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Report: Eagles Prefer To Keep Maclin Over Cooper

DeSean Jackson, Jeremey MaclinAccording to Jeff Mclane of Philly.com, the Eagles have made it a priority to re-sign Jeremy Maclin before Riley Cooper.

Per Mclane, the Eagles want to sign Maclin to a one-year deal, and pursue another starting caliber receiver in free agency. The team hasn’t ruled out bringing Cooper back, but he’s not their first choice.

I’m not sure that I buy certain aspects of this report.

I can’t see the Eagles going out and spending serious money on a veteran free agent receiver with this year’s draft overloaded on great talent at the position. Eric Decker, Hakeem Nicks, Anquan Boldin, and James Jones are the best veteran options out there other than Maclin and Cooper.

Are any of those guys worth breaking the bank for? Especially when the Eagles could just as easily retain both and Maclin and Cooper for less while adding additional talent in the draft? I like Decker, but I wouldn’t overpay for him. He’s a nice player, but I think his numbers have been helped greatly by Peyton Manning and playing alongside elite talents like Demaryius Thomas, Wes Welker, and Julius Thomas.

Nicks has intriguing talent, but he’s been injured just as much as Maclin. Boldin is too old to commit any serious money to. Jones, much like Decker, has played with an elite quarterback and a deep receiving corp.

As for the idea of the Eagles keeping Maclin over Cooper, you could make an argument for either player. On one hand, its beneficial for the Eagles to keep Cooper solely for his chemistry with Nick Foles, but I also recognize that Maclin is the superior talent and could bring a lot to the table if healthy. If I had to choose only one of the two, I’d go with Cooper because of his relationship with Foles and because he’s bigger, physical target that I think compliments DeSean Jackson very well. Maclin may have the better talent, but he’s too similar to DeSean and his injury history works against him.

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NuGreembol
NuGreembol
February 21, 2014 11:12 pm

Maclin is a lot better than Cooper, but Cooper has made himself a nice role in this offense. I love Coopers physical aspect when he runs after the catch defensive back look like they want no parts of bringing him down. Cooper competes with a fire needed on the team and he plays with a chip on his shoulder and is a good run blocker. Maclin is the better overall talent who also had chemistry with Foles in year one. he can run any route and has great body control. I don’t want to forget what kind of player he could be getting too excited about Coopers production last year. He is also a pretty good blocker outside and plays hard no matter the circumstances. Maclin has really good production to start his career and minus his ACL from last year he missed only 5 games in 4 years so he hasn’t been as injury prone as people think.
2010 16gm 70catches 964 and 10td’s
2011 13gm 63catches 859 and 5td’s
2012 15gm 69catches 857 and 7td’s

one thing that stand out is regardless of the QB or team situation he is highly consistent. In this offense 80 balls 1000yards 7 TD’s would be almost a sure thing. ACL is no easy thing to come back from but its not as devastating as it use to be. he had a full year and some to recover and with be fully healthy. I really would want them both back but if I had to choose ehhhh I would take Maclin and draft my next up guy. If you go the other way with Cooper and he is a flash in the pan it could hurt a little more than a one year deal for Maclin would.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 6:34 am

The Eagles will “prefer” the player(s) that sign with them for the $$ they offer!!

Maclin is the better “pure” Wr. Obviously much faster.

But this report is just one of those reports that surfaces because there’s nothing else to write about.

The “Eagles prefer Maclin” thesis conveniently ignores 3 very important details:

1 – Cooper’s downfield blocking which is superior to Maclin’s and essential in Kelly’s offense.
2 – His chemisty with the starting QB who clearly trusts Cooper
3 – Kelly’s “bigger stronger” players philosophy.

The best situation would be to sign both becuase they bring different abilities to the table.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 22, 2014 9:57 pm

I agree Vinnie, but we really don’t know what kind of chemistry Maclin will have with Montana I mean Foles haha.. He may come back and get over 1000 yards and 10 + tds. Both Desean and Cooper had big years, Maclin is a mix of both those receivers.. Id think Maclin would really excel in this offense, even more so than Desean and Cooper..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 22, 2014 6:56 am

Last year, Djax played the right side and had his best season. That is the side Maclin has played his entire career. Reid always lined up DJax on the left.
Djax 126 targets for 82 catches
Riley Cooper 84 targets for 47 catches
If Maclin is on the field those targets even out at best and probably return to where Maclin is getting more balls thrown to him. Can Djax handle that again?

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 8:05 am

If Eagles release Avant and save $4.6 Million
For 2014, then Re-Sign Cooper & Maclin to Team friendly contracts and then use a mid-Round Draft Pick for a WR would be the way to go..
From GM Roseman’s comments about this Draft
It appears he & the Eagles really like some WR’s in this Draft
I don’t see the Eagles having all 4 WR’s back
(D-Jax,Avant,Cooper,Maclin) and then using a high pick at WR

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
February 24, 2014 7:45 pm
Reply to  paulman

I’m sorry but I said that and you and Dcar made it seem like a irresponsible move bc of the cap number spent on WR.

andrew p
andrew p
February 22, 2014 10:30 am

People, below is part of the article Denny was talking about, he left out the part about the Eagles looking for a receiver in free agency, if that’s the route they take you can believe if they draft a receiver it will be later on, as for people still talking about spending money, in case anyone don’t know, the cap moved up to 130 million this year which means we just got an extra 4 million to spend, I can see that extra money changing things for us and putting us in more of a position to take a shot at one of those big name safety’s.

INDIANAPOLIS – The Eagles have prioritized retaining Jeremy Maclin before Riley Cooper as the wide receivers near free agency, according to NFL sources.

If all goes to plan, the Eagles will sign Maclin to a one-year contract and attempt to acquire another starting-caliber receiver via free agency. Cooper remains on the radar, and the Eagles could circle back if they don’t land another target, but securing Maclin will take precedence.

The Silencer10
The Silencer10
February 22, 2014 10:44 am

@Eagles0suoerbowls.. Desean had always played the right .. And it’s not about the side he plays.. First of all DJ is our X receiver..the go to and presumably the num 1 receiver. The X receiver is the split end. He is the widest receiver away from the tight end. Mac has been our z/flanker wideout since he’s been here. And of course some plays he was the X. And yea DJ can handle it.. He’s far from injury prone.. Maclin a numbers are a result if the attention and double coverage DJ brings. Mac isn’t better than DJ in any part if his game. It was proven this last year Andy didn’t kno how to use him and chip sure as hell did..

I believe we need to get Mac back under a one year deal. Because I think if chip can turn DJ into a top ten wr in one season, DJ is now gonna command even more attention leaving a faster and little more talented Mac to do some work. I like cooper. But he’s shown he doesn’t have that elite separation when needed. He’s crafty and a big bodied veteran..I would let coop go if he wants too much loot and draft a good young wr. Decker and Nicks are available but $$ is the issue. But chip wants and needs blocking wrs and that may help coop a lot to be brought back

I also see chip drafting d’anthony Thomas… And t

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 22, 2014 11:13 am
Reply to  The Silencer10

Silencer – Mike Vick is a left handed QB so DJax played the left side as the #1 wr, Nick Foles is a right handed QB so Djax played there this season. Can Maclin play on the left side? I think DJax is a better receiver for all things you believe but he pouted when Foles was targeted Cooper and others instead of him late in the year with his on the field demeanor. Maclin will get more balls thrown to him than Cooper did, can DJax compose himself and be a good teammate if/when that happens?

Butch007
Butch007
February 22, 2014 10:57 am

It’s pretty ridiculous that the Eagles waited until now to try to get a deal done. There’s no question that Maclin is the better receiver and if officiation more resembles the playoff and superbowl officiation Cooper’s gonna be in trouble this coming year with as much as he likes to keep his hands on defenders down the field to create space. Personally I’d love to see Anquan Boldin in this offense, he blocks extraordinarily well and is a beast with the ball but it’s hard for me to see him leaving the 49ers unless they decide they just don’t want to sign him.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 22, 2014 11:04 am

If this is true they will take a wr in the 1st rd of the draft or trade back and take one in the 2nd rd

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 12:20 pm

Some very good looking OL Prospects
working out today at Combine
Could the Eagles take an OT at #22 to groom for LT to replace Peters who is in his final year of his Deal..
We all know that Chip likes big,athletic OL
and pkaces of a strong, versatile, athletic OL
As the key to running his Offense
GM Cliff– what OT’s do you like in this Draft

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 22, 2014 1:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

I was watching the Olympics Hockey and the combine during intermission.
I wish I could remember who liked the OT from Nevada first to give him a High five for that find.
GMCliff’s fat asses didn’t look good today:
Tiny Richardson from Tennessee
Cyril something from Baylor and
Gabe Jackson from Mississippi ( he looked the best of the three) but I ignore GMCliff’s likes because none of those players would fit the quick pace offense that Chip Kelly likes which is all I really care about.
Robinson looks like a winner, good call PMan.

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 1:37 pm

That was me Eagles, talking about Botinio from Nevada
I really like this kid but I think he’s more of a Guard in the NFL
But he’s tough,great feet and versatile.. He helped himself a lot
Today and provably moved into a 2nd Rounder..
Kelly likes the long, athletic type of Players on his OL&DL and every position for that matter. Botinio is 6-3 1/2″ at tops, which is why I am not sure about him at spat in the NFL.. But at RT or Guard, I think he can be a stud ..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 2:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Hey…..back off! The Eagles taking an OT with their 1st round pick is my territory!

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 1:15 pm

TE about to take the field at Indy Combine
I like Amaro,Kenkins,Crockett & Evans

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 1:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

2 TE’s while I really are M Jensen from Fresno State
And Crockett Gillmore from Colorado State as 4th5th Round Rd picks

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 22, 2014 1:27 pm

Colt Lyerla just ran a sub 4.5. 4.47. Is he worth a late round high risk reward pick? If his interview went well, I’d take a shot. He said he’s interested in being an Eagle because he’d like to be wth Chip.

