should have made.

Schwartz’ Defense Comes Out Flat

One of the most disappointing elements of today’s game was the defense’s effort in the first half.

The Eagles had no answers for what the Lions were doing offensively, allowing 21 points in the second half. The team was unable to get off of the field on third downs, they couldn’t get pressure on Matt Stafford early in the game, and they weren’t able to force any turnovers in the first half.

To Schwartz’s credit, the defensive staff made some good adjustments at the half, and the defense did its part to hold the Lions down in the second half to allow the offense to rally.

Quick Thoughts

Offense

  • Very surprising that Doug Pederson went completely away from his four-man running back rotation to stick primarily with Ryan Mathews and Darren Sproles. Neither Wendell Smallwood, nor Kenjon Barner saw any touches on offense today, which was disappointing considering how well both guys have run the ball through the first three games.
  • Dorial Green-Beckham had a very nice catch and run that brought the Eagles down to the goalline and set up their third touchdown. DGB is the one guy in the receiving group that I have very high hopes for.
  • Carson Wentz has over 1,000 yards and seven touchdown passes through the first quarter of the season. He could easily have three more touchdowns to his credit, if not for his receivers dropping them in the endzone.
  • I thought the offensive line did not have a very good game against a Detroit line that was without their best pass rusher in Ezekial Ansah.
  • Zach Ertz returned to the lineup, but the Eagles weren’t able to do any damage with their three-tight end packages.

Defense

  • What in the world has happened to Mychal Kendricks? The guy is just invisible, and doesn’t make any plays anymore.
  • Leodis McKelvin reinjured his hamstring. Disappointing that the veteran has contributed so little through the first four games.
  • Fletcher Cox has been a force, but the penalty for ripping Stafford’s helmet off cost the team four points.
  • Bennie Logan and Vinny Curry also recorded sacks today.

Special Teams

  • Caleb Sturgis hit all three of his field goal attempts, including a 50-yarder.

Final Thoughts

This one hurts.

The Eagles lost a winnable game to a bad team, losing their hold on first place in the NFC East, losing a chance to go to 4-0.

This is the type of loss that could really come back to haunt the team later in the season, but there were still positives in the defeat.

I don’t think Doug Pederson did a good enough job having this team prepared to play off of the bye week, and perhaps that shouldn’t be unexpected of a rookie head coach.

Lost in the success of a 3-0 start is the fact that this is still a very young football team, coached by a first-time head coach. There’s still going to be a fair amount of growing pains for this bunch, and we saw some of those take place in today’s loss.

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mhenski
mhenski
October 10, 2016 9:34 am

Eagles have to move away from throwing the ball to agholor. after the first game or 2 i started thinking he may be serviceable but nah.

check our pass catchers targets vs catches yesterday
J Matt 4 targets 4 catches – awesome
DGB 4 targets 3 catches – pretty damn good
ertz 3 targets 3 catches – perfect
ryan matt 5 targets 5 catches – perfect
sproles 4 targets 4 catches – perfect
huff 3 targets 3 catches – perfect
burton 2 targets 1 catch – good

Nelson Agholor – 7 targets and 2 god damn catches. HE SUCKS. He can make the easy plays but anything challenged he is awful, he doesnt fight for the ball, he has no awareness, HE JUMPS AT EVERYTHING, Ive seen him on multiple occasions jump when the ball is about to hit him right in the numbers. bury him on the depth chart.

give those targets to ertz or i hate to say it give huff more looks and find a way to get dgb going…

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 10, 2016 11:17 am
Reply to  mhenski

Mhenski. Couldn’t agree more ,however the line play of peters has to be another area of concern.He didn’t allow. The time to allow the separation to occur ..down the field .He had an awful first half ..I also saw the center again ,bull rushed backwards on skates ..the obvious need is O line and wide out skill sets ..to establish this team in an elite category.The early defensive lapses were most disturbing ,as that shows a lack of preparation ,something they had been rock solid. On.I also agree that the depth of the four headed rushing attack that was evident in earlier games was never given as a look or an option.Making the defense react wasn’t obviously as important as trusting the sproles /Matthews tandem..

