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Eagles Season Will Come Down To Andy Reid And Michael Vick

Like it or not the greatness in the NFL is judged by a team’s performance in close games. In Philadelphia this is especially true.  The main reason the Eagles have been in the hunt but lack a Super Bowl ring throughout the Andy Reid era is directly related to the team’s performance in the close games.

In the past four seasons the Eagles are 7-18-1 in games decided by one score or less (includes playoffs). Based on Donovan McNabb’s post Eagles performance many Eagles fans would consider Michael Vick an upgrade to Donovan, however in close games nothing changed. In McNabb’s final two seasons as an Eagle he was 3-9-1 in games decided by one score or less, while Vick has gone 3-7 in  one score games he started and finished.
There are other variables such as poor performance from the defense, dropped passes, and fumbles that have lead to the Eagles one score game debacles, however, those same obstacles Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have over came to produce a winning record in crunch time.
In the last five seasons not one team which has one Super Bowl has had a starting quarterback with a losing record in close games. When Vick is compared to what Super Bowl winners have done in close games in the last two years, the numbers show Vick is an average NFL quarterback when it matters most.
Since the start of 2010 the win loss records of quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl in one score games is as follows, Rodgers:12-6 Manning:10-3 Roethlisberger:12-5 Brady: 9-5 Brees 9-6 even Jets backup quarterback Tim Tebow managed to go 8-2, while Vick was 3-7. Tebow may have had a better defense while in Denver, but the Eagles weapons on offense are far superior to Tebow’s.
The Eagles may have had their best draft since Andy Reid took over in 1999, and the team made the best possible effort to fill in the holes the that killed the team’s playoff hopes in 2011, but if a fan is to look at this team objectively, what did the team do the fix its 4th quarter issues that has plagued the team in recent history?
Personal wise was there much the team could do? Based on the combined numbers of both Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick in close games, is that the reflection of two quarterbacks who cannot win close games, or a coach who cannot manage a game down the stretch? Is the 2012 off-season going to be the second straight year in which fans are blinded by the national media wowing over personal moves and forget a team that cannot win a close game, will not win a Super Bowl?
Four of the Eagles first six games are against playoff teams from 2011. The Lions, Ravens, Giants, and Steelers combined to go 22-7 in close games (Includes playoffs). All four teams had winning records in close games. Is there one Eagles fan out there who thinks the Eagles are going to blow out any of those 4 teams in 2012?  All four games will be close and based on Michael Vick, and especially Andy Reid’s track record in one score games, isn’t it fair to say the Eagles will be lucky to be 3-3 after the first six games?
Eagles fans must look at the big picture before getting their hopes up for this team to win a division title let alone a Super Bowl in 2012. The team improved in some key areas, but at the end of the day how the quarterback and coach perform in close games will make or break the 2012 season.

Jerry Brennan

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jmt8251
jmt8251
May 16, 2012 3:09 am

You columnist want so bad for Andy and Mike to not succeed it makes me sick. It would be understandable if you had won a SB previous to Vick arriving, but now you want to blame every game on him. What a bunch of junk. As I recall last year we had a 10 point lead going into the 4th quarter of falcon’s game and the defense could not stop anyone. We had a 20-3 lead in the 49ers game and could not keep the lead. We had a lead in the Giants game (1st game) and lost the lead. If the defense had just held in one of these games. The Giants would not have been in the play-offs. But I guess Vick needs to play defense. It is on this whole team to play well, not just Vick and we already know you fools want Andy out of Philly. Actually philly does not deserve a SB, but this team does. I hate all you hacks that can’t support your team.

Monolith
Monolith
May 16, 2012 4:03 am

WOW!

I feel you JMt.

