• August 16, 2022

How Do The Eagles Stack Up Against This Past Weekend’s Final Four?

Championship Sunday without a doubt provided a day full of excitement and drama right down to the wire in both games. In fact the drama out in San Francisco was seen by 33.4% of homes in the U.S. as this year’s NFC title game drew the best TV rating for any NFC conference championship game since 1995.

The game drew a rating 11% better than last season’s game between Green Bay and Chicago. The AFC game also earned a big rating as it became highest rated afternoon AFC title game since the 1994 game between Kansas City and Buffalo. Pretty outstanding numbers to say the least and at the end of the day the NFL product proved once again to be as compelling as anything on television.

Without a doubt these games could have gone either way. I’ll even go as far as saying Baltimore and San Francisco both deserved to win. They made crucial mistakes late in the game that killed it for them. The Ravens got everything they wanted and more out of their defense and quarterback play. Joe Flacco outplayed Tom Brady all afternoon which is something not many thought was possible.

Maybe he was motivated by Ed Reed’s comments earlier in the week because Flacco did a fantastic job of controlling the game for Baltimore. The defense came up with key turnovers and stops late in the game to give them a shot at the victory.

Billy Cundiff’s missed field goal was inexcusable but the bottom line is he should have never been in that position because former Buffalo Bill Lee Evans should have held on to a game winning pass a half second longer which would have iced the game for Baltimore. Based on the coverage I’ve seen on national networks such as ESPN and NFL network Cundiff is getting a lot of the blame and that shouldn’t be the case because Evans is the real goat here.

The Giants once again are advancing and deep down I had a feeling this was going to happen. Alex Smith became very Donovan McNabb like late in the game when the pressure was on. I immediately began having flashbacks of McNabb during the three NFC Championship losses when I saw how pitiful Smith was late in the game. His inability to lead the 49ers down the field late allowed Eli Manning and company to hang around and grab the victory.

Deep down I was hoping for David Akers to come out and kick the game winning field goal to give Eagle fans something to be happy about but that wasn’t the case because the football gods wouldn’t even let us have that. Eli Manning took a beating from the 49ers defense and showed the nation just how tough he can be. I can’t believe I just wrote that but it’s true Eli Manning showed more toughness in one game than Mike Vick did the entire season.

So how do the Eagles rank against the final 4 of the 2011 season? I wasn’t impressed by the level of play from any of the four teams. Of the 4 out there on Sunday Baltimore looked the most complete. If Flacco can pick up right where he left off and the defense continues to be dominant Baltimore will no doubt in my mind be right back in this position next season. The Patriots have the 31st ranked defense in the league and somehow are playing in two weeks. It’s mind boggling to me that a defense ranked that low can be in the Superbowl because I firmly believe that defense wins championships and the Eagles on paper have a lot more talent on defense then New England.

The level of play in the NFC title game didn’t impress me at all. In 2011 the Eagles had just as much talent on the offensive side of the ball as both of these teams and if it was the Eagles playing in this game against San Fran instead of NY they very well could have won. The Eagles blew a 20-point lead against the 49ers earlier in 2011 and if they had any heart they wouldn’t have let that happen.

Alex Smith was a good quarterback in 2011 but no need to put him on any pedestal because his conference title game performance showed us he’s not ready for the big game. When the Eagles offense is clicking on all cylinders they can outscore the Giants and 49ers offense on any given Sunday. I will say the 49ers and Giants are ahead of the Eagles on the defensive side of the ball.

They clearly have a much better group of linebackers which the Eagles need to address in the off season in order to be on par with these teams. Both of these teams though are not the class of the NFC going forward. Green Bay and New Orleans both were caught on bad days during this year’s postseason and should have been playing in this game yesterday.

Green Bay and New Orleans were outstanding all season long and showed a much higher level of play during the majority of the season than the 49ers and Giants ever did and those are the teams the Eagles need to focus on catching not NY or San Francisco.

The bottom line is all 4 teams that played on championship Sunday were better coached than the Eagles ever were in 2011. Jim Harbaugh, a first year NFL head coach had all 3 timeouts left at the end of the game. It didn’t help the outcome for the 49ers but Harbaugh did something Andy Reid hasn’t been able to do in 13 seasons as an NFL head coach; manage the clock.

