The Eagles defensive coaches were available to talk to the media yesterday, which is a change from the way or relationship has been structured over the years.
The major surprise of the visit with the coaches was made by safeties coach Michael Zordich, who admitted that he thought the team was going to acquire another safety.
“I thought that was going to happen, too,” Zordich told Philly.com on Tuesday at the Eagles Nova Care facility. “I did. But, I think, when you reflect back and look at the whole year and the growth that happened with these guys (Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Jaiquawn Jarrett, etc), I know I’m very comfortable with them, and obviously coach Reid and Howie feel the same thing.”
This will let the team’s safeties, Allen, Coleman, and Jarrett know that they’re under the spotlight. Everything they do is going to be analyzed. They’re going to need to be on top of their games.
I think they’re going to be fine as long as Allen and Coleman can stay healthy. I also believe the Eagles need to look at cornerbacks who they think are big enough, smart enough, and tough enough to play safety. I think you must have cover skills to play safety in the NFL nowadays.
I don’t see Coleman staying healthy because he plays a physical game, but isn’t very big.
“Last year’s gone,” Castillo said to Philly.com. “It’s about this year. It’s about us getting off to a good start, and starting where we left off last year” when the Eagles won their final four games.
He’s thrilled about the time he has to teach about the coverages and defenses, which they will employ this year.
“It’s about being able to teach. All the coaches … when you have four days to teach one coverage, now you’re able to break that coverage down vs. different personnel, really teach that coverages, whereas last year, if we had four days, we put almost all our coverages in,” Castillo said. ” It’s a big difference … It’s been good for us as teachers to be able to break everything down.”
He singled out DeMeco Ryans because of his leadership ability and the fact that he’s likely to make a huge difference in how the Eagles defense plays this season. Ryans has a presence about him that is confident and professional. As far as I’m concerned, having this veteran running the huddles and leading this defense will make them better immediately.
” ‘Meco’ is an experienced leader,” Castillo said. “Somebody asked me — has he been yelling? Is he loud in the classroom? No, you know what, he’s a professional. The way he carries himself in the classroom. The way he carries himself outside … right now he’s one of our leaders, and we haven’t even put on the pads, just by the way he carries himself.”
The more I hear about Ryans, the more I like the guy.
Please stay healthy this year ‘Meco, we need your leadership!!!
GO BIRDS!!!
I woould not be surprised to hear or see LB K Clayton and CB C Marsh taking some reps at Safety..
Zordich is validating the concerns of fans and I stick to my statements that the Eagles will regret not upgrading the position while they had time.
We were screaming for linebackers last offseason while this nuts sat pat and blew smoke up our asses and I’m tired of it!
There’s a pattern here…..
The Safety will suck ass in the 1st quarter of the season and we’ll pick up someone else’s garbage off the wire or practice squad after ignoring the spot when there was time to upgrade.
Hoping a player will play better than what we’ve seen already is insanity.
Nate Allen will be no better than what’s he’ve shown and they’ll probably let him play out his rookie contract then sell us another draft pick we’ll have to endure for another 4 losing seasons.
Coleman is our best Safety and he’s a good special teams player at best on the majority of teams in this league.
Jaquain Jarrett will go down as one of the greatest reaches in draft history.
This guy should have been an undrafted free agent…not a high 2nd round pick.
These are the 3 Safeties that have us crossing our fingers.
Should we be concerned?
Of course not…..Juan Castillo is over the defense.
Just Relax
Another cheap move by the birds. They expected Yeremiah Bell to sign for whatever…instead he goes to the Jets for 1 year – 1.4 million…really??
I’m as skeptical about our safeties as the next guy, but let’s at least be honest.
Coleman showed last year that he can be a reliable SS. He’s not a FS where he started the year. He’s a tough, physical guy. He may not be Polamalu, but he’s a decent starter until you find a stud at SS.
We don’t know what we have in Allen. The guy had a ton of talent coming out of So. Fla, but his injuries have set him back. This is the year we should find out what his long term prospects are.
Jarrett was a disappointment, but he wasn’t the no one SONGS portrays. Here’s Cosell on Jarret: “I really, really like this kid,” says Cosell. “I think if you could get him in the third round, he’d be a terrific pick. I think he’s only going to get better and better and better. He’s very athletic. He’s one of the best safeties I’ve watched on film. … He played very physically.” Jarrett also demonstrated ball skills (nine career INTs) and was the Owls’ special teams player of the year as a freshman. At the very least, he’s an NFL-ready gunner.
ceter……read carefully what Jarrett would “at least” contribute.