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 4:15 am

Although, I agree that the Eagles Season Will Come Down To Andy Reid And Michael Vick, NO DUH, OBVIOUSLY, you weren’t very clear on what losing / winning by one score means. Is it 7 pts, 6 pts, 3 pts, WHAT!? Be a little more clearer next time, when you attempt to try & write an article on things everyone knows already. Reid is in a lame duck, do or die, coaching year, Vick is sinking & swimming with Reid (SB or bust), & McFlubb, was an underachieving, choke artist, who never won us the Big one. Stop beating a dead horse, nobody gives a flaming pile of crap about McFlubb, anymore. He is a non-factor, non-story, & NO I DON’T WANT HIM AS VICK’S BACKUP, for all of the geniuses, who inevitably will try to tout that nauseating nonsense. Let’s get through OTA’s & pre-season, before you start saying the season is over already. JEESH, & I thought I was impatient & negative about the Birds. Jerry, with all do respect, you write some of the most head scratching, mind boggling, ill-timed, ill-advised, agenda laced articles, that I’ve ever seen. You have some goofy timing with your stuff, dude. I may rip the hell out of my teams, but I do it out my love for them & for them getting better, & the truths & problems I see in the way they’re run. You just have issues & agenda’s with certain people, & don’t hide it. Although I think Reid should have been fired when McFlubb was traded, I have nothing against him personally & give him all of the credit in the world for rebuilding us, from a $#!t team in the 90’s to a legit SB contender. McNabb arguably was/ is the best QB in our history, whether he was a choke or not. I agree about Vick though. He has always been an overrated, over-hyped, done-nothing loser, throughout his entire career. I highly doubt we ever win with him.

jakedog
jakedog
May 16, 2012 4:27 am

Dcar, show the same patience with the phils my friend, good times on the horizon, and I agree with the author, at the end of the day, it matters who is clutch , who has it, who you know will win it, you knew Eli would, Montana would, elway would, Vick ?……. This is a good article but speaking to a deaf audience

jakedog
jakedog
May 16, 2012 4:38 am

Ultimately, it comes down to the play of the quarterback, especially in this era of pass happy football, make all the excuses you want, blame the defense, say all the cliches, it’s a team game, but if Eli manning, Joe Montana , Steve young, name all the other quarterbacks who lead their team to victory on the last drive, after all else faltered, when the defense gave out, when the coach blundered, when the wideout dropped the ball, they all said , no, put it on me, I am the one, I will lead to victory, and you knew they would.

Do we have this quarterback with Michael Vick?

daggolden
daggolden
May 16, 2012 6:04 am

Jakedog all them teams you mention their defense also made plays. You forget that even though Eli Manning made plays at times. in 7 games he didnt hence the 9-7 record. His friggin defense shut down the Patriots, Packers and Falcons, lets not get it twisted. Yes he still made plays but because of his defense he could take chances, because of his defense he only had to make a few plays instead of alot of plays. Against the 49ers he made alot of plays, I will give him that. But having a competent defense can only help dont ya think? Im not saying Eli doesnt deserve his due(which he does) but the defense helps ALOT.

paulman
paulman
May 16, 2012 7:39 am

The excuses end in 2012, it’s time to strap it on and play ball..
from Coach AR & MM and Castillo to the star name players like Vick, D-Jax,Asmo, T Cole, etc,etc… It’s a players game and the Eagles best players must step up collectively if they are to compete for a Championship.. End of Story..

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 16, 2012 9:35 am

LOL….JMT, Dag, Paulman and even DCAR (excluding his Vick comments)…that was real talk right there! you can tell who are knowledgeable fans and who aren’t…

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 9:55 am

This team was 8-8 last year, and didn’t make the playoffs…who have not won a playoff game since the 2008-09 season……why wouldn’t the head coach be under the gun to have a successful season?
Nobody is saying it is SB or you’re fired, but after 14 years of being here and the state that the team has been in for the past 4-5 years, I would bet that even Andy Reid would agree that this is as important year for his as he has had during his time in Philly.
As far as Vick, just as any star QB on an underperforming team, he will get alot of focus. You think that Flacco isn’t hearing the same things in Baltimore? Well he is, and so are many other QB’s on non-playoff teams, so there is really no story here, just stating the obvious.