John Harbaugh clearly is a coach on the rise and his team believes in anything he says right now. Tom Coughlin doesn’t have the winning percentage or playoff appearances that Andy Reid has but he finds a way to win when he’s on the hot seat year after year and is on the door step of his second Superbowl title with the Giants.

Bill Belichick is nothing short of a mastermind and will continue to win as long as he wants to coach. These four coaches are selling a message to their teams that Reid can not right now and might never be able to in Philadelphia. The coordinators are on the same page with the head coach and the players and it’s that cohesiveness among these four teams that got them to this point this year.

Talent wise the Eagles in 2011 were right there with all of them but it’s the intangibles that prevented the Eagles from ever getting to that point. They also had a little bit of luck which is what good teams get and the Eagles had no luck what so ever in 2011.

Lucky for all of us in Philadelphia we get to watch our two favorite cities New York and Boston do battle for the Lombardi trophy. Not even 24 hours after the conclusion of championship Sunday NFL network is airing the replay of Superbowl 42. Hope everyone has a bucket nearby because a lot of us will have the urge to vomit over the next two weeks.

John Stratis

A lifelong Philadelphia sports fan always looking to share his opinion about the greatest sports town in the world. Follow me on twitter @JohnStratis

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  • When you look at the Health and Injury situation of the Eagles in 2011, they had to be one of the most fortunate teams in the NFL all season long..
    Yes, Vick and Maclin missed a couple of Games, Tapp and Parker missed a couple of games too but when you look at the Eagles IR list in comparison to other teams, it’s quite a small list
    #1) DT Dixon after Week #4
    #2) LB M Fokou after Week #10
    #3) WR S Smith after Week #12
    #4) ST/S C Anderson after Week #12
    #5) Safety K Coleman after Week #14

    All are rotational players and when you look around the NFL, most teams
    had 10-12-14 Players on IR’s, including many Starters..This good fortune of staying relatively healthy is very unlikely to occur again for the Eagles
    and definitely a missed opportunity …

  • Say what you want about the Giants and Patriots, what their Owners are doing is equating to Super Bowl appearances and Championships we can only dream about. If Mara/Tisch need to keep Coughlin on the hot-seat for him to overachieve as the Head Coach then that only goes to show how much their team means to them as fans of the Giants. Kraft in New England was a fan and season ticket holder (with his buddy Jeffrey Lurie) before the Owner of the Franchise and watched first hand what needed fixing in order to win Championships (6 AFC titles and 3 Super Bowls). These are people who have something other then profits motivating their decisions.

    What the Eagles need is a change from the top down, get rid of this holier-then-thou attitude and replace it with someone who covets titles above how much they made that season.

  • I have run the “Paulman Simulated Game Scenario” of the Eagles vs the top 8 Teams in the NFL and came up with the following results when playing 10 times against each opponent

    Eagles vs Pats – (Pats win 8 of out 10 Games due to better Coaching)
    Eagles vs Giants – (Giants win 6 out of 10 Games due to familiarity)
    Eagles vs 49ers – (49ers won 7 ouf of 10 Games due to physicality)
    Eagles vs Ravens – (Ravens won 7 out of 10 Games due to physicality)

    Then
    Eagles vs Packers (Packers win 8 out of 10 Games)
    Eagles vs NO Saints (Saints win 7 out of 10 Games)
    Eagles vs Texans (Texans win 7 out of 10 Games with their Running game)
    Eagles vs Broncos (Boncos win 6 out of 10 Games)

    Then
    Eagles vs Steelers (Steelers win 7 out of 10 due to Physicality)
    Eagles vs Bengals (Bengals split 5-5 versus the Eagles)
    Eagles vs Lions (Lions win 6 of 10 Games due to physicality)
    Eagles vs Falcons (Falcons split 5-5 with the Eagles)

  • Pick the Braves braniac…..that only entertained you.

    They need to chase the Pack and Saints,we’ll always stack up gainst the Giants as longs as we have Jax and Mccoy,good point bro.

    Niners are one injury from missing the p-offs next year.Good story.