At the very least, he’s an NFL-ready gunner.
Would you use a 2nd rounder on a play that is projected to at least be NFL-ready gunner?
Are you freakin kid din me?
He was not projected no where near the position in which the Eagles grabbed him….
I’m tired of these damn “pies in the sky” that never lands, when the guy we need and is there for the taking gets ignored.
All this mess would not be an issue if the Eagles would have not moved up to pick a 3-4 outside linebacker in Graham with Earl Thomas sitting right there…
We picked Allen as a consolation thinking Graham would be the game changer and we were wrong.
Graham is a back rotational player in our scheme.
That’s what we traded up for which led to us addressing the needed Safety position.
If we would have stuck to most Mock drafts ‘Thomas” would be an Eagle and this Nate Allen Graham hoping would be non existent.
Songs,
We’ve already established that Safety Jarrett was not worthy being a 2nd ROund 2 years ago when he was selected.. It’s been talked about to death.
He’s on the Eagles Roster an he will fight of a job like many of the other players this summer.. Where he was selected at this point is moot and irrelevant to the task at hand which is selecting the best 53 Players for the 2012 Eagles Season.. I am no Jarrett fan as I stated for 2 years on here and believe he will not even be on a NFL roster by 2014 or so, but it’s not his fault the Eagles selected him as the #55 Overall Pick in 2011, let the kid play and see what he has.. The Who, What, Where, When’s of past Drafts are all irrelevant at this point..
Songs, if you keep bitching enough, time will reverse enough for the eagles, and only the eagles, to go back and do certain draft picks over. And if you can muster enough pms and utter stupidity, i’m talking your A game, then the time machine will also finagle an invinceable bionic Brian Dawkins who prefers to .play for 20 cents a season for the Eagles. Don’t give up chump, that is realistic
I like Songs reading comprehension –
VAlidated the concern of fans – really –
here is what I read : when you reflect back and look at the whole year and the growth that happened with these guys (Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Jaiquawn Jarrett, etc), I know I’m very comfortable with them
here is what GCOBB wrote: I think they’re going to be fine as long as Allen and Coleman can stay healthy.
songs must have been a politician in another lifetime – please tell us your opinion on the events in Syria – and then you get 15 minutes on current tax rates..
I too thought (and hoped) they would bring in a veteran safety.. I like competition – I would have liked to have seen a veteran come in and push all three to fight for playing time..
ceter = exactly…. glad someone else can see between blinding white light and pitch black there are quite a few shades of grey… who cares if the guy was drafted #1 or not at all – what matters is can the guy play – in Jarret’s case we will find out soon enough.
Songs,
“……after ignoring the spot when there was time to upgrade.”
You seem to be operating under the assumption that the eagles’ have 22 first round picks every year.
There are no solutions in this world. Only tradeoffs. If they had not “ignored” the safety spot, then they would have had to “ignore” another area.
So please tell me, which of the top 4 picks would you have not drafted…and what NFL superstar safety was sitting there when the Birds were picking? Barron was gone at 7….
So remember…no solutions…only tradeoffs. To acquire a safety, they would have had to not pick someone else….
Cox? (don’t you also say that Patterson etc are also ass). So would you have instead taken Harrison Smith the safety taken by the Vikes at 29 instead?
Kendricks (don’t you also say our LBs are ass?) WOuld you have preferred Tavon WIlson who went to the Pats 2 picks later?
Curry (I thought you said Graham was ass). Would you have instead selected Brandon Taylor or Brandon Harden who were the next 2 safeties off the board – though not untill the middle of the 3rd round….
Foles? Now I understand that this might be one guy who you would replace with a safety (I wouldn’t of course)…but replace with whom? The next safety selected was Christian Thomson….at the very end of the 4th round. I can just hear you screaming now how we reached with a 3rd round pick….
Going into the draft there were needs at…..wait for it….every position. LB (Obvious), DE (in 30s), DT (Injury history) QB (Vick), OT (Peter’s injury), RB (backup?), WR (size), ST (returner), DB (who’s in the slot + Cromartie), and of course also Safety…..but again….to select one means to ignore another.
The Eagles’ splurged on the FA thing last year – besides can’t build a team that way anyway….some want Bell….he’ll be 35…..
So. Go ahead…scream about “ignoring” safety. Just remember that if they had selected one in the top 4…we’d not have one of Cox, Kendricks, Curry or Foles.