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 10:11 am

Here we go again with these articles about Vick and Reid, they have to win the Superbowl or they have to go LOL that’s a bunch of bull. It takes more than Vick and Reid to win games, it actually takes the entire team. But for some reason you folks want to lay the all the responsibility on just one member of the team and forget about all the other players, you want to lay the responsibility of one coach instead of all the coaches. Its a team game not a Reid or Vick game, the entire team will have to step up. Dropping balls, penalties, fumbles, the defense giving up leads etc., were not all done by Vick, none were done by Reid. It really sounds like a lot of you don’t like Reid or Vick, so that is where you lay the blame, instead of laying the blame where it should be, which is on all of the players, not just the ones you don’t like. Vick is going into his second year as a starter (first year with full offseason programs) and its a must for him. I have said this before and I will say it again, I don’t think there is any qb out there right now, who could be out of the league for three years and have the comeback Vick has had, no one expected him to have a comeback at all let alone be a starter. Everyone wants to talk about the great year Shady had, and he did have a great year, but how the hell do you think he got the ball?

Bottom line for the most part some of you folks including the author of these articles are just whiners, you will complain about anything, the season hasn’t even started but most of you have, with your complaining. Maybe the Eagles should have kept Kevin Kolb, I guess had that happened you would be saying the Eagles were rebuilding. Give the season a chance to start before you do, don’t be afraid you won’t have anything to whine about, I’m sure you’ll find something, even if they win the Superbowl, you’ll find something to whine about.

, you talk out of both sides of your mouth, you support the team in one breath and in that same breath you tear down the QB, Vick is a loser, never won anything, I guess going to the probowl 4 times is nothing, beating, GB in GB (almost by himself) is nothing, winning Comeback player of the year is nothing, not to mention all the other awards he recieved in 2010 is nothing, but with all of that in your mind he’s a loser………………..yeah right.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
May 16, 2012 10:22 am

peace – well said – its a team game – all 53 players and the enitre coaching staff should feel like thier jobs are on the line –

I was surprised when the author discussed this line:

There are other variables such as poor performance from the defense, dropped passes, and fumbles that have lead to the Eagles one score game debacles, however, those same obstacles Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have over came to produce a winning record in crunch time.

really – if I remember right there were two VERY key plays int he SB last year – on one, Wes welker broke free and Brady threw just slightly behind him – but in my opinion – Wes Welker catches that ball 99 out of 100 times – this one he didn’t….

ELi Manning launches a nive throw down the sideline, very close to the sideline where MAnningham makes a sweet catch (how many times have you seen that – Big BEn in the back corner – Tyree on the helmet)

so Eli is better then Tom becuase MArio caught the ball??? No its a team game – the Giants beat the PAts because the giants caught the ball… TEAM game..

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 10:24 am

@peace….”Everyone wants to talk about the great year Shady had, and he did have a great year, but how the hell do you think he got the ball?”

Are you telling me that you want people to recognize that Vick made good handoffs? Classic….LOL….that is really funny.

QB’s in the NFL are always faced with criticism….MV has already stated that he knows that he needs to cut down on the turnovers from last year, and play in a style that will keep him healthy. Most fans on here recognize that the play of the OL has a great effect on both of those things, and that early in last season the OL had yet to gel. Yes it is a team game, but QBs always get more credit for wins and too much blame for loses…that is a fact, even if it may not always be fair.

Hand-off’s….we are talking ’bout Hand-offs …not passes…Hand-off’s

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 10:41 am

, I know where you’re going with your response, but hey it ain’t working. My comment wasn’t just about Vick, however that is all you seem to take from it. Classic….LOL that is really funny………..try again.