mhenski
mhenski
October 10, 2016 11:56 am
Reply to  deserteagle

regarding the pic play, wentz had a nice clean pocket to step up into and fire a 60 yard bomb.

yea the D was scary bad 1st half as stafford and riddick carved us up. but what makes that ok is the D turned it around in the 2nd half and gave us every opportunity to win the game. its all you can ask for. this D isnt minny or denver or seattle… as long as they keep you in games youre winning imo…

just rewatched that pic play a dozen or so times. im embarrassed agholor is a starter on my team. absolutely 0 effort

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 10, 2016 12:45 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I thought Agholor was worse on his….drop, or miss, or whatever you want to call it on Wentz’s outside throw to the 1/goalline. At best a TD, at worst a first and goal.. I thought it was a pathetic effort.

While Agholor’s effort was bad on the final bomb, I don’t like the decision to make that throw. Team had 1 full minute to get about 40 yards and a winning FG. No need to “go for it all” there. The kid got too amped up and chucked it there. I am confident he’ll learn from that.

We can agree that so far, Agholor has been pretty useless.

mhenski
mhenski
October 10, 2016 1:45 pm

single coverage down a fg no timeouts you have to make that throw. single coverage at almost any point in the game you have to make that throw.

fuck that

winners make that throw

dink and dunk losers dont make that throw and try to pick up first downs in 5 yard clumbs. detroit made a major mistake having single coverage there and wentz saw it and took his shot. i get the sense he will hit more of those than he will miss. throw was off, but the decision was solid

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 10, 2016 8:18 pm

There was nothing wrong with taking a shot in the end zone I don’t know how you can even say that. The problem was Agholor if that was Julio Jones, or A.J. Green that catch would have been made.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 12, 2016 8:20 pm
Reply to  Mac Dolo

I agree 100% with you and mhenski. there is no way in hell Marino, Favre, Rogers, or Peyton don’t pull the trigger after seeing single coverage with a step or 2 on the defender. I call bs on the notion that all great coaches or qbs always play it safe. If we had a just a recvr with HEART they either come down with that catch, draw a penalty, or stop the defender from catching it. As I’ve stated previously, Wentz is the best player on offense. It’s not even close.

mhenski
mhenski
October 10, 2016 10:26 pm

Man there was a lot of jameis Winston dick riding here… he fuckin stinks

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 12, 2016 8:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

You’ve just ruined a great point about the Wentz pic with this jewel. Why? Look we have our franchise qb and I wouldn’t trade him for any other young qb. But to say Winston stinks is ridiculous mhenski. Please don’t jinx our qb. If you belief he won’t have some bad games or possibly not see a soph slump, you’re drinking too much green Kool-Aid…lol

mhenski
mhenski
October 11, 2016 9:25 am

Im concerned and shocked. Wentz blatantly trolled ODB yesterday with his ‘if you aint having fun, you aint doing it right’ or something like that in response to ODB saying ‘im not having fun anymore’… man i dont like this move by wentz even a little

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 11, 2016 10:39 am
Reply to  mhenski

I loved seeing the wentz tweet,and I think it was genuine and not at all baiting o.d.b..what if hes sending him an invite..come here where fun and winning are what we do here in philly..this qb will morphe before our eyes ,hes a rare breed..advanced before his years …most rooks would be seen cowering and mindful of there ps and qs..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 11, 2016 10:46 am

I guess Lane is out for 10 games.

I did not like the Wentz tweet. Doesn’t seem to fit his personality.