  • I expect the Lions,Seahawks and Panthers all to improve and contend for WIld-Card Spots in 2012
    The 49ers have some Free-Agents to resign and need a couple more WR’s
    but won’t be sneaking up on anyone next Season
    I think the Packers may take a step back (and could lose some big Free-Agents and many from their Coaching Staff)
    Vikings,TB Bucs and Rams will all be rebuilding with new Coaches
    Eagles,Redskins,Cowboys,Falcons,Bears,Cardinals will all be in the 2nd Tier Group of teams and will most likely be 7-8-9 Win Teams at best..maybe one of these 2nd Tier gets hot late in the Season and gets on a roll..

  • Seahawks dont have a qb.

    Lions…dangerous team after FA.

    Panthers….2 years away from any p-offs win with that defense.

    Redskins-joke…Bears-old oline and need a reciever..Cards-joke(i know we lost to them,who cares..were talking about next year) Falcs-great core…they need to get over that hump but are with Detroit i think….Cowboys-who cares…

    Eagles….improve with 3 more wins and get in the dance will ya!!

  • Seahawks sign Kyle Orton, get their OL Back and a healthy WR Rice and contend for the NFC West Division

    Lions pick-up CB A Samuel & Safety M Griffin and Resign LB Tullock
    They get a full off-season and healthy DT Nick Fairley and RB’s T Best and Mike LEshoure who missed all of 2011

    Panthers Draft on the Defensive but have big time needs at DT,DE,CB and Safety, Cam Newton even plays some MLB for them next year as the the “Camameter” reaches a feverish pitch…The also SIgn WR Vince Jackson to go with Steve Smith…

    Redskins Draft QB Ryan Tannehill who contributes very little in his Rookie Season..

  • As long as they sign Kyle Orton. That’ll change everything.

  • this is pathetic, how stack up in some fantasy pool, in reality, where it matters, eagles don’t stack up at all, time to move on, Sixers and flyers more interesting than this, pitchers and catchers soon

  • Not to change the Subject,
    But it is Senior Week down in Mobile,Alabama where some Top Prospects are working out to prepare for this weeks game..
    The Coaching staffs from the Vikings and Redskins this Season for each Side
    Players with very good 1st Workouts and Drills are as follows

    QB- Keith Cousins (Michigan State)
    QB – Russel WIlson (WIsonconsin)
    WR – Brian Quick (Appalachian State -my hometown school at 6-4 225lbs)
    WR – MArvin Jones (California 6-2 200lbs)
    WR – Marvin McNutt (Iowa 6-2 215lbs)

    MLB – Bobby Wagner from Utah State 6-0 240lbs)
    DT – Mike Martin (Michgan 6-1 315lbs) …

  • Orton is a free-agent and of course wants a chance to be a Starter..
    With Cassell coming back from Injury who kows how well he bounces back.. Cassell could be the odd-man out and maybe head to Seattle to reunite with his former College Coach at USC, in Pete Carroll who recruited him though he never started a game in COllege for him
    Chad Henne is another QB who is a Free-Agent who probably needs a change of Scenery, look for hte DOlphins to pursue Packers Back-up Matt Flynn with New HC Joe Philbin coming from the Packer and having a good working relationship and Flynn knowing his system he wants to implement very well… Lots of moving parts come Free-Agency as these Coachign Staffs get filled out around the NFL..

    Ravens DC Chuck Pagano interviews with Colts for the HC Spot fyi..

  • Paulman good stuff as always. And I agree the Eagles are “at best” one of those 2nd teir teams. Reid wont make it to Thanksgiving

  • *********REPORT**********

    John Clayton is reporting that the Eagles intend on using the franchise tag on Desean Jackson this upcoming your in hopes of signing him to a long term deal.. This is good news because the team would not be the same without him, he provides this team with a edge… And i dont think the eagles are in a position to move on from him.. When desean isnt out there this offense is average at best… I expect a huge huge breakout year from Jackson, and im sure heshearing all the comparisons to victor cruz and want to reestablish himself as the best more electrifying 6ft and under reciever in the league if not the most electrifying out of all.. IMO i still pick desean over dude but Cruz is ballin right now…

  • Great news to hear concerning Desean, hopefully He gets 1300yds and 10+ TD’s next season and gets a long term deal; it’s good to hear that “FO tight-wads” are finally ponying up the money for #10. Our team doesn’t stack up near the final 4. Our defense is kinda pitiful and our coaching is garbage. We need some new signal callers.