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 10:45 am

, thank you, my point exactly.

lionsden
lionsden
May 16, 2012 10:46 am

I can’t talk about this topic anymore, personally I think GCOBB is low on site hits so they’ll drudge up any Mike Vick/Andy Reid criticism article to get more visitors. I don’t care what stats any author or poster lists regarding Reid and Vick because I’ve still got both of their backs. And while quite is kept, I know many of the people on this site (including the authors) want this team to fail mainly because Vick is QB and partially because Reid is HC. Keep hating and being negative that’s fine with me. I honestly think GCOBB is one of the most negative Eagles “Fan” sites on the net. I rarely see anything positive posted about this team or its leadership and it’s depressing. The QB sucks, the coach stinks, the new LB is too short, yada yada yada. I want the Eagles to win a SB just as bad as any fan so that I can got to the rest of the division fans and say “how ya like me now bitches!!!” You guys can be negative all you want but there are many positives to look forward to for next season. Instead of letting the media dictate how you feel about this team and its leadership go back and watch the games for yourselves. NFL rewind costs $20 for a month and you can watch all the games from 2009 to the present.

@greenfan… “Hand-off’s….we are talking ’bout Hand-offs …not passes…Hand-off’s” That was hilarious!!!

I’m excited about 2012 and can’t wait! FLY EAGLES FLY da dada dada da da……

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 10:54 am

peace, the truth, isn’t talking out both sides of my mouth. Pro bowls don’t mean $#!T! It’s a popularity contest. Give me a freaking break. He has NEVER won anything & never has risen his teams, anywhere of significance in the playoffs. He won 2 wildcard games, with ZERO, of any kind of Champions. Don’t get me wrong, I respect his talent, but he is nothing but a product of ESPN hype & a Madden video game character. He never has done squat. Don’t let your man-love for him, cloud your judgement. Remember I’m not Vinnie & my judgement isn’t clouded, nor biased & I don’t hate the man. Just stating the facts, bruh.

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 10:56 am

, you could not have said that better. You’re right GCOBB is the most negative site as it relates to the Eagles. GCOBB for some reason forgets he played with the Eagles as well, they didn’t win a Superbowl when he played, (I wonder why) but yet he is always critical of the players and coaches, because of their lack of winning the big one. This site uses the names Michael Vick and Andy Reid to get readers and haters, they know without using those names they will get neither.

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 11:02 am

so why are you on here peace…if it is so bad??…. masochist?

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 11:04 am

, if you were stating facts you wouldn’t have called the man a loser, in addition to saying he hasn’t won anything. Fact is had the defense and other players stepped up more than likely the Eagles would have made the playoffs, that’s a fact. Don’t let your man-hate for him cloud your judgement. Remember I wasn’t talking about one player I was talking about the entire team. It takes a team, that’s another fact, bruh.

paulman
paulman
May 16, 2012 11:08 am

On a side note,
Can we make sure that no articles ever mention Tim Tebow, Thank you…

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 11:08 am

, I’m here because I want to be, I’m here because just like you I have a right to my opinion whether you like it or not….Granted I’m not here on every article, everyday like you, I just don’t have that kind of time, however when I want to be here I will do that………Alright

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 11:17 am

You sound like my 17 year old daughter peace…….cause I want to, blah, blah, blah.

If it is as bad as you say, delete the link. We can all certainly get by without having to read a complaint from peaceful1.

My take on this site is that the articles are so-so…I tend to get my information from other sites…but the comments and talk are usually full of information and always from an eagles fan perspective…not necessarily a “step-ford” eagles fan, but from different types of fans who have different opinions…this is certainly not a cheerleaders site, but a site full of fans who want the best for the team.

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 11:27 am

, I didn’t take time to read your entire comment the first sentence was enough for me. I hope your 17 year old daughter doesn’t whine as much as you.

jbird
jbird
May 16, 2012 11:29 am

The problem is, and always has been, the defense. The defense has never been good enough. AR is a poor clock manager and McNabb/Vick are not clutch performers, but the defense has been more to blame for the Eagles failures.