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 1:41 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

A 2nd/3Rd Talent is Lyerly,
Had off the field issues (arrested for cocaine)
Suspended by Oregon, actually quit the Team for a while,
But Kelly recruited him, knows him well and would be a steal
In the 6th if his head is on straight despite the red flags about him .

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 3:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

They’re going to be all over Lyerly.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 3:38 pm

But then so will TMZ, the Penn state police, Philly’s finest and Jesse Ventura….so probably better to stay away.

andrew p
andrew p
February 22, 2014 2:18 pm

Guys, why are you talking about TEs as if we might draft one? If the Eagles get rid of James Casy their going to bring back Clay Harbor, I think him and Ertz would do major damage in our system.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 2:55 pm
Reply to  andrew p

We’re talking TEs because the Eagles are going to draft one.

Some of you guys are going to LOSE IT when the Eagles go OT, TE, WR (in some order) over the first 3 rounds of the draft.

andrew p
andrew p
February 22, 2014 4:32 pm

I’ll bet anything u want if they draft a TE its at the last two rounds. No way their taking a OT with the first pick back to back years, if they don’t draft a safety in the first two rounds that means their picking a couple up in free agency, If your going to sit here and buy into the theory their going to draft the best available regardless of position and leave gaping holes on the D which even Howie admitted then you don’t have a clue.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 4:55 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I guess you’re one of the guys who’s going to be upset then.

andrew p
andrew p
February 22, 2014 5:45 pm

Upset about what? Howie has Tom Donahue who built the Steelers D for Cower and Tom Gamble who helped built that 49er D, You really think everyone is gonna agree to take a OL with the first pick with all those holes on D? If you believe that I have some good swamp for sale in Florida. What they do in free agency will tell us what they do in the draft.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 6:55 pm
Reply to  andrew p

They had those guys last year too.

Look, its simple, O players take longer to develop in the NFL than D players do.

Oh course they know they have holes on D…they also know that they have holes coming down the line at (either) RT or LT and RG, plus holes at WR after the season with Maclin on a probable 1 year deal, and Desean really starting to whine about $$. Not to forget Celek, who;s really just average and will be 30 after the season.

Again, as it takes Olinemen and WRs 2-3 years before they’re any good, taking themnow makes more sense.

Is D the more “immediate” concern? Yes. But that’s not how you build a team, that;s how you continually chase your tail.

This is a long term project. O for the second str8 year, then D the following draft.

Add to that….Kelly loves his O.

All I’m saying is, don’t be upset when the Birds use their early picks on the offensive side of the ball.

andrew p
andrew p
February 22, 2014 11:34 pm

So your saying they should focus on the needs their going to have down the line then the needs they have right now? Bro, that don’t make no sense.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 22, 2014 3:28 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Value!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 22, 2014 3:08 pm

And I’m rooting for Dakota Dozier, because he’d have the best nickname for an offensive lineman in a rushing attack. 🙂

frankdialogue
February 22, 2014 7:12 pm

Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.

Cooper is top notch.

And Maclin: Foles won his first game as Birds QB when he hit Maclin for a TD against Tampa in 2012: Sign them both.

DonP
DonP
February 22, 2014 7:14 pm

Vinny i got to give it 2 u youre a funny guy they aint draftin no offense first they buildin the d after they saw that d dismantle best qb and o in sb they got their eyes opened bigtime like lotta other teams which really shouldnt have been such a surprise really cause great defense always puts the o away look at it this way its just u and7 guys keep tryin to jugg u up u think u winning that fight dont think so hey u should ask tom brady who would win that fight hehe

frankdialogue
February 22, 2014 7:20 pm

BTW, Bowdin would be a nice 1 year pickup but the Eagles might be better served by picking up a kid in the draft.

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 9:12 pm

Reports from SF is that 49ers are close to resigning A Bokdin and I doubt very much after moving around the last few years
That he doesn’t want to finish his Career with the 49ers..
He fits their system Perfect and wants another Super Bowl
Why leave a good Team, unless the difference in $$$ was substantial
Which unlikely for him at his state of his Career..

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 9:26 pm

** Paulmans New Trade Rumor**
Eagles Trade #22, their 2nd Round Pick & RB Bryce Brown
To the Tennesee Titans for their 1st Rounder
(#11 Overall)

Eagles then Draft OT Tyler Lewan from Michigan

Eagles then announce Trade of Eagles LT
Jason Peters to the Atlanta Falcons for their
2nd Rd Pick (#38th Overall) and the Falcons
3rd or 4th Rounder in 2015..

Eagles Draft at #38, OLB Keith Van Noy

After the dust settles,
The Eagles get a LT in Lewan for the next 10 Years
An OLB in Van Noy who can do everything
For basically swapping around Picks and trading Peters
(Whose will be in his Final Contract Year) and Back-Up
RB Brown who just doesn’t fit Kelkys system all that well anyways

GM arisen an is hailed as the “Boy Wonder”
By his NFL peers
Titans get additional Picks during their rebuilding
And zrB Brown to help take carries done Chris Johnson will be released
For Salary Cap Reasons and the Falcons get their LT to protect Their $100 Million QB in Matt Ryan
Everyone makes out in these Deals

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 22, 2014 9:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

Theyre gonna target Van Noy regardless in my opinion.. Chip loves guys with versatility.. dude can ball…

Theyre not going to trade Peters.. Olinemen don’t get traded lol And hes the last guy you should look to trade

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 10:54 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

You don’t think a Trade to obtain the next LT (Lewan) to replace an aging high salaried Player who will leave the Eagles in Free-Agency after
2014 is a good deal JH… And LB Van Noyvwill not last until
eagles Current 2nd Round Selection of #54 and neither will LB Attachou which is why a Trade of Peters to obtain an early 2nd Rounder from the Falcons would be needed
Stick with B-Ball my friend…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:32 pm
Reply to  paulman

Attoachu, should be drafted early in the 2nd Round – We’ve GOT to have him Paul. We need as much Pass Rush as possible, in house for the future…..By not Van Noy please…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:35 pm
Reply to  paulman

I wouldn’t trade up to get Lewan either Paul –

You had it nailed on Greg Robinson Bruh – I was wrong, he is a beast –

I’m not embarrassed to tell you that – Good Job
Props to you Paul, but that is who you trade up for Brother…..

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 11:28 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Thnz Cliff,
Unfortunately I think too many Teams with the
Top 5 Selections love Robinson potential also and
don’t think they will pass or trade their Pick

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 1:22 am
Reply to  paulman

Stick to bball huh paul?! Looks like you were wrong wrong wrong again, wrongman! hahaa JH does it again…

JH knows his stuff, don’t question me man.

Trade Jason Peters huh paul? Yeah trade the best most dominate and physically imposing player on our team since Reggie White, for a random unproven rookie..

This guy Peters may go down as one of the best Tackles to play this game after its all said and done..

This is a different eagles era here. They will resign guys over 30 that are worth it and that fit there culture moving forward..

And guys need to keep this in mind, the new conditioning schedule Chip has these guys on, the smoothies the sleep schedules among many other new things Chip brought..

This new conditioning schedule may have the power to extend careers too.. Maybe that’s an added factor to them resigning Peters at 32 yrs old..

But like I said, you don’t trade away your best player on your Oline and team, for what? Some draft picks and a rookie LT? The Eagles need to just keep adding talent, they have the base in place, just keep adding to it, don’t let guys go unnecessarily. Keep the nucleus in place..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:28 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

SMH…..You really don’t know talent…Van Noy is Matt McCoy

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:29 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I’m responding to JH Paul……

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 1:40 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I like Atrachou also Cliff, a little concerned about his pass-coverage ability though..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, he and Ealy are the same product…but they bring what we need……a potential killer Pass Rush….

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:27 pm
Reply to  paulman

LOL!!!!!!!

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 22, 2014 11:40 pm
Reply to  paulman

How does Bryce Brown not fit their system Paul?

If Shady was hurt he’d be the starter; He was 2nd string not 3rd string or Practice Squad…..I know you don’t think that highly of him, but you have to remove your heart from this, and use your head….

Your hang up was that he fumbled too much – He didn’t fumble once last year….now what?

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 11:30 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Brown doesn’t run discipline enough to take advantage of holes between the Tackles where most of Kelly’s running plays/scheme are to go thru
Brown has a huge tendancy to want to go outside to often his carries

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 4:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

that’s not true Bruh…

paulman
paulman
February 22, 2014 9:34 pm

Maybe the Eagles throw in DE Brandon Graham with the Peters
deal since they need a pass-rusher who plays in a 4-3 Schene that the Falcons run..
These moves also clear another $13 Million
From Eagles Salary Cap (Peters $10 million
And Graham $3 Million) as Eagles come next Off-Seasom will have to pony up some $$$ to extend Foles,Kendrick’s,Cox & Boykin

This is how you can continue to build your younger Core of Players by getting Value of older Pkayers who are not part of your future
Plans..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
February 23, 2014 5:13 am

I’m more interested in seeing what QB Chip brings in.

That will speak volumes to what Chip really feels about Foles.

If he bring in some stiff with no pedigree then that tells us Chip thinks Foles is the future, but things will really heat up if Chip gets himself an athletic read option QB with a strong arm.

I’m keeping my eyes on it.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 11:51 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

It doesn’t matter,per Howie Roseman at the combine presser, “there is not an opportunity for a starting spot here” referring to QB position. CSN Philly February 21, 2014….. LOL prepare to have your hopes dashed …then go back to root for the Redskins fraud!

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 12:54 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

There is no QB in Free-Agency or in this Draft
That is going to compete for the Eagles Stsrting QB
Position which belongs to Foles
The best one out in Free-Agency is probably Vick and he already
Lost his starters spot to Foles.. So it’s a moot point
They will bring in a Body to compete with Barkley/Kinnie
For reps at Camp and look to address the Future QB depth
Next off-season, way too many other positions to address
For the Eagles than worrying about QB
Foles is the man, if he gets injured, then the Eagles are just like
The Seahawks, Pats,Broncos,Giants, Packers,Falcons,Panthers,
Ravens,Steelers,Chiefs,Saints,49ers,Chargers,Colts as far as who the Back-Up will be
And just like all these Teams I’ve mentioned
If any of their Starting QB’s goes down, then they all are in trouble

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 1:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, you know there are just some clowns on here who can’t deal in the real world and don’t know how to let things go, even when it’s over!