  • i am over the D-Jax infatuation.. He’s a good player and will make a few great plays a Season, no consistent enough, disappears in the Red-Zone and is a wuss on Specialt Teams anymore .. Let him walk.. To me he’s a Rotational Plays who is best utilized for about 30-35 Snaps a game where he’s giving it a 100% and can mae more plays… I wouldn’t have on the field once crossing the 25 Yard line for he’s can’t get open or catch the ball in traffic once in the Red-Zone so his speed is meaningless down on that part of the field..
    I really hope they “Franchise Tag” to only trade him.. I can see him going to the 49ers or the SD Chargers who will need a deep threat to replace Vince Jackson who stated that he would never play for GM Smith and the Chargers again…

  • Desean was eeeeeeee-lectrifying on punt returns this year. Remember that one? And then the other one. And of course….you know….the last one. Wow. On fire.

    The way he stepped up after being “disrespected” like half the other players in the league. Phenomenal. The way he led the Birds to 28th in punt return yrds this year….both total and average!! And FIRST in fair catches!!! Fantastic!!

    How could you NOT pay for production like that!!

    And then there’s the amazing WR stats…..23rd in yards! A SPACTUCULAR 4 touchdowns…I mean that tied him for 63rd with such superstars as Evan Moore, Doug Baldwin and Jake Ballard!! PAY DA MAN!! He takes the top off the Defense!!

    Never mind that in the past 23 games since being knocked out he’s been pulling in an average of 3.7 catches a game and has scored a grand total of 7 TDs over that 23 game span…..he was just saving himself for when he got his respects!

    What else would you want out of a number one guy?

    Look I wouldn’t mind if the birds brought him back (I guess) but I’ll believe they’ll actually be paying him that kind of a salary when I see it.

    More likely they’re bluffing trying to set up a trade.

  • All four coaches ran their RB ‘s 25 or more times…Andy’s last 3 playoff games averaged 13 rushes a game. i’ll repeat that….13 rushes a game…Andy Reid last 3 playoff games were losses
    2009 against Cardinals………..Westbrook 12 rushes Buckhulter 4 total (16)
    2010 Cowboys………..Westbrook 5 ru ,mcCoy 2 , Weaver 3 (10)
    2011 Packers mcCoy 12 Harrison 1 (13)

  • It is sad when the Giants Bradshaw runs more Sun (20) than all of Eagles RBs IN any of their last 5 playoff games

  • Great stats Tonto.. they gotta run the rock.. I said yesterday in a post that i would not mind if they drafted in the first round that kid Trent Richardson if they didnt go DT/LB in the first round because the need a bruiser back in there, similar to what the packers, giants, saints, pats all have… give trent and shady 15 carries each and this team in in the upper echelon of the league..

  • John Clayton also reported that Vincent Jackson is being franchised too… charger are trying to keep a guy that wants to walk so bad…

  • I know many want to believe that the Eagles are “right there” with the Giants but that would be faulty thinking. The Giants went 9-7 because they had a brutal schedule and tons of injuries. They are at least an eleven win team. More important they are built to win in the playoffs which we are not. It starts with the QB.
    Let’s compare. Vick is clearly better than Alex Smith, but clearly not in the same class with Brady or Manning. He is in Flacco’s neighborhood. There is nothing outside of a hot stretch last year for Vick that would indicate otherwise. He is no better than Joe Flacco and I don’t really care about his athleticism because it creates turnovers and injury as much as it creates big plays that dazzle us. So at QB we are tied for third within the Final Four.
    Shady is right there with Rice in terms of RBs. He needs to get more looks in the passing game and our coaches “need to do a better job” of getting him the ball in space. So Shady is a tie for best RB.
    The Giants WRs are better than ours by a wider margin than Eagle fans want to believe. They compare them in theory on paper. But on the field in reality there is quite a gap. Aside from Welker, we compare favorably with NE but Welker gives them the edge because we do not have anyone nearly as prolific. Someone on this team needs to become an 80 catch guy next year. I would put us third ahead of Baltimore and SF.
    TEs obviously goes to the Pats. And Vernon Davis is a beast. Third again ahead of NYG and Balt.
    O line is a tough call. I would put us ahead of Balt and NYG. Pats have Mankins in the same league as Peters. Waters was a PB, but Mathis was just as good as he was. I’ll take Herremans over their two OTs any day. But Kelce and Watkins are average right now. Niners have Staley and Iupati. I would put us a very slight first over these teams.
    Defense? Every team has better LBs. That goes without saying. Mayo and Boley are both PB caliber players. Bowman and Willis are beasts for SF. We have three guys that wouldn’t start on almost any other NFL team. So rank is a DISTANT fifth.
    D line. The Giants are better. Lets get that out of the way. Baltimore is better with Ngata and Suggs essentially a DE in disguise. The Smith brothers in SF. Yeah, better. And we do not have anyone on our team as dominant as Wilfork when he is healthy and on his game. So I put us fourth. Yeah, 50 sacks and all. Our D line is average against the run and wears down late in games due to lack of size (where is that pass rush in the fourth quarter??) so fourth.
    On paper our corners would top the list, but only fantasy football is played on paper. I still put us barely over the Giants but not the Niners. So second.
    Safeties? Well the Niners safeties are over rated, but still better than ours. Giants and Ravens blow us away. I can’t imagine NE is worse because few teams are so I’ll say tied for fourth.
    STs? Our punter is weak and our kicker is average. SF has two APs and Giants have much better punter and comparable PK. Both have much better return men in Thomas and Ginn. Pats have better kickers but weak KR as well. Edelman is decent PR and D Jack did nothing this year. Once again I don’t care about theories on paper about how good D Jack is. Koch is a very good punter. We would be last again in this category.
    Coaching. Do I really need to say it??