Remember all the “There’s no QB the caliber of Winston and Mariotta in this draft!!!!” Ya, whoops.

mhenski
mhenski
October 11, 2016 11:21 am

yea but where all them posters go? haaa

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 11, 2016 11:51 am
Reply to  mhenski

Winston will be fine… Don’t be so reactionary and quick to judge based off a couple of games. His performance is not even sophomore slump status. Winston’s skills have not diminished. Man you guys are fickle sometimes. Relax.

mhenski
mhenski
October 11, 2016 12:04 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

agree he will be fine. middle of the road qb for his career top 20 type guy not top 10…

lot of jameis dick riders were touting him as a great one

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 12, 2016 8:29 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Now you see the Philly curse. Our fans just can’t wrap the heads around the fact that you have to accomplish something before you start running your mouth. the moment our young qb starts experiencing his rough stretches, the wolves and critics will be at his the team’s throats. Is it so hard to rejoice in what we have instead of finding issues with a player not even on our team?

mhenski
mhenski
October 11, 2016 3:23 pm

HOWIE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO TRADE FOR ALSHON JEFFREYS NOW

mhenski
mhenski
October 12, 2016 3:40 pm

FYI PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS HAS WENTZ GRADED OUT AS #1 QB IN THE NFL

AND

KELCE AS 35TH BEST CENTER

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 12, 2016 3:53 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They need to upgrade from Kelce. The O Line needs to be more stout and physical at the point of attack, specifically at Center. I would not be surprised if Seumalo is the heir apparent.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 12, 2016 8:32 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

As much as I think Lane is overrated, I find Kelce twice as much. We need to find his replacement SOON.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 13, 2016 12:00 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

Yep Brewski never fails let’s hope Wentz fulfills what looks great potential but ah yes let’s degrade every other young QB. Henski Winston will be fine too much slinging in Tampa they need a run game, Dak looks nothing like he did in college biggest surprise besides Wentz and to those who thinks well with that Oline and Zeke who wouldn’t do well. Be serious look who his backup is right now.

mhenski
mhenski
October 13, 2016 9:12 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I completely disagree, Winston isnt very good. He is throwing to one of the best WR in the NFL and looking like ass doing it… He is a servicable starter but I dont see him ever being top 10. just my opinion

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 13, 2016 10:48 am
Reply to  mhenski

We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I think that having what appears to transcending, once in a generation talent like Wentz has some high off football crack. If we didn’t have Wentz, I’d have no problem with Winston being our franchise qb. mhenski how you can state that a young qb in only his 2nd year is destined for just a serviceable career is baffling. Looking like ass is what we were at qb before Randall brought us some legitimacy. Looking like ass is what we looked like before McNabb helped us regain some respectability in a division where all our rivals have MULTIPLE lomardys. We were staring down the road of mediocrity again until Howie plucked this kid. Wentz literally looks better in his first 4 games than even the greats of the past and present. Let’s pray he keeps it up and raises the bar for all other qbs after him.

mhenski
mhenski
October 13, 2016 10:56 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

dont get me wrong if we didnt have wentz id want him over bradturd, vick, foles. but thats not my point

Xevious
Xevious
October 13, 2016 5:19 pm

Eagles Have only Had 3 QB’s with any real talent in my lifetime. Each were totally different None of them great but all 3 pretty good not very good. Jaw was a pretty good QB for his time. When he was playing the TD-INT Ratio was almost even…He he got us to the superbowl then tossed 3 ints. Randall played in the new era of CB’s playing off….Tons of talent screwed up head. Had a great year in Minn…but wasted it here. Five Played in an even more wide open era….I will say he had the most complete team around him of the 3. Big game tummy aches…But he needed a truly great player to get him to the big game..TO. Then he tosses 4 ints. My personal favorite was when he tosses one gets a flag and a 2nd chance and throws the same play almost to the same defender…other side of the field. Both in the endzone….Anyway, we have had One season wonders Vick Foles..retreads Peete O’brian Sanchez Garcia…Never will be’s in Hoyer Goebel and has beens Gabriel, Mcmahon. I guess my point is I don;t care about another teams maybe, or could be. I don’t care if Winston Dak Luck or any other QB is any good. Winston played like a turd in the first half, then had the TD drive. THat has been his career so far….Don;t care…just care about every guy in midnight green. Since we trade Sonny Jurgeson we have had 3 Decent franchise guys for there eras….I am just happy that for once we might have ourselves something great. We all deserve it for putting our hearts out there and having them crushed for 50 years now.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 13, 2016 5:30 pm
Reply to  Xevious