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 1:51 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Yes Eagles, I should know better than to even wasting my time responding to Songs for he has his own “agenda” and won’t be satisfied until the Eagles have the next great “Black QB”
As if that should make any difference at all, but to him
It apparently does was is assanine..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 7:27 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Good point Songs…that’s what i’m looking for too! The Eagles might try to position themselves for a blockbuster move! If there is anyway possible to bust a move and make a bold grab for Johnny Manziel…that’s the move to make!

daggolden
daggolden
February 23, 2014 5:56 am

Well reality is setting in. Its looking more and more like Ward or Bryd wont make it to FA. I keep telling you tell Boykins to put on 5-8 lbs to get him up to 195lbs and move to FS then draft a slot corner. Theres your ball hawking FS. Bryd isn’t great around the LS hes just asked to play centerfield and that’s what Boykins could do. Then Boykins wouldn’t have to come off the field 50% of the plays. Eagle fans have been brainwashed once again with the Eagles saying Boykins need to stay in the slot. Who exactly are all these “great” slot receivers he must cover? Im hard pressed to name 5 great slot receivers in the NFL.

daggolden
daggolden
February 23, 2014 6:03 am
Reply to  daggolden

You just cant convince me that Boykins and his 6ints is more important playing a Santa Moss 50% of the plays in the slot is a better defense than him playing centerfield at FS for 100% of the plays. It just don’t add up. Now if he just physically or mentally cant do that Im ok with that. But damn if honeybadger can do it I would definitely try it in OTAs a TC.

daggolden
daggolden
February 23, 2014 6:09 am
Reply to  daggolden

I sure in the hell don’t hear teams panicking over finding a 3rd cornerback. But I do hear 15 teams in the league desperate in finding a ballhawking safety. You tell me which one is more important. My goodness. Bryd and Ward are being sought after by 15 teams. I sure don’t hear teams talking about we have to sign a 3rd friggin corner to cover the slot.

daggolden
daggolden
February 23, 2014 6:19 am
Reply to  daggolden

I would move Boykins all over the defense just like honeybadger. He would come down at times and cover the slot, he would blitz off the edge, he would play ceneterfield. Noway in hell should Boykins be covering just the Jason Avants, Cole Beaslys and Santana Mosses of the world 50% of the time then leaving the field while the Nate Allens and Chungs play the whole game.

daggolden
daggolden
February 23, 2014 6:36 am
Reply to  daggolden

You then do everything you can to bring in Donte Whitner. Then my secondary has Williams at CB, Boykins FS, Whitner SS and Fletcher at the other corner. Tell me you don’t like that secondary. That fucking secondary is comparable to Seattles. Then get a stud pass rusher in the draft if possible.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 1:00 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Whitner on wrong side of 30,
There’s no way Eagles take a look at him as he will command more $$$ than Eagkes are willing to pay for a Stop-Gap płayercwhich they learned in signing Soapaga, K Phhilips & P Chung last year
They will go with Youth at Safety in the a Draft and being back Bate Allen and a 2nd Tier Strobg Safety to replace Chung
(Bethea or a Inhebigo type)

DCar
DCar
February 24, 2014 6:24 am
Reply to  daggolden

Comparable to Seattle’s? dag, stop snorting bath salts!

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:12 pm
Reply to  DCar

HABAPWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

DonP
DonP
February 23, 2014 8:31 am

u all smokin what cigar smokes hehe yea the nate allens and patrick chungs play whole game they gonna be gonna be gone like yesterdays news we should get both tj ward and jarius byrd blow everyones minds!oh pman i like your scenario wish it was real

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 23, 2014 9:48 am

Im hearing that one of my picks Odell Beckman Jr ran a 4.40 unofficial… dude is a blazer

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 10:09 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

JH….Odell ran a 4.31 in his second 40. I don’t think the Eagles will take him though. I think they are looking for more size. They already have Desean with simular stature (height wise) and speed and will probably bring Maclin back.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

I looked back at my notes of posters that responded to my challenge, and funny I didn’t, see one response of a list of players from Jon Hart….

This is exactly why I challenged those list be given before the Combine, because some guys want to pretend that they’re smarter than they really are based upon the performances of these players at the combine – when they have no clue as to what their real talents are..

He was never one of your guys. I have no list from Jon Hart. Straight Phoney

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 11:34 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Yes…the lists are going to come back to haunt some people. Lol!

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 4:14 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

It separates the men from the boys Eagle……..

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 23, 2014 6:11 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff, JH never put out a list but he has had conversations with me about a month ago where he raved about Beckham so he was on Beckham and Benjamin. You can give him that one.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 24, 2014 8:30 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Thanks BigL. I see cliff is still up to his desperate ways haha..

I don’t give out lists of guys, who has time for that. I ll throw out a few guys I liked in college here or there but wont make mock draft boards because I have no time to devote to that..

I mentioned Kelvin Benjamin and Odell Beckman jr. Both will be good players at the next level. Beckman actually has good versatility, you could line him up as a TE or WR, I would love for the birds to draft him..

Also mentioned Kyle Van Noy like a year ago and recently. I like his versatility at LB. hes around 6’3 245 and can be moved all along the LB spots. I like his projection to the next level and I want the birds to draft him..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 10:29 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

What do you mean by desperate?

You provide no challenge to me JH…I TOLD YOU DON’T FLATTER YOURSELF…..No one takes you seriously. No offense but your shooting blanks at me….

Everyone that participated had time to write their list. Those who weren’t cowards – that is not you JH, but someone else – but you need to relax with that mouth…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 25, 2014 12:00 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff, a challenge? Wtheck are you talking about? You commented under my post saying crap about me not putting a list out. No offense but screw your list cliff. Its not important to me nor is this site, I come on here for entertainment purposes. So like I said, I shoot names out here and there, I dont repeat the names over and over like you paul and some others to receive the acknowledgement and praise if the guy is a player down the road. Screw that , I just dont need it bro..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 25, 2014 12:07 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

And when I say desperate I mean your looking for a flaw in my point of view. We just don’t share the same opinion about prospects buddy. Its no challenge or battle of any sort on my end. You have your opinion and I certainly have mine. We ll see what guys pan out in the end..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:40 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

I’m not paying any attention to you Jon..LOL!!!!!

Your opinion doesn’t concern me. Why do you think I take you seriously as a talent evaluator? NO I DON’T

I told you…I see that you take things for granted, thinking the college amateurs, are already better than the pros. then you talk up guys destined for failure……

SCREW MY LIST??? LOL!!! Okay, Guarantee you I won’t miss you……..LOL!!!!!! He thinks I take him seriously DCar…..LOL!!!!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 25, 2014 10:04 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Anyone that puts “gm” before his first name on a site run by someone else, not affiliated with you at all (nor are you actually a general manager of any sort haha), screams of someone that’s arrogant/pompous, stuck on their view point, unyielding, unable to adjust their original thought on a player even when the proof smacks them in the face. Case and point Russell Wilson, haha.. Cliff you said that you “still wasn’t sold on Wilson” after he won the SB hahahaa That’s all I needed to hear..

Learn to make adjustments to your viewpoint Clifford, esp when your proven wrong..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 25, 2014 10:13 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

And more desperate behavior from you cliff, calling dcar into the discussion when he has nothing to do with this. Hes more clueless then you. His rants and cursing and nonsense is all entertainment and hes laughed at and cant be taken seriously.

You have to call mr porter to come into this discussion because you cant finish it? I wasn’t challenging you but don’t think I wont. Id challenge anyone on here and Id call them out as well.

Cliff your not an actual gm, get your life together man.. sheesh

DCar
DCar
February 26, 2014 3:02 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I’m clueless, & laughed at???? Son, you need to get your head examined! Seriously! You are absolutely, mindbogglingly, senseless, & an embarrassment, & you are on here hypocritically calling other people, everything that you are. “someone that’s arrogant/pompous, stuck on their view point, unyielding, unable to adjust their original thought on a player even when the proof smacks them in the face.” That right there, is the most delusional, hypocritical statement, that I’ve ever heard on here. What a joke of a man you are!

rootdown
rootdown
February 26, 2014 3:22 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Thank you Kindly for the mints, cologne and mouthwash at the club last night DCar!

DCar
DCar
February 26, 2014 3:32 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Hey rootdown, I mean Jon Hart, go back in the bog you came from, turd! Let the big boys talk, & go wash your little one inch killer!

DCar
DCar
February 26, 2014 3:35 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

What club were you at, the Gay bar up town? That’s all you lil sis! I know you are strictly dickly, but I don’t play for that team. I like fur burgers, not sausage, kielbasa, or hot dogs like you, punk boy!

rootdown
rootdown
February 26, 2014 3:47 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Don’t be shy DnoCar. It was the bar where you are the bathroom attendant from 8PM – 2AM, the bathroom cleaner from 2AM-5AM and the dishes from 12:-00PM to 8:00PM.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 26, 2014 5:43 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Yes JH, I still stand by my evaluation of Russell Wilson. and just to be clear…But even if he becomes a great QB,,he would still be 1 out of hundreds

The SEATTLE SEAHAWKS TEAM, won the Super Bowl – The Defense to be specific – Not Russell Wilson

Continue to flatter yourself.. No one else – except E0S – believes your more knowledgeable than me, and you know it….LOL!! you are funny…

DCar
DCar
February 27, 2014 12:19 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Riiiiiight! You are a funny lil girl rootdown. I don’t think so. I have 2 cars buddy. What do you take Septa, with the rest of the heathens? Nice try! Like I said, go back beneath the the sludge, in the bog you came from.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 12:39 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Dcar, Im not rootdown dummy. Like I said before , you may think your well liked on here but your not. Your obnoxious. Now get the scrubbing bum.. haha

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 12:42 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Hahaha good stuff rootdown, you got me dying laughing lol I didn’t see this until now hahahaa

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 12:50 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Cliff, I must be talking to a wall. Do you must wanna challenge me or something? Your boring the heck outta me man haha seriously…

Go post a new mock draft or something because your a yawn…

Check this out, you feel how you do about prospects and I have my own opinion..