  • Totno,
    2008 Eagles vs Arizona Trailing 4-6 at Half (Running game out the WIndow)
    2009 Eagles vs Cowboys Tailing 27-7 at Half (Running game out the Window)
    2010 Eagles vs Packers Trailing 21-3 mid-3rd Quarter (Running game out the Window)

    I agree Coach AR needs to run the ball more,but in the Eagles last 3 Playoffs games, the Eagles Defense and Defensive Caoching was soo bad in the 1st half of these games that the Eagles only chance was to pass, pass, pass which didn’t work either and all 3 of these games were essentially over by the 3rd Quarter even though the Eagles got some points in garbage time in the games versus the Cardinals and Packers.. But Eagles did not deserve to won any of their last 3 Playoff Games in my Opinion and if I was Owner Lurie, I would have weighed this fact heavier and should have been a determining facaotr of removing Coach AR now .. … .

  • To JH,
    Paulman stepping out on a limb and calling a trade between the Chargers and Eagles
    Eagles Send D-Jax & OT W Justice to the Chargers for V-Jax and 4th Round PIck….
    Remember you heard it here first..

  • D-Jax as Punt Returner..
    Everyone needs to check D-Jax Punt Return Stats for 2010 also, Take the 1 Miracle Return versus the Giants away to win the game, and Stats suck ,
    he did very little else in 2010 as far as the Puint Return game goes

  • Pauly – give #10 a chance to redeem himself before kicking him to the curb so quick buddy. He may finally be getting some real money after being drafted and will have a reason to kick arse. I believe desean plays like a top 10 wideout this year. Vinnie, go suck a duck you interior sphincter.

  • DeSean’s potential is capped… he doesnt have the desire or drive to be GREAT!

    He will never catch more than 75 balls in a season or be a #1 WR. Victor Cruz has the all around game. He blocks, runs great routes, goes across the middle and can be you after the catch or deep….
    The Eagles should use that money on the defensive side… DJAX is not worth it.

  • Slow down their Tonto….

    The Giants were also able to run an absurd 90 offensive plays in the game. The Giants Called 65 passes and 25 rushes. 72% of the time was a called pass.

    Rocko…that’s usually the way it goes. Players almost ALAWYS perform better after getting paid the big contract. Happens all the time. I cannot tell you how often I have seen players just go off the hook after they get paid.

    Never before have we seen players play well before the contract and then disappear after the contract. Never. Always better after the $$. Especially selfish showboats like Desean. That’s what you’ve seen too right? I mean, how could anyone miss that? I couldn’t think of one guy who’s gone missing after he got his contract. None whatsoever.

    BTW.

    If Desean’s being “disrespected” by the FO caused his shit ass numbers this year…..what exactly caused them in the 2nd half of 2010? 8 games…28 catches (3.5 a game) …3 tds….(and if you remove the one 210 game vs Dallas last year….his numbers become dreadful) a solid 2 catches for 47 in the playoff game vs GB……….