jmt8251
jmt8251
May 16, 2012 11:38 am

Since when do you and your buddies become the freedom of speech police. He or she has a right to that opinion. You negative people are not real Eagles fans. Whoever the Jeremy Brennan is looks like he went through Philly.com and copied and past some of Les Bowen and Jeff McLane’s articles. I would like to know what SB has philly one in the past to compare what Reid and Vick are doing or will do this year? I would like to know what other coach has taken the Eagles to a SB for you losers to come on here and attack Reid, Vick and any fan who has a positive outlook on anything the Eagles are doing to get better? If you are a Giant fan stop hiding in the closet pretending to be a Eagles fan with all this negative mess. This team has as much chance as any to win a SB. I am so glad the players do not listen to this garbage. Hell they get more support on the road than they do at home. So why don’t you negative nellies become a Cowgirl fan, midget fan or even a deadskin fan. One thing for sure you sure as hell are not coaches or players and neither is Jeremy Brennan. You would think they would come up with more orginial things to right. Like evaluating the schedule. The national ,media sees the Eagles as the front runners but of course these loser mentality local yocals can’t see at all. When the Eagles do win the SB, these nuts will say it is because somebody had a down year. This is the worse media I have ever seen in my life and so called fans to. I don’t give a hoot what you say about me you losers. I am a Eagles fan and whatever they do I will root for them. That is what REAL fans do. The season has not even begun and they sick fools are still stuck in the past. @Peac112 say what you want F these losers with their loser mentality, Last time I checked it is a team game, not a one man game ask all those qbs up there that you put on this article Big Ben, Brees, Rogers Tebow SMH. did any of them win the SB last year. STFU and wait until the season is over before you talk about the Eagles, we all know if you had your wish Kolb would still be here running backwards and you would not have a problem because he is a golden boy. It would be everyone else fault if the Eagles did not win but Kolb. Come out of the closet and tell the truth. You want a white qb. Well you had them in the past, where is your SB ring?

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 11:39 am

peace, maybe the word loser, was kind of harsh, but what would you call someone who has constantly won nothing, failed to raise/ lead his teams to greatness, nor the next level, has done nothing to correct his faults, & is always hurt? STUBBORN, OVERRATED, OVERHYPED, NOT A GOOD QB, NOT A CHAMPION? Maybe those are better words for him. BTW, I don’t hate anyone. Alot of you guys use that word HATE a little too loosely on here. Just because some of us aren’t pom- pom waving step-fords, & choose to tell it like it is, & you don’t like it, doesn’t give anyone the right to falsely label us as haters. If I was a hater, I wouldn’t give a f^#@ about any of them. But you rock-heads can’t comprehend that, or look/ see without wearing your rose colored glasses. Remember, nobody is exempt to criticisms, or being ripped, even if they are my beloved home teams.

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 11:52 am

WTF are you talking about jmt?

I asked peace why would he be on here if the site was so terrible, and now I am infringing on his 1st amendment right to free speech? You are reaching jmt.

Also, you accuse me of being racists and wanting a white qb. Where do you see any coment that I have EVER made regarding my desire for a white qb. I can answer that….you won’t fine that, because it isn’t true and such a comment does not exist. If you actually read my comments in this string, you will see that I have no issue with MV, and stated that many of his early season turnovers could be attributed to lack of continuity of the OL. But instead you try and marginalize my comments by throwing out an un-warranted race card. Pathetic.

I said it above and I will say it again, qb’s in the NFL are ALL the target of great praise and great criticism….not all deserved, but they all pretty much understand that it comes with the territory.

paulman
paulman
May 16, 2012 11:53 am

I think we can agree that we are all Eagle fans and want them to win a Championship and I know I can be overly critical, negative and sometimes just plain immature and stupid with some of my comments.. I do have a tendancy to over-analyze things which at times as a Fan, can be informative,funny,or plain stupid, but as a Life-long Fan since the early 70’s I will call them as I see them… I do try to stay away from the petty-name calling and am making a conscious effort to toning down the negativity…
I also think many of us can agree that this off-season has been a very good one this far with smart deliberate signing of key players, an excellent Draft (on paper) and a level of a worman-like attitude of Coach AR and his entire Staff.. Do they Eagles have Pro-bowlers at every position and have no holes to improve, of course they don’t and I am not sure any team in the NFL can say they are 100% stacked at every position on their teams.. There does come a time with the younger players who were Drafted in 2009.2010,2011 have to step up and play their roles that they were Drafted and groomed to do.. This Team has a calm,confident feel and look about it with an infusion of smart, energetic and some very talented players.. I believe the Coaching Staff from Top to Bottom is much improved and finally on the same page as a Coachign Staff so the foundation is built, now it’s time to go out and play some football and may the best players win th starting positons and make the squad.. This is the most i’ve been excited to see the Eagles start Camp in I can’t tell you how long… last year was an freak year with the hold-out, craxy free-agent signings and an almost new Coaching staff and I never fot the feeling that everyone from GM Roseman, to Coach AR and his staff were on the same page for wahtever reason.. I am expecting big things from this Eagles 2012 Team…