X allow me to correct the record. I agree with “most” of what you stated. one can not deny what TO’s acquisition meant to McNabb. TO in my opinion was the example of what happens win uber talent takes the field at the skilled position. McNabb’s confidence to make certain throws went threw the roof. The correction however, is McNabb actually guided his team to the SB without TO. TO was injured remember. He made it back for the SB game, not the playoff games to get there

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 13, 2016 5:20 pm

On a lighter note, Sleeves is accounting for himself rather well. That Minny team I fear is going to be a problem for a whole lot of teams who sleep on them.

Xevious
Xevious
October 13, 2016 6:14 pm

I remember TO was out, I just think that he gave the team and 5 the confidence that year. Basically the same team got Iced by Carolina the year before….It’s really a small point though. Very small is the totality of our discussion. Actually Brew I have worse news…Sleeves was named the #1 player overall in the NFL in week 5. After what he has been through I am happy for him. Until Next week then he can break his ass on the Linc’s field. Let’s get by the Djacs this Sunday before worrying about Sleeves.

CT
CT
October 13, 2016 6:49 pm

People who hated on Bradford was just purely on sensitive emotions, and nothing else.

Look what happens when you have a supporting cast , and coach around you. It’s not rocket science. You need a team to succeed at this level.

All that “check down ” is out the window now huh? Sam leads the nfl in big time throws and is 2nd in the nfl in least Amount of turnovers on those big time throws.

Dude is a straight up athlete and would have philly at 3-1 also maybe even 4-0.

I love the kid and the direction this team is at don’t get me wrong in anyway. I’m glad we got our picks and started he future when we could by getting rid of Sam. But it is going to be a tough game when Sammy comes to the linc pissed.

This defense knows his tendencies better then any Team in the league. They played with and practiced against him for two years. It’s in philly, and they will be without KHALIL and AP. Maybe Diggs? They also will be coming off there bye.

Expect a 17-20 type game against Minny after we blow out the redskins on Sunday.

Which story line sounds more believable? Redskins beating Philly 4 times in a row? Or Carson wentz being good enough to bring us to 4-1? No way Washington wins 4 straight. There due a road loss.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 13, 2016 7:17 pm

This is what Jordan Matthews had to say about Wentz, then he said something else about a QB constantly checking down. He was talking about Bradford.

“As long as 11’s back there, he’s going to give us opportunities,” Matthews said. “He doesn’t shy away from that. He’s just going to give guys opportunities, because he always feels like that next play might be the one.

“I don’t know, sometimes we don’t know how fortunate we are to have a guy like that. Some guys would get gun-shy and just want to check it down all day but Carson’s still going to give us some opportunities. It’s cut and dried. We have to go out and make plays.

Sam Bradford’s longest pass has been 46 yards. Bradford clearly has better WR help than Wentz, but I see Wentz doing more with less talent around him. Keep in mind, Wentz is a rookie, not a seven year vet.
The reason I did not want nor like Bradford was because he does not make players around him better and therefore not a franchise not a franchise QB in my opinion. Bradford needs a team like Minnesota in order for him to have success in the league, and good for him for playing well, he’s a good QB but nothing special.
Bradford is still a check down Charlie who needs that strong supporting cast around him. I’m thankful that he’s gone because the Eagles currently do not have that cast, I hope in two years we do, but I feel much better about the Eagles future with Wentz at the helm than Sam Bradford.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 17, 2016 8:04 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL I believe most “good” qbs, let alone the average ones, need a decent supporting cast around them to succeed. The Wentzs of the world are once in a generation. And yes, they do make the players around them better, but they can only do so much. This kid needs help. I’m seriously thinking about getting my old ass in shape and try to make the team as a wide-out. can’t be no worse.

CT
CT
October 13, 2016 8:32 pm

No doubt about it Eagle and I agree with nearly everything u said.