    Sphincterize those numbers….

  • But I totally see how your knowledge of interior sphincters translates into your projections of Desean’s future accomplishments.

    ” I believe desean plays like a top 10 wideout this year.” says our resident proctologist.

    Because of course:
    2009 38th in catches, 12th in yrds and 10th in tds
    2010 71st in catches, 12th in yards and 29th in tds
    2011 47th in catches, 23rd in yrds, 63rd in tds

    has got TOP 10 written all over it!

  • Eagles picked-up WR/Returnman Mardy Gilyard, who should be able to put up similar #’s and production as D-Jax did for about 1/8th the Salary.Then Draft a Big WR like Brian Quick from Applachian State in the 3rd Round and between Quick and Gilyard, they will have a younger, hungrier and more physical all around WR and Return Corps….

  • Paulman, Forget all that talk about the Health n injury situatuion, read below what the real situation is, this is all about the D and this is why were sitting home and the Giants are in the SB, read

    Compare the drafts of the New York Giants and Eagles in defensive personnel since 2003, and the quality of talent is lopsided in favor of the G-Men.

    The Giants’ last nine drafts have produced names like Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Corey Webster, Mathias Kiwanuka, Aaron Ross, Kenny Phillips, Jason Pierre-Paul, Prince Amukamara and Greg Jones. That’s not even including players on injured reserve this season who were expected to either start or make significant contributions like Marvin Austin, Terrell Thomas, Jonathan Goff and Clint Sintim. They are all still property of the Giants.

    The Eagles’ last seven drafts have included the likes of Jerome McDougle, Jamaal Green, Matt Ware, J.R. Reed, Mike Patterson, Trent Cole, Sean Considine, Brodrick Bunkley, Chris Gocong, Omar Gaither, Victor Abiamiri, Stewart Bradley, C.J. Gaddis, Trevor Laws, Quintin Demps, Jack Ikegwuonu, Joe Mays and Moise Fokou.

    The only impact player has been Cole, while Patterson has been a decent player. Abiamiri has missed more games than he’s played since being drafted in 2007 and the rest are gone.

    The Birds’ drafts of 2010 and 2011 produced Brandon Graham, Nate Allen, Daniel Teo-Nesheim, Trevard Lindley, Ricky Sapp, Jamar Chaney, Jeff Owens, Kurt Coleman, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Curtis Marsh, Casey Mathews, Brian Rolle Greg Lloyd.

    The jury is still out on the majority of that group, but clearly the Eagles have missed more than they have hit on defense over that time frame.

    The Eagles’ brain trust has gotten it wrong for so long it has to get it right sometime doesn’t it? I mean they can’t do any worse than they’ve already done … can they?

  • Paul, not gonna happen bro.. that trade would never ever happen.. trade a 25 year old along with depth on the oline for vincent jackson and a 4th? Noway, check the ages too because that plays a huge part in decisions. Desean is 25 Vincent jackson is 30, huge difference in football years.. I like VJ but not that much to trade desean and oline depth for him… speaking of the oline a real priority this off season is for the birds to resign Evan Mathis, what a year he had, he really excelled in mudds system..

  • Woa Woa Woa Paulman, Mardy Gilyard. “Great Bearcat” but please pump the breaks for a minute. Mardy Gilyard hasn’t proven anything in the NFL. He wasn’t even playing this past year. He stated he was busy fishing when the Eagles contacted his agent during the season to discuss his services being acquired. If he could give you anything comparable to what DJax can in the return game he would have been on a roster. I don’t know why people under value Desean’s ability and what he’s brought to this Eagles team. Shark memories are very short and apparently so are some of ours in Eagles nation. Remember the long sufferring we endured with those stiff wideouts and return men Andy Reid and ray Rhodes trotted through here for year after year. It’s not going to be that easy to replace his skill set mark my words. For everyone who wants VJax, he was crying out there in S.D. about his contract and has issues off the field. As soon as he meses up here thosesame people who covet him will be ready to toss him out of the nest. Philadelphia Eagles fans, never happy with a good thing!!! Trust, the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.!!!