You’ll see soon that your way off..

DCar
DCar
February 27, 2014 1:42 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

No, you probably ain’t rootdown, but you just as stupid, retarded, clueless, & out to lunch as he is. I’m obnoxious? Dude, you are the most nauseating, delusional, obnoxious retard on here. Again, hypocrisy at it’s finest! BTW, do you think I give a f^#@, if you, or anybody else on here likes me? I couldn’t give a f^#@, any less! I’m losing sleep right now. I can guarantee you one thing, I bet you, more people agree with me, & like me more than your stupid @$$! Not that, that ranks in the top million things that bother me. You’re the one that looks for support from people, to latch onto. You are an attention seeking, duffus! Please son, don’t make me giggle. I may be critical, & on the negative side, but I’m smart, I live in reality, know WTF I’m talking about, & don’t live in a world of delusions, lies, & BS like you do. Thanks for the laugh, Court Jester! Why you still up anyways, don’t you have to get up early, so your Mommy can take you to day care? Keep continuing to be a retard, & you’ll be treated accordingly.

DCar
DCar
February 27, 2014 1:48 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

“Do you must wanna challenge me or something?”
Brilliant sentence structure, & vocabulary. But, you come on to rip others intelligence. I see you chose the Book of Ebonics, over the Hooked on Phonics! Now, get to washing your one inch killer, & go to bed with your nightlight on, & your blanky! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 1:59 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Go scrub my toilets dcar, on the 5th floor. Then go on the balcony and jump off.. haha

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 27, 2014 2:23 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

If you were smart, you would let others call you smart instead of calling yourself smart.. Now we know that no one ever calls you smart haha slow poke.. And stop using my line “live in reality” Ive been saying that on here for years, stop robbing words dcar

Oh and btw what is this smart guy “out to lunch as he is”??? And what is a “duffus”

Yeah and your smart right? Its dufus, DUFUS!!!

And what support do I seek? Im a one man army, I steamroll any and everybody that comes in my way including your broke lifeless ass.

Your at work more than your at home with your family haha.. Your on here more than you spend time with your kids and wife ahahahaa.. Go get a clue dcar..

JH isn’t going anywhere and I will continue to be me on here. And you continue to be the reject maniac that you are. Commenting on all my post like a desperate little child.

45 year old man talking like a middle school kid, hahaa So pathetic

DCar
DCar
February 27, 2014 5:51 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Look in the mirror fag, lil punk. You know nothing about my family, & how much time I spend with them. All my kids are either grown, &/or in school, & I spend plenty of time & $$$$ on my Beautiful Wife. I’m on here a couple hours a day, max. I ain’t on here, all hours of the day like you, you hypocrite no life loser, thinking I’m a wannabe, intrepid reporter, breaking stories. Look up duffus, you retard, it’s an urban word for a vagina, or uncircumcised penis! Both which you are. You also are a dufus, the noun for doofus, a stupid @$$ person! You are all of the above. You couldn’t scratch the surface of my intelligence, dweeb! One man army? LOL! You steamrolled who? LOL! You are much more delusional, irrational, & insane than I thought. Telling me to get a life, spend time with my family. Coming from the loser who doesn’t have neither. Have you even gotten your doink wet yet? How’s your blowup doll girlfriends, fantasy sources, & your friends in your head, you dirtbag? You are nothing but a simple minded, lowlife hypocrite, that is nothing more than a bad joke on here. Everybody comments on how much of a retard you are! Don’t waste my time son, you ain’t worth the time.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 28, 2014 9:40 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

You’re not a challenge….and if, and when, I prove you wrong you won’t admit it….

Just like you won’t admit to all of us your so called source is the internet…We hear complete silence in reference to that answer.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 28, 2014 10:29 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Yaaaawn… Zzz…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 10:04 am

Cliff….My guy, Martavis Bryant ran a 4.34 on his first 40, and a 4.35 on his second. I told you he was going to run in the 4.3-4.4 range. You said he would be a 6 round pick because he would run a 4.6 because your guy from Walter football said that he would. I told you, if you watched him, you knew he was a 4.3-4.4 guy. When you want to know about track or just speed projections period, come check me out. The guy from Walters has knowledge, but no insight when it comes to projecting speed because Martavis was clearly a 4.3-4.4 guy on the field of play.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 10:41 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I never said he would be a 6th Round pick Eagle. I said he was being mocked later than when you said he would be drafted….Please Good Brother, don’t get like Jon Hart, putting words in my mouth..

That’s great to hear though, but, my question would be can he translate all that speed into his play? I’m all for the Birds drafting a WR, I just don’t think we need one in the first round. If he is the guy so be it.

But Stephen Hill, burned up the Combine as well – for me I need to see more than just speed, and so do you…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 10:55 am
Reply to  gmcliff

If you say you did not say that..I’ll take you at your word, I thought you did though. He is not a first round guy. He will go either 2 or 3. For me, it’s just about who is going to be on the board. If the guy I want on offense is there, but the guy I want on defense is gone, then I have to take the guy on offense. I do believe defense needs to be priority, but at the end of the day it just depends on who is available.I definitely need to see more than speed. I’ve been satisfied with what I’ve seen Bryant do on the field, are there parts of his game that needs to be worked on..of course, but that comes with time, coaching and experience.
I think Stephen Hill has not been helped by the situation he is in with his QB’s and other factors. I also do not know about his work ethic, whereI know Bryant’s work ethic improved greatly this past year as heshowed a lot of maturity this past season.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 10:59 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Stephen Hill is a bust, a combine warrior mistake. I’ve never knocked Bryant, I just don’t fall in love with guys just because their forty time is nice.

Richard Sherman ran a – 4.6 40……Did mean he couldn’t play, or was less talented that the guys that ran faster times….

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 11:32 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I agree with you, Larry Fitzgerald ran a 4.65 and ….well we know how tight his game is. 40 times certainly do not make the player as it is only a piece of the whole.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 4:10 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Exactly Eagle,,,,

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 23, 2014 11:27 am

Paulman only thing wrong with your trade is let’s say Barr or Mack is still there @11 who do you take then. I’ve always said they should trade peters you know the eagles are not gonna sign him to an extension so get something for him better than letting him walk for nothing.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 1:03 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

If you going to make the Deal (With Peters)
Then you have to take his replacement
If your not trading Peters and you make a deal with Titans
For the 11th Overall pick, then you take
Mack first & Barr if Mack was gone..

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 1:23 pm

This is all I have to say about the 40 Time
There is a huge difference of straight-line speed and route running and
Running in and thru traffic
Look at Jerry Rice’s 40 Time when he came out,
Yet whenever he caught the ball (which was 99% of the time)
And made a move into the open field, no one ever caught him behind
Pure speed is relative, it’s changing directions, running they traffic, running thru traffic and #1 catching the ball to begin with which seperared the Goid ones from the great ones, who has body control, who leaps at the proper times and snatch’s the ball at the apex of the pass, who can shield their bodies or use their size & strength (Boldin, Calvin Johnson,Fitz)
Or their quickness to turn upfield and change direction on a fine
(Welker, Etc)
I don’t get all worked up or impressed with straight line speed for Football is rarely played like a track meet, is it good to have, absolutely, but you have to know how to use it properly in all facets of the game
I stated then and now that Stephen Hill was a 1 Route Receiver
And was not worthy of a 1st Round Pick.. He can’t run any route but the fly route in the NFL

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 2:42 pm

Dri Archer, who I like as a return specialist just ran a 4.29.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 23, 2014 3:14 pm

Has anybody ever thought that just maybe Stephen hill isn’t good cause he doesn’t have a Qb there at all just sAying…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 3:27 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Uh…yeah. I stated that to Cliff. Coaching isn’t that great either.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 4:44 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

A Hill was a 1 Teick Pony at Georgia Tech which runs the Triple Option
And only passes 15 Times a game runs the Fly route 75% of the time after sucking in Secondaries in with run,run,runs..

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 4:40 pm

GMCliff,
I really like this RB Terrance West from Towson
What’s your thoughts on him,
Probably a 6th Rounder.. Built like a train and likes to run inside
Between the Tackles but has a good wiggle to break to the outside
And some wheels on him as good hands and not afraid of contact
. I think he will make a solid NFL RB
Even as a back-up..