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 11:53 am

jmt, first off learn your punctuation. 2nd, if you read my initial post, I ripped Jerry for this $#!T article. 3rd, I can’t stand any other teams, but my local 4. 4th, Racist much? 5th, I’m half Black, so your race card is ignorant & a moot point, Kolb blows. 6th, you are telling us not to be freedom of speech police, but hypocritically did the same as green. Finally, read my prior post for enlightenment.

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 11:59 am

, when I did I say this site was terrible, fact is greenfan I never used the word terrible at all. Get your facts straight.

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 12:01 pm

green, the problem on here is there are too many ignorant, tools on here that lack reading comhension, common sense, & understanding of what they are reading, so they make $#!t up with their hidden agendas, & racism, because someone rips their false heros. Where race factors into any of this is, I don’t know? It’s pathetic ignorance, & laughable.

jbird
jbird
May 16, 2012 12:02 pm

DCar…good points. The people who act like you slapped their mom when you criticize the Eagles are very annoying. Everyone has the right to their opinion and people need to stop taking things so personally.
A lot of people on here get real emotional about Vick because they somehow feel the criticism is racial in nature. They feel this strong kindred with Vick as a regular AA guy that does regular AA things and makes regular AA mistakes. They feel like he is one of them and not some typical pampered over-paid athlete who gets money and looks down his nose at other AAs. Thats how they perceive Donovan. He is not “down.” But Vick is just a regular guy and they support him blindly and faithfully. He seems to represent something some of us do not really understand.

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 12:04 pm

@ peace….you said:

“You’re right GCOBB is the most negative site as it relates to the Eagles.”

sounds pretty terrible to me.

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 12:05 pm

Couldn’t agree more with your last statement DCar. Agree.

jmt8251
jmt8251
May 16, 2012 12:11 pm

Again I will say it where is your SB ring from your previous team, pre Reid? Reid has a SB ring in case you did not know. You haters crawl from under rocks as soon as you see Vick/Reids names. The hack who wrote this garbage knows it that is why they write this negative mess just for people like .

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 12:13 pm

jbird, all power to them, for who they root for, but I want a F^#@ING SB & I don’t care if an exchange student from Tiawan, QB’s us to it. I don’t blindly follow anyone, nor give anyone a pass on criticisms, whether they are black, white, purple, or Hulk green. But ignorant racists, can’t look past their own hate, & biases to even consider that. I’m black, Italian & Cherokee, so I don’t have any biases, nor preferences.

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 12:21 pm

jmt, WTF, are you smoking, or drinking. WTF, does Reids SB ring have to do with anything. Reid has a SB ring as GB qb coach. He’s been here since 99 & won stugots. Dude you are making a bigger smacked @$$ out of yourself, with each post. Quit, before you lose what little credibility & benefit of the doubt you have.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 16, 2012 12:22 pm

JBird you are one of the most prejudice people on this site, with your stereotypes and shit…I recall you trying to play the race card with me a few months back, until I told you my wife was Italian……There’s a big difference between racism and prejudice and on this site, its not racism, its prejudices…Either not liking a QB because he does not fit the “stereotype” of what a QB should be…Or disliking the head coach, because he is over weight or his son had some run ins with the law…JBird, you really need to shut your mouth, because you really don’t understand!