  • Jott, desean has capped? He doesnt have the desire to be great? Huh? Where does this come from? Off one bad year? Off him not being productive in special teams? Listen the kid is effective every game he plays, hes the one that opens everything up for that offense, hes being franchised and will remain on this team, they cant afford to lose him… who in this league can we get that resembles the effect he has on this team, not just the offense? Not anyone i can think of…

  • been a season ticket holder since kotites 1st year . this year is about as blah as it has ever been . will someone ( other than navy ) tell me i have something to be excited about !

  • And Paul teams dont even barely kick to desean when hes back there for punt returns… Idk why you guys are making such a big deal about this, teams are fearful of him back there because when he gets the ball its Electric…

  • Hang in there Nev856,
    The 2012 Eagles Cheerleadeing Squad will have new Uniforms and larger Pom/Poms if you know what I mean…

  • Good points Eaglehaslanded, i share the same feelings… guys are beginning to discredit Desean and his abilities and its not right.. he had a bad year yes but to say hes not good hes capped hes a bum hes overrated cruz is better after one year is absurd…

  • Good Stuff Andrew P
    Giants GM Jerry Reese is an excellent Draft Evaluator and it light years ahead of putting a Championship Roster together than GM Roseman/AR are…
    You can add Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome Jr to the list of excellent GM’s too

  • D-Ajx has had a bad 1 1/2 in my opinion.. Look at his Numbers and Stats over his last 25 games or so.. He will not get bigger or faster, if anything, he doesn’t play with that reckless abadoned that he did his Rookie Year for fear of getting injured…He’s had 2 Concussions and couple of tweeks to his Ankles and hopefully he never injures his knee for it would be all over if he lost his explosion..
    He’s a good player, but is not an everydown top #1 or #2 WR in my book.. He;’s more of a #3 WR and is best utilized when you have 40-50-70 yeards of field to work with and is non-existent in the Red-Zone..

  • What guys are forgetting is what he provides that doesnt seem to show up on the stat sheet…He opens everything upfor guys like maclin and maccoy and avant and celek…the issue is that andy has been using desean as a decoy too much, a player like desean you gotta get him involved right away and you ll have his attention all game long.. stop with all the measurables bc it doesnt apply to a player like desean. You can measure the hear and determination he has to succeed.. he loves to play and you dont want a player like him against you… so stop discrediting him over 1 bad year, hes a probowl player and will definitely be one next year he just has to remain healthy…

  • does dj really want to be back ?
    lame duck coach and from what i am seeing a possible lame duck QB after next season !

  • Why does Desean have to score 10-15 tds in this offense a year to make some of you happy? Is this the Dolphins or something or the Cards where it Marshall/Fitz or bust? The guy has been up there with the best when it comes to yards since he came in the league if you want to look at stats only. However, when it comes to him you can’t just think stats tell the whole story…You think Vick was bad this year imagine him without Djax to throw to for a whole season.

    Paulman, do you think Reid has some fault in it when Djax seems to disappear in games? I do…I think Reid is one of the worst game managing coaches in the league. You would think he would put Djax all over the field in motion and so on but his doesn’t…Imagine if the Pats played Welker like they do Djax? Or if the Giants played Cruz that way? The coaches have those guys moving all over the place before the snap which makes them unstoppable.

    The report about the Birds franchising him is obviously no shock to me. I’ve been saying all along that the people that just think The FO would let a player who is 24 and prolly not even in his prime yet just walk free is a moron.

  • This is why most people should look outside of the Eagles spin concerning picks. Theywould make everyone believe Graham was rated over JPP in 2010 draft but looking at national mocks it’s clear JPP was the consensus

    look….http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/04/07/mock.draft.1/index.html

    Graham could not beat out Jaqua Parker…you thin Parker would still be here if JPP was taken?

    You think we would have spent all that money for Babin had the eagles chose right?

    We are damn joke.

  • Don’t worry..Juan and Roseman are at the Senior Bowl…We have absolutely nothing to worry about.

  • If you want more redzone TD’s how about you upgrade Avant’s position. I think you could easily get better in the slot for cheap…Look at what Plax did for the Jets in the redzone this year. Seriously, there is enough holes on this team right now to fix, the starting WRs are not one of them.

  • Pheags good incite…i mentioned back before the season started that we should have signed plax and it was a mistake that we didnt, look at all the redzone tds he had for the jets… we needed him more than they did… good thing Mccoy ran like he did this year, he saved us a few games..