Im with you on this one vinnie- great post!! Didn’t know you could put the hate down long enough to say something worth a dime. well done.
great posts Navy, Vinne, Stevo.
But also – another flaw in Song’s….hmmm can it actually be called “thinking”…. is – “The Eagles “IGNORED” the position”. Well let’s see, can you count the number of guys they’ve brought in to address safety on one hand in the last few years? NO you can’t – Allen, Coleman, Jarrett, Paige, Phillip Thomas, Colt Anderson. That’s not factoring in making changes at secondary coach either. So they’ve made attempts to address it. It hasn’t worked that well yet, but Songs is DEAD WRONG to say that they’ve ignored it.
AND – last two drafts have been really piss poor in terms of quality Safety availability. TRUE or FALSE…..we know the answer to that. Dems the facts.
Vinnie…to hell with Foles….How does that help us this season?
Will he fill the gaping void at safety?
Will he step in and win games in the event the QB is injured being a 3rd string at best?
Before the draft there were talk that the safety position would be addressed after the draft with Yeremiah Bell out there….who is better than every safety on our team.
The draft came and went and absolutely nothing happened and Bell signed a deal with the Jets for a pedestrian 1.4 mil…..so the money would not have been an issue.
Well at least the team have it’s annual built in excuse for things that will go wrong.
We’ll be sitting here next offseason with this poor excuse for an front office telling us that they really wanted to see what the young guys had before turning the page they’ll look to improve the position ……and that’s after we lose with those bums at safety and waste another season.
Watch
I think it’s clear Bell either wanted to play in NY to spite the dolphins or he wanted to not play for Bowles again due to some beef or something. Bell could have come her if he wanted to and he didn’t want to. Songs, you can’t force a Free Agent to sign with you. That’s what the FREE part means.
And songs, if you think you draft every draft pick to help in the current year, ha, every gm EVER would laugh at your cluelessness.
Songs – wathc this – I am not going to tap dance, change the question, or make up bullshit (like you) Unlike you I will address your concerns –
1) Foles may or may not help the team this year. As there have been EXACTLY two OTAs – I think it is safe to give Foles some time to develop.. It is not considered wise to draft a QB and immediatley toss him into the fire – I realize you think every single pick and every single player must only be brought in with the sole focus of how they will contribute to a super bowl victory – please (ala Vinnie) point out that accordning to you – Edwards is ass, Kafka is ass, Watkins in Ass, Kelce is ass, and seeing how it is entirley possible Vick may be out at som epoint this season – Foles may in fact be called on to help out…
Gaping void at safety – dude – the only gaping void is the one between your ears – again – read the comments from Zordich and GCOBB – Bell would make an excellent addition – sure – but he was 35, played in the box, was not strong on cover skills, and I think a little slower then Jarret (double check me) as a former coach – if I had two very comparable athletes – I always went with the younger…. can Bell play special teams? I don;t know..
Will he step in and win games – 3rd string at best – we shall see – 70% completion rate – tall, strong arm.. moves well, willing to check down.. I think I remember a few years back a 3rd strnger named AJ Feeley coming in and winning some games…
Yes, lots of talk – there was lots of talk about lots of people – I know I hoped for BEll adn Addai.. didn;t happen – maybe I should get on here every day and piss all over myself about how the back-up RB is not a vet??
yep – thanks for keeping us up to date on waht we already knew –
pedestrain 1.4 – funny thing here is that means ALL 32 teams had a shot at him and that was the best deal he could work out.. and I think he is a back-up plan kind of guy behind LanDry..
really – what a sad pathtic life you have if you sit around pre-planning what other entities are going to say and do.. is that really your warped thinking ‘annual built in excuse’, dude – you are pathetic.. but I guess 31 teams have their annual built in excuse..
really – we aren’t even to training camp and you are pre-bitching about next year’s offseason – not even so much as training camp… well – I think you, as a porr excuse of a fan (and clearly a miserable fuck as a human being) should lightne the hell up, take a laxitive and increase your fiber, and just pay the money to go get a massage with a happy ending, cause you are one sad, sad, sad joyless person.
and no matter what happens, you will claim to have predicted it –
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Navy…focus
When I say a built in excuse…..
Making drastic moves in a lock out off season with minimal OTA’s.
Switching the failed offensive line coach to defensive coordinator.
Passing on linebackers only to plug a 4th rounder in to start at MLB.
Did we not talk about this costing us a season before the season started?
You think the Eagles heard those concerns yet did nothing?