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 12:23 pm

, unfortunately I don’t agree with you when you say Vick has won nothing, when in fact he has, those probowls, comeback player of the year award etc. mean nothing to you but those accomplishments weren’t just given to him, he actually earned and won them. For you to say he hasn’t lead this team is also wrong, he led them but if they don’t follow, (meaning when other players, drop ball, cause penalties, the defense doesn’t hold up), you really can’t blame him for that, he can only lead its up to the others to follow. I am not saying that Vick doesn’t need to step up mainly avoiding the ints…… he does, but to say he doesn’t lead is bull. If you feel he is NOT A GOOD QB, OVERRATED, STUBBORN, OVERHYPED, well it sounds like you have already come determined how the season is going to end.

BTW, I’m not in love with anyone, a lot of you guys use the word LOVE too loosely on here. Just because we support and believe in our team including the Qb and you or others don’t like it, don’t give you the right to falsely accuse us of being LOVERS. But for some reason you “rock heads” can’t comprehend that or look without your rose colored glasses………….you see DCar that shit works both ways. One more thing I have noticed a lot of you folks resort to name calling when your opinion is not shared.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 16, 2012 12:27 pm

No no…Peace…don’t explain yourself…DCAR seems to have a split personality…one hand he is defending the Eagles team, upset about the negativity (which I give respect to him for) then he comes out of his mouth, clowns the Head Coach and the starting QB of his EAGLES TEAM…

Peace, I hear exactly what you’re saying when you say DCAR is talking out of both sides of his mouth…I think thats his alter ego, DVAN…

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 12:29 pm

LOL, my initial comment was about an entire team not just one player, however all you folks could take from it was Michael Vick……………..I wonder why.

, I never used the word “terrible” as you stated, not to mention I was not the only person to comment about the negative articles written about the Eagles, it doesn’t matter how it sounds to you, what matter is what I said.

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 12:31 pm

sounds like we disagree jmt …doubt that you can make a relevent comment, so I will leave it there

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 16, 2012 12:34 pm

LOL and anyone that thinks Tim Tebow, is more clutch than Vick needs to see a psychiatrist or get off the crack…The Tim Tebow comparison in the above article only emphasizes how much of a team game football really is…Jerry Brennan, your writing skills is, well…..ASS!

peace112
peace112
May 16, 2012 12:35 pm

@RealTalk, agreed

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
May 16, 2012 12:38 pm

and I haven’t even logged in yet….

greenfan
greenfan
May 16, 2012 12:38 pm

Ok peace, if you want to get stuck on the definition of terrible.

Seems like a pretty straight forward statement, but you will need to clue us in on what you really meant by :

“You’re right GCOBB is the most negative site as it relates to the Eagles.”

So you want us to believe that this was a positive endorsment of the site?

We all have the freedom to check out the site or not…and we all have the right to make whatever comment we want….my statement was that if this is “the most negative site as it relates to the Eagles”, why would a self-described Eagles fan want to be on here? Just asking peace, just asking.

jakedog
jakedog
May 16, 2012 12:40 pm

jbird, its comments like yours that fan the flames, why are you generalizing, making up stuff about how a group of fans looks at things, there is no need to go there, just state your opinion on the man’s ability to lead the team to a super bowl, we know that fraud McNabb couldn’t, its vick’s chance, and greenfan is correct, its about the quarterback,

schiller
schiller
May 16, 2012 12:43 pm

“Jerry Brennan, your writing skills is, well…..ASS!”

Ha, you mean “are” right?

“Me fail spelling? That’s UMpossibile” – Bart Simpson

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
May 16, 2012 12:44 pm

More on the Tim Tebow comparison to other QBs from the above article…looks like he was just as successful or more successful as some of the top QB’s in the league….so are we saying that he is more clutch than Brady and Rodgers, too? I mean everyone on the list in the article had a worst win percentage than Tebow…
Had you left Tebow out of it, the article could have been taken bit more serious…

DCar
DCar
May 16, 2012 12:47 pm

Tim Teblow sucks. BTW Real, thanks for your free diagnoses again. I didn’t know loving something & criticising it, made that person have split personalities. This for your professional opinion. Where did you get your degree BSU, or University of you don’t know stugots.