  • Songs, priceless haha lol!!!

  • Only DJAX’s TD are down this year. So much for the bad year crap. What if we didn’t have him going deep all the time. What if we asked him to run comeback routes. Remember, the safeties are playing way back in the secondary. What if Vick played well this year, would his numbers be different. If I’m right Gilyard hasn’t shown the promise DeSean has in the NFL. He’s also fumble prone. Keep DeSean

  • The Pheags,
    The biggest issue with your Argument is that you still need an NFL QB to get the ball to your playmakers.. in this, QB Mike Vick is in the bottom half of the NFL if you go back over his last 20 games or so..

  • Word is that Raiders have hired DC Dennis ALlen from the Broncos to be their NExt HC..
    Also news from Miami is that new HC PHilbin will not retain Todd Bowles who Coacged the Dolphins Defense along with DC Mike Nolan before assuming the Interim Positoin of HC for the last few weeks of the Season.. Bowles is a very well liked Coach and maybe the Eagles can bring him up to assist Castillo

  • After addressing defense with our 1st pick hopefully ala safety barron or a middle lb we should trade into the late 1st round to nab alshon jefferies wr out of south carolina.

  • with the first pick in the 2012 draft the eagles select…. honetly guys…. we are in for a long one again on D. Les B did a GREAT piece on philly drafts on D. Its what many of us on here have been saying for a LONG time. Bottom line…..

    “But proof that Nnamdi Asomugha and Jason Babin were worth their millions is that they kept Trevard Lindley and Daniel Te’o-Nesheim off the field? This explanation is backward and illogical.”

    “Takeo Spikes, Darren Howard, Will Witherspoon, Ernie Sims, Sean Jones, Marlin Jackson, Ellis Hobbs, Jarrad Page – they all were brought in because McCoy, Considine, Gocong, Abiamiri, Demps, and Smith were not difference makers, or because the team passed on players who were”.

  • Stevo, im happy you brought this out for i mentioned this a few days ago.. the eagles purposely pass on guys in the draft .. With the way they do indepth evaluations there is no way they have missed on each and every draft pick besides a handful.. its mostly on the defensive side of the field if you notice… its as if they have a certain code that this organization follows or something.. I personally think it has always come down to the money and it has influenced there decision making process, like they would say “oh this guy will cost us too much money down the road so we ll pass on him or may say oh were good at that position”… theyve have plenty of opportunities to draft high caliber players but instead they draft guys that are servicable, mediocre, pretty much just bodies and this is unacceptable… Now they decided to go nuts in FA and expected to be handed a SB trophy, it doesnt work like that, you have to draft correctly or you will pay for it immediately or down the line, theyve been doing patch jobs for years, the most glaring position being Line backer, now its so glaring that all can see it including the entire league so this may be the year that they seriously address it… it takes them getting scorched for them to do something about a position… Think about when they were bullied in that nfc champ game against the panthers, the wrs were “thrashed” and the following season they did a patch job by bringing in Terrell Owens and they ended up in the SB, came here for one year then that was it, back to the same wr problems.. theyve done stuff like this for years… All the tape they watch and they cant see that the entire LB core was bad?..It goes deeper than that.. alot of it has to do with the money and there view of the cap, but now this organization sees that the fans are beyond disgusted and that they may begin losing money if this team doesnt improve fast so they may address LineBacker and DTackle and maybe even Safety in either FA and or in the draft.. it takes extreme circumstances for them to address a problem that has been evident for years..

  • John Clayton is a hack & looks like Tweety Bird with glasses. He is the biggest throw $#!t against the wall & see what sticks, dope that there is. He gets 8 out of 10 things wrong. Paulman’s crazy rumors, produce more reality than him. They ARE NOT going to franchise an overrated, one trick pony, malcontent, top 5 salary, whether it is one year or not! He’s gone! Get over it! Dwayne Bowe & Jeremy Maclin- 2012 starting WR’s. Asante Samuel is right behind him out the door. Good riddance! Don’t let the door hit you both in your arses, on the way out!

  • With the first round pick in the NFL draft the Eagles Pick Julio Castillo. What?

    He’s a 39 year old Mexican brick layer who Andy says have “a high motor”.

    “TIME’S YOUR’S”

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