Wentz however has had help this year that Sammy sleeves could have only wished for in Philly.

Especially in coaching and defensively. Nelson being improved with DGB and everyone else being improved. Improved Oline. Wentz has been the spark on offense as a rookie no doubt about it, and he has carried us and made everyone better as a rookie. But the schedule also was in his favor as well.

We should beat Minny. It’s at home and we will have that rust knocked off hopefully after this Washington and Detroit game. Hopefully Minny cools down a bit coming off there bye like we did and comes out flat.

Sam Bradford has been balling and has been taking care of the football similar to what he did weeks 8-16 last season throwing 10tds and only 4 ints. 2 of those ints came off of the hands of the wr btw.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 13, 2016 10:02 pm
Reply to  CT

Sam Bradford. Please. Every single Vikings fan knows how that will end. And if you don’t, you haven’t been paying attention in class.

mhenski
mhenski
October 13, 2016 10:04 pm

Nah vikes fans hate teddy and are thrilled with bradturd. They think they for real.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 13, 2016 11:22 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They may have hated Teddy (because Teddy was nothing) and they might have been right to do so….I mean seriously, Teddy was 28tdss – 21ints over the last 2 years? 28-21????/ 14?????-9 last yea?????

14 tds/yr…..in a 16 game season??????????????????

.So just about anything is an improvement.

How the hell can you not improve on 28-21????

Expectations are low!

That being said… deep down…deep in the cockles of their cockles….they know…..that while BF is better than TB…..this is still going to end the exact same way…….

mhenski
mhenski
October 14, 2016 9:15 am

i have a few friends in minny and talk to them regularly. man i trolled the shit out of them when that deal went down and all them were like ‘he may not be that good but he is a huge upgrade over teddy, and with AP and our D we can make a title run’. i laughed hysterically for days, but now im starting to taste crow in my mouth.

truth be told tho, sam is winning but hasnt been that impressive at all. that D is winning them games and he is playing within his limited skill set. eagles gotta beat this team and not let their defense beat them

its actually a good spot for the birds, minny schedule is ridiculously soft. they got a good shot at 11+wins

Xevious
Xevious
October 14, 2016 9:42 am

That assessment of Sleeves isn’t fair Vinnie. I am no fan of Bridgewater so I feel you there…But sleeves didn’t have a defense where he could take many chances last year. He only had Ertz and Matthews in the passing game really. He has more speed and weapons there. He has always shown talent too. I am sooo Happy Sleeves is gone, but I won;t murder him because he is producing legitimately right now. He can take chances with that defense and he strength is being accurate, which suits that team. He is doing what it takes to win and added an arial threat that Bridgewater didn’t possess yet at this time in his career, I am just being unbias like I always am except for Eagles and Dallas Players. You analyze things very well but you let the personal stuff hamper your analysis sometimes.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 14, 2016 10:37 am
Reply to  Xevious

Y maybe. That’s legit. Its not his “talent”. Its the body language/attitude that always seems to bubble up when things are not going well. I saw it again in the first half of their game vs Carolina. He was struggling and the old head/eye rolls, slumped shoulders were back.

Now it didn’t matter in that game because the pretender bullies in Carolina are having their own (predicted) meltdown (carried over from a certain press conference) and the Minny D lay waste to Carolina in that second half.

I just think that at some point, Minny will face adversity, and I don’t think SB will be able to rise to the challenge. Not his style. I think he’ll be fine as long as everything is fine….but that, of course, is not how the playoffs usually work….

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 14, 2016 12:05 pm

Sam I am ,is who he is.Lets never lose sight he had acted like a petulant child,when we shuffled the deckchairs to get wentzilla.Hes in a perfect spot ,having avoided that philly.vitriol..Hes playing for his show me deal for.minny and hes been welcomed with open arms.Im not certain he will not be most tested in his pholly.in philly game..