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 4:51 pm

This WR Jeff Janis from Saginaw Michigan State that I have mentioned a few times had a greatcworkout today and is faster than I thought
He provably moved up from a 5th/6th Rounder to a 4th Round Prospect
Keep an eye on this kid..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 6:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

I beat you to Jeff Janis Paul, as I mentioned him a loooong time ago.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 6:46 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Yes you did Eagles,
He’s a good looking Prospect and will help whatever Team grabs him
I’m rooting for the guy.. Maybe the aeagkes will grab him in the 4th/5th

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 6:48 pm
Reply to  paulman

Good Call by the way Eagles

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 7:05 pm
Reply to  paulman

Thank you!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 7:06 pm
Reply to  paulman

I can actually see a team like Green Bay or New England taking him and turning him into a very productive wide out.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 7:16 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He would be a good fit at either Team who both have needs at WRxas so the Browns with all those picks in the first 4 Rounds

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 23, 2014 6:25 pm

So Benjamin at 240 ran a 4.53 and a 4.57. At his size and catch radius if he’s there at 22 you take him period.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 7:04 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

If Pryor isn’t there, I agree with you big.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 7:10 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I still want Pyor at #22
If Eagles Re-Sign Maclin or Cooper or both
They really don’t have a oressibg need at WR
For 2014.. Safety needs to be addressed once and for all and Pryor can be Day 1 Starter for the next 8-10 Years
Eagles can grab many other WR’s in Rds 3/4/5
Who can develop for a year or two
The Safet Position cannot rely on mid/late arounmd Picks if they expect to Ddfend against the big boys of the NFC

armyprince
armyprince
February 23, 2014 7:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

You think we address needs in FA therefore go BPA? Not talking Byrd or Ward but like Clemmons and grab maybe another safety high if BPA. If not I believe a WR will be the BPA by time we pick.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 7:23 pm
Reply to  armyprince

I see Eagles doing very little in Free-Agency
Outside of DT, then maybe a 2nd Tier Player or two at LB & Safety
They will not pursue big $$$/Starter Types
Renember they have approx $20 Million in Cap Soace but do
Have Cedric Thornton, possibly Maclin/Coooer
And Nate Alken/Colt Anderson plus nayge a Veteran Back-Up QB behind Fojes to address so that $20 Million
Could be cut in half real quick plus you have save some for a Draft a Picks plus some possible extensions for score Pkayers still under their Rookie a Deals like Boykin,Kendrick’s, Kelce,Cox & Foles to start planning for …

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 23, 2014 8:06 pm
Reply to  paulman

The way Howie has been talking….I’m not expecting them to do anything major. He’s been saying that they are not going to be going after big ticket guys, but interim mid level guys. They want to get their main guys out of the draft and its going to take time to fill all the spaces through the up coming drafts in the next 2-3 years.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 7:35 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Kelvin Benjamin ran a 4.61 officially according to the NFL website. He looks like a TE hybrid like Dallas Clarke, Shannon Sharpe, Jimmy Graham, Julius Thomas, Aaron Hernandez. He is worth the #22 pick. That guy looks like a double digit TD guy.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 23, 2014 8:58 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

he ran 4.62 officially – you don’t draft him at #22

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 9:24 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

you don’t think he is worth the 22 overall pick? He looks like a TD machine in the red zone. He is going to put on about 25 lbs easily.
I would go Notre Dame at 22 -OL Zack Martin or DE Stephon Tuitt as a five tech DE

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 10:01 pm

I am not very high on Benjamin
I believe he would have been better served staying at Florida State and play another Season of College Ball, work on his route running, hands, blocking, etc and play with QB Winston another season and then he could have been a Top 10 Pick in 2015 Draft
I just don’t think he can get sepearate on from NFL CB’s and doesn’t quite know how to use his size yet.. Reminds a little of a Sydney Rice who was more polished coming out of College and still never learned to become an elite NFL Receiver
I stay away from Benjamin at #22 at all costs
He will be a 2-3 year Project and provably end up a good Player, but at #22, Eagles need a Stsrter on Defense right away who can make an impact like Safety Pryor or Ha Dix or CB Marcus Roberson
Or a strong Rotational DL like Hagenan
Or even a situational good Pass-Rusher (Dee Ford)

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 23, 2014 11:38 pm
Reply to  paulman

Nothing like Sydney Rice, but at 22 you want a player not a situational type player.

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 23, 2014 11:42 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff you know we differ on Benjamin and I know your not saying don’t draft him because of a 40 time? your a football guy I know you know better.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 12:34 am
Reply to  Biglion821

No, Biggie of course not…I think it is important to get our playmaking impact on Defense; I don’t think it’s necessary to draft a WR, in the first 2 Rounds. We have to fix the Defense in Free Agency, and early in the Draft.

Some misunderstand my stance on players. I like a lot of these prospects but not as much as I like:

The thought of Kony Ealy, and Jeremiah Attaochu, coming off the edge rushing the QB, or Andrew Jackson knocking the snot out of someone coming up the middle.

Kyle Fuller, Deone Buchannon, Stanley Jean Baptiste, and Walt Aikens, shutting down a high powered Offense – which compliments out Chip Kelly Offense – which leads to a chance at the SuperBowl….

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 7:40 pm

Allen Robinson’s 40 was disappointing at 4.60 but his vertical and broad jump numbers were very good so he does have explosive legs.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 8:13 pm

I didn’t watch the combine so I am just scanning the figures on the NFL website.
RB numbers that surprised me:
Tyler Gaffney from Stanford has some good numbers, I didn’t expect that.
Silas Read from USC I expected better numbers little disappointed.
Carlos Hyde from Ohio State 40 was slow. 4.66. ( that is mid round not first off the board)

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 10:28 pm

I think RB Gaffney has a similar game as
Bengals RB G Bernard.. He’s maybe not as shifty,
But bigger,stronger and should make a nice change of pace RB in the NFL
He had sone stud games at Stanford and was durable
And a workhorse carrying 25 times a game and has a knack for gettingvthose tought short yardage and red-zone runs into the end-zone
Which is not a need for the Eagles but the Colts,Browns, Giants,Dolphins,&
Possibly the Ravens with Ray Rice’s situation will take a good look at him
I see him as a 3rd/4th Rounder

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 8:20 pm

Jordan Matthews numbers from Vandy jump off the page. Where is he projected to go? He looks like a winner.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 8:56 pm

Jordan Matthews is Projected as a Mid 2nd To an Early
3rd Rounder (50th-70th Range)

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 9:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

sold!

DCar
DCar
February 24, 2014 6:34 am
Reply to  paulman

I’ve been hyping Matthews since the season. Can’t go wrong with a relative of Jerry Rice. Dude was a stud, even before the combine. He didn’t necessarily have good senior bowl week, that’s why no one raved about him. If you watch the tape, you’ll see, he’s quick, strong, gets YAC, & doesn’t drop balls. I’d love to get him in the 2nd, depending on what we get in FA, & the 1st round.

greenfan
greenfan
February 24, 2014 11:19 am

Agree E0S…Matthews is looking like a nice player that might still be there for the Birds. Great size (6’3″ 212) with some of the biggest hands of any reciever (10 3/8″) combined with All-SEC WR. He ran a 4.46 at the combine, and as DCar mentioned, he is a cousin of Jerry Rice. From reading up on him, he looks to be a pretty strong character guy too. Reminds me of Avant in his off the field background.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 23, 2014 8:32 pm

CJ Mosley,Hubbard, Attaochu, Christian Jones, Zumwalt, Dee Ford chickened out and didn’t lift today.
Anthony Barr 15 reps is low.
Trent Murphy 19 reps is low.
Michael Sams 14 reps is low.
Jackson Jeffcoat 18 is low.
These edge rushers need to get at least 20 reps.
Hageman 32 reps is good.
Tuitt 31 reps is good.

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 10:11 pm

I am realky intrigued by DT Hageman,
Some Scouts say he is one of most naturally strongest Players in this Draft
Some even say that he reminds them of a young Albert Haynesworth
when he came out with his body type & quick first step and long frame at
6-6″, 318 who will most likely be 330lbd by his 3rd Season in an
NFL Conditioning Program..
The question is his maturity & work ethic
I believe the Eagles will take a hard, long look at him and with 3-4 other high energy DL on the Team already and a no-nonsense DL Coach Jerry A.
I believe the Eagles would be a great landing spot for him
Word is the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens & Packers & Patriots are enamored with him as well
This a Draft is very thin at DL and especially at DT
If Hageman is there at #22, the Eagles will have to strongly consider taking him for there are still good Safety’s/LB’s/CB’s & WR’s that can be gad in the
2nd/3rd and 4th Rounds but very few DT’s to go around

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 7:29 am
Reply to  paulman

I like Hageman…it fulls a need!

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 3:16 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I would be happy with DT Ra’Shede Hageman with their 1st Pick at #22

paulman
paulman
February 23, 2014 10:21 pm

Eagles somehow need to get 2 more early Selections
1 more 2nd Rounder and 1 more 3rd Rounder in this Draft
They gave 2 5th around Picjs and maybe can package a 5th and a Brandon
Graham or Vinny Curry , Bryce. Brown or even a Brett Celek with these 5th Rounders and move up to the late 2nd or 3rd Rounds

Falcons need Pass Rushers & TE to replace Gonzales
Jets & Dolphins need a quality Starting TE
Browns & Colts could use a quality RB

Let’s say Eagles offer their 5th around Pick and Graham
To the Falcons for their 3rd around pick (#70th Overall)

And Offer the Jets/Dolphins TE Celek and a 5th Are Pick
For one of their 3rd Rounders..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 10:38 am
Reply to  paulman

I agree Paul…except with the trading of our best TE….

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 11:42 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Casey has no trade Value, Celek has the highest Value right now and ERTZ is the Future #1 TE..
I say Trade Celek and a 5th Round Pick and get a 3rd In Return
so that the Eagles can add more Talent to their Defense..

armyprince
armyprince
February 23, 2014 10:49 pm

P-Man I want Pryor or Dix but I think Pryor will still be there. Sign a veteran S and watch Wolff and Prior veteran safety duke it out

daggolden
daggolden
February 24, 2014 4:43 am

After watching the WR at the combine both Maclin and Cooper can go. This draft is loaded with WR just as good as either. The learning a new system means nothing because Cooper/Djax etc learned a new system last year and flourished so that point is moot. You just have to draft one of these studs in the 1st 3 rounds with minimal financial ramifications. You can then focus your financial resources on another postion. After watching the combine every FA WR lowered his head because there value plummeted.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 24, 2014 7:47 am
Reply to  daggolden

Dag…You have to be careful with rookies, savvy veterans will pick up a system faster than a rookie. You also have to concern yourself with the rookie wall, confidence, etc etc. You can resign one and draft another. I’m good with Kelvin Benjamin, Martavis Bryant, Jordan Mathews, or Donte Moncrief. I think it to be unwise to go into a season with two rookies and just one vet (DJAX).