Did we not hear these as excuses once the team failed to make the playoffs based on these same concerns before the season?
We were told countless times by the Eagles after getting our season wasted that the failed season was due to a lot of change on the defensive side of the ball because of limited OTA’s.
We were also told, the defense started to come around in the last quarter while squandering the first 3 quarters.
Those are built in excuses dude….and I’m stating now that the Safeties will be the excuse we’ll use next offseason.
The disgusting part about this is that I’ll be right and you guys will still ignore the obvious.
I said it last offseason and you claimed I had no idea what was going to happen with the changes…give em a chance you said.
and?
Well, i’m batting 1,000 buddy so you “oughtta listen”.
dude – don;t need to listen to shit you have to say becuase
1) You don;t really know anything other then to to whine like a bitch
2) When actually listened to and your assertions/questions/stupid comments are shot down – you simply ‘change’ what you said
dude – been on this site for years – you talk about EVERY season ending before it starts – your a bitch
if I had the inclination – I could provide you examples of yourposting where you both agreed and disagreed with everything you just wrote – you talk out both ends of your ass – of course you are going to be right – just watch – becuase you talk so much shit –
‘still ignore the obvious’ – you mean we can;t have the NFC Pro bowl team be our starting line-up – you mean we need to live within a salary cap – you mean we can;t have 3 pro bowl QBs – you mean there is no simple, obvious move that will garuntee a super bowl, you mean that there are idiots that will sit around Monday morning QBing everything going I told you so..
see Songs – while your bullshitting – you wanted some of those changes without OTAs, while your bullshitting, you applauded the selection of Roseman to GM, while your bullshitting, you predicted 16-0 and a SB, after you spent a week whining about not signing ASMO soon enough..
we were ‘told’ many things – funny – most people spend there time bitching the eagle sdon;t say enough, they don;t talk to the press, then when they say something – idiots like you call everything they say is an excuse – so they are damned if they do, damned if they don;t….
so a little whining bitch basically says if you don;t win the Sb, anything you say the enitre next offseason is a built in excuse – your whol elife is a fucking excuse – you constantly make excuses for why you get to be such a negative, whiney, sniveling douche – what is the difference between AR saying this is the reason we didn;t win last year and your screetching like a bitch in heat – aren;t you just making excuses – isn;t your whole post a ‘built in excuse’ for your bitching? Navy – I need to bitch becuase it will be disgusting in a year… and here are all my excuses…
but bottom line is last year was last year, this year is this year, what happens last year has ZERO bearing on this year – so at what age are yo ugoing to grow up and stop constantly bitching about what happened before? The Egales have invested two 2nd round DPs at Safety and have a couple other folks in camp – the Safety coach has said he is comfortable, Bowles is one record as saying they are more talented and athletic then anyone he has coached before. They have upgraded the Dl and LB, they have 2 pro bowl CBs and several other guys fighting for the slot and 3rd CB..
batting 1000 – really – dude – I got you battng .015 – like a broken watch right 2 minutes every day – fucked up the other 23h58m
songs, you are not batting 1,000. You have a convenient memory that forgets when you swing and miss. Your lack of brains and ego cover that shit up for you in your eyes, but you are FAR from batting 1000. LIGHTYEARS AWAY
You clowns are like my family away from family. The hatred you spew at each other on a DAILY basis is just hilarious.
I got love for each and every one of you. LMAO.
look at the picture heading this article…then (pause)
look again…..
How confident are you knowing Juan Castillo is your defensive coordinator?
Here’s something even scarier.
Rory Segrest was evaluated at one point ahead of Castillo and coached 3 different positions between special teams and defense during his tenure.
I’m looking forward to a serious change after the season…Get Reid the hell outta and watch to see if Juan will stalk the next Head anointed and brown nose his way into another job.
This guy is a professional ass kisser, and I can’t wait until this season is done to tell you all…..
I told you so.
LOL…I actually read Vinnie’s entire post! Overrall, Vinnie, that was real talk!
Coleman and Allen will be fine.
i think COle and Allen will be fine also, but don’t believe they either can stay healthy for an entire season either.. Would still like to see a Veteran Added for
back-up support (Deon Grant from the Giants would be a solid pick, he’s a 13 year Vet but has always been a back-up so he is not beat up.. He’s familiar with the NFC East playing for the Giants the last couplde of seasons and is no threat to take anyone’s job but would be a better back-up option in the event of Coleman/Allen getting injured.).. Melvin Bullitt, Atogwe , Chris Harris, Jim Leonard, Kareem Moore & Gibril Wilson are all still out there also.
