• September 30, 2022

Eagles Must Avoid Short Throws To Asante Samuel’s Side

I’ll guarantee you that former Eagles cornerback and now Falcon cornerback Asante Samuel will be running his mouth on Sunday and all of his former Eagles teammates know it.

“He’ll do more talking with the receivers,” said Eagles quarterback Michael Vick. “I don’t get involved in that.”

“No question, that’s Asante”, said Birds cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. “That’s the great thing about him. You love his spirit. He knows these guys personally, just like they know him personally,” Rodgers-Cromartie said. “He made good friends with Mike Vick and DeSean Jackson.

During all of his years with the Birds, Samuel was the voice you heard above all the others at practice, but he backed it up.  I’ve never seen a cornerback who was more successful in jumping short pass routes.  He knows Vick and he knows just about all of the Birds receivers, Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant and Riley Cooper.  Samuel will come into the game with a plan to pick off some passes if they come his way.

Earlier this season, Samuel picked off a short pass by Oakland Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer pass in the fourth quarter and ran it back 79 yards for a touchdown to help the Falcons come from behind and stay undefeated.  I can’t understand why quarterbacks continue to test him with the short passes.  He is vulnerable to double moves and deep routes, but you don’t have success throwing short patterns against Samuel.

I encourage Vick and the Birds to stay away from Samuel on short patterns, whether they be out routes, curl routes, or slants.  Don’t throw short patterns to Samuel’s side.  If Vick does throw the ball over there on short routes, he’s probably going to get the chance to make a tackle or two.

The veteran cornerback has the ability to study receivers and quarterbacks to the point where he can read the route while the receiver is running it.  Once he has the receiver figured out, you can’t throw any short stuff his side.  The former Pro Bowl corner can figure out minute aspects of their games, which tip him off to the routes they’re running.


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October 25, 2012 11:17 am

Run the ball right at him, throw bubble routes,screens and hit hime around a bit and then set him up for Double-Post Moves if the Eagles QB Mike Vick even knows what that means…

October 25, 2012 11:21 am

@Paulman – yea hopefully the O Line can create running lanes, so they give Shady a chance to ave a avg per carry of more than 1 yard, dumb ass! ….

October 25, 2012 12:09 pm

I can see it now, 1st play is a bubble route to D-Jax in front of Samuel
D-Jax jukes Samuel out of his helmet and races to the sideline with an open field of green ahead of him and as he swtiches the ball from his left hand to his right arm to place the ball closest to the sideline which is proper technique, D-Jax fumbles as his right knee comes up and pops the ball out.. Falcons Safety Thomas DeCoud, picks up the ball and runs 40 Yards for a Falcons TD while a stunned Eagles Teams and Fans go absoutley silent and stay silent as the Falcons score 36 UNasswered points to go up 36-0 until the scrubs finish the game in the 4th Quarter to make final 43-17 with Foles leading 2 4th Quarter TD’s (1 to Mardy Gilyard, 1 to Stan Havilli) against the 2nd Stringers of the Falcons.. Somewhere on South Street, I can hear the
“Mummer’s” practicing with their Bango’s and so it goes in the Philly and the land of “Brothery Love”.. Fans boo Vick,Reid, MM and the entire Team as the game ends which really puts the coffin into the Eagles Chances for 2012 and also spells the end for Coach AR and Owner Jeff Lurie knows it now and starts working behind the Scenes to bring in a new HC/GM with a new Vision

October 25, 2012 12:11 pm

Definitely run it right at him. Asante either doesn’t tackle or he lays the boom on somebody with his hat and gets hurt. Either way is good for the Eagles.

ATL is 12 in the league against the pass (yardage) averaging 223 ypg allowing 6 TDs, but they have 10 INTs.

ATL is 28 in the league against the run allowing 143 ypg and 7 tds.

You have to run Shady and Brown down their throats this week, because the Falcons haven’t been able to stop the run yet this year.

October 25, 2012 1:39 pm

We need to run the ball right at him. He’s prone to shoulder injury, if only short term. Let Havili pound him a couple times and knock him out of the game.

October 25, 2012 2:18 pm

Paulman- You live in a dark place. While I do not support Reid your vivid scenario borders on a cry for help.

October 25, 2012 2:26 pm


For those who say run it right at Asante?