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 7:25 am

wish list developing:
#22 OL Zach Martin Notre Dame if he is gone DE Stephon Tuitt ND
#54 WR Jordan Matthews Vandy
#86 S Dion Bailey Southern Cal

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 11:26 am

Paulman Wish List

1st – #22 Free Safety – Calvin Pryor (Louisville 6-2 210lbs)
2nd – #54 CB – Kyle Fuller (Va Tech 6-0 – 195lbs)
3rd – #86 OLB – Jeremiah Attachou (Ga Tech 6-3 252lbs)
4th – #118 Strong Safety – Terrance Brooks (Fla State 5-11 200lbs)
5th(A) #150 Guard – Brandon Thomas (CLemson 6-3 – 315lbs)
5th (B) #154 TE – Marcel Jenkins (Fresno State 6-6 – 260lbs)
7th – #214 WR – Cody Hoffman (BYU 6-4 – 225lbs)

After this Draft, ESPN Analysts Mel Kiper’s says he will shave his Hair for a Charity Fundraiser in honor of Paulman’s Draft Picks and calls him the
“GM Wanna-Be of 2014”

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:41 am
Reply to  paulman

Paul…I think Paul Richardson is the best WR, in this draft. My late round WR is Ryan Grant. What do you think Buddy?

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 12:09 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Let me check these Players out Cliff…
I am not familiar with either of them to be honest with you..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 12:56 pm
Reply to  paulman

Cool, I look forward to your opinion…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 12:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Ryan Grant is a jorden poyer late round type long shot, just not athletic enough.
Paul Richardson is a real thin, Todd Pinkston thin. He will have to put on weight and if he does does he lose his agility.

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 12:32 pm

Paul Richardson from COlorado is listed at 6-0′ – 175lbs and unless he has Return Skills, I am not so sure he fits in well as a Eagles WR
Chip Kelly already has his Small,Speed WR in D_Jax and we all know that the other WR’s must be physical and be good at Blocking downfield.. I would pass on Richardson who looks like a good NFL Prospect, but just not with this Eagles Scheme unless he can be that Return Man on Kick-offs/Punts and be that 5th/6th WR and replace D Johnson’s spot who is disappointed and failed to take advantage of his opportunites in 2 Seasons
R Grant has game, with more bulk and strength at 6-0′ – 199lbs
again, unless he can play Special Teams in the Return Game, Just not sure if he’s a good Fit for Kelly’s System though he looks like a good NFL Prospect
If Maclin is resigned, than the Eagles would have 3-4 WR’s all 6-0 and under (D-Jax,Avant & Maclin) and need to have at 2 least 2 WR’s with some size and physicality.. maybe Cooper is one of them, maybe not, but whoever they Draft should be that 6-2′-6-4″ and 215-225lbs range in my opinion and be able to play Physcial in the Red-Zone and teh Running Game for all we all know that is not
D-Jax,Maclin or Avant’s strengths…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:41 pm
Reply to  paulman

But we’re no looking for these guys to be impact this year. So they just have to continue to develop as pros….

The Return Game – we need Dri Archer in my opinion…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:42 am
Reply to  paulman

I also don’t think that Attaochu, not running at the Combine, moves him out of the second round.

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I believe Attaochu fallls to the 3rd Round..
OLB’s Ryan Shazier,Kyle Van Noy,Trevor Reilly,Carl Bradford
have all moved ahead of Attaochu are most likley 2nd Round Prospects

OLB Telvin Smith from Fla State is listed as a 2nd Round Propect
but is listed at 6-3′ & only 218 lbs which means there is little chance he can Play OLB at the NFL due to his lack of weight/strength and would just get gobbled up by NFL OL at the point of attack
Does he have the Athleticism to Play Strong Safety in the NFL, I am not sure.. but I just can’t see a 220lb LB playing in today’s NFL..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t think any of those prospects are better than Attaochu…especially Van Noy

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 1:16 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

They are all rated better by most NFL Scouts when taking in their All-Around Games…Attaochu is the better Pass-Rusher which is only a part of a LB’s repsonsibility, they must be able to Drop Back in PAss-COverages, Sheild BLockers and hold edfe in the RUnning game and Tackle well.. Attaochu is rated lower in these “categories” by most Scouts..
I think Trevor Reilly is the “Best All-Around OLB” (outside of Mack) in this Draft — If he’s sitting there at #54, I grab him if I am the Eagles.. Reilly has size (6-5″ – 245lbs) , Athleticism and Toughness.. Forced 3 Forced Fumbles, Had 4 Sacks, 6 Tackles for Losses and 70 Tackles overall and with his length, bats down balls and able to cover TE’s out in Pass-Coverages…
He did suffer a Knee Injury and had off-season surgery, but was not a torn ACL so not a major rehab. He does need to get Stronger which will occur being in any NFL Program and has the Frame to get to 255-258lbs in 2 Years time ..
He actually is a lot like Connor Barwin.. Not great in any particualr area, but very good in All-Around Play and Fundamentally sound..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 1:37 pm
Reply to  paulman

What scouts have said that Paul?? How many have you talked to personally?? Because that’s not true

That’s why you can’t always base opinions on scouts, or media evaluations – it’s really about personal taste – to each his own – Mine is different…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 1:38 pm
Reply to  paulman

If he’s like Connor Barwin, then I don’t want him…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 25, 2014 2:13 pm
Reply to  paulman

GMCliff – new mock drafts coming out tomorrow across internet NFL mock universe post combine, are you going to be adding/subtracting names to your impact list? Rush 3-4 OLB maybe isn’t the strength of this draft. You may be force feeding that position in your Impact list like someone last year trying to convince others that Geno, EJ or Barkley were good QBs.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:43 am
Reply to  paulman

When healthy, Kyle Fuller is the best CB in the draft…..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 10:29 am

ridiculous, I just saw Koly Ealy run the 40 and do combine drills in the underwear Olympics ( high five to ever came up with that name last year, funny stuff) he is not an OLB.
GMCliff stop writing stupid suggestions.
Ealy can be a decent DE but never in a million years is that guy a OLB or would anyone with a kindergarten education in football have ever suggested such an absurd suggestion with a first round pick.

DCar
DCar
February 24, 2014 10:37 am

Ealy is not fast, nor does he have the hips, nor change of direction, to be an ROLB. He’s a natural $-# DE. pauls boy Hageman, is a perfect 5 tech DE, like I sad. He is not NT. Mayock, Sapp, & McGinnus agree.

DCar
DCar
February 24, 2014 10:38 am
Reply to  DCar

*4-3*

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 24, 2014 10:51 am
Reply to  DCar

I knew Ealy did not have the ability or agility to play OLB. I could tell he was to stiff in the hips to flip and turn. He is and always will be a 4-3 DE. Can someone tell me how Dee Ford has performed. I Can’t watch it right now.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 24, 2014 10:57 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Never mind, I just saw he was advised not to participate due to a medical concern from a 2011 herniated disc surgery. That’s bad for his stock.

mhenski
mhenski
February 24, 2014 10:58 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Auburn DE Dee Ford has withdrawn from NFL Combine workouts for medical reasons.
According to the NFL Network, exams revealed an issue relating to a 2011 surgery Ford underwent for a herniated disc in his lower back. For now, it doesn’t look like a major red flag. The projected first-round pick says he feels fine and ESPN’s Louis Riddick hears doctors are just being “cautious.” Auburn’s pro day is scheduled for March 4.

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 11:50 am
Reply to  mhenski

Auburn’s Dee Ford will have a difficult time lasting in the NFL,
He’s quick as hell but at 6-3 245lbs, will take a beating from OT/OL
over Time.. I stay away as far as a I can from him at #22
Now a Situational Pass-Rusher who plays 15-20 Snaps a Game is a Need that Every Team has, but I look for those Players in the 3rd/4th Round and not in the 1st Round

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:01 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He does have the ability. That’s why they identified him as one that possibly could. All I want him to do is rush the QB from that position.

Thank you Eagle, for your criticism. I’d rather hear it from my guys that answered my Challenge, rather than someone who thinks they’ve got it figured out by combine performances, at the last minute…

I just ignore those frauds …..Keep expressing your objections..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 11:16 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I would have answered your challenge if you removed the restrictions of these are may guys and you can’t select them, they are all mine,mine, mine but you can select any of paulman’s guys because they are everyone’s, you just can’t select my guys.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:36 am

I am dead set against replying to you. But this will be the only exception, because trust me I am flat out ignoring any of your comments.

I never stated – ” they are all mine,mine, mine”….The challenge was for you to come up with your own player – with the exception of the ones I had already identified – Because to some my suggestions were unacceptable.

So, mostly, everyone on GCobb.com, gave theirs – you didn’t because you were afraid to be criticized, and called on the carpet – Not because you couldn’t identify players that I had already suggested…….and you know it..

or did you like some of the same players this clueless dingbat mocked. That can’t be, because that would make YOU an equally clueless dingbat…right ???

No – Your a coward……You didn’t want to stick your neck out like the rest of us right??…So, don’t want to hear crap from you.

Criticize to your hearts desire. I give less than a darn, and I will continue to ignore your meaningless heckling…….E0S is a nobody

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 11:45 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Brothers we all have fun with this. Nobody, including GMCliff, gets these prospect down 100%. But it does give some indication as to where we need to make adjustments in our evaluations, for suggestions for the Eagles…

Thank you to all that answered the Challenge…..:)

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 11:50 am
Reply to  gmcliff

especially GMCliff, there I fixed your reply. you’re welcome!
“Brothers we all have fun with this. Nobody, “”ESPECIALLY”” GMCliff, gets these prospect down 100%”

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 11:47 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Kony ealy is not all that GMCLiff has cranked him up to
He’s a good Player, but no Impact Player and definitely is no OLB
I’ve read 2-3 Scouts compare him to Trent Cole believe it or not..
I like DE’s Scott Critchcon from Oregon State, Marcus Smith from Louisville & Kareem Martin from North Carolina as PLayers with longer- term upside that Ealy who is a Pass-Rusher, but not very strong against the Run and is not mobile enough to play a 3-4 OLB and drop back in Pass-Coverages and at 6-4 275lbs, is not quite big enough to play DE
and is another Trent Cole, Brandon Graham & Vinny Curry in my opinion
Kelly wants long & lean DE’s with big wing spans..