Stevo
Stevo
October 14, 2016 3:55 pm

Im not sure what the debate is…. those that are void of ignorance or bias knew that Sam would play well. After all, he is a good qb. That said, we got good value for him and we are moving on with a young QB who should only get better.

I live here in MN and can tell you that they love him. He’s accurate, smart, and noone seems to be making up little names to cut him down. Good for Sam. Good for the Vikes. And GREAT for the Eagles. I was rooting for him to tank so that 1 is super high. I guess now we have to root for them to get us a 2 or 3 instead.

I never understood the debates on here…. its all pretty cut and dry I think;

McNabb- gave us his all and it was almost enough.
Vick- Perhaps the most gifted athlete to ever play. IF he could read the D and/or if he worked hard in the film room early in his career he could have been one of the better qbs to play the game. He had a good long career but will be remembered more for what he didnt do than what he did.

Kolb- Who?

Foles- Great season. Epic season. But he started down his receivers and struggled with the long ball. A very solid backup and should always be in the running in camp to lead. He was never as good as the 1 guy thought but he was much better than most seemed to give him credit for.

Bradford- We didnt want him but it was a bold and risky move that really did pay off. The idiots always want a backup…. but this guy is a solid solid starter. He is MVP on O right now if the season ended today. And before you rip me…. have any of you seen a game?

C.W.- Jury is out… and will be for 3 years BUT…. in my opinion (im no armchair GM or simpleton) but he could be the best Eagle QB we have ever seen.

Its time to put the bias behind us here on gcobb. I get it… you wanted 1. (insert your fav qb here) and we didnt get him. NOW… we can and should get behind CW and move on from our overreaction and the need to be right.

Go birds!

zilents44
zilents44
October 15, 2016 10:13 am
Reply to  Stevo

I was listening to Washington sports radio, and Rick doc Walker was talking and one of his comments just burned my ass, “we have seen the eagles play their best, but they haven’t seen ours, dude we have a rookie qb getting better each week with the offense doing the same. No way in hell we have been at our best, I hate the Washington fanbase so goddamn delusional

paulman
paulman
October 15, 2016 6:50 pm

Redskins Announce both TE Jake Reed & LB Su’aCravens are out of Sunday’s Game due to Concussion’s

paulman
paulman
October 15, 2016 6:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

Make that TE Jordan Reed

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 15, 2016 9:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Chimp. Id like your inspiration,and knowing that you are bleeding panther blue ,and your quarterback ,has been a metaphorical car wreck aft his assanine,post game superbowl rant..how often weve witnessed a nickle head can trump talent..now on to my guy ,hes facing his first division foe..and cousins..desean vs schwartz..pedersons first division foe vs gruden..Ive seen the skins and im not impressed with the offense..the defense is succeptible as well vs the slot receiver..I think multiple tight end packages and alot more barner and Smallwood.Fresh legs ,expanding the roster..guys who have something to prove,in carson wentz and especially agholor..theyve buttoned up and saw the film..Agholor was passive and thats being kind ,he was more like trumps favored grab bag..I want to see the offense and the integration of its new guy.. Sometimes not drafting to supplement shows up,and its a concern,until.its not..the run game I believe will be impressive,and much more ertz in the game plan.24_17. A skin in wentzillas ledger..

mhenski
mhenski
October 16, 2016 12:24 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Lmfao at paulman. Comes back after disappearing for weeks. And comes back and posts days old info. Lmfao

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 8:57 am
Reply to  paulman

Jake Reed lol? You couldn’t shake that night of binge drinking last night paulman you woke up drunk.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:03 pm

Let’s go birds. NFC East div matchups are always difficult. However, I don’t think this game is going to be as close as some has predicted. Eagles win.

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 16, 2016 1:07 pm

Big tackles on skates …

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:07 pm

Vaiti just got destroyed…damn that was embarrassing.

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 16, 2016 1:07 pm

Thanks lame.

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 16, 2016 1:09 pm

Be interesting to see if the skins try to stretch us out early with a haymaker to Desean ..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 1:10 pm

anyone who (GM CLIFF) doesn’t like Lane Johnson just needs to replay that last sack where Vitai got driven right into Wentz.