Props from Songs and Real? Damn…better get the devil on the line and ask what the temperature is like down there….
The Eagles screwed the pooch when they selected Graham over Earl Thomas and they know it. I thought for sure when they moved up in the draft Thomas would be selected. Bottom line is that they simply think they are so much smarter than everyone else. But i am pleased with some of the off seaon moves made this year, and the great selection of draft picks. Who knows, maybe 1 of the 3 pan out to be decent safties. Just have to wait and see what happens in camp.
DMAN…lets put the Graham/Thomas to rest
Going into the 2010 draft the Eagles were 32 out of 32 teams in sacks with 38 total sack on the year. We were in a 2-gap system that didn’t allow for the rotation of DL we currently use. Of the 38 total sacks 20.5 came from our starting DE.
Cole (28 yrs): 12.5 sacks
Parker (32 yrs): 8 sacks
Cole was locked up through 2013 while Parker was coming off his best year, but was going to be 32 in 2010 and was signed through 2011.
Mikell (30 yrs) and Jones (28 yrs) were also coming off strong seasons top 5 in tackles and int for the team (Our safeties for those who don’t like google). And both were signed through 2010.
Graham and Thomas were both great college players with plenty of accolades, but if you have to chose between an impact pass rusher and safety teams will take the pass rusher 9 out of 10 times. Please don’t use the “Graham was projected as an OLB in a 3-4” excuse because Cole was of the same pedigree (weight, height, speed) of Cole and showed up to the combine at 230 lbs and had a better overall college career than Cole. If you’d like the stats I’d be happy to oblige.
apologies for the terrible sentence structure of the previous statement, but I can assure you bourbon took its toll. I don’t mean to call DMAN out directly, but to the populous with a grudge against Graham, and 20/20 hindsight, you can’t fault the FO for taking a DE when our pass rush was soooooooo miserable, lacking depth (Abirimini, Babin (pre 9 tech), Clemons, Howard) and aging. We still had Mikell (SS) under contract and took Nate in the 2nd. While aging, there was no immediate no way to know that the S FA market was going to blow up in 2011 (Rams overpaid bigtime) and it was easier to roll the dice on Parker’s (32) replacement than Mikell’s (30)
Aren’t we both better & worse than we were last year? We are both undefeated & have no wins. LMFAO!!! Come on guys. LMFAO!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Remember, you can’t talk sense, with the senseless.
mryan – excellent points. Well stated too. mmmmm bourbon
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Just look at Juan in that picture up there and tell me you’d be surprise if there’s a total collapse this season.
rev. songs. has the devil got your ear or something, with these dire predictions before the season starts you are starting to sound like that clown paulman on the phillies side of things, the eagles will go as far as vick takes them, its that simple
Ha Songs, you are correct, NFL football records are determined by interpretations of pictures of defensive coordinators in May.
Yep. It’s that simple.
Jake, are you perhaps FINALLY realizing that your ‘revered’ hero is a pathetic dumbass?
jake…Vick will do pretty well by putting us in position to compete for a playoff spot but the trends don’t lie. There’s a good chance he’ll go down a few games within the season and there’s no adequate backup…..and the Safeties are ass….DRC will be a target along with the bum ass safeties, along with Juan in the mix, will destroy the season..
That’s reality
“The disgusting part about this is that I’ll be right and you guys will still ignore the obvious.”
All the dude Songs Wants is to be right “I”LL BE RIGHT”
see Songs will support Vick no matter what but hate the rest of the team.
Songs, did Vick throw Int’s last year? Did vick hold onto the ball too long at times? Did vick make bad decisions at times last year? Did he “put us in position to compete for a playoff spot” last year? Or do you just ignore that stuff because you love Vick?
For the record, I’m neither a Vick hater nor a Vick lover. I think he CAN lead the Eagles to success. I think he has many flaws, and I think he overall played poorly last year. I root for him and am pulling for him. I do have my doubts about his ability to lead the Eagles to a championship, and I think it’s because of the way he was brought up as a superstar – i think his ego was trained in a way that prevents him from really pushing himself to higher levels (beyond verbally). We’ll see.