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 12:26 pm
Reply to  paulman

We’ll see won’t we….

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 1:09 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Believe me Cliff.. I really like Kony Ealy’s game but think he’s best-suited for a standard 4-3 and really see the Bears, Cowboys,Giants taking a hard look at him.. I do not feel he’s a good fit in a 3-4 and is too similar to what the Eagles already have on their Roster (Cole,Graham & Curry)

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 1:16 pm
Reply to  paulman

He’s definitely that, but He is a good player. I like his ability to rush the QB, more than anything else. You know I value your opinion, so I really hope you aren’t offended when I say, I respectfully disagree. I think he can grow into that.

That’s why I want the Eagles to sign Jason Woirlds, to play Coles side, while he develops. Similar concerns with Attaochu, but again, I think he can also develop, while playing behind Barwin.

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 1:45 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I just don’t believe the Eagles, Kelly andDC B Davis want to continue to add 6-4 270lbs Players at De..
They are looing at 285-290lbs Players to Play the De..
the Pass-Rush is going to come for the LB’s and some quick hitting Siruational Pass-Rushers who play De in the 4-3 Pass-Rushing Scheeve,, Ealy is not an updgrade of what they already have at DE (Cole,Graham,Curry)
kelly keeps saying he wants bigger, longer Players and Ealy is just too much of what they already have in Philly as far as DE
goes

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:07 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Why?? He ran 00.8 seconds slower than Aldon Smith did….

Yet he’s more stouter against the run, and sets the edge better, although Aldon is slightly a better athlete….

JJ Watt ran a 4.91….I don’t put a lot of stock in the Combine. I watched him kick too many 10 ten players tails to write him off.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

and yet the older Cole was starting for us at OLB…

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

0.08…sory

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 10:53 am
Reply to  DCar

I disagree DCar…I don’t put a whole lot of stock in the Combine, but it does give an indication where he has to work. I haven’t wavered on Kony Ealy Brother…

DCar
DCar
February 24, 2014 1:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I don’t put much stock in the combine either gmc, but what I do watch is speed, change of direction, how stiff his hips are, & where he plants his feet on change of direction. He has hardly ever dropped in coverage, has feet for hands, & is a natural 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 ROLB. You don’t waste a first rounder, on a guy, that’s going to be a project at the position. You are as wrong on him, as much as you were right on Ansah last year. Didn’t you get enough with the square pegs, in round holes when the Hindenburg was here? Draft guys that you can plug & play. Enough with projects, & athletic freaks, that don’t fit. I for 1, am sick & tired of it! Now, if we draft Jeremiah Attaochu in the 2nd, that’s ok, because he’s better suited for 3-4 ROLB.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 4:45 pm
Reply to  DCar

DCar, Attaochu, and Ealy are basically the same player Bruh.

Some want the traditional OLB that drops in to coverage, but you don’t have to have that. They should be able to rush the passer first, and that’s what those guys do best….They don’t have to be a Clay Matthews type.

Both of them are players Bruh…. and we need pass rushers, and I think both of them can fit in our scheme…..

DCar
DCar
February 25, 2014 12:34 am
Reply to  gmcliff

We agree, to disagree on this gmc.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:45 am
Reply to  DCar

Fair enough Good Brother….Cheers!!

BTW, Your Boy JH, said I was desperate to discredit him…/?????
I’m not thinking about him…..what’s wrong with him?

DCar
DCar
February 25, 2014 3:49 am
Reply to  gmcliff

gmc, the boy is sick in the head, bruh! First of all, you have to have a good reputation, live in reality, be an honest person, & actually know WTF you are talking about, to be “discredited.” Dude is this sites King of the @$$clowns, & is a court jester. Nothing less, nothing more. I’m tired of his antics, & @$$clownery. He opened up the can of works a few years ago, when he started calling paul & myself names, & saying that we both were fraud fans, for telling the truth about the Sixers. Now all of a sudden, he’s reiterating, what we’ve been saying forever. With his over-exaggerations, fake sources, sucking on Lebron’s nuts, fairy tale acquisitions, retarded lack knowledge, & him unable to live in reality, I cannot tolerate, & I will continue to go out of my way, ad nauseam, to make a JO out him. Although I don’t even need to do so, because he does a great job doing it all by himself, I will do so out of principle. I know it’s a bit childish of me, & a bit redundant, but I have zero tolerance for stupidity, idiocy, & for some punk, hypocrite telling me, that I don’t know WTF I’m talking about. So, whether he likes it, or not, I will continue to troll on every stupid thing he says. I’ll await his dumb responses now, about me cleaning his toilets, picking up trash, or him calling me Mr. Porter, or Freddy Mitchell, or whatever other, senseless, meaningless, verbal diarrhea, that comes out of his Lebron’s knob gobbler!

DCar
DCar
February 25, 2014 3:57 am
Reply to  gmcliff

*worms*

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:44 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 24, 2014 2:06 pm

I need to ask this fellas, I really think the combine is horrible and has lead many a GM and coach to be fired because they fail to believe the tape and get caught up in this dog and pony show every year. The NFL gets too caught up in measurables and not enough game tape. Just another money maker for the NFL.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 2:15 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I wish they would let us watch the combine instead of puppet head hosts spewing about Manziel, Sams, Clowney, over and over and over again skipping the prospects doing combine drills. I would prefer they put Eisen and Mayock in a radio booth and never put a camera on them once.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 8:02 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Your right Biggie. That’s why the Combine isn’t a clear indication of a prospect actual ability….They may lack in some fundamentals, but that’s where coaching, and personal work comes in……

There is something called game speed. Football isn’t played like that all game. It’s also a game of angles. The tape is more important, and some GM’s get caught up in, an outsmart themselves……

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 24, 2014 2:10 pm

Example A Clowney running a 4.47 so now he goes back to being the number 1 pick? that 4.47 would be nice if he was a 266 pound TE but in the NFL you don’t get a 40 yard headstart to the QB. SMH

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 2:20 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I’m interested in seeing Clowney, what I’m not interested in is them interviewing Clowney while the combine is happening missing other prospects perform nor am I interested in seeing a camera on Dee Ford at all since he is not participating in the combine missing others who are performing.

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 2:35 pm

It’s become this way the last few years where teh NFL Channel and Hosts pick their Top 8-10 players to talk about and pretty much ignore 90% of all other Participates.. It just gets worse and worse each Season as far as Viewing it and hearing teh same stories about the same player over and over..

Let talk about the Top 10-15 at Each Postions, their Strengths & Weaknesses, What are Good Team & System Fits, etc,etc..

mhenski
mhenski
February 24, 2014 2:51 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

i dont think the texans are taking a qb @ #1. i think its clowney or the auburn tackle

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 4:13 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Could we see the Browns and Texans make a Deal..
Browns want a QB and have 2 1st Rounders plus 1 2nd, 2 3rds & 2 4th’s Round Selections and could want to make a deal with Texans to get their Top Choice at QB while the Texans get additional Picks and can still get a QB in the 2nd Round or go ahead and Play Casey Keenum for 2014 until Coach O’Brien figures out what to do down there..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 24, 2014 4:39 pm

**** Eagles News****

According to my source, Chip Kelly and the Philadelphia Eagles reps did indeed meet with Johnny Tackle Manziel during the combine. ***Confirmed***

My Thoughts: He’s the ideal type of QB Chip wants to run this offense in all its facets, including the zone read with the ability to take off and run for 10 or more yards..etc etc.. May not be able to move up to get him though so this could just be Chip and the rest of the Eagles reps doing there due diligence. But if and this is a strong if, Manziel slides to around 9-15, I see the Eagles moving up to draft him. I really like Nick too but that zone read option just isn’t there, for this offense to go 100% not 80-85% we need a QB that has the ability to run that… its incomplete until Chip brings that guy here..

SN: Again, I’m a Nick supporter I just can’t deny it

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 4:47 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

forget MANZIEL…….Just a circus like Tebow for some in denial, before he’s out of the league too…..He can’t touch Foles..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 24, 2014 5:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

it is easier to find a 7 foot tall hall of fame NBA center than find a QB under six feet tall just to start at QB in an NFL game. Maybe I’m naive and the rules as so soft now that tiny five foot QBs will be the norm now.
I’ll play the odds and pass on five footers at the QB position.

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 24, 2014 4:52 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

***EAGLES NEWS****
According to my source the eagles reps spoke to all of the players at the combine. Reports have them making a run at clowny if he drops to 9-15.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
February 24, 2014 4:55 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Haveaseat, ur the only clowny.. haha… its clowney genius

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 24, 2014 4:57 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I’ve seen you called out for spell check errors and you whine like a girl… Spelling aside my sources and report are every bit as credible as yours

antitrust32
antitrust32
February 24, 2014 5:40 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

the problem is, our offense worked a helluva lot better with someone who is slow, than it did when someone “who has all the tools Kelly looks for” (Vick) led the offense. We averaged more points, we were MUCH more efficient in the red zone, etc. While it was a lot of fun watching Johnny Football play college ball, I dont see him being any better than Vick was for the Eagles last year.

And we all know what Chip wants in a QB, he has stated it many times.. He wants repetitive accuracy and great decision making.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 7:32 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Bust a move!!! Johnny Manziel is exactly the move to make…you hit on the head Jon Hart…we need 100%

daggolden
daggolden
February 24, 2014 4:44 pm

Im hearing Malcolm Jenkins is the safety the Eagles are going after. Its gaining some steam according to reports.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 4:46 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Did I not call that Dag???

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
February 24, 2014 6:36 pm

Lol I been said that a people said I was nuts lol

paulman
paulman
February 24, 2014 7:27 pm

**NFL Rumor***
Eagles in Talks with the Oakland Raiders involving WR D-Jax & RB Bryce Brown for some Draft Picks from the Raiders… Sources stating Raiders are Offering a 2nd & 5th Round PIck in 2014 and a 4th Round Pick in 2015 Draft
GM Howie Roseman was overheard stating to a Front Office Staffer, “This WR Position is getting more Complicated by the Hour” ..
More Details as I come up with them….