Ugly

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 16, 2016 1:17 pm

Help the big tackle on skates out …why drafting O line can bite you …in the ass..damn ..lame ..this is not a good indication of a 5th rounder protecting 11@

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:34 pm

Tough time getting going today offensively. Wentz has to be a little more accurate, but Matthews has to come down with that ball that hit him in the hands. That’s what separates good and great receivers.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:38 pm

Damn, our d backs are getting toasted

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 1:40 pm

Really wish Lane hadn’t appealed and just took the suspension starting game 1. This might be very very difficult the next 8 games against the competition they will be facing.

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 1:43 pm

That touchdown was too damn easy.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 1:46 pm

Vitai needs help now.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:47 pm

Ok they have to double up on Vaitai’s side giving him help. This has gotten ridiculous.

paulman
paulman
October 16, 2016 1:49 pm

Wentz is starting to show some “Happy-Feet” behind this porous O/Line..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:50 pm

If Vaitai continues to struggle they may have to pull him and switch up the line. Right now he doesn’t appear as he can play at all. Way overmatched.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:53 pm

Michael Kendricks continues to get shed and miss tackles.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 1:57 pm

Wow, I said the game was not going to be close, but I was thinking the other way. WRONG!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:01 pm

Vernon Davis has not scored a TD since 2014. Of course he gets one today.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:02 pm

TOUCHDOWN WENDELL SMALLWOOD. Hopefully this can jump start us.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 16, 2016 2:04 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

That was nice right there!!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 16, 2016 2:02 pm

So the right tackle causes the entire offense to implode? Get him some help or get his ass out of the game.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 2:05 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

If its a Rt that immediately gets rushed 5 yrds into the backfield every play….then……yes.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 2:03 pm

Smallwood!

Detroit loss looming larger and larger. Eagles next (this) 4 @ Wsh, Minny @Dall @ NYG

I said they’d be 2-2….need to be 2-2 or else……

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:06 pm

The defense continues to struggle some plays they look good other plays they get beat so badly it looks like Billy Davis is still coaching.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:10 pm

Eagles defense is their own worst enemy.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:12 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Until now…INTERCEPTION…TOUCHDOWN MALCOLM JENKINS.
MARCUS SMITH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PLAY

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 2:15 pm

All right. TY Cousins.

Now….Celek on the right side to double team Kerrigan. SImple it up.

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:18 pm

22 yard run what the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:21 pm

This defense is going to give up another score before the half they have no clue whats going on out there neither does Jim Schwartz.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:22 pm

Defense is gassed. They’ve been on the field a long time, partly because they can’t stop the third down play. Looks like billy Davis defense.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:23 pm

Please get Mills off of Jackson. He does not have the speed to keep up.

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 16, 2016 2:36 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Wtf is this? Undisciplined..understanding down and situations.rookies singled on desean..bill davisesque..has mai tai vatai been drunk ..cause hes a joke

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 16, 2016 2:31 pm

That TD is on Fletcher Cox. Second week in a row he commits that stupid penalty that ends in a TD.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 2:32 pm

Very very difficult call on Cox….but that\t the stupid NFL.

Skins get ball first in the 2nd. Eagles need a stop.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 16, 2016 2:37 pm

Anybody that doesn’t think lane Johnson is an impact player is stupid… Part two he is a stupid, egomaniac who has really hurt the team.
Mills is fine.. He’s gonna be a player.
This is a terrible game

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:38 pm

Washington scores on 3rd down what a fucken shocker Eagles gave the skins every conceivable 3rd down a team can possibly give in a game.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 16, 2016 2:39 pm
Reply to  Mac Dolo

Y the announcers need to start saying “3rd and freebie” because that’s what every 3rd down is.

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:42 pm

41 fucken yards how is that even possible that has to be an NFL record

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
October 16, 2016 2:46 pm

This looks like some shit from Madden Redskins turned all their sliders up to 100 and kicks the Eagles fucken ass.