Well, you can’t use Atlanta’s deficiency at run defense as a plus for the Eagles because, Atlanta was playing against teams with massive offensive lines.

Shady will be running behind weak ass Reynolds, garbage ass Watkins, with average Herremans to get to the 2nd and 3rd levels.

So scrap that idea because Dunlap (our biggest lineman) is on the opposite side of Asante Samuel.

I do believe the Eagles should stick with I formations all game in power attacks with the fullback right up the middle to test Atlanta…sweeps will not work against this fast defense.

The Eagles will win this game because they have to which brings the record to 4-3 before getting blowed the hell out in New Orleans bringing the record to 4-4.

Really the next articles should ask the fans….

Is it Ground Hog Day?

Were we cursed into mediocre purgatory?

Like I’ve said for some time now…..

Wake me up when Andy Reid and all his compadres are fired!!!!!!!!

October 25, 2012 2:32 pm

I agree SOngs,
I hope Eagles finish 3-13 so they can get a Top #5 Player
Coach AR and his complete Staff will be fired the first Monday in January after the Season is over.. I think Todd Bowles has a chance to remain and interview for the HC Position and or remain as DC if he handles the Defense well over these final 10 games of the 2012 Season

October 25, 2012 3:23 pm

This is a clown on full display “I hope my favorite football team finished 3-13” Who the f*** says something like that? wow!

October 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Pman- you worry about the panthers.. ok son?

I want to respond To MM’s words today about the turnovers…. he said turnovers were the main problem of everything…. I agree…. but then he went on to say that play calling has nothing to do with the turnovers……. UH???? what?? I STRONGLY DISAGREE!! Listen…. this is not an attempt to get anyone off any hooks but….. when a team knows you are throwing on just about every down… they will drop more back. So….. playcalling FOR SURE plays a roll is some of that. Let me give you another example….. look at Brown’s carry last year when he was “supposed to pitch it back”….. how is that NOT a turnover because of the play calling?

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
October 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Same article written about A.SAMS since 2009…LOL
Way to stay fresh and relevant

October 26, 2012 12:39 pm

First play of the game…. whoever Samuel is covering have them run an out and up….let Asante bite and beat them down the field early…opens up the running game.

October 26, 2012 12:42 pm

Barkevius Mingo, LSU…… wishful thinking he falls to the Birds…. Demarcus Ware clone… the kid can bring it!!

October 26, 2012 12:52 pm

Mingo will be a Top 5 Pick and probably the top Defensive Player Taken in the 2013 Draft.. He’s definitely a beast and has a very bright future ahead of him

October 26, 2012 2:28 pm

front office playing fantasy football
Asante is funny

October 26, 2012 2:35 pm

It looks like the eagles are a 8-8 team again with a massive need for linemen DT, OT and OG in the draft
Bell, Patterson, & Vick will most likely be cap casualties maybe Mathis — Asmo & Graham have another year of guarantee money so they will be back — Maclin might be on the trade market before draft ( with the money spent this off season on WR, I think he easily gets more than the Eagles will want to spend in the 2014 off season

October 26, 2012 2:58 pm

“when a team knows you are throwing on just about every down…”


NFl average: 64% called passes 36% called runs
Eagles average 68% called passes 32% called runs

Eagles have run 428 plays total this year. Of those 137 have been runs and 291 have been passes.

If they went to the league average, they’d have called 154 runs and 274 passes.

Divide by 6

We’re talking about is 3 more rushes and 3 less passes each game to get to what the rest of the league is doing.

Do you really think calling 3 more runs and 3 less passes a game is going to change things??????

Teams throw in today’s NFL. You need a good QB to win.

We don’t.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
October 26, 2012 5:14 pm

Vinnie ..If you do further “research” you will see that almost all of the first place teams pass the ball LESS then that “Average” and RUN THE BALL SOME OF THE MOST IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE. 1st place Niners and Texans actually run the ball more then pass at 48% pass playcalling. 52% running.

October 26, 2012 9:43 pm

No they don’t….you’re counting rushes vs pass atts. But you can’t look at that. Instead, look at called passes (attempts + sacks + QB scrambles) vs called rb runs….then you get….