But let’s be honest folks, if Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Brandon Graham, and Casey Mathews all make the probowl this year, Juan gets DC honors, and the Eagles make the SB but lose because Vick funmbles the ball while being distracted by his own image in an OL’s helmet reflection, Songs will blame someone OTHER than Vick.
must again agree with th rev., with no adequate back up and an injury prone qb, the eagles again are in a position of vulnerabilty, jeff garcia is available, hell mcnabb is available, if or when vick gets hurt kafka?, Ewards?, a rookie project?
Jake….notice we all see this backup QB thing as an issue based on Vick’s injury history yet the Eagles will go into the season with the bums backing Vick up and act as if no one mentioned that there were better QB’s available..McNabb would be perfect in a back up position and have excelled in this offense…yet the Eagles refuse to call him up.
Jake can’t see anything accept the hardened stool in your large intestine his head is so far up your ass – maybe that’s why you are constipated – –
now – how did that whole ‘veteran’ Vince Young thing work out last year?
I seem to remember Kafka actually moved the ball well against who was it… Atlanta – then it was Maclin right that dropped a wide open first down play…
I also remember a year we went into the year (2002) where our 2001 5th rounder won 4 out of 5 starts….
but let’s see – in the Songs (and because they are siamese twins attached ese attached cranially-rectally) method of thinking – it is bad that Edwards was out of football last year Garcia hasn’t p;ayed since 2008 season –
then look at what a disaster McNabb has been since he departed Philly –
but these guys would be super –
notice how if its a player songs likes – they can by some miracle regain the form they once had – but if its a player that songs dislikes (say Graham, Allen, Celek) and they have an off year – they instantly get classified as ‘ass’ (no that’s where Jake’s head is) and no way they can ever recover –
take a guy like say…. DRC – former pro-bowler – accordning to songs – toast…. yet he is young and healthy as compared to the 40 something Garcia dn 35 year old McNabb –
now lets really get the ball rolling – why bpther even having Vick here? I am sure Vinnie can give you the stats on how much statistically better Garcia and McNabb are then Vick – how they don;t turn the ball over, how they are efficient…. Why not bring one of those guys in as starters?
Then lets look at how many years did McNabb have his chance to take the team to the promise land… did he succeed? But now he is going to walk in on a team you already called I think at least 7 of the starters and every single back up ass – like who the back up QB is makes a difference –
I’m sorry – whihc personality is it we are talking to today.. our are we just looking for our built in excuse to bitch all season?
Eagles have a history under Reid Leaving the franchise vulnerable, first it was we do not need good wideouts in our system, even though it was obvious with the likes of Pinkston, Thrash, Brown, they wasted the best years of the franchise qb, after the fans and any casual observer realized this glaring weakness , they all of a sudden got smart, signed or traded for TO, surprise, the fans were right, eagles go to super bowl, McNabb had his best year as a pro, then it was we don’t need a return man,lose the Green Bay game as a result, and up until djax, position been defunct with the likes of Chad Hall, Reno Mahee, they both suck, next it was linebackers, no, in the infinite wisdom of his lard ass Reid, linebackers are not important, let’s draft a guy who looks like his brother, pencil him in as your starting middle linebacker, until he is exposed as the fans, or the enlightened fans predicted, now its the safety position and back up qb, with all the positives in this off season this team may not and probably will still not compete for a championship because once again they are vulnerabvle at key positions, if it were not so damn infuriating it would be comical
You are only as strong as you weakest link
This year’s weakest link?
The Safety position
No McNabb, No Garcia, Assantwe Samuel, or Brian Dawkins, or TO , or David Akers… Stop living in the damn past Songs,,, It’s 2012 and time to move on and besides,what did the Eagles win exactly with them when they all played for the Eagles.. that’s right, nothing.. .
yeah Jake – but you miss one very important fact – the two years prior to TO getting there – when they had bad WRs – the team was 12-4 and #1 seed in NFC – the year TO was there – 13-3 and #1 seed in NFC –
funny thing – TO was hurt in the playoffs – and that whole Lewis, Mitchell Pinkston trio (i.e the same WRs minus Trash who becoame a draft pick that became Trent Cole).. were the same WRs that got the birds into the SB so who was right.. the fans or Andy.. cause he said the WRs were good enough
now to the observant FB fan – those of us with actual football knowledge – we will point out the 2004 Eagle DEFENSE was actually the best ever under Andy Reid…. we will also point out that only 1 player was a holdover from the Ray RHodes era (dawkins) and Trotter was signed as a FA the year before from the skins… that the D beat up on the Falcons – something that didn;t happen against St Loius, Tampa or Carolina….
oh – and TO destroyed the team the next year….
eh, water under the bridge right?