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 24, 2014 7:56 pm
Reply to  paulman

No they’re not Paul…..DeJack is going no where for the 100th time

daggolden
daggolden
February 25, 2014 4:46 am

Eagles were one of the 5-6 teams that interviewed Johnny Manziel. I guess everyteam has a certain number of interviews they get at the combine“Manziel met with Houston (1), Jacksonville (3), Cleveland (4), Dallas (17), Tampa Bay (7) and Philadelphia coaches and team officials, and very likely Oakland (5), this weekend before flying back to Texas late Sunday afternoon,” King wrote. Before Eagle fans say the Eagles are doing there “due diligence”. whats the point? Why waste one of your interviews on a player you have no intention on taking? It makes no sense. GB, Miami, NO etc have franchise QBs and didn’t waste one of there interviews on someone they aren’t taking. Whats the point? They aren’t deceiving anyone my goodness. Im telling you unless Nick Foles takes the Eagles far next year and has another banner year that forces the Eagles to sign Foles to big contract Foles is not getting some mega deal. For some reason he just isn’t Chips guy. Fans just don’t want to believe it. Im not saying they are right but everything that comes out of Chips mouth says he isn’t his long term guy. Foles really has to play well this year. I know what Howie just said “We are all behind Nick in the organization”, which was his best endorsement to date but things like interviewing Manziel just makes you wonder. I know this post will be spinned a different way but I just don’t hear this type of shit coming out of places like Wash, Indy, Carolina, etc who all have young QBs.
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Biglion821
Biglion821
February 25, 2014 7:45 am
Reply to  daggolden

I think we all see that Dag, I don’t understand it but you are 100 percent right in this post.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 26, 2014 1:44 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Guarantee you the Eagles won’t attempt to draft Manziel, or any QB in the first 3 Rounds…..

I don’t have to wonder about a QB that will fail in the NFL….

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 7:57 am
Reply to  daggolden

Its a solid post, daggolden…and it calls attention to some things that are very obvious…anyone who listened carefully to Chip Kelly saw a coach who is not sold on Nick Foles…he sees the defects and he’s not buying into the stats that Foles piled up against bad teams. Manziel you see a QB with mobility, that ‘it’ factor that gives a team confidence…Manziel in a Chip Kelly, QB friendly offense would do wonders…
So all of the fools..umph..I mean Foles fans…listen well to Peter King…we have a really tough schedule against some tough defenses…Foles has to take the team far into the playoffs to get the big time contract…Chip just doesn’t believe in the guy…and I see why!

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 25, 2014 8:03 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

i see the cockroaches have come out from the cracks… pro bowl qb, playoff qb…. hmmm yet they want a 5 foot LOUD MOUTH, runt

antitrust32
antitrust32
February 25, 2014 9:40 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Not only did Howie say that they are all 100% behind Nick Foles… He also said that there is no opportunity for any other QB to start next season for the Eagles. He said he told Mike Vick he wouldnt even get the chance to compete for the starting spot in Philly because it belongs to Nick Foles. Foles isnt going anywhere, Chip should very much love Nick Foles cause they probably would have only won 6 or 7 games this year if it wasnt for Nick Foles taking over.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 25, 2014 11:11 am
Reply to  antitrust32

You are being generous. Eagles would have won 4 or 5 had they not had their very own Bart Scott moment.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 25, 2014 12:46 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

It makes too much sense Ciggy…So they want someone more popular – not more talented……..ridiculous

antitrust32
antitrust32
February 25, 2014 9:42 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

every time I read a post by koolbreeze I feel dumber.. It must kill you to see Nick Foles have so much success and support around the league.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 25, 2014 10:28 am
Reply to  antitrust32

That’s why I refrain from reading his posts now. He will follow the Jets after MV 7 goes there though. His time is limited here. He’ll pop up every now and then when he sees the letters QB. Other than that, he has nothing!

antitrust32
antitrust32
February 25, 2014 10:38 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I feel bad for Jets fans now!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 25, 2014 11:12 am
Reply to  antitrust32

Not going to be Jets, unless they dump MM who doesn’t like the superstar as a QB……My $$ is on Minny throwing their next 2 seasons away on MV7wins.

paulman
paulman
February 26, 2014 7:21 am

Tamp Bay is where Vick will land and compete and Win Starters Job over Mike Glennon
HC Coach Lovie Smith prefers Veterans playing QB and the Team would actually be a good Fit for him

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 11:16 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

You ‘refrain’ from reading period…I’ve laid out what the Eagles need to do…in free agency we need to go after Jarius Byrd…if we have to pick at 22 we should get the DT if available…if not…then we have to see how the board falls…the draft is a crap shoot…and most of what is speculated on this forum is pure garbage anyway…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
February 27, 2014 8:00 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

LOL…. Do you still struggle reading Green Eggs and Ham?

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 10:45 am
Reply to  antitrust32

Not my fault you feel dumb anittrust…funny your post have the opposite effect on me…I suddenly feel so much smarter! Nick Foles ‘success’ is really not that impressive at all…no one is really excited about Foles…everyone of substance says…’yeah, yeah…he had a good year…
Hey…Foles deserves a shot…but so do us long suffering Eagle fans!
If we have a chance to move up and get an impact QB like Manziel…pull the trigger and lets make it happen because and you heard here loud a clear…Foles is not the guy for this offense…defenses will expose him next year. But…he deserves a shot

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 25, 2014 10:50 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

“impact QB”???? really? 27 TD’s and like what 6-7 Int’s..that isn’t impact? taking over a mediocre team and leading them to the playoffs? impact? getting in for a quarter of the PB and winning MVP? impact? this manziel character must the second coming of montana

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 11:01 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Johnny Football will be out of the NFL by 2016

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
February 25, 2014 11:19 am
Reply to  paulman

16 starts and a couple other appearances

4600 yrds, 33 tds 7 ints 1.2% interception rate.

not “impact” enough

Never been done before in the history of the entire NFL….but not enough

We need another mini-man running around like an idiot making one exciting play every 3 weeks….that’s what wins in the NFL.

Manziel will soon be on the Raiders, or Browns, or Jags, or some other moribound franchise…..and the ‘experts’ will all be debating who their new QB of the future will be when they pick top 5 again in 2016.

Poor Koolbreeze.

Straight-laced, clean-cut, never says anything/does anything wrong, polite, straight ahead hat wearing, tattoo-less, always praising his teammates, awkward looking, slowpoke white boy, leading the Birds for the next 10 years….and if he stumbles….another slowpoke white boy waiting in the wings!!!

Must be hell on earth for the guy…..

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
February 25, 2014 11:48 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

If for some reason the Eagles got Manziel and he could win more games than Nick Foles all Eagles fans would be happy. But, I wouldn’t count on Manziel being a better QB than Nick Foles,

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
February 25, 2014 4:28 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I would! In Chip Kelly’s system Manziel would be much better than Foles! Throw out last year and all the weak teams that we beat with Foles padding his stats against Tampa and Oakland…while we had the best offensive line and running game in the NFL.
Its gonna be tougher this year…the QB wont have all day to throw the ball….what we see with Manziel is the ‘it’ factor…the swagger, the ability to lead a team and make plays.
The Eagles have not bought into Nick Foles…they keep sending to many indications and mix-messages…why even interview Manziel…if you have soooo bought into Foles…Why isnt Cooper the priority over Maclin…since Foles has such a great ‘rhythm’ with him? Why the extremely ‘lukewarm’ approval of Foles from Kelly and all you had to do is see the way he said ‘yeah’ to questions about Foles being a franchise QB.
Just like many of us are not convinced….the Eagles are not convinced…and its gonna to take a big run in the playoffs this year with the tough schedule we got to convince them.
I predict…Foles will not be the long term answer at QB here with the Eagles!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
February 26, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

what we see with Manziel is the ‘it’ factor…the swagger, the ability to lead a team and make plays.

What I see with Manziel is “High School Joe” running around making plays against inferior athletes. And, I’m not the only one who sees him that way.

In fact, the reason the Eagles interviewed him is because they feel he could fall into 2nd or 3rd round like Geno did, and Barkley did.

koolbreeze, you are a Vick follower – let me ask you a question… Do you think Manziel is as good as Vick? So, why would the Eagles let Vick walk in favor of Foles?

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 26, 2014 1:48 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

You right Irish…You’re not the only one who sees that….

I don’t think he is an NFL QB….flat out…

DCar
DCar
February 25, 2014 12:31 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Yeah, but you’re not an Eagles fan, you’re a Vick fan! Beat it fool!

antitrust32
antitrust32
February 25, 2014 5:09 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

considering EVERY SINGLE THING you have posted about Nick Foles has turned out to be wrong, I’m happy to see this post.

gmcliff
gmcliff
February 26, 2014 1:46 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

lol…..

daggolden
daggolden
February 25, 2014 5:02 am

The Eagles are a day late and a dollar short. The Eagles needed the #4 pick in this years draft. We would be talking about Clowney dropping to us at #4, we would be talking about taking Sammy Watkins, Mack or that stud OT Greg Robinson.We would be talking about trading back and picking up picks then taking Mike Evans. Lance Johnson wouldn’t even be a top 10 pick this year SMH.

paulman
paulman
February 25, 2014 6:42 am
Reply to  daggolden

It’s not Lane Johnson’s or the Eagles fault,
Last years Draft was simply average across the Board,
It’s how the Draft works sometimes..
This years it’s very Deep thru the a First 3/4 Rounds at many Pisituons..
The Key is for Wagles to get sone additional
draft picks in the 2nd/3rd & 4th Rounds by Tradibg/packaging
Sone Players that don’t fit but have Valur with some later Round Picks
Like a Vinny Curry, Brandon Graham, Brett Cekek and try to move up
In the earlier Rounds

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
February 25, 2014 7:05 am
Reply to  paulman