SF 234 pass 194 rush or 55% pass….45% rush
Hou 240 pass 238 rush….basically 50 50

But then please remember that both these teams have had huge leads in the 2nd half of their games playing pathetic teams like the Bills 45-3, Jets 34-0, Jax 27-7, Mia 30-10 etc…..easy to run a lot vs JV squads….

You will notice, if you actually did any research, that in their tight games, or games against superior opponents….both the 49ers and Texans were very close to the 65/35 ratio…..
ex Houston vs GB 42 passes 27 runs or 61%pass 39%run
ex SF vs Min 40 passes to 23 runs or 63%pass 37% run
ex sf vs NYG 44 passes 13 runs or 77% pass 23% run

Eagles have been in plenty of close games. And have 3 againt good opponents…thus more passes…like every other team in the same situation…

funny also, that you bring up the “first place teams” you fail to mention other “first place teams” like….

NYG 282 pass 171 run…..or 62% pass 38% run
ATL 262 pass 124 runs….or 68% pass 32% run (just like the birds!!)

Or screwed by the refs and about to be first place teams like
GB 312 pass 143 runs….or 69%pass 31 %run

Or even traditional power rushing teams like the Steelers
256 pass 147 rush……or 64% pass 36% run

Again, the Eagles are pretty close to most of these teams….close to most of the teams in the league. The premise put forward by Stevo that the turnovers happen because the Eagles pass 65% of the game. That’s BS.

Everyone throws 65% of the time nowadays. Find a QB who can handle that or lose. End of story.

Next time you might want to do some research on your own before you go asking me to……and keep in mind I’ve forgotten more about the game than you’ve even seen.

And now…cue another Vickpologist stating…..”well, its not that the eagles call so many passes, its the TYPE of passes they call. Always asking for 7 step slow developing blah blah incorrct incorrect blah blah….”

October 27, 2012 8:43 am

Paulman, being a true Eagles fan myself, ” I feel you” as they say. That type of thing would bring a fitting end to the Reid era. A possible break free to the goal, only to be thwarted by one’s own mistake.

October 27, 2012 1:57 pm

ok vinnie…,. so what you are saying is that the eagles basically throw it 7 out of 10 times…. and this negates my point how? Because other teams (mostly the losing ones) do this too?

also…. it has been shown then when the Birds DO run…. they lead the league in going nowhere. So teams Dont fear our run game at all.

Also….. teams dont really need to send the blitz often because a 4 man rush is MORE than enough to get to vick.

Heres the reality… and i know it hurts your theory about Vick deserves ALL the blame ALL the time….
1. This same throw throw throw all pressure on the QB crap happened here before with McNabb.
2. Andy has been a 70% passing coach in ALL situations for EVER,
3. Our Oline is as bad as it has ever been.
4. Our WR’s are down field type guys… they need time and space.
5. Our QB is a QB who needs time and space to do his thing. (i never wanted that “thing” to be here but i have seen it CAN work)

All of this equals a problem. Listen, im fine with the fact that Vick is gone next year… i never wanted him in the first place….. but Vick has not been here for 14 years…… he wasnt around when we were screaming for a WR…. ANY wr. You can spew your Vick hate ALL you want but teams know that we are going to throw it ALL DAY. When its the end of the game and we have a 10 point lead and need to run the clock…. we will throw. When its 3 and 1 and we have one of the best RB’s in the game….. we will throw. When we are at mid field and driving the ball…… the best we can expect is a end around by jackson…… or a latteral from Brown…. because Andy is smarter than all the other coaches.

I have been done with this coach since the NFC champ cards game when we drove the ball down the field and scored late in the game to go on top. We watched the D fold….. like it always does now.

We need a coach is is better than “average”.

October 27, 2012 3:25 pm

Damn…I just wrote a long response and was about to send it when poof…I was transferred to the sign in page….not writing it again….

to paraphrase:
New coach we get is going to be 60-40 pass to run at best.

Several SB winning teams of late were 65-35 including NO, NYG, NE and GB….did they use that as an excuse for their QBs??

Have posted many times about Reids various foibles. Time for him to move on….but if I have to choose who is most at fault for this year’s mess (and it is a mess, we should be 1-5 I’ll take shitty QB (and honestly who may be the worst QB in the entire league right now….ok he’s better than Gabbert, Palmer, Skelton and ummm and…ok that’s about it) over the most sccessful coach in franchise history any day.